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Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
16 Sep 2009
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Some of those questions are about internal matters, which are for SNH to resolve. I am not in the business of giving specific directions about staff and where they might be located—that is not really my job. SNH is managed by an extremely efficient and competent set of people ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Jan 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
My comments will be more lengthy than they might have been. I will start by addressing amendment 151, which I have numerous concerns about.First, it does not seem to me to be entirely reasonable to expect to be able to impose such a wide-ranging duty that is entirely reliant o...
The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP Chamber
02 May 2017
Deer Management
Thank you, Presiding Officer—I think. In my previous incarnation in this job, between 2009 and 2011, I spent a lot of time in discussions about deer management with colleagues, environmental non-governmental organisations and land management organisations. There are still a f...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
16 Sep 2009
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There will initially be a deer panel in SNH and I would expect to go to the people in SNH who are identified as those who work most directly on deer. I already do that in relation to aspects of SNH's work; there are staff who are better known for certain aspects, and that will...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
20 Dec 2016
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2017-18
We have to listen carefully to what agencies tell us, and that applies not just to SNH but to any agency. At my level, decisions about priorities have to be closely informed by the work of officials and public bodies on budget scenario planning. In the civil service, there is ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
02 May 2017
Deer Management
I will do my best to use up the extra time that is available. The debate has been useful, as I hoped it would be—I mentioned that in my opening speech—in helping us to crystallise our thinking on the important issue of deer management. A lot of valuable points have been made ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
02 May 2017
Deer Management
I am going to be diplomatic. I would like to see SNH pushing section 8 before we make a decision about whether it is fit for purpose. If the power has not been tested, it is difficult for us to know that. I have used up quite a lot of the extra time already, so I will briefly...
The Minister for Environment (Roseanna Cunningham): SNP Committee
16 Sep 2009
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have some brief opening remarks, mainly in connection with the DCS-SNH merger. I am sure that all of us in Scotland recognise that deer are a fairly iconic part of our heritage. They play an important part in the rural economy and they help to shape Scotland's wild landscape...
Roseanna Cunningham (Perth) (SNP): SNP Chamber
01 Nov 2006
Wind Farms (Public Inquiries)
I thank all those members who have chosen to attend this evening's debate and, in particular, those members from other parties who have given the motion the cross-party support that it requires to be debated in the chamber.I could have contented myself with a motion that raise...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
02 Mar 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 28 provides a vision for the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996. As admirable as that vision might be, it nevertheless neglects the other issues that the 1996 act covers. The amendment has the benefit of not engaging European convention on human rights issues, but that is beca...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Dec 2017
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2018-19
The answer to the last part of the question is no, it will not, because I will be absolutely clear with SNH that those are fundamental activities that have to be continued. Committee members need to remember that SNH has a relatively new chair and a new chief executive. They ...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
04 Feb 2004
Nature Conservation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 62 seeks to introduce an entirely new section into the bill, so it is an addition rather than an amendment. It would require SNH to carry out a monitoring programme on the series of SSSIs and to report the results openly. Although the amendment states that the report...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
16 Sep 2009
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That will ultimately be a matter for SNH, which will make the decision on the basis of the outcome of its discussions with various stakeholders. I do not want to tell SNH what it must or must not do; SNH must make the decision. You suggest a sensible way forward, although it m...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
01 Jul 2010
Crofting Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am afraid that, despite the revisions that Elaine Murray has made since stage 2, I still cannot support amendments 76 and 77. They are unnecessary. If a crofter can demonstrate that they are doing something or refraining from doing something in a planned and managed manner f...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Jan 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The code is being developed in discussion with a wide range of people on the basis that there should be voluntary development of it by agreement.If we start imposing things from the outside we are in danger of losing a lot of the good will that is building up around the develo...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Jan 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
In considering amendment 157 we need to be aware of how the planning system operates. At present, planning authorities are required by law to consult SNH on applications where development may affect an SSSI. In responding, SNH may object and may recommend actions in order to s...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
20 Dec 2016
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2017-18
I have to take advice from SNH, the agency whose job it is to advise me on the issue. Although there are other agencies that have a role to play, it is SNH’s job to keep me informed across the issue. That will include its regular reporting on any adjustments that might be need...
