Holyrood, made browsable

Hansard

Every contribution to the Official Report — chamber and committee — searchable in one place. Pulled from data.parliament.scot, indexed for full-text search, linked through to every MSP.

129
Current MSPs
415
MSPs ever elected
13
Parties on record
2,354,908
Hansard contributions
1999–2026
Coverage span
Official Report

Search Hansard contributions

Showing 60 of 2,354,908 contributions. Latest 30 days: 0. Coverage: 12 May 1999 — 25 Mar 2026.
Pauline McNeill Lab Chamber
16 Sep 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I will speak to amendment 109 and also to amendments 110 to 113, 116 to 121, 125 and 126, which are all consequential amendments. I will not go through them all. The amendments relate to the creation of a sexual offences court. We all acknowledge the growth in the volume of s...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
26 Mar 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Fundamentally, I agree with the Government that there needs to be a significant shift in the way that we deal with sexual offences cases. Those cases are predominantly what the High Court is dealing with now, and the situation is alarming, with the rate of sexual offences agai...
Pauline McNeill Lab Chamber
16 Sep 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
There has not been a change of heart. I am arguing that there can still be specialism and trauma-informed practice. I will go on to talk about and welcome some of the fundamental changes that the Government has made, with the Lord Advocate contributing to those. There is no co...
Pauline McNeill Lab Chamber
16 Sep 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 114 would ensure that cases dealing with the crime of murder may not be heard in the sexual offences court. The Law Society said: “Amendment 114 in the name of Ms McNeill maintains the jurisdiction of the High Court of Justiciary for charges of murder. We consider t...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
26 Mar 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I find Sharon Dowey’s contribution very helpful, because it mirrors my feelings about something that sounds like quite dramatic and necessary change but which involves lots of issues that remain unresolved. I maintain that a lot of the specialist judicial management can be don...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
02 Apr 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
It is hard to know how to respond when there has not been a full debate on my amendments. First, I made an error when I spoke to amendment 157. I do not fully understand why my amendments on the separation of the High Court and the sheriff court have been separated in the grou...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Committee
02 Apr 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
A number of these amendments seek to amend elements of the sexual offences court, including what it will be able to do and what crimes it will be able to deal with. On amendment 157, my intention and how things have come out might be two entirely different things, as is often...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
26 Mar 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
My understanding, from speaking to Rape Crisis Scotland, is that its big concern—as you know, it has many concerns—is delay in the courts. If you believe that delays will come down as a result of this change, I understand and sympathise with that view. However, you would have ...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
02 Apr 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
You may remember that, in relation to a previous set of my amendments, I said that the same approach could be achieved by having a sexual offences division of the High Court and a sexual offences division of the sheriff court, rather than creating a new court. Rape, for exampl...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
02 Apr 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I welcome the amendments that the Government has lodged in this group and whole-heartedly support them. I will address my amendment 270. Rape is among the most serious of crimes and if we are potentially making a fundamental change to who hears rape cases in our criminal just...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
14 Sep 2006
Criminal Proceedings etc (Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The bill proposes reform of the summary justice system, which is the part of the justice system that the vast majority of people who become involved in the system go through. Unlike the Bonomy High Court reforms, which we debated in the Parliament—it does not seem long ago tha...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
06 Dec 2007
Summary Justice Reform
It feels as if there is a fortnightly afternoon session with the Cabinet Secretary for Justice—he must like our company. Although the debate is not well attended, it is important and I welcome the chance to discuss summary justice.It was as far back as Jim Wallace's time as ju...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
17 Sep 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill
This is the most difficult bill that I have dealt with in my time on the Criminal Justice Committee. It deals, in its entirety, with wholesale reform of the criminal justice system, overturning years of established systems that fit together, so it is not simple to pick apart. ...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
10 Jan 2024
Management of Sexual Offences Cases
It is clear that there is a need for change—I am absolutely clear about that. I want to give some context to my question. You have made the case for a specialist court, but I am interested in where it would sit in the hierarchy—excuse my terminology, but that is the way that I...
