Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 16 November 2011
16 Nov 2011 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Regeneration Strategy
I am also pleased to be able to take part in the debate and I welcome the minister’s comments about focusing on the hard-pressed communities that are less resilient to the recession and downturn that we face.
Like other members, I know all too well, given the profile of my constituency of Greenock and Inverclyde, that the regeneration game has faced challenges and had difficulties over the years.
With the decline of heavy industry in my community and subsequent mass unemployment, the results have become predictable and evident over time: depopulation, deprivation, poverty, poor health outcomes, and an increase in crime and in drug and alcohol dependency. However, the real result has been the dashing of expectation and ambition in communities, wasted talent and destroyed communities.
Adam Ingram mentioned some figures. Over the years, many quick fixes have been tried in an effort to replace the large number of jobs lost from the shipyards and the engine works. We have learned over time that we cannot simply reverse the decline by replacing industries with something that is not sustainable. We cannot put a Band-aid on a problem that has been caused by years of neglect and decline.
The sunrise industries were a classic example. Electronic manufacturing took up a lot of the slack in places such as Inverclyde and North Ayrshire. Employment in such manufacturing was plentiful but, of course, it was low paid, there was increased casualisation and the legacy, because we did not get the cycle right, is empty factories.
During that process, we created a new class of people who are known as the working poor—those who work for what is now the minimum wage and who cannot provide for their families without state aid. The quick fixes involved big announcements followed by even bigger disappointments. We had the failure of the enterprise zones and the failure of Government and the enterprise agencies to work together. Ambitious community plans were left to gather dust and we could not move on because of disputes about planning and who owned land.
At times during that period, the challenges that we faced in Inverclyde appeared to be almost insurmountable, and it seemed that we could not move on at all. However, at last, we moved on from the quick fixes. They were replaced with a longer-term model—the urban regeneration company, which has a tight focus on the community and is tasked to work across it. The URC model is long term and recognises that we need to invest not just in business, but in the community. Thanks to the URC Riverside Inverclyde, those advances have come to the Inverclyde area. The changes are there for everybody to see. There are new businesses and there has been wider investment in colleges, housing and new schools, which I believe is the result of the thinking and ambition in the URC.
Many members were in Inverclyde during the recent by-election and were confronted by the new Inverclyde and what has been achieved. It might have been a backhanded compliment, but many members took me aside in the Parliament to tell me about the changes that they had noticed, which were not what they had expected. A transformation has taken place.
I cannot argue with the overall thinking in the strategy and the cabinet secretary’s comments, although I suppose that the devil will be in the detail. The benefit of that type of thinking in the URC and of its can-do attitude reaches far beyond the obvious physical improvements in facilities and infrastructure. Riverside Inverclyde has become a catalyst for change in the area and an infectious model for action that has been picked up by other agencies in the Inverclyde community, resulting in changes in schools and housing.
With the necessary support, Riverside Inverclyde can offer much more, such as the development of the famous sugar sheds and the James Watt dock area. Recently, the popular television drama “Waterloo Road” relocated to Inverclyde. That can be part of how we promote the identity of Greenock and Inverclyde.
Members would not expect me to say anything else but, sadly, we are fearful that that progress is under threat because of the deep cuts to the URC. The cuts to Inverclyde’s regeneration funding have been serious and we are worried that they put a question mark over the continuation of the steady progress that has been made. How can we expect long-term results when a crucial 10-year project is to be abandoned halfway through? How can the URC make good on its commitment to those deprived communities when the Government cannot even make good on its commitment to the urban regeneration companies? How do we look forward and commit to a new strategy, which needs to be long term, when our experience is that commitments are not being seen through?
My challenge to the Scottish Government and the cabinet secretary is to make good on the commitment to regeneration and to back a wider manifesto for the regeneration of Inverclyde. Our ambitions have increased. I say clearly to the Scottish Government that it must keep its side of the bargain and allow Riverside Inverclyde to see through its long-term plans by making good on previous commitments and ending the uncertainty about future funding.
Like other members, I know all too well, given the profile of my constituency of Greenock and Inverclyde, that the regeneration game has faced challenges and had difficulties over the years.
With the decline of heavy industry in my community and subsequent mass unemployment, the results have become predictable and evident over time: depopulation, deprivation, poverty, poor health outcomes, and an increase in crime and in drug and alcohol dependency. However, the real result has been the dashing of expectation and ambition in communities, wasted talent and destroyed communities.
Adam Ingram mentioned some figures. Over the years, many quick fixes have been tried in an effort to replace the large number of jobs lost from the shipyards and the engine works. We have learned over time that we cannot simply reverse the decline by replacing industries with something that is not sustainable. We cannot put a Band-aid on a problem that has been caused by years of neglect and decline.
The sunrise industries were a classic example. Electronic manufacturing took up a lot of the slack in places such as Inverclyde and North Ayrshire. Employment in such manufacturing was plentiful but, of course, it was low paid, there was increased casualisation and the legacy, because we did not get the cycle right, is empty factories.
During that process, we created a new class of people who are known as the working poor—those who work for what is now the minimum wage and who cannot provide for their families without state aid. The quick fixes involved big announcements followed by even bigger disappointments. We had the failure of the enterprise zones and the failure of Government and the enterprise agencies to work together. Ambitious community plans were left to gather dust and we could not move on because of disputes about planning and who owned land.
At times during that period, the challenges that we faced in Inverclyde appeared to be almost insurmountable, and it seemed that we could not move on at all. However, at last, we moved on from the quick fixes. They were replaced with a longer-term model—the urban regeneration company, which has a tight focus on the community and is tasked to work across it. The URC model is long term and recognises that we need to invest not just in business, but in the community. Thanks to the URC Riverside Inverclyde, those advances have come to the Inverclyde area. The changes are there for everybody to see. There are new businesses and there has been wider investment in colleges, housing and new schools, which I believe is the result of the thinking and ambition in the URC.