The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP Chamber
09 Mar 2017
Biodiversity
Given that the natural environment is worth more than £20 billion per annum to our economy and supports more than 60,000 direct jobs, I welcome the opportunity to lead this brief parliamentary debate on something that we too often take for granted. We should celebrate our biod...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
04 Feb 2004
Nature Conservation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The discussion has been interesting in that we have heard the minister refer to information that many people might not realise is available to them. That says it all, because the minister said that SNH is making the information public "to a greater or lesser extent". The publi...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
20 Dec 2016
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2017-18
I am. I have regular meetings with the chair and the chief executive, but they are not going to drill down to the level of decision making that you are talking about. There is an expectation that SNH, along with all the other agencies, should look carefully at how it manages i...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
09 Mar 2017
Biodiversity
I thank all members for their contributions. As anticipated, there has been a huge breadth of discussion and I am only sorry that I will not be able to refer to every single issue that has been raised. Maurice Golden—and, indeed, Pauline McNeill and Mark Ruskell—referred to u...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Mar 2019
Subordinate Legislation
SNH will manage the cost. It has worked closely with landowners on the costs and they will be managed within SNH’s budget. I continue to remind members that SNH’s initial consultation was done in 1998, so SNH has been planning for and working on this for a long time.
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
16 Sep 2009
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There is a financial question, but it is not huge. We are not talking about saving vast amounts of money. To be honest, saving money is not necessarily the only driver of our proposals.Originally, it might have looked as though the DCS and SNH were working in quite different w...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
16 Sep 2009
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I could just as easily turn the question round and ask, given the marginality, why continue with it? In effect, SNH is set at one remove to provide independent, scientific advice. We have that independent body—which, of course, is paid for through the public purse—to look inde...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Jan 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
As the committee is aware, the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996 sets out that damage or serious damage is the threshold at which action can be taken. Amendments 108, 129 and 130 would change “serious damage” to “damage” as the threshold for action. That is intended to prevent damage t...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
28 Jun 2016
Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform
SNH is the lead agency for that. I know that we have not gone as far or as fast as we anticipated we might have by now, but we have experienced the same tensions that sometimes arise in other situations in which we are balancing a lot of different rights and responsibilities. ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
20 Dec 2016
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2017-18
The first thing that I need to remind everybody is that SNH is not solely responsible for delivering that step change. The assessment was of whether the sector is delivering the change, and that involves the deer management groups through deer management plans and any support ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
20 Dec 2016
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2017-18
It is also the case that SNH and SEPA must prioritise the research that they conduct. There are prioritisation hierarchies at every level. I would expect SNH and SEPA to look carefully at what they do and how they do it and to decide which research must be prioritised. If data...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
24 May 2017
National Parks
Colin Smyth raises one new national park. However, the fact is that the report that has triggered the debate talks about seven. Our two current national parks have a combined annual budget of about £12 million that comes out of the portfolio budget. We simply do not have tens ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
27 Jun 2017
Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (General Update)
We are progressing work on the strategic environmental assessment and habitats regulation assessment. When that work is done, we will move on to a statutory instrument that will add beavers to schedule 2 to the Conservation (Natural Habitats etc) Regulations 1994. We hope and ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Dec 2017
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2018-19
I would hope so. If part of the issue is SNH not really having a strong profile and being well understood among members of the public, better engagement with the public will have really good spin-off for a number of those things, because people will have a better and clearer u...
Roseanna Cunningham (Perth) (SNP): SNP Committee
04 Feb 2004
Nature Conservation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Section 12(1) states:"This section applies to the exercise by a public body or office-holder of any function on, or so far as affecting, any land which is a site of special scientific interest."That is the current position in the bill.The following two sections—sections 13 and...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
04 Mar 2009
Flood Risk Management (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
This extensive group of amendments reflects the long and detailed conversations that have taken place on natural flood management, which has been a key topic of discussion for the committee. There are a lot of points for me to address, so I will have to spend a little time on ...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
16 Sep 2009
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You will not be surprised to hear that I will not make funding commitments or statements at this point. I have said that it is not in SNH's interests to have deer interests become invisible following the merger—that is certainly not the Government's intention. We are looking f...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
16 Sep 2009
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I can absolutely reassure the committee that I will be monitoring the situation over the next year or two. I have regular meetings with SNH's management and the issue of deer interests will become a regular part of those meetings. Deer interests will form an important part of ...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Committee
16 Sep 2009
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Some of that will come from feedback from stakeholders. I know that there is a great deal of anxiety, as there always is when any change is proposed. However, part of the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. I am confident that SNH will be able to ensure that the stakeh...