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Feb 2001
Glasgow Sheriff Court (Visit)
Thanks, Margo. That is a fair reflection of what I saw on both occasions when I attended the court, and describes the pressure that the court is under.There are 21 courts at Glasgow sheriff court, which is about the busiest court in Europe. Each court has its own programme and...
Pauline McNeill: Lab Chamber
14 Jun 2001
International Criminal Court (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As we said in our stage 1 report, we felt that we were under a bit of pressure to complete the report. However, we understood the reasons for the time scale. We want to be one of the first 60 countries to ratify the Rome statute.It would not be possible to take more evidence t...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
29 Jan 2004
Supreme Court
I think that DCAf—the Department for Constitutional Affairs—is the most interesting acronym that I have heard for a while. For ages, every time I heard lawyers talk about it, I wondered what they were talking about. It meant something else to me.We have been asked to consider ...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
04 Dec 2024
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
My primary concern—as you might have read—about the setting up of a specialist court is that I do not believe that the Government can fix the problem of rights of audience, which it accepts is a problem. I put that specific question to the Government at stage 1, with regard to...
Pauline McNeill Lab Chamber
16 Sep 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I think that I have demonstrated, in the Parliament, that I share the view that the cabinet secretary expressed in her last comments about how the system has failed women and girls and how much work we have still to do. What we are debating now, however, is whether the Govern...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
10 Jan 2024
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, Lord Advocate. Thank you for being so vocal on the importance of doing something in Parliament about the scandalous increase in the number of sexual offences cases. I am interested in the mechanics of the specialist court. You and the Lord Justice Clerk have m...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
17 Jan 2024
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I was going to ask about that issue, so I will carry on where Rona Mackay left off. Emma Bryson spoke about the difference between theory and practice and asked what the practice will be. What will the law be? What is it that we are legislating for? That is what I am thinking...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
08 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank Katy Clark and Brian Whittle for their amendments. This group of amendments is important because we are being asked to agree to far-reaching time limits for all cases, and that will have a significant impact on victims and accused persons. There were significant delay...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
01 Apr 2025
Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I agree with Liam Kerr’s remarks about the volume of work that the Criminal Justice Committee has undertaken, and I hope that we have done justice to the bill. The Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill does two distinct things. ...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
15 Dec 2021
Prosecution of Violence against Women and Girls
Cabinet secretary, we had a really interesting and good exchange with David Fraser last week on what a specialist court is. Are you satisfied that, in legislating to create a specialist court—as I understand you have to do—it would not look like we were downgrading sexual offe...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
29 Mar 2023
Court Maintenance Backlog
I thank Liam Kerr for bringing this important subject to the chamber for a members’ business debate. If he does not mind, I will focus almost exclusively on court delays, because Labour members have been very critical of the current situation. I took an interest in court delay...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
31 Jan 2024
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My next set of questions is about the specialist court. Your written evidence has been really helpful. If we get this right, it could be transformational. You will be aware that the provisions in the bill do not mirror Lady Dorrian’s recommendations, in a number of ways. The...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
24 Jan 2024
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You described a hierarchy of courts, in which you do not see the sexual offences court as provided for in the bill. Section 46 of the bill says that, “on cause shown”, a case can be transferred from the sexual offences court to the High Court or the sheriff court. Does that sp...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
02 Apr 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will rehearse the same argument as I rehearsed last week. I do believe that there should be a specialist element but, as I have argued from the beginning, it can be done in a different way. The bill will create a sexual offences court for all solemn sexual offence cases, whi...
Pauline McNeill Lab Chamber
07 Oct 2025
Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 61 says: “Where an image of physical evidence is to be treated in criminal proceedings as if it were the physical evidence itself, either party in the proceedings may request that the physical item be produced in court.” It also says: “Where a request is made und...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
21 Nov 2001
