Chamber
Plenary, 09 Nov 2006
09 Nov 2006 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Violence Against Women
I refer members to my entry in the register of members' interests.
The motion is partly a tribute to the work done by local women's groups over the years to provide support for abused women and to raise awareness of this grievous cancer in society. Male violence against women is still ingrained in our culture. Women are still presenting at casualty, in surgeries, to the police and to Women's Aid and other support organisations because of male violence.
It has been more than 25 years since Ross-Shire Women's Aid was set up. I want to celebrate that band of stroppy women and to reiterate the reasons why women felt the need to set up women's aid groups. Women knew that male violence against them was widespread, that it was serious, that it was often fatal and that it was largely ignored by society. They knew that from their own experience, from that of their friends or from that of women whom they came across in the course of their work. Yet the police, the health service, local authorities and the churches would not admit that domestic violence was of any real significance. They persisted in the attitude that it happened only among the rougher elements of society, that it was caused by drink—which is wrong—that women asked for it anyway and that, if it was so bad, why did the women not just leave.
Can you imagine the challenge that a newly set up women's aid group faced in a small Highland town 25 years ago in trying to persuade the council and a horrified public that there was a need for a local women's refuge? Can you imagine the disbelief, the denial, the hostility and the accusations that we were besmirching the good name of the Highlands? "It doesn't happen here," people thought. Think of the insinuations, the names that we were called, the persistence with which the volunteers had to argue their case and the work that lay ahead of them once the refuge was finally set up.
Volunteers and paid women have picked up women from police stations in the middle of the night. They have taken women to casualty in the early hours of the morning. They have met them off trains, buses and boats. They have picked them up in their nightclothes from phone boxes and the roadside. They have sat and talked with them all night, either face to face or over the phone. They have wiped the blood from their faces. They have sat with them in the waiting rooms of courts and general practitioners. They have even been the birth partners to some women when their babies were born. We have also supported the women's children, although we did not know then the profound effect that domestic violence has on children. Volunteers have given presentations in schools. They have helped to train the police, social workers and health workers. They have been on local radio. They have given interviews to local papers. They have lobbied and they have challenged. We supported women because we saw that there was a need for that. We realised that if women did not do that for their sister women, nobody else would.
We have come a long way in the Highlands in 25 years, mostly in the past eight, thanks to the Executive and the Parliament. We now have purpose-built refuges, children's workers and outreach workers in the most distant parts of the west Highlands, and we have follow-on services for women who have left the refuge. Not all women wish to come into refuges nowadays. Often, they prefer to be supported in the community, and we provide that support.
We now have full commitment from the Highland Council, the police and NHS Highland. Only this week, I was talking with a long-time women's aid volunteer who works for NHS Highland about the training schemes that are now being put in place by the health board so that practitioners can recognise and deal with cases of domestic abuse. She has long campaigned for such schemes and it has given her immense satisfaction that they are now going ahead.
It is significant that an increasing number of men recognise that male violence against women must be dealt with at its source. What causes men to be violent towards women? Why do they feel that they have to exert power through rape or beatings? As has been said many times, it is important that men who are not violent challenge those who are, even down to the man who makes the passing remark in the pub that his wife could do with a good slap. Men's silence can be deafening. They must speak up and more are doing so. Only the other week in the Highlands, more men than ever before attended the Highland well-being alliance's annual conference on domestic violence. That was a good sign. As Amnesty International says, violence against women will not stop unless men are part of the campaign to stop it.
A relatively small number of women in Scotland made their voices heard, yet they effected great changes. Labour members did that particularly through the labour and trade union movement, but others had different routes. Those women and their successors, whether as volunteers or paid workers, still support women and children. The need is still out there and we continue to campaign for provision, prevention and protection.
I am proud of what we have done, but I recognise that some male attitudes towards women can be progressed only through societal change. That is not an easy task, but we must persevere with it. Until then, all power to volunteers and workers past and present and especially to those who were there at the beginning in Ross-shire—Rhona, Ann, Eileen, Marilyn, Karen and Kathleen—and the many others since.
The motion is partly a tribute to the work done by local women's groups over the years to provide support for abused women and to raise awareness of this grievous cancer in society. Male violence against women is still ingrained in our culture. Women are still presenting at casualty, in surgeries, to the police and to Women's Aid and other support organisations because of male violence.
