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Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
27 Jun 2002
Budget Process 2003-04
I am pleased to speak to the Finance Committee's report on stage 1 of the 2003-04 budget process. I begin by offering my thanks and the thanks of members of the committee to the Finance Committee clerks and to the clerks of the Parliament's subject committees, who have made su...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
21 Dec 2005
Budget Process 2006-07
I commend the Finance Committee's report to the Parliament. It is a serious, reasoned and carefully written report, which was supported unanimously by members of the committee. The context from which we start is the budget priorities that are set by ministers. The Finance Comm...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
19 Dec 2001
Budget Process 2002-03: Stage 2
I thank the Parliament for this opportunity to open the debate on the Finance Committee's stage 2 report on the 2002-03 budget process. Since the commencement of stage 2 of the process, my predecessor as convener of the Finance Committee, Mike Watson, has been appointed Minist...
Des McNulty: Lab Chamber
23 Dec 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
I think that Mr Adam was a member of the committee when we started down the route of undertaking cross-cutting reviews. The two cross-cutting reviews that we undertook in the previous session of Parliament were very useful; this session's committee has continued the process an...
Des McNulty: Lab Chamber
19 Dec 2001
Budget Process 2002-03: Stage 2
Alasdair Morgan is absolutely right. We must improve members' awareness of the budget to help them to perform their role more effectively. That can be done by training and by improving the layout of information, for example. We must also find more effective ways of making the ...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
30 Jun 2005
Economic Development<br />(Cross-cutting Expenditure Review)
I am particularly pleased to speak after George Lyon's first speech as a minister, which was the first time no one has opposed some element of what he said. However, although I am pleased to open the debate, I must note the frequency with which Finance Committee debates take p...
The Deputy Minister for Communities (Des McNulty): Lab Chamber
31 Jan 2007
Battle of Passchendaele<br />(90th Anniversary)
As we have heard, on 7 June 1917, under the fields of Flanders, the most powerful man-made explosion to that date was detonated, an event that triggered an equally powerful and destructive earthquake. The explosion was the beginning of the Flanders offensive that culminated fi...
The Convener: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Cross-cutting Inquiry into Deprivation (Executive Response)
The response states that the Executive will carry out that review in the context of the next spending review, with a view to making any change from 2008.In my view, the Executive's final response is much more constructive than its initial response. Clearly, the civil servants ...
Des McNulty: Lab Committee
19 Sep 2001
Sea Cage Fish Farming
A phased process is attached to such matters. We want the Executive to agree to the appointment of a research co-ordinator because that is the most effective way in which to receive the information that we need. I hope that, given that we have requested the Executive to make s...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
17 Dec 2003
Budget Process 2004-05: Stage 2
The pre-Christmas budget debate promises new treats as well as old favourites this year. As last year, Rab McNeil will have to strap himself into his seat to endure 11 minutes from me on the Finance Committee's budget report. However, I am pleased to say that we will not be wi...
Des McNulty: Lab Chamber
24 Jun 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
Alasdair Morgan is absolutely right—I was not suggesting anything to the contrary. However, the Holyrood building provides us with an opportunity to move forward, and what we are trying to do with the budget is also geared towards giving us an opportunity to move forward in a ...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
23 Dec 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
This is my third speech in the graveyard slot in end-of-year budget debates, but it is the first when I do not have to worry about what Rab McNeil will have to say about me in The Scotsman the next day. Unlike Rab McNeil, I probably cannot promise to be entertaining, but I wil...
Des McNulty: Lab Chamber
26 Jan 2006
Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill: Stage 1
I would have thought that, as an accountant, Jim Mather would realise that that is more or less standard business practice. It is strange that he takes exception to it.Progress has been made in progressing major capital projects. The schools regeneration project has been imple...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
02 Nov 2006
Scottish Executive Budget Review
I have enjoyed some of the jokes in this morning's debate, but I want to highlight some of the background to the issue that we should be focusing on, which is the process of how we examine the Scottish Executive budget over the longer term and what needs to happen if we are to...
The Convener: Lab Committee
09 Sep 2004
Public Sector Jobs Relocation Debate
As members know, on Wednesday 15 September there will be a debate in the chamber on the committee's report into the relocation of public sector jobs. I put the item on the agenda because the Executive has not yet sent a response to the committee's report. Paragraph 17 of the p...
The Convener: Lab Committee
26 Oct 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
It is emerging that we require to be more gender sensitive not just when we are considering budgets, but during the policy development process. Those two strands need to be coupled.Irene Graham suggested in her opening remarks that the committee could ask for reports from the ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
10 Jan 2006
Subordinate Legislation
I will make a few comments, initially picking up on the point that Derek Brownlee just made. It is probably not reasonable to expect the process of scrutinising budget revisions to provide the kind of strategic overview that he suggests. Over the course of the year or of the s...
Des McNulty: Lab Committee
09 Jan 2002
Water Industry (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The intention of amendments 38, 39 and 41 is to ensure that non-executive members form the majority of the board of Scottish Water. Members will recall that there was much discussion about that at stage 1. During a public hearing, the committee heard from the chairman designat...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
22 Mar 2001
Drug Misuse and Deprived Communities
I commend the work of the greater Glasgow drug action team as an example of effective local partnership that involves the full range of agencies. One of the reasons for the success of the DAT is that it has set clear objectives and has a specified action plan. Over the past th...
The Deputy Minister for Social Justice (Des McNulty): Lab Chamber
20 Feb 2003
Arbroath CAFE Project