Many members were in Inverclyde during the recent by-election and were confronted by the new Inverclyde and what has been achieved. It might have been a backhanded compliment, but many members took me aside in the Parliament to tell me about the changes that they had noticed, which were not what they had expected. A transformation has taken place.
I cannot argue with the overall thinking in the strategy and the cabinet secretary’s comments, although I suppose that the devil will be in the detail. The benefit of that type of thinking in the URC and of its can-do attitude reaches far beyond the obvious physical improvements in facilities and infrastructure. Riverside Inverclyde has become a catalyst for change in the area and an infectious model for action that has been picked up by other agencies in the Inverclyde community, resulting in changes in schools and housing.
With the necessary support, Riverside Inverclyde can offer much more, such as the development of the famous sugar sheds and the James Watt dock area. Recently, the popular television drama “Waterloo Road” relocated to Inverclyde. That can be part of how we promote the identity of Greenock and Inverclyde.
Members would not expect me to say anything else but, sadly, we are fearful that that progress is under threat because of the deep cuts to the URC. The cuts to Inverclyde’s regeneration funding have been serious and we are worried that they put a question mark over the continuation of the steady progress that has been made. How can we expect long-term results when a crucial 10-year project is to be abandoned halfway through? How can the URC make good on its commitment to those deprived communities when the Government cannot even make good on its commitment to the urban regeneration companies? How do we look forward and commit to a new strategy, which needs to be long term, when our experience is that commitments are not being seen through?
My challenge to the Scottish Government and the cabinet secretary is to make good on the commitment to regeneration and to back a wider manifesto for the regeneration of Inverclyde. Our ambitions have increased. I say clearly to the Scottish Government that it must keep its side of the bargain and allow Riverside Inverclyde to see through its long-term plans by making good on previous commitments and ending the uncertainty about future funding.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-01336, in the name of Alex Neil, on the regeneration strategy.I call on Alex Neil to speak to and move th...
The Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment (Alex Neil)
SNP
Thank you very much indeed, Presiding Officer. I will try to use it as productively as possible, as always.Regeneration of Scotland’s most disadvantaged areas—
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Excuse me, minister, could you sit down for a moment?The minister’s microphone is not on. Will broadcasting please put it on? Perhaps the minister could move...
Alex Neil
SNP
It is on now.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Indeed it is.I again call on Alex Neil to speak to and move the motion. You still have 14 minutes, but it is now not such a generous 14 minutes.
Alex Neil
SNP
I will add injury time.Regeneration of Scotland’s most disadvantaged areas and strengthening of our communities are key priorities for the Scottish Governmen...
Michael McMahon (Uddingston and Bellshill) (Lab)
Lab
I agree with the minister that we need to take a community-based bottom-up approach as far as that is possible. However, in the case of regeneration projects...
Alex Neil
SNP
As the member will know, the Scottish Government has given priority to Ravenscraig; indeed, it is the subject of one of our TIF pilot projects. Along with No...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I now call Michael McMahon to speak to and move motion S4M-01336.1. Mr McMahon, you have a generous 10 minutes.14:52
Michael McMahon (Uddingston and Bellshill) (Lab)
Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer.I thank the cabinet secretary for bringing the debate to Parliament this afternoon, but I do so with a sense of déjà vu. Last we...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
SNP
I note the point that Michael McMahon is making, but I wonder whether anyone is guaranteed funding at this time. Surely, when the budget has been cut so seve...
Michael McMahon
Lab
John Mason has to identify his priorities. On an issue as important as regeneration, we can say that some budget lines have to be protected more than others....
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member give way?
Michael McMahon
Lab
I would like to make some progress.With the budgets of some regeneration programmes being cut in half, we cannot allow the Scottish National Party Government...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I now call Alex Johnstone to speak to and move amendment S4M-01336.2. Mr Johnstone, you have a generous six minutes.15:01
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
It is always nice to be given a generous time limit. Generally, it means that I will have a wander around the subject and end up saying less than I would oth...
Kevin Stewart
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Alex Johnstone
Con
Ah, go on. Why not?
Kevin Stewart
SNP
I thank Mr Johnstone for giving way. Without pointing the finger of blame at anyone, I would say that it is at times such as this when we have to be a little...
Alex Johnstone
Con
There are many examples of success and they were not all achieved under this Government. In Scotland’s history, regeneration has been an on-going theme for m...
Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab)
Lab
Will the member give way?
Alex Johnstone
Con
Not at the moment—I want to develop my argument.In the past, I have criticised our tendency to be insular with regard to the communities that we represent, a...
Duncan McNeil
Lab
I was wondering how long it would take the member to tell us to get on our bikes. Does the member accept that regeneration is not just about economic growth,...
Alex Johnstone
Con
It is clear that, when they look back over history and at the trends that the member has highlighted, both the Conservative and Labour Parties will find it d...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
We move to the open debate. I can offer members up to seven minutes for speeches. 15:10
Adam Ingram (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)
SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in the debate. I will focus my remarks on the need to regenerate the former coalfield communities in my constituen...
Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab)
Lab
I am also pleased to be able to take part in the debate and I welcome the minister’s comments about focusing on the hard-pressed communities that are less re...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
Mr McNeil, will you begin to wind up, please?
Duncan McNeil
Lab
Right. Sorry, Presiding Officer.The urban regeneration company is but one part of our wider manifesto. We have great ambition to see the renewables industry ...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP)
SNP
I thank the cabinet secretary for holding this debate.As a previous MSP for the Glasgow region and as the current MSP for Glasgow Kelvin, I, like my colleagu...