It has been more than 25 years since Ross-Shire Women's Aid was set up. I want to celebrate that band of stroppy women and to reiterate the reasons why women felt the need to set up women's aid groups. Women knew that male violence against them was widespread, that it was serious, that it was often fatal and that it was largely ignored by society. They knew that from their own experience, from that of their friends or from that of women whom they came across in the course of their work. Yet the police, the health service, local authorities and the churches would not admit that domestic violence was of any real significance. They persisted in the attitude that it happened only among the rougher elements of society, that it was caused by drink—which is wrong—that women asked for it anyway and that, if it was so bad, why did the women not just leave.
Can you imagine the challenge that a newly set up women's aid group faced in a small Highland town 25 years ago in trying to persuade the council and a horrified public that there was a need for a local women's refuge? Can you imagine the disbelief, the denial, the hostility and the accusations that we were besmirching the good name of the Highlands? "It doesn't happen here," people thought. Think of the insinuations, the names that we were called, the persistence with which the volunteers had to argue their case and the work that lay ahead of them once the refuge was finally set up.
Volunteers and paid women have picked up women from police stations in the middle of the night. They have taken women to casualty in the early hours of the morning. They have met them off trains, buses and boats. They have picked them up in their nightclothes from phone boxes and the roadside. They have sat and talked with them all night, either face to face or over the phone. They have wiped the blood from their faces. They have sat with them in the waiting rooms of courts and general practitioners. They have even been the birth partners to some women when their babies were born. We have also supported the women's children, although we did not know then the profound effect that domestic violence has on children. Volunteers have given presentations in schools. They have helped to train the police, social workers and health workers. They have been on local radio. They have given interviews to local papers. They have lobbied and they have challenged. We supported women because we saw that there was a need for that. We realised that if women did not do that for their sister women, nobody else would.
We have come a long way in the Highlands in 25 years, mostly in the past eight, thanks to the Executive and the Parliament. We now have purpose-built refuges, children's workers and outreach workers in the most distant parts of the west Highlands, and we have follow-on services for women who have left the refuge. Not all women wish to come into refuges nowadays. Often, they prefer to be supported in the community, and we provide that support.
We now have full commitment from the Highland Council, the police and NHS Highland. Only this week, I was talking with a long-time women's aid volunteer who works for NHS Highland about the training schemes that are now being put in place by the health board so that practitioners can recognise and deal with cases of domestic abuse. She has long campaigned for such schemes and it has given her immense satisfaction that they are now going ahead.
It is significant that an increasing number of men recognise that male violence against women must be dealt with at its source. What causes men to be violent towards women? Why do they feel that they have to exert power through rape or beatings? As has been said many times, it is important that men who are not violent challenge those who are, even down to the man who makes the passing remark in the pub that his wife could do with a good slap. Men's silence can be deafening. They must speak up and more are doing so. Only the other week in the Highlands, more men than ever before attended the Highland well-being alliance's annual conference on domestic violence. That was a good sign. As Amnesty International says, violence against women will not stop unless men are part of the campaign to stop it.
A relatively small number of women in Scotland made their voices heard, yet they effected great changes. Labour members did that particularly through the labour and trade union movement, but others had different routes. Those women and their successors, whether as volunteers or paid workers, still support women and children. The need is still out there and we continue to campaign for provision, prevention and protection.
I am proud of what we have done, but I recognise that some male attitudes towards women can be progressed only through societal change. That is not an easy task, but we must persevere with it. Until then, all power to volunteers and workers past and present and especially to those who were there at the beginning in Ross-shire—Rhona, Ann, Eileen, Marilyn, Karen and Kathleen—and the many others since.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid):
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S2M-5109, in the name of Malcolm Chisholm, on violence against women.
The Minister for Communities (Malcolm Chisholm):
Lab
This is the 16th year of the United Nations campaign of activism to end violence against women, and I am proud that the Parliament is again discussing male v...
Christine Grahame (South of Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
The minister mentions 600 updated spaces since 2000. I want to get my figures right. From the website of Scottish Women's Aid, I have a figure of 234 refuge ...
Malcolm Chisholm:
Lab
I am giving the figure of 600 for new, adapted, refurbished or upgraded spaces since 2000. I do not know what the figure of 234 refers to.We are pleased to c...
