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Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
28 Jan 2014
Tackling Child Sexual Exploitation in Scotland
I believe that we all come to the Parliament, sometimes amid rhetoric and cosmetics, to try to make a difference—however big or small—to our fellow citizens. In this debate, we have collectively demonstrated the need to express that difference in the name of our children. In ...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
29 Jan 2015
Chilcot Inquiry
I will be brief. On 10 April 2002, in the House of Commons, Tony Blair said: “Saddam Hussein’s regime is despicable, he is developing weapons of mass destruction, and we cannot leave him doing so unchecked.”—Official Report, House of Commons, 10 April 2002; Vol 383, c 23. In...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
28 Oct 2014
Child Sexual Exploitation in Scotland
With all due respect, convener, although we have to be mindful of the proprieties of process, we could draw up an action plan by Friday by taking the recommendations from our child sexual exploitation inquiry. Why are we not doing that? Why are we wasting public money on havin...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
26 Sep 2012
Business Gateway Inquiry
I want to ask a number of questions later, convener, but I have a question on this specific point. In our business gateway inquiry, we recommended that the tender process—and involvement in it—be more focused and made simpler. I know that you were not in post at the time, Kare...
The Deputy Convener SNP Committee
30 Apr 2013
Tackling Child Sexual Exploitation in Scotland
Forgive me, but could there have been more or better communication about what contribution that internal inquiry could make to the committee’s inquiry?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
11 Jun 2013
New Petitions
I abhor blacklisting just as much as I abhor bad management, and there is a lot of that around. However, you are asking the Scottish Government to do something while the Scottish Affairs Committee is undertaking an inquiry into the matter. The minister set out the legislative ...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
30 Apr 2013
Press Regulation
I am pleased to be part of the debate today and I welcome the consensus that has been displayed around it.Mark Twain once said:“There are laws to protect the freedom of the press’s speech, but none that are worth anything to protect the people from the press.”That was written ...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
28 Oct 2014
Child Sexual Exploitation in Scotland
As I said in the debate, we ignore this issue at our peril. As an acquiescent back bencher, I am not sure whether I am angry or disappointed. It was before the recess that we started talking about what we were going to do. We had a full and comprehensive inquiry that embraced ...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
24 Mar 2015
Post-study Work Visas
Presiding Officer, “As I scan the policy horizon, it’s hard to see a bigger risk, or a more poisonous gun pointed at our collective success.” Those are not my words, but those of Peter Downes, the Universities Scotland convener, at a Holyrood higher education conference in D...
Chic Brodie SNP Chamber
20 Jan 2016
Jobs in Scotland’s New Economy
No. Time is very limited. I welcome the Paris initiative, because we cannot plan a transition away from Scotland’s reliance on fossil fuels in the short term or in a period of huge global political volatility. Oil, petrochemicals and hydrocarbons are a major ingredient of day...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
07 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I have two points. I agree with Patrick Harvie that the witness list is perhaps a bit narrow and does not allow us to get some real objectivity, which is what we are trying to do with small businesses and start-ups. We got the “Business Gateway National Evaluation and Future A...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
07 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I understand that, but the danger is that we will have a short, focused look at the business gateway that does not promote some of the fundamental changes that I believe are necessary, given the experiences and communications that I have had, and that we will roll the thing ov...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
07 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
If we can and if we have time, I would like us to invite ecogen—
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
07 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
And Ecorys—whoever produced the report to which I referred; I see that three companies were involved.An input from Scottish Enterprise might also be worth while, although I take Patrick Harvie’s point that it is maybe too close and that we need somebody who can stand back and ...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
07 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I know that the minister is coming to give evidence. As someone who believes that business gateways should—at least in some way—dovetail with local and national strategy, I think it might be instructive if he provided us with the outline of the Government’s business strategy f...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
07 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Yes.
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I want to address Colin Borland on the economy. We know that the United Kingdom economy is not buoyant, but happily the Scottish economy is a bit better.I should probably declare an interest as convener of the cross-party group on social enterprise. In a previous life I worked...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
How it deals with end clients and opportunities.
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Yes.
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
But are they providing the same service?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Do they provide similar services?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
In suggesting that you did not think there should be wholesale change, you referred to the Ekosgen report. Despite concluding that business gateway is fit for purpose, it makes 29 recommendations, one of which—on its governance—I regard as very serious. How do the report’s rec...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I hear what you are saying—and I am sorry if I seem to be focusing on you, Mr Borland. I have questions for the other witnesses, too.However, despite what you say, in the same report 77 per cent of respondents in terms of looking at customer service declared the service to be ...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Is that a good basis for somebody getting a contract?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Are you comfortable that the targets that are set for business gateways are set by the right people, at the right time, and are measured properly?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Do business gateways not really set their own targets?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
The same report indicates that, notwithstanding the economic downturn, the percentage of the 2010-11 target achieved was 43 per cent of existing businesses going into the growth pipeline, 42 per cent of start-ups going into account management and 70 per cent of start-ups in th...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I am sorry to interrupt, but members of the coalition were allotted public funds recently to support businesses. Is that correct?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Members of the coalition were provided with public funds to help businesses. I am talking about the Wise Group, CEiS and so on. What is the difference between the support that they provide, including funding support and all sorts of business planning advice, and that which the...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
