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The Deputy Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning and Gaelic (Mr Alasdair Morrison): Lab Committee
12 Jun 2001
Subordinate Legislation
The committee has met Jim Logie, Lucy Hunter and Chris Graham previously. I thank the committee for inviting us to the meeting. I am glad to have the opportunity to begin the formal debate on the final stage of the Graduate Endowment (Scotland) Regulations 2001.The regulations...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
18 May 2005
Subordinate Legislation
I ask for clarification from the minister and his officials on paragraph 3 of the note from the Subordinate Legislation Committee—I do not know whether the officials have that note—which says:"The Executive has explained"—I assume that that means "explained to the Subordinate ...
The Deputy Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning and Gaelic (Mr Alasdair Morrison): Lab Committee
13 Feb 2001
Subordinate Legislation
I am happy to be here to discuss the draft order that will effect a change in the boundary to the Highlands and Islands enterprise network. I will go through briefly the background to, and the practical implications of, the decision.The enterprise networks have now been operat...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
13 Feb 2001
Subordinate Legislation
It will be a neutral financial situation as, in the next financial year, money will be transferred from Scottish Enterprise to Moray, Badenoch and Strathspey Enterprise. The sum will be determined by Scottish Enterprise in about a month's time. I understand that in the year 20...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
13 Feb 2001
Subordinate Legislation
As Mr MacAskill knows, the Highlands and Islands transport authority is still being actively discussed. The last time that I had formal discussions on the Highlands and Islands transport authority was at the Highlands and Islands convention, last October. The subject is up for...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
13 Feb 2001
Subordinate Legislation
I have no concluding remarks, other than to thank the committee.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
12 Jun 2001
Subordinate Legislation
I thought that we were involved in a formal debate and that I would wind up as per usual.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
12 Jun 2001
Subordinate Legislation
I understood that we would start with a formal debate.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
12 Jun 2001
Subordinate Legislation
I will respond to the point that the convener and Tavish Scott raised about the threshold. The threshold is set for the repayment of student loans rather than for the endowment. Payment of student loans is covered by UK legislation. We think that the threshold should be kept u...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
12 Jun 2001
Subordinate Legislation
It is always a pleasure.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
10 Sep 2003
Subordinate Legislation
On a point of order, convener. I appreciate everything that Mr Ewing is saying, but he is not a committee member and he has had ample time to put on the table his concerns about the procedural issues—
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
10 Sep 2003
Subordinate Legislation
The minister has answered the question that I was going to ask.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
10 Sep 2003
Subordinate Legislation
I want to deal first with the points about consultation and the industry's engagement with the issue over many years. Last Friday, along with my colleague Calum MacDonald and Duncan MacInnes of the Western Isles Fishermen's Association, I dredged—for want of a better word—thro...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
12 Nov 2003
Subordinate Legislation
The typographical error in the original amendment order is a bit unfortunate, but the people who are most affected by the measures—the fishermen in my constituency—certainly welcome SSI 2003/514. It dovetails nicely with all the efforts in other fisheries throughout the indust...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
10 Dec 2003
Subordinate Legislation
Karen Gillon is right. If the regulations were controversial we would already have heard about them from people who are informed about them and will be directly affected by them.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
17 Dec 2003
Subordinate Legislation
Agreed.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
17 Dec 2003
Subordinate Legislation
I was just listening to Mr McMillan's explanation. I must be missing something, because I thought that it was straightforward. I understand what he means and have no difficulty or delicacy with the explanation. We should just move on as quickly as we can to the next item.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
17 Dec 2003
Subordinate Legislation
That is the point that I am trying to make. We have just had a clear and straightforward explanation and I do not think that we should waste any more of the committee's time or of the officials' time.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
14 Jan 2004
Subordinate Legislation
The clerks might wish to speak to Western Isles Council, which has invested in an excellent mobile crushing machine.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
14 Jan 2004
Subordinate Legislation
They do not, basically.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
14 Jan 2004
Subordinate Legislation
If the minister has a response now, that would save a sheet of paper, would it not?
