Chamber
Plenary, 27 Sep 2006
27 Sep 2006 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Crofting Reform etc Bill: Stage 1
Crofting has been an essential factor in ensuring the economic and social vitality of communities in the crofting counties for many years. Aberdeenshire was nearly one of the crofting counties. In 1886, the question whether it would opt in or out was finely balanced. There is certainly local interest in the bill's provisions for expanding crofting tenure outwith the current crofting counties. I am particularly interested in that aspect of the bill.
For many years, crofting has successfully kept people living and working in some of the most remote and rural areas of Scotland. However, today's world is very different from the world of 1886. Various legislative changes relating to crofting tenure have had an effect, although some effects have been less welcome than others. Wide consensus exists on the need to update the crofting law and the management of crofting. The fact that there is no consensus on some of the Executive's proposals does not reflect on the effort or consideration that has gone into them, but is rather the result of the complexity of the issues that are involved and the recognition by all sides of the importance of getting things right.
As the minister said at the start of the debate, the Environment and Rural Development Committee has spent a great deal of time trying to tease out the issues. The process has pulled out concerns that were not articulated during the earlier consultation, which demonstrates the value of the way in which the Parliament and its committees go about their work.
Addressing the questions of how to deal with the market value of crofts and how to reconcile the imperatives of buyers and sellers has involved an iterative process. The proper occupier proposals that were made late in the process were intended to bring about reconciliation but, as many members have said, they have not won the support that would be needed to progress them.
There was widespread support and an enthusiastic welcome for many parts of the bill, and I look forward to progressing those through stage 2 to deliver several key aspects of the original bill. Those include interposed leases; powers for the Crofters Commission to challenge neglect; the creation of new crofts without the inhibition of the right to buy; the extension of crofting tenure; and an accurate and comprehensive register of crofts. The last of those, in particular, will be an essential tool in moving forward some of the crofting agenda. The fact that there is no accurate and comprehensive register of crofts at the moment is attributable to several different factors. It does not help to try to apportion blame for why there has not been such a register so far; what is important is that we find a way of achieving that.
The Executive has taken on board the committee's concerns about the aspects of the bill that have not won support. Along with others, I welcome the fact that those aspects will be examined further before being taken forward. I am sure that, with more work, it will be possible to define the objectives of crofting and to find suitable ways in which to achieve regulation of the market.
For many years, crofting has successfully kept people living and working in some of the most remote and rural areas of Scotland. However, today's world is very different from the world of 1886. Various legislative changes relating to crofting tenure have had an effect, although some effects have been less welcome than others. Wide consensus exists on the need to update the crofting law and the management of crofting. The fact that there is no consensus on some of the Executive's proposals does not reflect on the effort or consideration that has gone into them, but is rather the result of the complexity of the issues that are involved and the recognition by all sides of the importance of getting things right.
As the minister said at the start of the debate, the Environment and Rural Development Committee has spent a great deal of time trying to tease out the issues. The process has pulled out concerns that were not articulated during the earlier consultation, which demonstrates the value of the way in which the Parliament and its committees go about their work.
Addressing the questions of how to deal with the market value of crofts and how to reconcile the imperatives of buyers and sellers has involved an iterative process. The proper occupier proposals that were made late in the process were intended to bring about reconciliation but, as many members have said, they have not won the support that would be needed to progress them.
There was widespread support and an enthusiastic welcome for many parts of the bill, and I look forward to progressing those through stage 2 to deliver several key aspects of the original bill. Those include interposed leases; powers for the Crofters Commission to challenge neglect; the creation of new crofts without the inhibition of the right to buy; the extension of crofting tenure; and an accurate and comprehensive register of crofts. The last of those, in particular, will be an essential tool in moving forward some of the crofting agenda. The fact that there is no accurate and comprehensive register of crofts at the moment is attributable to several different factors. It does not help to try to apportion blame for why there has not been such a register so far; what is important is that we find a way of achieving that.
The Executive has taken on board the committee's concerns about the aspects of the bill that have not won support. Along with others, I welcome the fact that those aspects will be examined further before being taken forward. I am sure that, with more work, it will be possible to define the objectives of crofting and to find suitable ways in which to achieve regulation of the market.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid):
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S2M-4710, in the name of Ross Finnie, on the general principles of the Crofting Reform etc Bill.
The Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Ross Finnie):
LD
Crofting is a uniquely Scottish way of life and approach to small-scale agriculture. For the first time, it is to be subject to legislation that has been dev...