I, too, congratulate Andrew Welsh on securing the debate on his motion. I got to know him well when we were both members of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body and I know of his great pride in being the representative of Angus and the interest that he takes in the welfar...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
07 Sep 2004
Scottish Executive's Programme
The First Minister has repeatedly made it clear that growing the economy is the Executive's top priority. Jim Mather might scoff, but the refreshed FEDS document sets out the context for decisions on transport, housing and business support. Those decisions are crucial if we ar...
The Convener: Lab Committee
17 May 2005
Efficient Government
I thank you both very much. My first question relates to efficiency savings and the management approach that is being adopted in seeking out and driving forward efficiencies. The question is the mirror image, if you like, of the one that I asked Tom McCabe at last week's meeti...
The Convener: Lab Committee
28 Jun 2005
Efficient Government
I will report on the visits to Scottish Enterprise and Glasgow City Council on Tuesday 21 June, which I carried out with Wendy Alexander, Frank McAveety, Jim Mather, our adviser, Arthur Midwinter, and our senior assistant clerk, Judith Evans. We are grateful to both organisati...
Des McNulty: Lab Committee
20 Sep 2006
Scottish Commissioner for Human Rights Bill: Stage 2
I suppose that my task is to convince the committee that what I propose is better than the status quo—a standalone commissioner—or the Executive proposal, which is to establish a commission. I will make that point by drawing on some general features of the debate. When the Par...
Des McNulty: Lab Chamber
23 Dec 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
There is a system that links together the redistribution of non-domestic rates and domestic rates. I have made it clear that that system is not particularly fair, but it is a complicated issue. Mr Monteith will realise that it is not simply a question of changing the system to...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
14 Sep 2005
Ferry Services<br />(Clyde and Hebrides)
I pay tribute to the campaign that has been fought by the RMT—the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers—and the STUC in recent months. They have legitimately raised issues about the employment rights and security of their members. Some of the arguments that th...
The Deputy Minister for Communities (Des McNulty): Lab Chamber
24 Jan 2007
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History Month
I begin, as other members have done, by congratulating Patrick Harvie on bringing the issue to Parliament for debate. It is a debate that acknowledges the diversity that exists in Scotland and which celebrates the benefits of that diversity. I am delighted that people feel tha...
The Convener: Lab Committee
10 Sep 2002
Water Environment and Water Services (Scotland) Bill:<br />Financial Memorandum
The Executive is asking the Parliament to establish a broad legislative framework that will allow the Executive to make requirements on the various bodies concerned, without reference to affordability. You say that affordability might be considered around the edges, but that i...
The Convener: Lab Committee
20 Apr 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
The Finance Committee has repeatedly raised the point that the way in which the Executive has been held accountable for local government and health expenditure is not satisfactory either to us or to the relevant subject committees. There is an accountability deficit, which the...
The Convener: Lab Committee
26 Oct 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
Thank you for that. I remind members that we are scrutinising the Executive, so Arthur Midwinter is providing us with issues that he thinks we might want to pursue with the Executive. We will try to achieve clarity on those matters so that we can develop them with the Executiv...
The Convener: Lab Committee
19 Apr 2005
Cross-cutting Deprivation Inquiry
I cannot, as the Labour group has not had discussions of that kind. Certainly, the committee will need to be clear about what the Executive means about some of its suggestions. Regeneration is a case in point: some people are saying that it means one thing and others that it m...
The Convener: Lab Committee
24 May 2005
Budget Seminar
I think that we should be involved in talking about on which areas it would be appropriate to have specific targets, but it would be dangerous for us to say, "These are the things on which the Executive should give us outcomes."On health, for example, the Executive talks const...
The Convener: Lab Committee
01 Nov 2005
Cross-cutting Inquiry into Deprivation
The second and more substantial item on our agenda is to take further evidence in our cross-cutting inquiry into deprivation.I am pleased to welcome representatives from three community planning partnerships to today's meeting. I will introduce each group of people separately,...
The Convener: Lab Committee
23 May 2006
Local Authority Single Status Agreement Inquiry<br />(Executive Response)
The second item on our agenda is consideration of a response from the Executive, following the publication of our report into the cost of local authority single status agreements. The committee invited responses to its report from Unison, the Transport and General Workers Unio...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Committee
20 Sep 2006
Scottish Commissioner for Human Rights Bill: Stage 2
I am delighted to be at the Justice 1 Committee again—I seem to be becoming an ancillary member of it.In discussing the amendments in the group, it will be necessary for me to comment on those that the Executive has lodged because I must persuade the committee that my proposal...
Des McNulty: Lab Committee
27 Sep 2006
Scottish Commissioner for Human Rights Bill: Stage 2
On Mary Mulligan's point, the normal pattern in local authorities is for the chief executive to be the accountable officer. However, a specified individual—it is normally the director of finance—might be the accountable officer for particular areas of responsibility to do with...
Des McNulty: Lab Committee
05 Sep 2001
Sea Cage Fish Farming
I agree with what Bristow Muldoon and others have said about ensuring that the research co-ordinator is reputable in a scientific sense and can do the job that must be done to gather together the relevant information, point to gaps and assist us in delivering transparency in t...
The Deputy Minister for Social Justice (Des McNulty): Lab Committee
04 Mar 2003
Planning
As a former member of the Transport and the Environment Committee, I know that there was a perception that the committee might not have had enough time to pay sufficient attention to the issue of planning, given the weight of its legislative work and its other responsibilities...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 Jun 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
We have just heard a plea for poor solicitors.I welcome the progress that has been made by a number of members in clarifying the budget. A lot needs to be done to link budget allocations better to policy priorities and, more particularly, to performance targets. I sat on two m...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
09 Jan 2002
Scottish Executive's Priorities
I welcome the First Minister's commitment that the Administration that he leads will concentrate on the people's priorities of education, health, transport, crime and jobs. Those are the priorities of the communities that I represent and I am confident that they are the priori...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab Chamber