There is an overlap.
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
They are not mutually exclusive. The business gateway service and local authorities should obviously consider the local social impact.
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I am a bit concerned that Margaret Miller has just said that we cannot compare like with like on the numbers. I have some questions for Hugh Lightbody. First, as you have, I presume, tried to achieve consistency throughout the country, how would you react to that comment? Seco...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
It was about comparing like with like. You have a marketing budget, which we now know is £1.8 million, in order to achieve—one would have thought—a consistent marketing message, given that the Ekosgen report, to which we will come in a minute, says that the brand is nationally...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I am intrigued by the national unit, of which I was not really aware until I read the Ekosgen report, which I want to ask Richard Whitcomb about.The report states in its first few pages that the business gateway is “fit for purpose”. You may have heard my earlier question. One...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
How is the business gateway fit for purpose if the roles are not understood?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
That is not what it says in the report; it refers to the board members.I will move on to another couple of quick questions. Recommendation 10 in your report suggests“that aftercare is included on a formal basis as part of the wider move”.According to the report, aftercare is n...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I have one last question for David Coyne and Marjorie Miller. You are responsible within Glasgow City Council for business advice. How do you relate to the GO Group and to social enterprises such as the Wise Group and CEiS?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I thought that local authorities subcontracted the whole thing to companies such as the GO Group, so I am surprised that there is also another organisation within the local authority.
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I will initially be parochial, as I fought the seat in Ayr and have been a member of South Ayrshire Council and a South Ayrshire council tax payer. Isabell Majewsky mentioned North Ayrshire Council. Having dealt with business gateway in Ayr and talked to some of your represent...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Perhaps we can differ on that point.We heard about the marketing budget for the national unit. Unless the information is commercially confidential, will you say how big the GO Group’s marketing budget for business gateway provision in Glasgow and Ayrshire is?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
None at all.
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
You are very lucky if a lot of your businesses are on market pull, but I suspect, although I may be wrong, that there must be some market push. Are you telling me that, in the contract that you submitted, there was no element at all for marketing in the breakdown of costs?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
My final question is for Isabell Majewsky. What role do you play in setting the targets for start-up survival rates, which you have rightly highlighted as key, in the initial contract? How do you review those targets annually? What is the process? What input do you have into t...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
14 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
With regard to finance, we have tended to live in a bubble with what we consider to be our local banks. However, I have just had experience of a social enterprise company that has secured a large sum of money from a foreign bank. Those banks are at least willing to come in and...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I will start with some numbers, if I may, and be very boring. How much did it cost to produce and distribute the Ekosgen report?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
What is the budget for the board in total—not just for operational costs? What does the board see as its financial responsibility?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Yes, it is the central budget that I am asking about. What is your central budget?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Just over £2 million for the board. Does that include the operational network?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Is that provided through a national unit?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
We were told last week that it is £1.8 million. You are saying that it is £300,000.
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Okay. What are the main differences between what you do and what the national unit does?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Forgive me if I am asking the wrong question, but let us take North Ayrshire, for example. I do not know how many people you have in local development in North Ayrshire Council.
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Thirty-five. South Ayrshire Council subcontracts its services to you and you subcontract your services to the GO Group. Is that consistent with the contractual arrangements in other areas of Scotland?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I have a great difficulty. You have an operational budget of £12 million a year—£62 million for the business gateway services—but total spending on economic development services across all local authorities in 2009-10 was £327.5 million. You have 35 people providing local deve...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
What is the purpose of the board if you are looking for consensus across Scotland but some local authorities are bringing the services in-house? There is no point in having a board that is trying to achieve consensus, is there?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
But we are advised that some might bring them in-house.
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
You are trying to achieve a consensus. I thought that part of the reason for the devolution of the business gateway to local authorities was to recognise the diversity of the authorities and regions. We have a plethora of organisations under your board’s auspices, with differe...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Thank you, convener—I will ensure that that is done.The issue that I have is about the tendering process for the contracts and the achievement of consensus, which is difficult given the number of bodies that are involved. The Ekosgen report says that the business gateway is fi...
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
Help me with the tendering process. There are questions about who employs the board. To whom is the board accountable?
Chic Brodie SNP Committee
21 Sep 2011
Business Gateway Inquiry
I have one more question on governance. The Ekosgen report was sent to the business gateway external stakeholders group. Is it fair to have such consultation when some members of that group are potential bidders or current contractors?
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 28 January 2014