Roseanna Cunningham (Perth) (SNP): SNP Chamber
07 Jan 2004
Nature Conservation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I take the opportunity to express my thanks to all those who have assisted the Environment and Rural Development Committee in the production of its report. I should also say that the Scottish National Party has no hesitation in supporting the motion, which endorses the general...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Chamber
01 Nov 2006
Wind Farms (Public Inquiries)
That is a good sign. I hope that from now on SNH will extend the same approach to wind farm inquiries.The situation with wind farm applications in the Ochils should act as a warning to those of us with constituency interests in the proposed upgrade of the Beauly to Denny power...
Roseanna Cunningham: SNP Chamber
20 May 2009
Bees
I am sure that officials are well aware of the recommendation. Robin Harper might be thinking about Colonsay, which I will talk about shortly.Money is available through the SRDP and SNH for a variety of different projects, which will help our understanding and make a differenc...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
12 Jan 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will speak to Government amendments 62 to 76 and John Scott’s amendments 92 to 95.Amendments 62, 64, 70 to 73 and 75 respond directly to the committee’s recommendation that the codes that the bill establishes should be subject to parliamentary scrutiny. The committee recomme...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Jan 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will come on to that, but first I want to deal with the remainder of the amendments in the group.Amendments 109 to 111 and 152 set out in a more prescriptive manner what the code of practice should address. The code may well cover all those points but, as committee members a...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Jan 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendments 107 and 126 are minor technical amendments that amend the wording of changes that the bill makes to the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996. Amendment 107 corrects the provision for additional issues that SNH will have a duty to take into account. They are public safety and th...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Jan 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
As Liam McArthur has identified, his amendments 125 and 128 and Government amendment 127 all seek to achieve the same thing. Amendment 127 would update schedule 2 to the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996, which sets out the detailed application of control schemes made under section 8 o...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Jan 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
This group of amendments seek to make changes to the biodiversity duty on public bodies and the duty on Scottish ministers to produce and report on the Scottish biodiversity strategy. They need to be judged, therefore, against whether they will, on balance, contribute to impro...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
02 Dec 2010
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There is broad agreement on the general principles of the bill, for which I am extremely grateful. I thank the members who have contributed to the debate, as well as the members of the Rural Affairs and Environment Committee, who have been involved in the process of getting th...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
02 Mar 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I share Jamie McGrigor’s concern about the increase in road accidents involving deer, particularly as deer come down from the hills and are more in and about urban areas. We have touched on the issue in the bill, which requires SNH to take account of public safety in exercisin...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
14 Sep 2016
Portfolio Question Time · Deer Control
I will ensure that SNH gives the member a detailed response to his question. Counting deer is a constant issue, whether we are talking about urban lowland or rural Scotland—deer numbers are a concern for everyone. It is important to assess the numbers and to keep the assessmen...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
20 Dec 2016
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2017-18
It does not necessarily always have to be detrimental, unless one assumes that ever-increasing numbers of staff will always result in ever-improved outcomes—I am not sure that that reads across easily either. One of the things that happen when there are budget challenges is th...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
21 Feb 2017
Draft Climate Change Plan (RPP3)
I appreciate that it is disappointing that the draft plan does not contain hard policies and proposals on blue carbon, but we have run into difficulty when trying to ensure that we have the right science. Both the Government and SNH have been working to assess the extent an...
