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Mr Andy Kerr (East Kilbride) (Lab): Lab Chamber
11 May 2000
Telecommunications
I am delighted to open this debate on behalf of the Transport and the Environment Committee. I thank my colleagues for their hard work in producing a thoughtful and thorough report. I also thank the clerking and research staff, who have contributed greatly to the report.I beli...
The Minister for Finance and Public Services (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
09 Sep 2003
European Union Agenda (Scottish Executive Priorities)
Thank you, convener. It is at moments like this that I recall the pleasant position conveners are in, looking down the table towards the ministers. However, today I have the enviable opportunity of presenting to the committee the Executive's strategy at this critical moment in...
Mr Kerr: Lab Committee
23 May 2002
Budget Process 2003-04
"Dedicated" is not the word of which I was thinking, but it is good to be here. Earlier, I had a useful visit to an innovative modernising government fund project that Orkney Islands Council and its partners are undertaking up the road in the East Kirk. It is always useful to ...
The Minister for Finance and Public Services (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
24 Feb 2004
Scottish Executive Priorities (Irish Presidency)
Tim Simons and Alastair Wilson are with me to provide assistance where appropriate on the detail.I thank the convener for his welcome. It is good to be back before the committee. I thought that it would be useful to give a presentation because, at the outset, I was concerned a...
Mr Kerr: Lab Committee
14 Sep 2004
Regions with Legislative Power (Scottish Presidency)
I will do so very briefly, just to give some shape to the discussion. The committee has it from the horse's mouth because I am responsible for the Executive's external relations strategy, including the work that the First Minister does in his role in Regleg. I want to be absol...
The Minister for Finance and Public Services (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
27 Apr 2004
Spending Review 2004
I hope that the committee has had an opportunity to take a good look at the new format of the annual evaluation report. I am sure that later in the process we will discuss the AER and the way in which we are, I hope, continuing to improve the efficacy of the information that w...
The Convener: Lab Committee
05 Sep 2001
Petitions
The petitioners have done well by raising the issue. It is also good to have senior members of the Campaign for Borders Rail at the committee, in the shape of the MSPs who have spoken.A number of issues have been raised. The committee continually monitors the budget process an...
The Convener: Lab Committee
05 Sep 2001
Petitions
The Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee, which has responsibility for overseeing economic matters, has written in plain terms to say that it will not pursue the matter. Our remit is environmental. I am happy to discuss the way in which we can deal with the environmental...
The Minister for Finance and Public Services (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
14 Sep 2004
Scottish Executive Priorities (Dutch Presidency)<br />Scottish Executive European Strategy
First, let me associate myself with the convener's remarks about sending best wishes to Margaret Ewing and about this fantastic building. As this is your last meeting, convener, let me also acknowledge your elevation within your party. However, I probably draw the line at wish...
The Convener: Lab Committee
26 Apr 2000
Subordinate Legislation
I thank the minister and her colleagues for attending the committee this morning.We now move on to agenda item 3, which is a negative instrument. I refer members to committee paper TE/00/8/7, which is the Scotland Act 1998 (Agency Arrangements) (Specification) Order 2000. I al...
The Convener: Lab Committee
23 May 2000
Subordinate Legislation
Agenda item 3 is an affirmative statutory instrument, the Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc) Order 2000. As usual, the instrument is accompanied by an Executive covering note, TE/00/13/11, and a committee covering note, TE/00/13/12. The Hea...
The Convener: Lab Committee
31 May 2000
Petitions
I will attempt to sum up the way in which the committee is moving on this subject. For future petitions, we want to see supporting papers from the local authority concerned, restricting ourselves to the processes, systems and principles of the system, as opposed to papers on i...
The Convener: Lab Committee
13 Jun 2000
Petitions
In future, we may indicate on the agenda that a petition is simply to be noted. If members require any further information, they can receive it through the clerk. That would be a sensible way in which to deal with all the paperwork.I sympathise with your comments, Kenny. Some ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
04 Jul 2000
Subordinate Legislation
Agenda item 3 is subordinate legislation. We will consider the negative Scottish statutory instrument, the Environmental Protection (Waste Recycling Payments) (Scotland) Regulations 2000 (SSI 2000/185). I refer members to the covering note that goes with the instrument.The ins...
The Convener: Lab Committee
21 Nov 2001
Aquaculture Inquiry
Agenda item 4 is our aquaculture inquiry. This is the first evidence-taking session during our rolling inquiry into aquaculture and is the first of three sessions that are designed to focus on the regulatory framework for aquaculture.We have received correspondence from the De...