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
03 Mar 2004
Subordinate Legislation
I will not support Richard Lochhead's motion and I will outline why. I listened to Richard Lochhead, to Ted Brocklebank from the Tory party and to Rob Gibson, who all damned the deal that was secured at the end of last year. However, none of them mentioned the simple fact that...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
03 Mar 2004
Subordinate Legislation
On a point of clarification, convener. When would we vote?
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
12 May 2004
Subordinate Legislation
Joking aside, the point that Rob Gibson has highlighted is an important one. If the draftsmen cannot get the minister's name right, that hardly inspires confidence in other areas.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
23 Jun 2004
Subordinate Legislation
It is essential that, after five years, we liaise with the Welsh—sadly, not the Northern Irish—and the UK committees. The more such liaison we can do, the better. That should be part and parcel of our annual calendar, and there should be a formalised system to enable us to lia...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
23 Jun 2004
Subordinate Legislation
That is encouraging.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
23 Jun 2004
Subordinate Legislation
Eleanor Scott has plotted the way forward as far as this exercise is concerned. We cannot initiate any new work or engage in anything meaningful, but we should, over the next 10 days or so, draw on what members, the convener, and Tracey Hawe—with input from others—deem to be t...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
23 Jun 2004
Subordinate Legislation
He is allowed to be early.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
30 Jun 2004
Subordinate Legislation
First, I hope that Alex Fergusson recovers and is out of hospital soon.I agree with the general thrust of what David Mundell has said, and I appreciate what he and Alex Fergusson have done on the matter. I did indeed take part in the members' business debate on this issue, whi...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
29 Sep 2004
Subordinate Legislation
Minister, in your introductory remarks, you said that the aim of the regulations was to prevent further pollution of the environment. How do you and your officials quantify the extent of damage to wildlife, watercourses and so forth?My other question relates to the way in whic...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
29 Sep 2004
Subordinate Legislation
The past hour has been very instructive. I knew a few things about the issue before I came to the meeting at 9.30 am. One of those indisputable facts is that lead is poisonous both to waterfowl and to human beings. I also knew the importance of shooting to the rural and nation...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
05 Oct 2004
Subordinate Legislation
I welcome the instrument, which I am sure every reasonable individual will support. I have three short questions on how the industry and fishermen will benefit. First, are there safety benefits for the crews of fishing boats? Secondly, what are the benefits for stock managemen...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
09 Mar 2005
Subordinate Legislation
Yes. The Scottish Crofting Foundation does not limit its circulars to members of this committee. Quite rightly, it circulates its concerns about any instrument or proposal to ministers, too. Although I cannot speak for SEERAD, I think that it would be highly unlikely that the ...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
16 Mar 2005
Subordinate Legislation
There are no comments or questions on that instrument.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
16 Mar 2005
Subordinate Legislation
First, Richard Lochhead's final point about putting stuff on the agenda betrays a staggering ignorance of the way in which the presidency and the European Union work. There is a huge lead-in time and what will be on the agenda has been highlighted. Secondly, I remember that th...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
16 Mar 2005
Subordinate Legislation
Hear, hear.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
20 Apr 2005
Subordinate Legislation
Will Richard Lochhead list in detail the NFU concerns to which he referred?
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
20 Apr 2005
Subordinate Legislation
It is obvious that anyone who does not secure victory from an appeal system will be disappointed. I am looking for detail about the mechanisms and the reform that you were advancing on the NFU's behalf.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
18 May 2005
Subordinate Legislation
I thank the minister for his clarification.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
25 May 2005
Subordinate Legislation
I would like to clarify a number of points. First, I might have missed something—in which case I apologise for my own deficiencies—but I do not fully follow how the licensing regime helps the environment. Secondly, you have outlined clearly how your department has worked close...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
25 May 2005
Subordinate Legislation
I also asked about flexibility.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
25 May 2005
Subordinate Legislation
Can you say more about abstraction volume not being part of the whole mix?