28 Jan 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Tackling Child Sexual Exploitation in Scotland

I believe that we all come to the Parliament, sometimes amid rhetoric and cosmetics, to try to make a difference—however big or small—to our fellow citizens. In this debate, we have collectively demonstrated the need to express that difference in the name of our children.

In 1997, Nelson Mandela said:

“There can be no keener revelation of a society’s soul than the way in which it treats its children.”

Today’s debate has exemplified, in the face of what was a very challenging inquiry, as John Wilson said, what that means for us and the society that we wish to reflect in Scotland.

I acknowledge, as the convener did, all those who participated in the inquiry, and particularly Barnardo’s for bringing the petition to us.

The report is comprehensive, but before I address it, I congratulate all the participants in the debate. It is salutary to consider some of the words and phrases that have been used, such as “neglect”, “revulsion”, “disjointed”, “trust”, “lack of co-ordination” and “gaps” in communication. In particular, Jayne Baxter’s and Jackson Carlaw’s contributions are to be commended.

In the inquiry, we talked about not just cause and effect but the need for action above all. In many ways, the report considers the effects and recommendations to mitigate the effects, which I will come to, but the cause is just as important, and I would like to consider it first. I will therefore start, perversely, with part 5 of the report and how we can disrupt, prosecute and severely penalise the perpetrators. What I have to say must have some bearing—as I am sure it will—on the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill.

As Angus MacDonald said, Daljeet Dagon of Barnardo’s explained that she had

“talked about the triangle approach that Barnardo’s developed, whereby the focus is on the victim but there is also recognition that there is a child sex offender and a facilitator. We have to flip the triangle over and focus on disrupting and prosecuting perpetrators, and we should identify locations”

where they will operate

“and police them better”.—[Official Report, Public Petitions Committee, 11 June 2013; c 1434.]

That is not just for the police; it is also for the third sector agencies and families, as has been mentioned.

Police Scotland said that the wider community was pivotal in recognising and reporting CSE, but it was asked why the Protection of Children and Prevention of Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 2005 had not been used effectively, if at all. It is not acceptable that, if that act was to give new tools and powers to the police, freedom of information requests in 2012 found that, between them, Lothian and Borders Police and Strathclyde Police had issued only two RSHOs. The same applied to the sexual offence prevention orders. Only 1.05 per cent of offenders on the sex offenders register had SOPOs applied. I welcome Police Scotland’s commitment to secure additional mandatory training and highlight all the legislative options that are open to it, and its optimism—which, I am sure, is not misplaced—that the single service will ensure that Scotland has a wider approach to ensuring that victims are protected.

It is not just down to the police, of course; as I said, it is down to a multi-agency approach. That said, several, if not many, organisations, including the ministerial short-life working group, the national working group for sexually exploited children, the Office of the Children’s Commissioner in the inquiry into CSE in gangs and groups, CEOP and the NSPCC, have assessed and reported on the effects of, and the leading up to, child sexual exploitation.

Of course, as I said, running in parallel with the committee’s inquiry and report was consideration of the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill, so it would be wrong to suggest that nothing is happening. Something is happening. For example, Barnardo’s Scotland has stated that it has

“established a partnership ... with Renfrewshire Council and the local police to better protect children who go missing, with a particular focus on CSE.”

In addition, the Glasgow child protection committee has taken a multi-agency approach to investigating CSE. However, it is too disparate and inconsistent, and it is frankly not as joined up as we might wish, as John Wilson pointed out.

Despite there being many examples of good practice across Scotland, the response is patchy and the various demands to address the support needs of children in a co-ordinated way were questioned by the committee. On addressing children’s needs and vulnerabilities, the training of those who are involved in detecting children targeted for CSE, supporting children who have experienced CSE, and disrupting and capturing actual and would-be perpetrators, the committee believed that all those areas were inadequately co-ordinated.

That is why the report suggests that there should in fact be, as has been mentioned, a national strategy for tackling child sexual exploitation. That should include an organisation to co-ordinate a national approach to tackling and preventing the enemy within that is CSE, and to support the victims. The committee noted that the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill was imminent and it suggested that the serious issue of CSE should be considered as part of the scrutiny of the bill, or at least considered in tandem with that scrutiny.

A feature of the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill is the requirement for a named person to consider a child’s interests. Within the committee’s proposal for a national framework, we suggest that the Government establish as soon as possible that a named person or overarching organisation be made directly responsible for the accelerated co-ordination and implementation of the process and the communication links to not reduce but eradicate the scourge of CSE from our communities.

However, for any strategy or organisation to be successful it must understand what the problem is and how it is defined. Of course, it is contiguous with sexual abuse, but it has a particular black form with the attendant material seductions. The basis of any successful tactical operation that flows from the strategy must be a composite of the key elements that the committee considered for the proposed organisation and the critical factors in the recommendations.