Mr Kerr: Lab Chamber
24 Mar 2004
Local Governance (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We have sought to achieve a balance between the two significant McIntosh criteria of proportionality and the member-ward link. I will deal with that point in more detail later.In examining the evidence that was presented to it, the committee has considered that any disadvantag...
The Minister for Health and Community Care (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Chamber
15 Jun 2005
Sexual Health
As MSPs are aware, the Executive decided to produce a sexual health strategy because sexual health in Scotland is undeniably poor. The number of unintended teenage pregnancies in Scotland is among the highest in western Europe, as is the incidence of sexually transmitted infec...
The Convener (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
30 Jun 1999
Convener
I get a swivel chair—now I know why Robin did not want to move.First, I thank members for that vote of confidence in my becoming the convener of the committee. It is a vindication of the Scottish Parliament that someone as young as Robin can be the oldest member of a committee...
The Convener: Lab Committee
22 Nov 2000
Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Now that we have completed consideration at stage 2 of the Transport (Scotland) Bill, it is worth reflecting on the considerable input the committee has made into the bill during our past few meetings.At stage 1 we produced a comprehensive report on the bill, which laid the gr...
The Convener: Lab Committee
29 Nov 2000
Subordinate Legislation
The first Scottish statutory instrument for consideration is the Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedule 5) Order 2000, which is accompanied by an Executive note. The instrument was laid on 9 November 2000. The Parliament designated the Transport and the Environment Commi...
The Convener: Lab Committee
24 Jan 2001
Public Petition
Item 4 is consideration of petition PE96, from Allan Berry. We have discussed the petition. It was referred to the Rural Development Committee and the Transport and the Environment Committee, because it requests an independent inquiry into the environmental impacts of sea-cage...
Mr Kerr: Lab Chamber
19 Dec 2001
Budget Process 2002-03: Stage 2
The term is "planned underspend". Just because that money is part of EYF does not mean that the way in which it is spent is not subject to rigorous accountability procedures. It is spent on real priorities to help real people and to achieve real results. It is not dished out w...
The Minister for Finance and Public Services (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
03 Feb 2004
Local Governance (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Tavish Scott and I are grateful for having the opportunity to give evidence to the committee on the Local Governance (Scotland) Bill. I hope to keep my opening remarks fairly brief, but we would like to make a few points to the committee before responding to questions.We have ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
30 Jun 1999
Remit
We must now address the remit of the committee and topics for future briefing. I hope that members have read the relevant documents. For the benefit of members of the public, it is stated that our role is to consider and report on matters relating to transport and the environm...
The Convener (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
26 Apr 2000
Subordinate Legislation
I welcome members of the public to this meeting of the Transport and the Environment Committee. I also welcome the minister back to the committee. We appreciate the time and effort that she and her colleagues put into attending the committee's meetings.We have two affirmative ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
26 Apr 2000
National Parks (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome members of the press and the public back to the eighth meeting of the Transport and the Environment Committee. We have been discussing other matters since 8.50 am, but we are pleased to get to the meat of today's events, which is oral evidence on the National Parks (...
The Convener: Lab Committee
13 Jun 2000
Petitions
I refer members to petition PE96, from Mr Allan Berry, which is accompanied as usual by a committee covering note, TE/00/15/1. Mr Berry is calling on the Parliament to hold an independent and public inquiry into sea cage fish farming. The petition was referred to the Rural Aff...
The Convener: Lab Committee
17 Jan 2001
Subordinate Legislation
Agenda item 4 is subordinate legislation.I refer members to the Financial Assistance for Environmental Purposes (Scotland) Order 2000 (SSI 2000/430), which is accompanied as usual by a committee covering note. The instrument, for which we have been designated the lead committe...
The Convener: Lab Committee
31 Jan 2001
Scotland Act 1998 (Agency Arrangements) (Specification) (No 2) Order 2000<br />(SI 2000/3250)
The next item on the agenda is consideration of subordinate legislation. The Scotland Act 1998 (Agency Arrangements) (Specification) (No 2) Order 2000 (SI 2000/3250) was laid on 8 January and the committee has been designated as lead committee for its consideration. In accorda...
The Convener: Lab Committee
04 Apr 2001
Subordinate Legislation
Agenda item 2 is consideration of the Environmental Protection Act 1990 (Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2001 (SSI 2001/99). The instrument was laid on 14 March and the Transport and the Environment Committee has been designated as the lead committee for consideration of the...