John Swinburne (Central Scotland) (SSCUP):
SSCUP
The Scottish Parliament information centre's excellent briefing on crofting states:"In recognition of its importance in sustaining remote rural communities, ...
Ross Finnie:
LD
I would be happy to receive a letter from the member on that point. It is certainly not within the scope of the bill, although it may be a matter of great an...
John Farquhar Munro (Ross, Skye and Inverness West) (LD):
LD
The minister said that a committee of inquiry is to be established to consider the complexities of the crofting situation. Will it look into absenteeism and ...
Ross Finnie:
LD
I am grateful to John Farquhar Munro for that intervention. I am well aware of his particular interest in crofting in general and in the misuse and neglect o...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness East, Nairn and Lochaber) (SNP):
SNP
I apologise for not being here for the start of the minister's speech. When will the committee of inquiry's remit be finalised? When will the committee be es...
Ross Finnie:
LD
That is the sort of multiple question for which one gets points for each part.We have given quite a lot of thought to the committee of inquiry. We have to id...
Rob Gibson (Highlands and Islands) (SNP):
SNP
Few of the original proposals in the Crofting Reform etc Bill are left unscathed. It is a botched bill. It has been savaged by the determined committee that ...
Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab):
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Rob Gibson:
SNP
Not at the moment.Crofting reform was a low priority for the Lib-Lab coalition, which has taken so long to go so tortuously short a distance. Listen to croft...
Ross Finnie:
LD
Rob Gibson has referred several times to market value. If he intends to extinguish that, is it SNP policy to remove the right to buy? The right to buy was th...
Rob Gibson:
SNP
The situation that the minister discusses is complicated. The right of people to have a house that they can decroft and use for themselves has been accepted ...
Mr Ted Brocklebank (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con):
Con
When the commission that was chaired by Francis, Lord Napier of Ettrick, went to interview crofters about their grievances on 8 May 1883, it was no coinciden...
Ross Finnie:
LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Mr Brocklebank:
Con
I will do so in a moment. The minister may want to come back on what I am about to say.As Rob Gibson pointed out, Ross Finnie declared on BBC Radio Scotland ...
Ross Finnie:
LD
I am grateful for the member's concerns about market values, which we all share. However, for the sake of members, will he point to any section of the bill t...
Mr Brocklebank:
Con
Things will become apparent as I proceed.The bill has failed to dampen the speculation and free market in land—that is the major problem that we are faced wi...
Elaine Smith:
Lab
Is Ted Brocklebank suggesting that, in abandoning the bill, the Executive should abandon provisions—which it intends to leave in the bill—to create a registe...
Mr Brocklebank:
Con
Of course, there are aspects of the bill that we believe should, eventually, be part of a well-thought-out bill that has a real vision for the future of crof...
Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab):
Lab
On behalf of the Labour Party, I thank the clerking team of the Environment and Rural Development Committee for assisting the committee in reaching this stag...
The Presiding Officer:
NPA
I call Sarah Boyack, who will speak as convener of the Environment and Rural Development Committee.
Sarah Boyack (Edinburgh Central) (Lab):
Lab
I thank committee members, witnesses, committee clerks and all those who were involved in the preparation of our committee report. In particular, I thank the...
John Farquhar Munro (Ross, Skye and Inverness West) (LD):
LD
I congratulate the convener of the Environment and Rural Development Committee, who seems to have an amazing grasp of crofting legislation. I thank her for h...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP):
SNP
As we have heard, the bill attracted adverse comment and deep and stinging criticisms from the Environment and Rural Development Committee, which is to be co...
Elaine Smith:
Lab
Does the member accept that the committee's deliberations uncovered many of the issues that he has outlined? Instead of continually denigrating the Scottish ...
Jim Mather:
SNP
Given the delays and the patchwork of good with the bad, I must focus on the fundamental flaws in what is an extremely unhelpful bill, which has caused great...
Mr Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD):
LD
We have heard John Farquhar Munro—who I think is one of only two members of Parliament who are crofters—say that some parts of the bill are welcome, so why o...
Jim Mather:
SNP
If the member had listened to Rob Gibson, he would have got that message loud and clear. It is important that progress is made and that we get the improvemen...
Eleanor Scott (Highlands and Islands) (Green):
Green
We have heard about a fine example of a committee doing its job of scrutinising a bill and reaching a conclusion on it. I add my thanks to everyone who gave ...