12 Jun 2003
Animal Welfare Centres (Closure)
Like other speakers, I congratulate Shona Robison on securing the debate. There is widespread concern about the proposed closure of animal welfare centres. Jackie Baillie spoke about the closure of the Milton animal welfare centre, which serves not just the Dumbarton area but ...
Des McNulty: Lab Chamber
24 Jun 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
Mark Ballard is absolutely right. I am sure that Wendy Alexander and Jim Mather will talk further about the need for long-term trend information that will allow us to measure progress over a period of time. It is important to point out, however, that the committee's report say...
Des McNulty: Lab Chamber
15 Sep 2004
Relocation of Public Sector Jobs
I am saying that more jobs have been created in Edinburgh than in any other place in Scotland. That is simply a measure of the incline that we have to examine.The policy that has been set out by ministers indicates that issues of deprivation and unemployment will be given a gr...
The Convener: Lab Committee
12 Feb 2002
Budget Process 2002-03
Under the Executive's response to recommendation 9, should we pick up on the issue of the bidding processes? We are told that the bidding processes are the reason why the Executive cannot provide us with the information that we seek. Given that decisions about some budget area...
The Convener: Lab Committee
20 Jan 2004
Antisocial Behaviour etc (Scotland) Bill:<br />Financial Memorandum
I want to pick up on your statement that the Executive does not consult local authorities. The previous financial memorandum that the committee considered was that produced for the Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Bill. It was produced by a working group ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
02 Mar 2004
Public Sector Jobs Relocation Inquiry
Following our previous discussion on the matter, I wrote to the Treasury to ask how the Lyons review will impact on the Scottish Executive's approach to relocation, so that we can get a sense of how the UK Government operates in the context of relocation.One of the things that...
The Convener: Lab Committee
25 May 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
The reality is that committees have their own remits and will decide how to use their time. It is incumbent on us to do everything that we can to make information available—through our own work and by pursuing the Executive—so that budget scrutiny is as relevant and meaningful...
The Convener: Lab Committee
09 Sep 2004
Public Sector Jobs Relocation Debate
I will draw together the strands of the discussion. It is generally agreed that we do not want to be in breach of practice by not lodging our motion. I think that we should lodge our motion. It is unfortunate that we have not had the response from the Executive, which might ha...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Sep 2004
Committee Away Day
We wanted to take up with the Executive several issues concerning the content of financial memoranda. We have discussed that, so I assume that members will be content if I write a letter to express our concerns about the quality of the evidence that is used to underpin financi...
The Convener: Lab Committee
23 Nov 2004
Cross-cutting Review of Economic Development
Agenda item 2 is the first oral evidence session for our cross-cutting review of economic development. I welcome various officials from the Scottish Executive.I take the opportunity to remind members of the overall structure of our four scheduled evidence sessions. Today, we w...
The Convener: Lab Committee
30 Nov 2004
Cross-cutting Expenditure Review on Economic Development
Agenda item 2 is the committee's second oral evidence-taking session on its cross-cutting review on economic development. An extensive array of witnesses from throughout the United Kingdom is here and I thank everyone for coming along. I welcome representatives from Scotland's...
The Convener: Lab Committee
24 May 2005
Budget Seminar
On the approach that Michael Barber advocated, it might be more appropriate for us to ask the Executive to give us a highly targeted set of outcomes that reflect its key priorities and that are susceptible both to measurement and to the kind of trajectory analysis that Michael...
The Convener: Lab Committee
24 May 2005
Efficient Government
I hope that people are content with the approach towards documented savings that Arthur Midwinter suggests. I will send a couple of letters to the Executive arising from Wendy Alexander's comments. Perhaps we should send one now and the other after we have heard from Audit Sco...
The Convener (Des McNulty): Lab Committee
13 Sep 2005
Budget Process 2006-07
I welcome people to the 19th meeting of the Finance Committee in 2005 and apologise for starting slightly late. I welcome the press and public as normal and remind people that pagers and mobile phones should be switched off. We have apologies from Alasdair Morgan, and Wendy Al...
The Convener: Lab Committee
22 Nov 2005
Cross-Cutting Inquiry into Deprivation
I have two more follow-up questions, after which I will let other members in. One thing that was impressive about Steven Purcell was that he said that priorities must be chosen, and Glasgow chose drug addiction and worklessness. I am not convinced that the Executive has chosen...
The Convener: Lab Committee
06 Dec 2005
Public Finances Management (Research Proposal)
I have two points. First, we should focus on procurement issues as a subset of the efficient government initiative, given that it is intended that a high proportion of savings will come from procurement. John McLelland has worked on procurement for the Executive. He is likely ...
The Convener (Des McNulty): Lab Committee
23 May 2006
Accountability and Governance Inquiry
Good morning. I welcome the press, the public and our witnesses to the 15th meeting in 2006 of the Finance Committee. As usual, I remind members to turn off all pagers and mobile phones. We have received apologies from Wendy Alexander, but I think that Jim Mather will join us ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
26 Sep 2006
Budget Process 2007-08
That would be helpful. We are looking for background information, as John Swinney suggested. Arthur Midwinter is being asked to go and speak to the Executive about whether we can get a more systematic exposition of the allocation of the £725 million of new money. John Swinney ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Cross-cutting Inquiry into Deprivation (Executive Response)
Agenda item 3 is consideration of the Scottish Executive's final response to the committee's report "Cross-cutting Expenditure Review of Deprivation". As members will recall, after we published the report in April 2006, the Executive provided an interim response as it wished t...
Des McNulty: Lab Committee
20 Sep 2006
Scottish Commissioner for Human Rights Bill: Stage 2
I associate myself with the comments that John Swinney relayed on behalf of the Finance Committee. The one point that I would like to add is that the Finance Committee did not call for a moratorium only in its most recent report; it did so some months ago.To some extent, the f...
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Plenary, 27 Jun 2002