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank committee members and the committee clerks who worked hard on the report. I also thank the Parliamentary Bureau, which allowed extra time for the committee to consider further issues.The bill is a bold move on the part of the Executive to shape provisions that could ha...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
14 Jun 2001
International Criminal Court (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is apt that we debate the principles of the international criminal court on the day after the momentous occasion of President Mbeki's addressing the Parliament and reminding us of our international obligations. We should all be enthusiastic about such a historic proposal fo...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
17 Jan 2024
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thanks for that. This is my final question. The proposal to have a specialist court was mentioned earlier. Lady Dorrian recommended that such a court be part of the High Court, but that is not what is in the bill. I am not too clear in my mind what that court would be. It woul...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
26 Mar 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Yes, it was a powerful point—it was made by Lady Dorrian. The question that we have to ask ourselves is this: although we all want dramatic change—I want that too—are we satisfied that, just because there is a report that says that change will happen in a particular way, the p...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
10 Feb 2005
Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service
You are so generous, Presiding Officer. I can hardly believe that the Lord Advocate has now served in post for five years—that shows how quickly time passes.Unlike the Opposition parties, I think that the debate serves an important purpose. Part of our job is to scrutinise wha...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
25 Mar 2004
Summary Justice
The long-awaited report by Sheriff Principal McInnes is a weighty document, but it is a brilliant piece of work. It is hard to keep up with all the recommendations. I admit that I did not get to the end of the report, but I can see clearly that there is an awful lot for debate...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
07 Feb 2024
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I preface my remarks by saying that I think that the proposal for a specialist sexual offences court is the most significant proposal in the bill. However, I have to say that the Government is putting itself in danger of losing the consensus on that, which is what my line of q...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
17 Jan 2024
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That has muddied the waters—for me, anyway. Murder cases should be in the High Court, so I do not understand. Obviously, they can be prosecuted in either court, but once we lose that provision from law, we will never go back to it—that is for sure. I have a question for Kat...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
10 Jan 2024
Management of Sexual Offences Cases
My final question relates to that. There have been many discussions in the Parliament about how we tackle the crime of rape, for which there seems to be a low conviction rate. It looks as though the specialist sexual offences court would not have the same status or the same ri...
The Convener: Lab Committee
12 Nov 2003
High Court of Justiciary
That is a fair point in the sense that we found the visit interesting because we will consider the Criminal Procedure (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill, but I am sure that the Justice 2 Committee also found the visit interesting. It was clear that the people at the High Court are sp...
Pauline McNeill: Lab Committee
28 Nov 2000
Glasgow Courts (Visit)
It was useful and interesting to see what is, I think, the country's biggest sheriff court. It was all new to me; I had not seen such a court in operation before. I arrived a bit late, so I missed one of the courts—the intermediate diet court, I think—but I caught up with it l...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
11 Nov 1999
Subordinate Legislation
This is an important and historic moment for the Scottish Parliament, although the number of members in the chamber might not suggest that. Today we will make a decision on the Maximum Number of Judges (Scotland) Order 1999, acting on the Lord President's request that there sh...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
20 Apr 2006
Civil Justice Reform
I have written to Cathy Jamieson, as I did to her predecessor, Jim Wallace, to ask for more attention to be paid to reforming of our civil justice system. Like other members, I whole-heartedly welcome Cathy Jamieson's announcement that she will lay out a plan to reform the sys...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
08 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
There has been a lot of discussion in the committee about conducting court business by electronic means. By necessity, that approach allowed us to conduct court proceedings during the pandemic, and I acknowledge that the Government has said that it wants to monitor its effecti...
Pauline McNeill Lab Chamber
28 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 76 seeks to ensure that, if an extension is requested to already-extended time limits and the application is granted, the judge or the court must state “the reason for the application, and ... whether the application was made by the prosecution or the defence.” Ame...
The Convener: Lab Committee
10 May 2006
Criminal Proceedings etc (Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As a board member of the Glasgow routes out of prostitution project, I have for some time been asking ministers whether DTTO provision can be extended. By and large, fiscals in Glasgow refer prostitutes to the sheriff court, presumably because DTTOs are available in the sherif...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 May 2023