Mr Andy Kerr (East Kilbride) (Lab): Lab Chamber
03 May 2001
Genetically Modified Organisms
It is a great pleasure to bring the Transport and the Environment Committee's report to the attention of Parliament. A strength of the committee is that we come to issues without carrying baggage and preconceptions about the matters that we choose to investigate. We listen to ...
Mr Kerr: Lab Committee
24 Feb 2004
Scottish Executive Priorities (Irish Presidency)
Thank you, Keith. If you want, I will quote some of your comments about our strategy, which I think were extremely unhelpful.Like me, the committee has heard from the Irish ambassador about the main priorities of the Irish presidency, so it is aware of what he has to say. The ...
The Minister for Finance and Public Services (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
23 Apr 2002
Private Finance Initiative/Public-private Partnership Inquiry
I want to explain briefly my role in relation to PPP policy and funding in Scotland. I also want to answer your questions on the issue as best as I can. Sandy Rosie and Andrew Clearie are here to help me with that.I have done my best to read the Official Report of some of the ...
The Minister for Finance and Public Services (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
30 Sep 2003
Budget Process 2004-05
I intend to explain three basic issues: where our EYF money comes from; how we allocated it; and what the results of our allocation process were. I also wish to touch on the broader issues around how we try to manage underspend within the Executive.The resources that were carr...
The Convener: Lab Committee
22 Sep 1999
Environmental Impact Assessment Forestry (Scotland) Regulations 1999 (SSI 1999/43)
We move now to a similar process with regard to agenda item 2. This instrument was laid on 3 September 1999 and is subject to annulment until 27 October 1999. The European Committee and the Rural Affairs Committee have considered the instrument and have nothing to report. The ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
22 Sep 1999
Telecommunications Development
I would need to discuss the matter with the Convener of the Health and Community Care Committee to establish whether that approach would be welcomed. We are all under different pressures. This committee has a huge work load, and it would understandable if other committees want...
The Convener: Lab Committee
15 Mar 2000
Petition
I refer members to PE68 from the National Farmers Union of Scotland, which calls for the agriculture sector to be exempted from the proposed climate change levy. I also refer members to the covering note.The petition was referred to the Transport and the Environment Committee ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
29 Mar 2000
Budget
We have laid down markers that we would require further information on that.Are there any other comments on the content of the report? First, I want to seek the committee's approval for the proposed time scale for the committee's consideration of the spending plans at stage 1....
The Convener: Lab Committee
04 Apr 2000
Petition
Petition PE113 is accompanied by a covering note, TE/00/7/10. As I am sure all members will know, there is great public interest in this petition, which has been signed by more than 17,000 people. It was discussed at a well-attended meeting of the Public Petitions Committee at...
The Convener: Lab Committee
10 May 2000
Subordinate Legislation
We now come to consider agenda item 4, a negative statutory instrument, the Designation of Nitrate Vulnerable Zones (Scotland) Regulations 2000 (SSI 2000/96), as shown on committee paper TE/00/11/6. The regulations are accompanied, as normal, by an Executive covering note and ...
The Convener (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
23 May 2000
Scottish Parliament<br />Transport and the Environment Committee<br />Tuesday 23 May 2000<br />(Morning)
I welcome members of the public and committee members to this meeting, the 13th of the Transport and the Environment Committee this year. I advise the committee that I have received apologies from Kenny MacAskill. I also advise the committee that our clerk, Lynn Tullis, has gi...
The Convener: Lab Committee
13 Jun 2000
Petitions
I sense that the committee is generally supportive of the petition and that we should have discussions with the Social Inclusion, Housing and Voluntary Sector Committee about whether that committee will have an investigation into the issues that the petition raises or whether ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
13 Jun 2000
Petitions
The final petition, PE135, is from Marion Scott. It is accompanied by committee covering note TE/00/15/9. The petition requests that the Parliament addresses a number of issues relating to mobile phone masts. The Public Petitions Committee has requested that we pass the detail...
The Convener: Lab Committee
20 Sep 2000
Public Petitions (Procedure)
I am more than happy with what members have said—there is an issue about the Public Petitions Committee, and the Procedures Committee has a role to play in that—but the paper tries to discuss the mechanics of how we deal with petitions once we receive them. Helen Eadie mention...
The Convener: Lab Committee
20 Sep 2000
Petitions
We now move to consideration of petitions. Petition PE96, from Mr Allan Berry, calls on the Scottish Parliament to hold an independent public inquiry into the adverse environmental effects of sea cage fish farming. A copy of the petition has been circulated to members. Members...