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
25 May 2005
Subordinate Legislation
During today's detailed discussions, the minister has mentioned the two important words of flexibility and dialogue. On flexibility, there is some delicacy about the role of SEPA, which will both provide advice to ministers and monitor and enforce the regulations. However, on ...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
30 Nov 2005
Subordinate Legislation
I appreciate where Rob Gibson is coming from in terms of interest groups and stakeholders. As a member of the Scottish Crofting Foundation, I obviously want that organisation's voice to be heard clearly.One of the problems that the Executive faces is that 85 per cent of agricu...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
30 Nov 2005
Subordinate Legislation
I would like to see the responses next week.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
07 Dec 2005
Subordinate Legislation
The last section in Ross Finnie's letter is headed "Information on payments of agricultural subsidies".At least two members of the committee have suggested that such information should be available to the public. The second last sentence in the section is:"Our position is diff...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
07 Dec 2005
Subordinate Legislation
That reinforces my point. How can the Scottish Executive—a sub-state Government—take a different interpretation of UK legislation? The information that the Executive has given us does not answer the question why the Data Protection Act 1998 is being interpreted and applied in ...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
07 Dec 2005
Subordinate Legislation
The convener is correct; that is the responsible position to adopt.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
07 Dec 2005
Subordinate Legislation
Yes, very.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
07 Dec 2005
Subordinate Legislation
But the civil servants who are involved are all members of the same body.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
07 Dec 2005
Subordinate Legislation
One fundamental point should be highlighted. We are talking about different interpretations of UK legislation in different parts of the UK. It would be unthinkable for the Treasury and Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs to apply taxation laws differently in Scotland or, indeed,...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
07 Dec 2005
Subordinate Legislation
I am sorry, convener—I wanted to say that you have outlined the correct and responsible approach to take. We should not delay things. The payments have to be made, but we need clarification on Mr Finnie's letter.
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
07 Dec 2005
Subordinate Legislation
Hold me back.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
11 Jan 2006
Subordinate Legislation
The only thing that I want to say desperately is, let us move to agree the regulations.
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
15 Mar 2006
Subordinate Legislation
On Alex Fergusson's last point, I seek guidance from the convener or from the clerks about what the committee can do. Reasonable concerns have been articulated. How can we shed some light on how licences were granted to individual cockle fishers? What assurances can we get on ...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
15 Mar 2006
Subordinate Legislation
I will be guided by what Elaine Murray and Alex Fergusson say with regard to the order, but is there any way that we can ask those with the power to do so to take remedial action to tidy up the monitoring process?
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab Committee
17 May 2006
Subordinate Legislation
I whole-heartedly endorse the way in which the Executive went about dealing with targeting. I speak from the narrow perspective of my constituency, where the Executive got it absolutely right. Pulling together the panel to deal with all the geographical sensitivities was a ver...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
17 May 2006
Subordinate Legislation
On what basis is it assessed? What do you mean when you say that it is not meant to be a subsidy? What on earth does that mean?
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
17 May 2006
Subordinate Legislation
That is exactly the point that I am making. You can call it whatever you want: a subsidy or an encouragement—let us call it an encouragement. Why is it not possible, during the review of the geographic targeting, to assess whether the level of encouragement is sufficient to al...
Mr Morrison: Lab Committee
17 May 2006
Subordinate Legislation
That is classic civil service.
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Committee

Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee, 12 Jun 2001

12 Jun 2001 · S1 · Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee
Item of business
Subordinate Legislation
The committee has met Jim Logie, Lucy Hunter and Chris Graham previously. I thank the committee for inviting us to the meeting. I am glad to have the opportunity to begin the formal debate on the final stage of the Graduate Endowment (Scotland) Regulations 2001.The regulations are the first to be made under regulation 1 of the Education (Graduate Endowment and Student Support) (Scotland) Act 2001, which received royal assent on 3 May. Throughout the progress of the bill, we provided the committee with illustrative drafts of the regulations in order to enable members to familiarise themselves with the regulations' main provisions. The final set of regulations was laid on 15 May. We have also discussed the detail of the regulations with our advisory group, for whose input we are grateful.The regulations cover the arrangements for payment of the graduate endowment by liable graduates and they specify which graduates are liable to pay and when. The regulations also specify the amount of the graduate endowment that is to be paid and they make provision for loans to be made available to graduates to enable them to discharge their liability.I am conscious of the fact that the Subordinate Legislation Committee asked us to reconsider the balance of detail in the act and the regulations, which we did. The Subordinate Legislation Committee acknowledged the need for flexibility in the detail of the scheme to the extent that, if more detail was included in the act, it would need to be in the form of what is sometimes called a Henry VIII clause. In other words, the act would have to be open to amendment by secondary legislation. We do not believe that that would have been an improvement and it could have become more confusing