The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP Chamber
18 May 2017
Snaring
It has been a short but important debate. I understand very well why so many members here and so many members of the public are opposed to snaring. It has always been a difficult and emotive issue. Colin Smyth referred to harrowing descriptions of animals caught in snares, ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
18 May 2017
Snaring
I have indicated that the review was already looking at animal welfare. The technical assessment group will go on to consider—as will SNH—a number of aspects of the issue, and I will ensure that that happens. As a number of members have said, Parliament explicitly considered...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
31 May 2017
Portfolio Question Time · Illegal Snares and Traps
As I said in a members’ business debate a couple of weeks ago, we all accept that all forms of predator control have their drawbacks. None of the methods of control is particularly attractive, but in large parts of Scotland they are, regrettably, necessary. The recent review ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
27 Jun 2017
Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (General Update)
The timing of publication of the draft climate change plan meant that it came out before the work that was being done on blue carbon. In February, Scottish Natural Heritage published a report on the issue, and Marine Scotland is currently developing a research programme in con...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Dec 2017
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2018-19
Absolutely. If I could identify an easy source of further money, I would very much want to do so. If, during the committee’s deliberations, you can identify within my broad portfolio budget a place from which to shift money into SNH, I would be interested to hear it. I am not,...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Dec 2017
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2018-19
The issue is not the changes on their own, but what they mean with regard to engagement and SNH’s becoming much more outward facing. After all, it will be judged according to those indicators by the very people whom it is trying to engage further. My answer, therefore, is yes—...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
19 Dec 2017
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2018-19
I think that I indicated in my response to the question about SNH that if I lived in a world where I could simply increase investment across the board, I would, of course, do so. There are probably many areas where that would be an ideal scenario, but we are not in that scenar...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
21 Feb 2018
Portfolio Question Time · Environmental Protection (Scottish Borders)
I, and I hope the member, would look directly to Scottish Natural Heritage, as the body that is responsible for the protection of sites. SNH has a great responsibility in that regard and does exceptionally well. If the member wants to raise issues to do with particular sites i...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Chamber
21 Jun 2018
General Question Time · Scottish Wildlife (Mammals)
First, I have to say that species loss and biodiversity is not really a matter for joking and laughing. I am just a little concerned that members are not taking the matter seriously. I thank Ivan McKee for his question about water voles. I have seen a recent report—in fact, I...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
15 Jan 2019
Budget Scrutiny 2019-20
Yes, the funding is definitely included in the budget. It will be made available but only for projects on the ground—it will be operated on that basis. My officials are currently drawing up the details with SNH. Obviously, it is a key part of what SNH does. The commitment is f...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP Committee
15 Jan 2019
Budget Scrutiny 2019-20
I am conscious that there is quite a debate about that issue. SNH staff will meet my officials in a week or two to discuss it. The member will be aware that there is a conversation to be had about what the national ecological network will comprise. Will it be a network of exis...
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Rural Affairs and Environment Committee, 16 Sep 2009

16 Sep 2009 · S3 · Rural Affairs and Environment Committee
Item of business
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Cunningham, Roseanna SNP Perth Watch on SPTV
Some of those questions are about internal matters, which are for SNH to resolve. I am not in the business of giving specific directions about staff and where they might be located—that is not really my job. SNH is managed by an extremely efficient and competent set of people who are better placed than I am to make some of those decisions.We want to ensure that there is no loss of expertise. It would not be in SNH's best interest for us to come back in two years' time and say that there was a problem. SNH will not want to produce a set-up that will contribute to a loss of expertise. A lot of work has been done over the past year to ensure that that does not happen. There has been a lot of to-ing and fro-ing. When I was at the SNH office during the Easter recess, I met DCS officials, so that work was already in progress. Both bodies have been working closely with stakeholders to identify future ways of working that will allow their joint expertise to be fully used.In addition, an appointments round for the SNH board is just about to start. Up to four new members are sought. In recruiting to the board of SNH, we recognise the importance of wildlife management. Given that that includes deer, we have an opportunity to ensure input of expertise in that regard.It would not benefit us to deliver a perceived dilution of expertise when we are trying to strengthen expertise through a two-way process. The work that is done on the DCS side of things will be contributed to enormously by the pool of expertise that exists in SNH. I go back to what I said about ecosystems. We are moving into an era when we will take a whole ecosystem approach. It will no longer be appropriate to isolate one species and deal with it on its own. We will have to look at the impact across all species and ecosystems.