The Convener: Lab Committee
27 Sep 2000
Petitions
The next petition, PE96, is from Mr Allan Berry. It calls the Scottish Parliament to hold an independent and public inquiry into the adverse environmental effects of sea cage fish farming. A copy of the petition was circulated at last week's meeting. Members will have a list o...
The Convener: Lab Committee
29 Nov 2000
Subordinate Legislation
I welcome Allan Wilson to the committee for the first time in his new role as Deputy Minister for Sport and Culture. I also welcome the officials who accompany him.I refer members to the Scotland Act 1998 (Cross-Border Public Authorities) (Adaptation of Functions etc) (No 2) O...
The Convener: Lab Committee
17 Jan 2001
Subordinate Legislation
The next negative instrument is the Control of Pollution (Registers and Consents for Discharges) (Secretary of State Functions) Amendment Regulations 2000 (SSI 2000/432), which is accompanied by a committee covering note. The instrument was laid on 30 November 2000. The Transp...
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Mar 2001
Petitions
In the past, we have studiously avoided becoming involved in detailed planning matters on which the correct body has taken decisions. If there is no flaw in the process, it is really not our business. That is what local accountability is all about. Going along with what Murray...
The Convener: Lab Committee
25 Apr 2001
Subordinate Legislation
Item 2 concerns the Domestic Water and Sewerage Charges (Reduction) (Scotland) Regulations 2001. The order was laid on 20 March 2001 and, as members are aware, we have been designated as the lead committee for consideration of the instrument. The order is accompanied by an Exe...
The Convener (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
09 Nov 2001
Scottish Parliament<br />Transport and the Environment Committee<br />Friday 9 November 2001
I begin by welcoming the press and public to this meeting of the Transport and the Environment Committee. I also welcome some MSPs who are not usually with us—Mike Rumbles, Richard Lochhead, Brian Adam and Elaine Thomson—but who are particularly interested in our agenda this m...
Mr Kerr: Lab Chamber
03 May 2001
Genetically Modified Organisms
I am not sure whether Brian Adam is referring to the Advanta incident. If so, the committee report refers to that and I will cover it later.ACRE's job is to consider an individual bid for a seed to be placed into the environment, to carry out the laboratory testing that is req...
Mr Kerr: Lab Chamber
19 Dec 2001
Budget Process 2002-03: Stage 2
With respect, I wanted to clear off the recommendations, so that everyone knows what we are saying about them, before I let others in on the debate.On the sixth recommendation, I am happy to consider breaking down further the Executive's administrative costs to include any add...
Mr Kerr: Lab Chamber
16 Jan 2003
Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 1
As Mr Harding has pointed out, the bill is a private member's bill, which is a process of which the Scottish Parliament should be proud. The issue might not be the biggest issue in Scotland and it might not be on the tip of everyone's tongue at the moment, but it affects the q...
Mr Kerr: Lab Chamber
15 Jun 2005
Sexual Health
I have a lot of material to get through. First, I thank the many members who have expressed support for the strategy. I also thank them for the degree of maturity that has been demonstrated in the debate. I will run through some of the key issues. In my role as minister, I hav...
The Minister for Finance and Public Services (Mr Andy Kerr): Lab Committee
16 Apr 2002
Budget Process 2003-04
I have just a few opening remarks. I like your gaff, as they say. It is a pleasant place to give evidence.I thank the committee for the opportunity to discuss stage 1 of the 2003-04 budget process. I know that the committee will focus on the aggregate local government totals f...
The Convener: Lab Committee
22 Sep 1999
Environmental Impact Assessment (Scotland) Regulations 1999 (SSI 1999/1)
Our first item of business is consideration of SSI 1999/1. As committee members will be aware, it was laid on 9 July 1999 and is subject to annulment until 9 October 1999. I further advise the committee that the European Committee and the Subordinate Legislation Committee have...
The Convener: Lab Committee
10 May 2000
Subordinate Legislation
I thank the minister and her colleagues for attending a very long session.We have a second instrument under the negative procedure to consider today, the Radioactive Substances (Basic Safety Standards) (Scotland) Regulations 2000. I refer members to committee paper TE/00/11/09...
The Convener: Lab Committee
31 May 2000
Subordinate Legislation
Agenda item 2 is consideration of a negative Scottish statutory instrument—the Smoke Control Areas (Authorised Fuels) (Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2000 (SSI 2000/129). We have received an Executive covering note and a committee covering note. We will follow the standard ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
20 Sep 2000
Public Petitions (Procedure)
We move swiftly on to item four on the agenda. I refer members to the paper that outlines a possible new approach to dealing with public petitions. As the paper indicates, we are having to cope with a large number of petitions that have been referred to us. Out of 36 petitions...
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Chamber