over time.I shall deal with the regulations in order. Part I merely covers the citation and commencement details. The regulations' coming into force on 1 August 2001 will ensure that students who start degree courses in the forthcoming academic year will be liable to pay the graduate endowment. Part I also provides definitions for specific terms that are used elsewhere in the regulations. Part II explains which new students will be liable to pay the endowment. Under regulation 3(1) a liable graduate is a person who has undertaken a full-time degree course that commenced on or after 1 August 2001 at a Scottish college or university.The regulations recognise that there is an increasing variety of patterns of study. We want students to be as clear as possible at the start of their courses about whether they will be liable to pay the endowment. For that reason, regulation 3(1)(b) sets out the minimum periods of full-time degree study that will attract liability. In particular, we have taken account of the growth in recent years in the number of students who progress from higher national certificate to higher national diploma to degree-level education. Responses to our consultation and subsequent discussions with a variety of higher education representative bodies indicated that students should, as far as possible, be treated in the same way, whether they gain their degree through the conventional route or they begin their studies on a sub-degree HE course—for example, on what is sometimes referred to as the 2-plus-2 model.Regulation 3(1)(b) therefore provides that, for students whose study has been undertaken wholly on a degree course, the period of full-time study that will attract liability should be three years. For a student who moves from a sub-degree course"as part of a continuous programme of higher education",only two years on a full-time degree course are needed. We are aware that a number of students follow the 2-plus-1 model of study, taking one year after an HND to reach ordinary degree standard. We received forceful representations that that is a valuable way of encouraging non-traditional students to degree level study and that making those students liable for the endowment might risk preventing the further development of that approach. We agree that the development of the 2-plus-1 model is especially valuable in widening access; therefore, regulation 3(1)(b) will ensure that those students will not be liable to pay the endowment. We expect patterns of HE study to continue to evolve, and we think that it is right that the rules are contained in regulations, rather than in the act. In that way, liability for the endowment can continue to be adapted as necessary to reflect the changing nature of HE provision.Regulation 3(1)(c) deals with the residency rules for liability, which are almost identical to the residency rules for the receipt of bursary and other support from the Student Awards Agency for Scotland. The only difference between these rules and those that are applied by SAAS is that refugees are exempt from liability for the endowment, although a refugee might be entitled to support from SAAS for at least part of their course.Regulation 3(2) will ensure that students who are currently on HNC or HND courses, who later transfer to degree courses, will not be liable for the endowment—in other words, we accept that they should not be treated as new students. Such students' HNC or HND courses must commence in 2001 or later for the continuous programme of study to trigger liability.Regulations 3(3) and 3(4) will ensure that graduates whose pattern of study involves a change of institution or course, or that involves part-time study will be liable as long as they meet the requirement of the minimum period of full-time study.Regulation 4 deals with exemption. It provides that graduates will be exempt from liability if they fulfil the criteria that are applied to mature students at the start of their courses for the purpose of student support. The exemptions are contained in the regulations so that the definitions can be kept in line with those that are used elsewhere in the student support system, which are contained in regulations, or in rules that are made under regulations.Regulation 5 provides that certain courses are exempt either because of their level—such as HNC and HND courses—or, in the case of the professions that are allied to medicine, because of separate funding arrangements for students who are undertaking them. A review of the funding arrangements for students who are undertaking health-related courses—which are listed in schedule 3—is currently under way and the position of those students in relation to the graduate endowment will have to be considered as part of that review.Regulation 6 requires individuals, colleges and universities to provide information that is necessary for the assessment of whether students are liable for the graduate endowment.In part III, regulation 7 explains that the amount of graduate endowment that is payable by liable graduates will be set at the start of their degree course, whether or not the degree follows directly from a lower-level course. Under regulation 7(3), the amount of endowment for new entrants this year will be £2,000. We considered very carefully whether those provisions would be better contained in the 2001 act or the regulations, especially in the light of the comments of the Subordinate Legislation Committee. However, we did not feel that it was appropriate to embed a specific figure in the act. Such a step is always unusual and risks tying a scheme to an out-of-date figure. We felt that the amount of the endowment and the provisions for uprating were properly matters that should be included in regulations rather than in primary legislation. As regulation 7(4) makes clear, we are committed to linking increases in the endowment only to inflation.Regulation 8 deals with the detail of payment. Graduates will not be required to pay the endowment until 1 April of the year following their graduation. The "due date" in regulation 8(1) is defined in part I. If they choose to do so, liable students may discharge their liability by taking out an income-contingent student loan. The regulations provide that a loan must be made available to liable students for that purpose if they apply for one. The loan that is applied for must be for the full due amount of the graduate endowment. The regulations also give Scottish ministers discretion to accept an application that is made after the relevant date.I move,That the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee recommends that the draft Graduate Endowment (Scotland) Regulations 2001 be approved.

