Committee
Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee 27 January 2016
27 Jan 2016 · S4 · Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee
Item of business
Social Enterprises
I agree with what Fraser Kelly has said. There are already dynamics in the social enterprise landscape that will mean the production of more social enterprises and the development of existing ones. I liked what James McIlroy said. The large companies that chase unlimited profits die eventually. They fall on their own swords, or their own profits. Many of those running social enterprises whom I have met certainly intend to make profits, but it is interesting to note that their dedication is primarily to the social involvement of their enterprise. Because of the involvement of the people who work in social enterprise, we need to consider the change in productivity and the fact that it is quite marked. It comes back to the public procurement issue and looking at that. The value added by social enterprise is substantially greater than doing something internally. The partnership between public enterprise and social enterprise can be very productive for the customers, the employees and those who run social enterprises.
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The Convener
Con
Under item 2, we are taking evidence this morning on social enterprises, and I thank all the witnesses for attending. This is a follow-up session to a sessio...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP)
SNP
I am the MSP for Aberdeenshire West and I am the deputy convener.
Chris Thewlis (GTS Solutions CIC)
I am with GTS Solutions CIC social enterprise.
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I am one of the MSPs for South Scotland and, happily, I am the convener of the cross-party group on social enterprises.
Ken Milroy (Aberdeen Foyer)
I am the chief executive of Aberdeen Foyer.
Gordon MacDonald (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP)
SNP
I am the MSP for Edinburgh Pentlands.
Brian Weaver (Highlands and Islands Social Enterprise Zone)
I am the chief executive of the Highlands and Islands Social Enterprise Zone—HISEZ.
Richard Lyle (Central Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I am an MSP for Central Scotland.
Fraser Kelly (Social Enterprise Scotland)
Good morning. I am the chief executive of Social Enterprise Scotland.
Audrey Carlin (Workshop and Artists Studio Provision (Scotland) Ltd)
I am the senior executive director of WASPS, which stands for Workshop and Artists Studio Provision (Scotland) Ltd.
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
I am an MSP for North East Scotland.
Simon Teasdale (Glasgow Caledonian University)
I am a professor of public policy at the Yunus centre at Glasgow Caledonian University.
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab)
Lab
I am the MSP for Glasgow Pollok.
Lorna Baird (City of Edinburgh Council)
I am the social enterprise adviser with business gateway Edinburgh.
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I am an MSP for South Scotland.
James McIlroy (Eurobiotix CIC)
I am the chief executive of Eurobiotix CIC.
The Convener
Con
We also have the official reporters, who are noting down everything that we say, and our clerks, who are here to assist us. We have until about 12 noon so w...
Fraser Kelly
Thank you, Fergus—
The Convener
Con
I should say that I am not Fergus. I have not been promoted to minister yet.
Fraser Kelly
Murdo, sorry. My apologies. The census data that I mentioned earlier was something that we did not have previously. It has set a baseline for where we take ...
The Convener
Con
Thank you. We will want to explore a lot of the issues that you have touched on. I should say for the record that the Jonathan to whom you referred was Jona...
Brian Weaver
The interesting thing about the research that Jonathan Coburn showed us was that 22 per cent of the social enterprises that are operating are in the Highland...
The Convener
Con
That is a very good point. When I was in Glenelg last summer, I travelled on the Glenelg to Kylerhea ferry which is run by a community interest company that ...
Brian Weaver
I would like to make that point, too—in the Highlands and Islands, social enterprise is not just about social care. It applies to everything from the petrol ...
Chic Brodie
SNP
This question is for any of our guests. It is clear that the Highlands and Islands is an exemplar for what can happen, but why is the growth in social enterp...
Johann Lamont
Lab
That is partly to do with the fact that Glasgow City Council is a co-operative council.
Chic Brodie
SNP
Do any of our guests have any ideas on that?
Ken Milroy
As far as Aberdeen Foyer’s origins are concerned, the local authority was critical in helping to bring together public and private sector interests, which wa...
Lorna Baird
The level of growth in Edinburgh is similar to that in Glasgow. One of the reasons for the situation in Edinburgh is that the local authority business gatewa...
Audrey Carlin
I echo what Lorna Baird said. WASPS operates across Scotland and works with a large number of local authorities. In the main, we do not simply respond to dem...