Plenary, 11 May 2000

11 May 2000 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Telecommunications
I am delighted to open this debate on behalf of the Transport and the Environment Committee. I thank my colleagues for their hard work in producing a thoughtful and thorough report. I also thank the clerking and research staff, who have contributed greatly to the report.

I believe that the report is a vindication of the committee system of the Scottish Parliament. Cross-party representation and people's ability to contribute their views have resulted in a consensual report, without any divisions, but with plenty decisions. As I have said on many occasions, the experience of the Transport and the Environment Committee in this inquiry has been yet another good example of how this Parliament works best.

The issue covered by the report was first raised with me by the community living in Lister Tower in East Kilbride, who came to me with some searching questions that I could not answer. Those questions were repeated by the high-rise flats residents association, which represents people in other high-rise flats in East Kilbride. I was asked: "What are these masts? How did they get here? Why was I not told about it? Is there a health problem?"

When I shared those concerns with members of the Transport and the Environment Committee, we were all able to relate them to our own areas, where communities were coming up with similar questions. We did not have clear answers. When we started our investigation, many other MSPs told me similar stories. Local newspapers are running campaigns all over the country. In my constituency, the East Kilbride News is running articles and asking questions on this issue. Again, answers are not to hand.

The strength of this Parliament and its committee system lies in the fact that we were able to take up the issue, agree a remit, take action and reach a conclusion. I hope that the minister will take the issue to its ultimate conclusion and, in due course, adopt our recommendations in full.

Since the report was released, it has received a warm welcome from many people inside and outside the Parliament, including organisations and individuals in communities. I have been genuinely surprised by the impact that it has had and the attention that it has received. The response to the report has only added to our desire to see the matter resolved in the manner advocated by the committee.

The Transport and the Environment Committee recognises the importance and the social and economic benefits of modern telecommunications systems. We also recognise that this is an emergent technology and that exciting developments offer us the third generation of mobile telephony, wireless application protocol, and the possibility of using the internet from the handset of a mobile phone. However, all that is counterbalanced by the genuine concerns of the public and of planning authorities over the perceived lack of planning controls and over telecommunications developments and their related impacts.

The economic contribution of the technology is immense. I am sure that the Parliament recognises that. We can all imagine how it would affect our lives if we were unable to use our pagers and mobile phones. Commerce and society as a whole are aware of the necessity of this technology.

At its meeting on 22 September 1999, the Transport and the Environment Committee took evidence from the Scottish Executive on the process for considering telecommunications developments in Scotland and on its proposals for revising the planning regimes for those developments. We also took evidence from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities. Not entirely convinced by what we heard, the committee decided to undertake further inquiries into the appropriate process for considering telecommunications developments.