Trauma-informed Justice for Victims and Witnesses
I speak in support of the amendment in my name. The timetabling of the debate was pretty fast on the back of the publication of the report on Friday. Would the cabinet secretary take my point that that is not ideal, given the importance of the issue? Further, the Criminal Jus...
The Convener: Lab Committee
15 Nov 2006
Criminal Proceedings etc (Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank the minister. I welcome his amendments 138 and 140 and the offer to discuss the points further, because they need further discussion. I am not sure that we are achieving a great deal by completely changing the system from one in which we do not allow information on acc...
The Convener: Lab Committee
24 Mar 2004
Criminal Procedure (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 191, in my name, is grouped with amendment 171. If amendment 191 is agreed to, I will not be able to call amendment 171.Amendment 191 relates to section 67 notices, which allow the Crown by leave of the court to include evidence after the time limit has passed if the...
The Convener: Lab Committee
02 Feb 2005
Subordinate Legislation
No, the distinction is that without the pilot, the High Court would be duty bound to consider all options when considering whether to remand a person to custody. On application by the accused, the High Court is duty bound to consider a tag. That is the provision that the High ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
16 Nov 2005
Family Law (Scotland) Bill: <br />Stage 2
If members do not mind, I will speak next. I have worked with Sylvia Jackson on the amendments and I have voiced my view on the subject on several occasions. I am grateful to her for the work that she has done and for the amendments that she has lodged. When the minister respo...
Pauline McNeill: Lab Chamber
15 Dec 2005
Family Law (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 3
Going to court is an indication that there is conflict over or disagreement about contact with children. The parental agreement should provide an important starting point for separating parents. I originally wanted the parental agreement in the bill, but I have accepted minist...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
16 Mar 2006
European Commission Green Papers (Divorce and Succession and Wills)
I am grateful to the Parliamentary Bureau for allowing the Justice 1 Committee this slot to discuss our report on what we regard as very important European issues.I have received some glazed looks in the past few days when I tried to explain what the debate was to be about—it ...
Pauline McNeill: Lab Chamber
25 Sep 2008
Judiciary and Courts (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 1 is, in essence, about ensuring that sheriffs who work part time in our courts have representation on the Scottish Court Service board. I have been asked to raise the issue at stage 3 and I am happy to do so.Part-time sheriffs have a client base in private practice ...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
21 Jun 2023
Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The focus of the bill is to limit custody to those who pose a risk to public safety or to when it is necessary to prevent significant risk of prejudice. There are clearly benefits to reducing the damaging effects of short-term detention. Section 1 requires the court to give cr...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
26 Mar 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Yes. The High Court could have a division that specialises in sexual offences. Of course, probably two thirds of judges’ cases are sexual offences cases. The sheriff court could also create such a division. The sheriff court is a large court as it is. My concern with the appr...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
02 Apr 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
You can achieve the same thing. A High Court judge—Lord Bracadale, for example—who sits in the High Court could sit in a newly created sexual offences court and preside over a sexual offence case or a rape case. They would have to be trauma informed to do so, but they would no...
The Convener: Lab Committee
27 Apr 2005
Protection of Children and Prevention of Sexual Offences (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
That is not what I asked about—I am talking about the idea behind the bill and what will be done when it comes into force. In the scenario that Bruce McFee described, in which there has been a conviction for a sexual offence, the point of having prevention of sexual offences o...
Pauline McNeill: Lab Chamber
06 Mar 2002
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I wondered how long Mr Gallie was going to get to speak. I will not take up as much time: my points are quite simple.I am suspicious and concerned that Phil Gallie has lodged amendment 10 at stage 3. I agree with some, but not all, of what he says, but it is wrong in principle...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab Chamber
06 Mar 2008
Rape and Sexual Offences
Labour welcomes the long-awaited report from the Scottish Law Commission on the reform of rape and sexual offences law. The report is good and we thank the commission for its hard work on a difficult job. I believe that the commissioner, Gerry Maher, is in the gallery and I we...
Pauline McNeill Lab Committee
02 Apr 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I agree. On the question of hierarchy versus practicalities, it is possible to get both. As I have said, the specialist nature of a sexual offences court can be achieved in a different way. However, fundamentally, I think that we should hang on to some kind of hierarchy—we hav...
← Back to list
Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 16 September 2025