I wish that I could say that I was delighted to participate in the inquiry, but delighted is the wrong word; it would be much more appropriate to say that the inquiry was harrowing. The inquiry could have done and dug so much more if it had had more time. The Government has accepted the committee’s proposal to develop a framework, but the proposal for a co-operative organisation with clear responsibilities, required outcomes and a data mechanism to scope the challenge will be, on acceptance, a huge step forward. I welcome the proposed national plan.

I started with a quotation from Nelson Mandela and, if I may, I will finish with another. He said:

“Our children are our greatest treasure. They are our future. Those who abuse them tear at the fabric of our society and weaken our nation.”

Hopefully, the Public Petitions Committee’s report will go some way towards making sure that that does not happen.

We ignore the report at our peril. It is significant and the recommendations are highly significant. If they are not attended to, CSE will eat away at our social fabric and the social relationships therein. I would ask, I would encourage and I would plead that all members read the detail of the report—every word and recommendation—and understand what it means for our children and our society.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-08840, in the name of David Stewart, on the report on tackling child sexual exploitation in Scotland. It ...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
The Public Petitions Committee’s role, in my view, is to shine a light into the dark corners of Scotland, and there can be no darker corner than child sexual...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
The member will be aware that adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse have welcomed the report, which focuses on child sexual exploitation, which includes ...
David Stewart Lab
The member has made some interesting points and I am happy to go along to her cross-party group in April to go through those points in a lot more detail. I t...
The Minister for Children and Young People (Aileen Campbell) SNP
I thank David Stewart and all the members of the Public Petitions Committee for their comprehensive work on child sexual exploitation. This is a debate that ...
Margaret Mitchell Con
Earlier, the minister mentioned the Rochdale case in greater Manchester. In that case, the national health service crisis intervention team helped to expose ...
Aileen Campbell SNP
I thank Margaret Mitchell for the clear interest that she takes in working to ensure that some of the issues that we are discussing are dealt with adequately...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
A view is starting to be heard that, rather than police forces, taxpayers and voluntary groups investigating the actions of people on the internet, internet ...
Aileen Campbell SNP
There are many different issues around internet safety—not least some of the particularly tragic incidents that happened last summer—which is why we held and...
Jayne Baxter (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I begin by thanking the Public Petitions Committee for its work in producing the report that we are debating today. My Labour colleagues and I join members ...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank David Stewart for his opening speech, introducing the committee’s report. I add my thanks to those who gave evidence, the clerks and others who made ...
Aileen Campbell SNP
I have said that we want to take all the learning that we have and to have an action plan, so that we can take action, as opposed to having another prolonged...
Jackson Carlaw Con
I agree with the minister—I hope that I have not been giving a false impression. Any national strategy has to be based on actions, and I welcome what the min...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
We move to the open debate. We have a little time in hand. I can offer David Torrance, to be followed by Graeme Pearson, up to seven minutes. 15:14
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
I begin by thanking the committee clerking team for their hard work and their efforts in helping us put together the report. I also thank the numerous orga...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I offer my sincere thanks to three separate entities. First, I thank Barnardo’s for bringing forward the evidence that lay behind the petition, which resulte...
Aileen Campbell SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Graeme Pearson Lab
I will, if the Presiding Officer is happy for me to do so.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I am.
Aileen Campbell SNP
I am sorry for intervening at this stage; I had not quite realised how far into his allotted time the member was. I point out that, last year, we hosted a s...
Graeme Pearson Lab
I thank the minister for that intervention and I am happy to acknowledge her point. The use of chat rooms to choreograph the exploitation of children is a ne...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
As a member of the Public Petitions Committee since 2008, I found the petition one of the most challenging that I have faced, given the subject matter that w...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I congratulate David Stewart and his Public Petitions Committee colleagues on their work. The issue of child sexual exploitation is undoubtedly complex, and ...
Angus MacDonald (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
I hope that Parliament will bear with me as I speak with a heavy cold, but also with a heavy heart as we debate this horrendous subject. Child sexual exploit...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
I thank the committee for its work and Barnardo’s for its petition. David Stewart was right to talk about “the dark corners of Scotland”. None of us doubts...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. We often say that debates are important, but I cannot think of many debates that are more important than on...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
I, too, thank the committee for the difficult work that it undertook in its inquiry. As the convener, Dave Stewart, and Angus MacDonald said, if one child is...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I am especially pleased to participate in the debate, as I am a member of the Public Petitions Committee that produced the report on tackling child sexual ex...
Clare Adamson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I thank my colleagues who sit on the Public Petitions Committee for their dedication in bringing this important issue to the chamber. I echo Liam McArthur’s ...
Liam McArthur LD
I am very grateful to Clare Adamson for taking an intervention. She will know that I support the principle of the named person, but one of the concerns that ...