The committee was concerned that the Executive's proposed approach of bringing telecommunications developments under a system of prior approval could be insufficient in terms of the control required in the planning system. As in all things that the committee undertook, we were meticulous. We ensured that the inquiry was sufficiently wide to enable us to draw conclusions, and yet not so wide that we would have either been swamped by the issues or crossed into the remits of other committees, something that we were keen to avoid.

It is important to stress that, for the Transport and the Environment Committee, this was an issue about the environment. Although we looked at health issues, we considered a number of other issues. We were clear that, if we were to examine health issues, we would do so in the context of the planning process.

As members are aware, the Stewart committee will report today at 10.30 am; I understand that a summary is available at the back of the chamber. The report deals with many of the health matters. Members will also have seen the health concerns expressed in today's newspapers.

The committee sought views on the proposed planning procedure and on the policy framework for the consideration of telecommunications developments. The terms of reference to which witnesses were invited to respond were: whether telecommunications developments should be subject to full planning controls; what factors—such as health, amenity and the precautionary principle—should be taken into account in forming policy on telecommunications developments; and what the published guidance from the Scottish Executive should contain. I am pleased to report that the committee received many written responses and supplementary papers.

The committee met on a number of occasions on this subject and heard oral evidence from 20 organisations and individuals. I believe that the strength of the committee structure in the Scottish Parliament lies in the fact that we could harness the best information on the subject from Government, local government, elected members and officials, the industry—in the form of the phone companies and professional bodies and organisations—pressure groups and, crucially, community groups and campaign groups that are dealing with mobile phone masts literally in their own back yard.

On the evidence that we received in writing and from organisations that attended the committee, we came to the following conclusions. Under the current planning framework for telecommunications, developers and operators enjoy permitted development rights. The majority of planning authorities that responded to the inquiry sought enhanced planning control over telecommunications. In particular, they expressed concerns about the speed, quality and effectiveness of the current process, which they said lacked local democracy and local accountability. In its oral evidence, COSLA stated that the common ground between the Scottish Executive and the operators was that the present system was inadequate and should be changed. The committee concurred with that view.

At the time of our report, the Scottish Executive proposed the introduction of a prior approval procedure to give planning authorities greater control. It was believed that the system, which incorporates licence conditions, permitted development rights and planning guidance, would provide adequate planning control and would be consistent with the Government's policy. However, the committee came to the conclusion that there were significant weaknesses with regard to prior approval. The system will need to be reassessed in the light of the Stewart committee. I am pleased to say that the Stewart committee—I have had a quick look at its report—concurs with our views that prior approval is not satisfactory in terms of control.

The committee's report notes that the Department of Trade and Industry and the telecommunications developers suggest that the introduction of full planning control would not be a preferred option. However, that view contrasts with the position of COSLA, the planning authorities, Scottish Natural Heritage, the Royal Town Planning Institute in Scotland and others, which support the introduction of full planning control, which they suggest would have a number of advantages over the system of prior approval.

The committee recognises the social and economic benefits arising from modern telecommunications systems. However, having carefully considered the evidence, the committee is not convinced that the introduction of full planning control will significantly slow down the roll-out of telecommunications developments and concludes that the benefits of the introduction of full planning control outweigh the potential disadvantages. The committee therefore supports the introduction of full planning control for telecommunications developments. I am, again, pleased to say that the Stewart committee concurs with our view on that matter.

At the start of the inquiry, the committee sought views on the factors that may require to be taken into account in informing policy. The key factors relate to amenity, health and a precautionary approach.

The committee is of the view that a number of steps should be taken to minimise the environmental impact of telecommunications developments, including: early discussion with telecommunications developers, operators and planning authorities on strategic network requirements; site sharing; mast sharing; design and disguise of masts; and the introduction of a requirement on telecommunications developers to conclude national roaming arrangements.

The committee considered that some areas might be more environmentally sensitive than others—for example, areas subject to existing designations and areas that local authorities and other bodies identify as sensitive. The siting of telecommunications infrastructure in those areas would not necessarily be precluded. The committee recommends that the Scottish Executive should, allowing for local flexibility, develop guidance on the treatment of environmentally sensitive areas to minimise the impact of telecommunications development. We take the view that, beyond that, it is for individual planning authorities to determine the designation of environmentally sensitive areas with regard to the characteristics of their localities.