16 Sep 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

I will speak to amendment 109 and also to amendments 110 to 113, 116 to 121, 125 and 126, which are all consequential amendments. I will not go through them all.

The amendments relate to the creation of a sexual offences court. We all acknowledge the growth in the volume of sexual offence cases. The last time that we were notified, 69 per cent of cases in the High Court involved sexual offences. The Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service has said to the Criminal Justice Committee that the only realistic opportunity is to create a stand-alone court, but it is not the only option. My amendments deal with what I believe would be a more sensible option.

I do not intend to move amendments 110 and 111, because they just set out different ways of doing the same thing as amendment 109.

Amendment 109, along with most of the amendments that run from 112 to 160, would allow the High Court to make the sexual offences court a division within the High Court. There would also be a sexual offences division within the sheriff court. I understand that we would have the same number of courts, because the High Court uses nine locations and there are 38 sheriff courts. The High Court is a peripatetic court, so it could extend the number of locations that it uses if it so wished—it has previously done so.

As with the proposed sexual offences court, there would be judges and counsel dedicated to dealing with sexual offences. It is important to note that the figures show that High Court judges already deal with a high number of rape and sexual offences cases, so they are specialists in what they do to some degree. However, rape cases will no longer be heard in the High Court as a result of the Government’s proposals but will be heard in the new sexual offences court. I am sure that the Government will say that the new court will have the same sentencing powers, but let us be clear: it is not the High Court. The highest court will still be the High Court of Justiciary, which currently operates. The new court could be trauma informed, but I do not believe that we need legislation for a trauma-informed court—it could be done now, although the bill talks of “trauma-informed practice” throughout.

Having a stand-alone court in the bill has created many problems that the Government has had to go back and fix. One of the substantial issues that it had to fix was on rights of audience, which is not an insignificant matter and proved to be quite a serious omission from the bill as drafted. The Government did not consider who would represent whom—for example, senior advocates who represent people in the High Court would not necessarily be in the sexual offences court. However, the Government has now corrected that, and we have to hope that it has got that right and that there are no gaps. My proposal would not require to fix that at all. I could have been persuaded—

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings for the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill. In dealing with the amendments, members shou...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 1 is on the victims charter. Amendment 4, in the name of Jamie Greene, is grouped with amendments 5, 9 and 28.
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (LD) LD
I take the opportunity to quickly thank, at the start of today’s debate, the Parliament’s clerks, who have assisted a number of back benchers and Opposition ...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
The broad thrust of Jamie Greene’s amendments is reasonable and I am inclined to support them, although I note that an awful lot of what is in the proposed v...
Jamie Greene LD
I thank Mr Kerr for his comments and for his—as always—constructive and helpful feedback, which he has shared throughout our negotiations on the bill. The f...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs (Angela Constance) SNP
I am conscious that we have more than 160 amendments to get through today, so I will leave my thanks to everyone who has contributed to the bill until later ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Jamie Greene to wind up and to press or withdraw amendment 4.
Jamie Greene LD
I have no further comments to make. I press amendment 4. Amendment 4 agreed to. Amendment 5 moved—Jamie Greene—and agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 2 is entitled “Victims and Witnesses Commissioner: functions and definition of victim”. Amendment 59, in the name of the cabinet secretary, is grouped ...
Angela Constance SNP
I will deal first with amendments 59, 60 and 61, which provide a revised and broader definition of “victim” for the purposes of the work of the victims and w...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 3 comprises minor and technical amendments. Amendment 6, in the name of the cabinet secretary, is grouped with amendments 7, 10 to 16, 18, 20, 22, 23, ...
Angela Constance SNP
The amendments in group 3 will change the term “criminal justice agency” or “criminal justice agencies” to “criminal justice body” or “criminal justice bodie...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Just to confirm, cabinet secretary, do you wish to add any further comments to wind up?
Angela Constance SNP
I have nothing to add. Amendment 6 agreed to. Amendment 7 moved—Angela Constance—and agreed to. Section 8—Restriction on exercise of functions Amendment ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 4 is entitled “Victims and Witnesses Commissioner: power to gather information”. Amendment 17, in the name of the cabinet secretary, is grouped with am...
Angela Constance SNP
I begin with amendments 17 and 19, which are in my name. Provisions in the bill relate to the information-gathering powers of the victims and witnesses commi...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
My amendment 96 would give the victims commissioner the power to request information from local authorities and social housing providers for the purpose of d...
Angela Constance SNP
I stress to members that these amendments are new to stage 3. Unfortunately, I did not hear Ms Dowey make any reference to consultation with either social ho...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Angela Constance SNP
In a moment. As I said in my opening statement, in exercising their duties under the act, the victims and witnesses commissioner can, of course, engage with...
Liam Kerr Con
On the point that the cabinet secretary made about the amendments being new to stage 3, can we take it that any amendments that are newly introduced at stage...
Angela Constance SNP
That will depend on the consultation and engagement that has taken place. With respect to Ms Dowey’s amendments, I repeat that I did not hear her make any r...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Does any member object to a single question being put on amendments 18 to 21?
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I object in relation to amendment 21.
The Presiding Officer NPA
That being the case, we will put questions on each amendment individually. Amendments 18 to 20 agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 21 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. As this is the first division of the stage, I will suspend for about five minutes to allow members to access the digital voting sy...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We will proceed with the division on amendment 21. The vote is closed.
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app did not connect. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Ms Gilruth. We will ensure that that is recorded.