Committee
Transport and the Environment Committee, 27 Nov 2002
27 Nov 2002 · S1 · Transport and the Environment Committee
Item of business
Water Environment and Water Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 36 is important because it would be meaningless to talk about a river basin district that covered almost the whole of Scotland and it would be difficult to get proper involvement in planning for a river basin district for the whole of Scotland. If the bill is to be implemented with the active participation that is a feature of it, we must break down any river basin district that covers virtually the whole of Scotland. Amendment 36A, in the name of Maureen Macmillan, would improve my amendment by replacing the phrase "geographical area" with the word "catchments", which is more sensible. If we are considering the water environment, it is obvious and sensible to act in terms of river catchment areas.The purpose of amendment 128 in my name is to say that a sub-basin plan should contain the same information and requirements as a river basin management plan. It is crucial that the bill include a requirement that we take sub-basin districts and planning seriously, because those will be the front line where the real work of implementing the water framework directive will be. It is important that we do it properly. The other amendment in my name is amendment 132, which is a consequential amendment.I move amendment 36.
In the same item of business
Section 3—The water environment: definitions
The Convener:
Lab
I welcome the Deputy Minister for Environment and Rural Development back to the meeting after our brief suspension. I also welcome various officials from the...
Members indicated agreement.
The Convener:
Lab
Amendment 115 is grouped with amendment 116.
John Scott:
Con
It is essential that, in coastal zone management, different types of areas and bodies of water are clearly defined and that information on them is readily av...
Allan Wilson:
Lab
I suppose that amendment 115 begs the legitimate question of why the bill will impose a duty on ministers to deposit maps that set out the boundaries of tran...
The Convener:
Lab
I invite John Scott to respond to the debate and to indicate whether he wishes to press amendment 115.
John Scott:
Con
As you want me to be brief, I will say merely that I want to press amendment 115.
The Convener:
Lab
The question is, that amendment 115 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members:
No.
The Convener:
Lab
There will be a division.
ForCrawford, Bruce (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP)McLeod, Fiona (West of Scotland) (SNP)Scott, John (Ayr) (Con)AgainstMacmillan, Maureen (Highlands and Islands...
The Convener:
Lab
The result of the division is: For 3, Against 4, Abstentions 1.
Amendment 115 disagreed to.
Amendment 116 moved—John Scott.
The Convener:
Lab
The question is, that amendment 116 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members:
No.
The Convener:
Lab
There will be a division
ForMcLeod, Fiona (West of Scotland) (SNP)Scott, John (Ayr) (Con)AgainstMacKay, Angus (Edinburgh South) (Lab)Macmillan, Maureen (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)M...
The Convener:
Lab
The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 2.
Amendment 116 disagreed to.
Section 3, as amended, agreed to.
Section 4—Establishment of river basin districts
Amendment 34 moved—Nora Radcliffe.
The Convener:
Lab
The question is, that amendment 34 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members:
No.
The Convener:
Lab
There will be a division
ForCrawford, Bruce (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP)Harper, Robin (Lothians) (Green)McLeod, Fiona (West of Scotland) (SNP)Macmillan, Maureen (Highlands and Islan...
The Convener:
Lab
The result of the division is: For 6, Against 3, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 34 agreed to.