On health, the committee recognises that there is no conclusive scientific evidence on non-thermal effects and the risk to the public. The report from the Stewart committee, which we now have, states:

"We conclude that the balance of evidence indicates that there is no general risk to the health of people living near to base stations on the basis that exposures are expected to be small fractions of guidelines. However, there can be indirect adverse effects on their well-being in some cases".

Based on that judgment and the committee's judgment—which in turn is based on the evidence that we received—and recognising the complex issues of public health, including information on the perceived effects, the committee considers that there is reasonable doubt about the health risks. We therefore recommend that health should be viewed as a material planning consideration and that a precautionary approach should be adopted at a national level, allowing for local flexibility.

The committee thinks that sites such as schools, nurseries, hospitals and residential areas should be considered sensitive for environmental health reasons. We recommend that, in taking the precautionary approach, local authorities should refer to a hierarchy of preferred locations for telecommunications developments. Where possible, densely populated areas should be avoided in favour of areas that are more sparsely populated. However, the committee does not believe that there is sufficient evidence to support a recommendation for the implementation of mechanisms such as a cordon sanitaire. The Stewart report has much more to say on health; and other members may raise the issue in this debate.

The inquiry received evidence, particularly from local authorities, that supported the need for clear and firm Government guidance on a range of matters within a national policy framework. The committee recommends that the Scottish Executive should develop a national plan incorporating telecommunications developments and co-ordinating the plans of other agencies. The committee recommends that in the interim there should be speedy preparation of national planning guidance on telecommunications development, which should be supported by a planning advice note setting out best practice.

Within that framework, local authorities should be encouraged to develop their policies on telecommunications developments speedily and, if necessary, through amendments to existing plans. The committee recommends that the process of developing the policy framework and guidance should allow full consultation with interested bodies, including telecommunications developers and operators.

Several requirements for guidance were identified during the inquiry. The committee recommends that guidance should be based on a precautionary approach. Guidance should cover health and safety; planning and development control; obligations on operators and information that is required from them; the role and responsibilities of different parts of the Scottish Executive and other bodies; monitoring and reporting; and good practice for local planning authorities and telecommunications developers.

I am now aware of the contents of the report of the Stewart inquiry and am pleased that it has echoed many of our proposals. It is interesting to note that our report is one of the four references in the Stewart report; that is a measure of the committee's work. I am particularly pleased that the Stewart group supported our view that there should be full planning powers.

I thank the Minister for Transport and the Environment for her positive response, which has been widely trailed and was issued to committee members. There are matters of detail on which we may differ, but I am sure that we will soon be able to resolve those differences. However, I will stick to the substantive point on full planning. I acknowledge the warm response that there has been to many of our proposals.

I hope that the minister will tell us when she will make a full response to the committee report and the Stewart report, stating what action will be taken and in what time scale it will be taken. She can rest assured that the Transport and the Environment Committee will remain on the case until that response has been received.

I urge members to examine the facts that we have gathered and the conclusions that we have drawn. The issue is complex and multifaceted, but that reflects the society that has brought us to this debate and the communities throughout Scotland for which its outcome matters. Everyone is involved, even if they do not look intently at the signal strength on their phone or live close to a mast. Some people rely on mobile phones and others do not. It was the need to balance difficult factors that led the committee to adopt the approach that it did. I hope that the Parliament will support our report.

In a sense, we are here to reflect the views and concerns of our communities; I believe that our report does that. I believe that Scotland is leading the way in changing the structures for telecommunications developments. I commend the report to the Parliament.

I move,

That the Parliament notes the 3rd Report, 2000 of the Transport and the Environment Committee, Report on the Inquiry into Proposals to Introduce New Planning Procedures for Telecommunications Developments (SP Paper 90), and commends the recommendations to the Scottish Executive.