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The Convener: SNP
We move to item 2, which concerns the regulations for the Education (Graduate Endowment and Student Support) (Scotland) Act 2001. I shall first outline the p...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab
I will make a suggestion. We have discussed the issue at least three times and we have had formal debates on it. We have had a chance to air our views on the...
The Convener: SNP
What do other members feel?
Tavish Scott (Shetland) (LD): LD
Marilyn Livingstone makes a fair point. The subject has been well aired. If it were a question of providing and considering subtle amendments or specific poi...
The Convener: SNP
Okay. As there seems to be all-round agreement on that, we will proceed in that way. We are cutting down your work load, minister, although we might still gr...
The Deputy Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning and Gaelic (Mr Alasdair Morrison): Lab
The committee has met Jim Logie, Lucy Hunter and Chris Graham previously. I thank the committee for inviting us to the meeting. I am glad to have the opportu...
The Convener: SNP
At the end of our discussion, I shall put to the committee the question on whether the motion be agreed to.I want clarification on the threshold, which has b...
Mr Morrison: Lab
I thought that we were involved in a formal debate and that I would wind up as per usual.
The Convener: SNP
Yes, but I thought that we would take the opportunity to ask some questions as well.
Mr Morrison: Lab
I understood that we would start with a formal debate.
The Convener: SNP
Fine. However, I would like to make a point that you may want to comment on about the threshold. I understand that the threshold is set in separate regulatio...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab
I want to make a couple of points. I welcome the provisions in relation to HNC and HND courses, which will promote inclusion because many people, particularl...
The Convener: SNP
Are there any other comments?
Mr Kenny MacAskill (Lothians) (SNP): SNP
Do you mean questions or points for discussion?
The Convener: SNP
Technically, we are speaking to the motion at this point in the meeting. Before Mr MacAskill arrived, we agreed that instead of having a separate question an...
Mr MacAskill: SNP
The debate has been had elsewhere. I put on record that I will not support the motion or the regulations. A tuition fee is a tuition fee, whether it is paid ...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con
In the debate in the chamber, my party expressed opposition to the graduate endowment scheme for reasons that are similar to those that Mr MacAskill has just...
Tavish Scott: LD
As we have just finished a general election campaign, I will restrain myself from commenting on the SNP and Tory policies on this issue—we could be here all ...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab
Not only does The Herald regard the Executive's initiative as being a positive step, most people in higher education think so as well. The graduate endowment...
Mr Morrison: Lab
I will respond to the point that the convener and Tavish Scott raised about the threshold. The threshold is set for the repayment of student loans rather tha...
The Convener: SNP
Thank you, minister.The question is, that the motion on the regulations be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members:
No
The Convener: SNP
There will be a division.
ForButler, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab)Livingstone, Marilyn (Kirkcaldy) (Lab) Macintosh, Mr Kenneth (Eastwood) (Lab)McNulty, Des (Clydebank and Milngavie)...
The Convener: SNP
The result of the division is: For 6, Against 4, Abstentions 0.
Motion agreed to.
That the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee recommends that the draft Graduate Endowment (Scotland) Regulations 2001 be approved.
The Convener: SNP
For the benefit of those who are sitting in the public gallery, I say that the regulations go to the chamber for finalisation, but we do not know on which da...
Mr Morrison: Lab
It is always a pleasure.
The Convener: SNP
It was anticipated that the debate would take up more time. Our witnesses for item 3 are not due to arrive until 3 o'clock. We have two options: we can move ...