27 Jun 2002 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Budget Process 2003-04
McNulty, Des Lab Clydebank and Milngavie Watch on SPTV
I am pleased to speak to the Finance Committee's report on stage 1 of the 2003-04 budget process. I begin by offering my thanks and the thanks of members of the committee to the Finance Committee clerks and to the clerks of the Parliament's subject committees, who have made substantial contributions to a comprehensive stage 1 review process. This year, we tried to work in concert with the subject committees to assist them in reviewing the Executive's budget proposals. The co-ordination between the clerks and the advisers to the various committees has enhanced the process and has made it much better for everyone concerned.

We should pay particular tribute to Professor Arthur Midwinter, who is the Finance Committee's adviser on the budget process. Professor Midwinter has contributed a great deal of expertise and background knowledge to our work and has been the source of many difficult questions about the budget process, which we have asked the Executive. That has assisted the scrutiny process and has made construction and analysis of the budget much more effective.

Since the first budget in 1999, the Finance Committee has become more effective in scrutinising the budget. We have undergone a learning process and have developed our procedures in a way that will allow us further to improve budgetary scrutiny in future. There will be less concentration on documentation and more focus on priorities and improved output information from the Executive. I thank Executive ministers and officials for assisting the committee by providing improved and better-targeted information. We have managed to generate specific spending recommendations from the subject committees, which is a first. In future, we expect to spend more time on cross-cutting issues; the Finance Committee has initiated two cross-cutting reviews, which we hope will report later in the year.