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I am delighted to open this debate on behalf of the Transport and the Environment Committee. I thank my colleagues for their hard work in producing a thought...
Linda Fabiani (Central Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I am pleased to speak in this debate. The first report of the Transport and the Environment Committee is the result of a great deal of investigation. Committ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Patricia Ferguson): Lab
I call Nick Johnston to open for the Conservatives. You have eight minutes, Mr Johnston.
Nick Johnston (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
I will try to keep to my time.I stand here this morning as a warning to every young researcher or putative candidate to Parliament—never lodge a members' bus...
Tavish Scott (Shetland) (LD): LD
I am grateful to Nick Johnston for clarifying the Conservative front-bench situation. For a terrible moment, those of us who enjoy transport and the environm...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
We move to the open part of the debate. Members will have four minutes.
Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab): Lab
I am particularly pleased to take part in this debate, as I have been rather vocal on the subject of telecommunications developments since about June last ye...
Bruce Crawford (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP): SNP
I would like to begin by congratulating the Transport and the Environment Committee on its work and on its report. I think that Andy Kerr did a good job of p...
Dr Sylvia Jackson (Stirling) (Lab): Lab
I welcome constituents who have travelled to the Parliament from Strathblane and who have been going through an ordeal with a mast in their area. I thank the...
Euan Robson (Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (LD): LD
I, too, welcome this report, with the important development that it proposes, and the Stewart report that was published today. There will be widespread agree...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab
As a member of the Transport and the Environment Committee, I thank my fellow committee members and the staff of the committee for the tremendous amount of w...
Dr Richard Simpson (Ochil) (Lab): Lab
I wonder if Des McNulty would agree that particular attention should be paid to masts near schools. Bruce Crawford shares my concern about the situation in K...
Des McNulty: Lab
I am sympathetic to that view and that some of the income coming to local authorities in site rental should be used in that way.Monitoring health risks is a ...
Mr Murray Tosh (South of Scotland) (Con): Con
I associate myself with all the positive remarks that have been made about the work of the staff on the Transport and the Environment Committee, and I congra...
Cathy Jamieson (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (Lab): Lab
I welcome the Stewart committee's report, which was published today, and I am pleased to see that it vindicates many of the recommendations in the Transport ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green
First, I apologise to the chamber because I must leave this debate early. I have a ceremony to attend at the University of Edinburgh in which I am playing a ...
Elaine Thomson (Aberdeen North) (Lab): Lab
I am pleased to be taking part in this debate. I congratulate the Transport and the Environment Committee on a thorough and well-considered report. Telecom m...
Ian Jenkins (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD): LD
Carlops, in my constituency, is one of the most famous of the mobile phone mast episodes, but I do not wish to go into the details of that today as we are in...
Dr Simpson: Lab
I appreciate what the member is going through. Perhaps I can offer some help. A mast was erected in my constituency. Fortunately, it was close to a B-listed ...
Ian Jenkins: LD
I really do not want to go into the details because there are aspects of our discussions that might involve trees, or whatever.It seems totally unacceptable ...
Helen Eadie (Dunfermline East) (Lab): Lab
I join other members in thanking sincerely the support team led by Lynn Tullis and all those who briefed us in the Transport and the Environment Committee an...
Janis Hughes (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab): Lab
As a member of the Transport and the Environment Committee, I would like to echo the gratitude of my colleagues to the staff who have helped us through the i...
David Mundell (South of Scotland) (Con): Con
I do not hold myself out to have the same expertise in these matters as my colleague Nick Johnston, but I was previously employed by British Telecommunicatio...
Mr Tosh: Con
In the light of what Mr Mundell has just said, will he comment on the recommendation in the Stewart report that no one should be encouraged to use mobile tel...
David Mundell: Con
Mr Tosh raises a very interesting point. If regulations are introduced, they should also apply to the use of car radios, as operating a car radio has been id...
Mr Kenny MacAskill (Lothians) (SNP): SNP
As others such as Des McNulty have done, I put on record my thanks to the members of staff of the Transport and the Environment Committee. In many instances,...
Nick Johnston: Con
Would Mr MacAskill be gracious enough—in the spirit of consensus that has evolved in the debate—to acknowledge that we are learning from experience, whereas ...
Mr MacAskill: SNP
I should be happy to acknowledge that the Conservatives are learning from the past, although I would not go beyond that.The most important issue is to decide...
The Minister for Transport and the Environment (Sarah Boyack): Lab
I listened with interest to the many excellent contributions throughout the debate. The debate has been marked by the consistently high quality of those cont...