Christine Grahame (South of Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
I note the terms of the Government's motion and I note the minister's words. We on this side of the chamber will be supporting the motion. The minister did n...
Carolyn Leckie (Central Scotland) (SSP):
SSP
I welcome the debate and I will support the Executive motion—that is a rare occurrence. I congratulate the Minister for Communities and the Deputy Minister f...
Dave Petrie (Highlands and Islands) (Con):
Con
We will be supporting the motion. The fact that many women in Scotland are still facing the horror of domestic abuse is an incredible statistic with Dickensi...
Nora Radcliffe (Gordon) (LD):
LD
In 1999, the United Nations adopted November 25 as the international day for the elimination of violence against women. That violence includes domestic viole...
Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab):
Lab
I welcome the motion, which comes in the run-up to the 16 days of activism against gender violence. The 16 days run from 25 November, which is the internatio...
John Swinburne (Central Scotland) (SSCUP):
SSCUP
Does the member agree that we insult men by accusing them of such abuse? The people who commit such crimes—they are crimes—against women are less than men an...
Cathy Peattie:
Lab
I want John Swinburne and other men in the Parliament to say that to the men concerned. The perpetrators are men—in general, it is men who commit such violen...
Shiona Baird (North East Scotland) (Green):
Green
As the motion highlights, we have a great history of women's rights activism in Scotland. This week, I visited the Eighteen and Under centre in Dundee, which...
Maureen Macmillan (Highlands and Islands) (Lab):
Lab
I refer members to my entry in the register of members' interests. The motion is partly a tribute to the work done by local women's groups over the years to ...
Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP):
SNP
The experience of this man—I am grateful for the opportunity to participate in the debate—as an MSP is probably, alas, not dissimilar to that of others. I th...
Ms Rosemary Byrne (South of Scotland) (Sol):
Sol
I, too, welcome the debate, and congratulate Scottish Women's Aid, and rape crisis centres and other voluntary sector projects on the excellent work that the...
Cathie Craigie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (Lab):
Lab
"She dressed the wrong way." "She walked in the wrong place." "She said the wrong thing." "She was asking for it." Sadly, in certain sections of Scottish soc...
Carolyn Leckie:
SSP
We have had a good discussion this afternoon rather than a debate. One of the best things about it has been that we have not had the ritual of Mike Rumbles t...
Nora Radcliffe:
LD
This has been a passionate, articulate and well-informed debate. I want to continue by quoting from the inaugural professorial lecture that was given in 2001...
Cathy Peattie:
Lab
Does the member think that it is more appropriate to use the phrase "domestic violence" than it is to use the word "abuse"? Although it is abuse, we must rec...
Nora Radcliffe:
LD
I take Cathy Peattie's point, but I refer her to what other members have said about the mental undermining of people. Cathy Peattie's point is well made but ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con):
Con
As Carolyn Leckie said, this has been a good debate and it has been largely consensual. Perhaps uncharacteristically, I will not seek to break that consensus...
Christine Grahame:
SNP
I am hoping that Mr Aitken will get to the point of addressing our amendment, which I surmise from his comments the Conservatives will not support. I ask him...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Trish Godman):
Lab
You should be finishing, Mr Aitken.
Christine Grahame:
SNP
I intervened as he looked as if he was running out of steam.
Bill Aitken:
Con
Clearly, Glasgow has more than its fair share of this type of problem. I fully concede the point. However, from reports that I have received, I understand th...
Ms Sandra White (Glasgow) (SNP):
SNP
I concur with everything the Executive has set out in its motion. I am pleased that the debate is being conducted under the heading "Violence Against Women" ...
The Deputy Minister for Communities (Johann Lamont):
Lab
I welcome the opportunity to sum up this very important debate, which reminds us of one of the critical issues that we discuss and have to address.I will rep...
Christine Grahame:
SNP
I thank the minister for that clarification. I was not sure how secure the figures were; they were the best that I could obtain. I am obliged to her for the ...
Johann Lamont:
Lab
I can get back to Christine Grahame on the detail of how the statistics are managed. I agree that there is a challenge for all those who are working to suppo...
John Swinburne:
SSCUP
Does the minister agree that it is surprising that the issue of alcohol has not been raised during today's debate as, often, the pathetic excuses for men who...