Angus MacKay, the former Minister for Finance and Local Government, and his successor Andy Kerr, the Minister for Finance and Public Services, have helped us by improving the presentation of the budget. Although the budget documentation is much more comprehensible than it was, we are concerned that the Executive was not able to produce all the information that we needed on baseline expenditure for new spending proposals. However, we have received assurances from the Minister for Finance and Public Services that that information will be made available in subsequent annual expenditure review documentation, and will include a summary of outputs and data.

One of the themes of our report is that more work is required on certain areas, such as gender proofing the budget. We want the Executive and the Equal Opportunities Committee to agree a working definition of equality proofing and a mechanism for ensuring that the equality strategy is reflected in budgetary allocations. We need greater consistency in that area, as well as greater clarification and definition.

The committee makes the specific recommendation that, when the draft Scottish budget is published in the autumn, the document should illustrate systematically how additional funding will be spent and what outputs will be provided. We want the draft budget to contain an explanation of how the decisions that have been taken advance the Executive's spending priorities, which is particularly important in the context of the spending review. In the past, documentation has focused on tables and columns of figures.

We want to move towards targeting money at particular kinds of outcome, so that we can see how budgetary allocations match up with delivery; the Executive has in its policies made a great deal of wanting to ensure that delivery takes place. It is important that budgetary decisions and allocations match priorities and that they lead to delivery targets being met. We must make that more explicit.

During the Finance Committee's deliberations, we became aware of the need for clarification on how consequentials from the Chancellor of the Exchequer's budget will be dealt with in the context of health. The Minister for Finance and Public Services has made it clear that all the money will not necessarily go to the national health service budget; rather, consideration of allocations will take place in a broader health context. We believe that that is a positive step in the devolution process—we do not have to mirror exactly the way in which money is spent down south. We are trying to develop a more holistic approach.

Subject committees came up with 12 spending recommendations and the Finance Committee tried to consider them in depth and detail. We also tried to reflect the integrity of the work of the committees. This year, the committees considered the budget process more systematically than perhaps they did in the past. Not all committees were equally successful, but certain committees did an excellent job. As I mentioned to its convener, I would like to highlight the work of the Rural Development Committee, which produced an excellent budget report. However, that was just one among a number of very good reports from the subject committees.