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The Convener: SNP
The committee has been designated to scrutinise sections of the Public Services Reform (Scotland) Bill that fall within its remit, specifically sections 1 an...
Professor John Milne (Deer Commission for Scotland):
We work in partnership with the deer management sector. We attend all deer management group meetings, provide advice when it is requested, and have liaison m...
Ian Jardine (Scottish Natural Heritage):
For some time, the public bodies concerned—primarily the Deer Commission for Scotland, SNH and the Forestry Commission Scotland—have been co-operating closel...
The Convener: SNP
What has been Robert Balfour's experience of working with the two bodies?
Robert Balfour (Association of Deer Management Groups):
As Professor Milne said, we have had a good close working relationship with the Deer Commission for Scotland. That does not mean that we do not disagree at t...
The Convener: SNP
What do you mean when you say that your relationship with SNH has been fraught? What is the context of that?
Robert Balfour:
In rural land management, it is well known that Scottish Natural Heritage's relationship with farmers and landowners is difficult. I am a farmer and landowne...
The Convener: SNP
Mr Orr-Ewing, what has been your experience?
Duncan Orr-Ewing (Scottish Environment LINK):
It is worth noting that we are dealing in Scotland with a much more diversified land-ownership structure these days. There are communities that own land and ...
Alasdair Morgan (South of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I will follow up Mr Balfour's remarks about SNH. The submission from the Association of Deer Management Groups also says that"SNH's record of delivery is not...
Robert Balfour:
I cannot give you a specific example off the top of my head.
Alasdair Morgan: SNP
I did not ask you to. You would need to give me lots of specific examples, because that is a fairly general statement about the organisation's record, as is ...
Robert Balfour:
After the meeting, I will send you details of evidence that supports what I said. I cannot give it to you off the top of my head because I do not have the in...
Alasdair Morgan: SNP
Would it be reasonable for somebody who comes to the matter cold to say that the reason for the statement might be that the relationship between the Associat...
Robert Balfour:
I refute the assertion that we have too cosy a relationship with the Deer Commission. We have had disagreements with it, but that does not mean to say that w...
Professor Milne:
I refute the idea that we have a cosy relationship: that is completely wrong. It would have been the truth 15 years ago when the Red Deer Commission existed,...
Ian Jardine:
It would be silly to pretend that SNH's relationship with all landowners and land managers has always been sweetness and light. I take Robert Balfour's point...
Liam McArthur (Orkney) (LD): LD
I wonder whether Mr Balfour agrees with the suggestion in SNH's submission that the relationship between the two organisations was "firm". I think that that ...
Ian Jardine:
We highlighted it as a risk because we think that it is something that we need to keep an eye on, not because we think that it undermines the argument for th...
Liam McArthur: LD
Do you see the functions being handled in a different way in terms of personnel?
Ian Jardine:
Initially, I think that mainly the same personnel will be involved; the staff who currently perform those functions in the Deer Commission will continue to d...
Liam McArthur: LD
That suggests that fewer resources would be needed because of efficiencies that could be made.
Ian Jardine:
Overall, we expect that the merger will create efficiencies.
Professor Milne:
One of the risks that Ian Jardine was alluding to—and one of the DCS's concerns—is that the role of the DCS board is quite different from that of the SNH boa...
Peter Peacock (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab
I have a question for Ian Jardine, and I want to pick up on the point that Liam McArthur made. I should make it clear that I was an SNH board member a number...
Ian Jardine:
I am happy to say what we are planning for. Of course, we hope to hear very soon exactly what our budget for next year will be. At the moment, we are scenari...
Peter Peacock: Lab
SNH's budget is around £63 million or £64 million. You may receive around £1.7 million, but you are considering scenarios in which there may be reductions of...
Ian Jardine:
There is no policy view on that in SNH. We will ultimately be guided by whatever we are told the priorities are in grant-in-aid letters. That will determine ...
John Scott (Ayr) (Con): Con
I want to ask Ian Jardine about the loss of expertise with the loss of the Deer Commission for Scotland board, and about uncertainties about the future role ...
Ian Jardine:
I shall start and John Milne might add something from his own perspective.I think that the steps that we have taken will minimise the risk that John Scott ha...