The reports contained concrete recommendations that I hope the committees will pursue, not only in the context of reports to the Finance Committee. The recommendations reflect choices that the committees want to make in their own subject areas. For example, the Transport and the Environment Committee highlighted the need for greater focus on roads maintenance; the Health and Community Care Committee made recommendations on provision of chronic pain services and neurological services and on the need for specialists; the Rural Development Committee focused on the rural development fund and the need for additional resources; and the Education, Culture and Sport Committee focused on school estates. I will not go through them all, but those are the kinds of things that we want committees to do. We want them to consider their remits and the areas where spending is required, to identify where problems lie, and to propose solutions that the Executive can consider.

To be fair to the Executive, it has welcomed the responses from committees and it has considered their proposals. Even in yesterday's statement on end-year flexibility, there were indications that committee proposals were being taken into account. We hope that that will continue in deliberations of year-on-year spending.

In future, we want to move from an input-based budgetary approach to a greater focus on outputs—so that we are clear about what is obtained from spend—and then on towards an outcome-based approach. In the past few weeks, we have been consulting on a major report on outcome budgeting by Norman Flynn. Outcome budgeting is some way off; we will have to build up expertise and understanding. Trying to transform the way in which budgets are put together cannot be done in one, two, three, four or possibly even five years. However, we want to move towards a system that is based on defined outcomes. We want to bring together the different services that can contribute to those outcomes to see how spending priorities and allocations can become less of a barrier to and more of a help in achieving outcomes.

People are interested in whether there will be an effect on them as a result of the way in which the Executive spends its money and the way in which services are delivered. There is sometimes a gap between budgetary allocations and processes and what happens on the ground. The Finance Committee, the Executive and the Scottish Parliament have a strong interest in trying to ensure that the way in which we spend our money delivers the most that it can. We must ensure that departmental or budgetary structures and boundaries between different organisations and areas of the budget do not form barriers. We have a considerable way to go towards delivering barrier-free budgeting, but that is the direction that we should take. The Parliament and the Government of Scotland have an opportunity to lead the way in barrier-free budgeting. Our new Parliament should do things in new and different ways and our efforts to work with and develop the mechanisms that we have point to an exciting future.

We have moved the budgetary process forward significantly in the course of the year and we have worked more closely with the subject committees. The standard of the reports that we received this year was much higher than was previously the case. Credit for that should go to Arthur Midwinter and the various advisers to the committees, as well as to the committee members and the clerks. We have mapped out the direction for scrutiny of the budget, the organisation of the budget and the data that we need in order to reach better decisions. The subject committees have made recommendations that the Executive will consider systematically. We have identified areas in the process in which there are data gaps or where points of focus—such as gender budgeting—have not been given sufficient attention, and we have identified areas where there is need for improvement.

We want to move towards outcome budgeting; the work that we have done this year has taken us a significant step forward. We have been able to take that step forward partly because the resources that we are receiving this year and next year are a significant step up on what was previously available. We have been experiencing budgetary growth, which has allowed us to make positive allocations and priority decisions more freely than we have been able to at various times in the past.

I hope that the Finance Committee has done its job effectively. We hope to continue to do that, not just over the next two stages of the budget, but in dealing with the spending review and the budgetary process in the years to come.

I move,

That the Parliament notes the 3rd Report 2002 of the Finance Committee, Stage 1 of the 2003-04 Budget Process (SP Paper 597) and refers the recommendations to the Scottish Executive for consideration.

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The member is over time, but I will allow a final intervention.
Alex Neil: SNP
I will keep my question short. The other big budget increase in Chancellor Brown's budget was the introduction of the windfall tax on oil. Will the member te...
Mr Davidson: Con
Mr Neil will know that I am on record, as people down south are, as saying that the tax is iniquitous, badly thought out and ill- considered and that it will...
Mr Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD): LD
Some members will be aware that I am only a recently appointed member of the Finance Committee, so I do not bring the depth of knowledge to the debate that D...
David Mundell (South of Scotland) (Con): Con
Was he really?
Mr Stone: LD
No—I am so sorry, of course he was not. However, he made an artful trip-up. The CBI was asked about the cost consequence of raising income tax by a penny. Th...
Mary Scanlon: Con
I am sure that Mr Stone receives the same mail that I do about the roads in the Highlands. Given that bringing the roads and bridges up to normal standard wi...