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Maureen Macmillan (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab Chamber
11 Jan 2007
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The present system of automatic and unconditional early release of prisoners is rightly discredited; the system alarms victims and communities because they cannot understand why a person who has been sentenced to four years can be released after only two and can be kept under ...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
18 Feb 2003
Alternatives to Custody
The witnesses talked about maintaining useful contacts with people who are on programmes in support of non-custodial sentences. In conversation, the convener and I wondered how many sheriffs visit prisons to find out what sorts of programmes are available during custodial sent...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Presumably resources will be put into programmes for the supervision of prisoners following custodial sentences. Could those same programmes be used as alternatives to custody, or are you talking about something different?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
28 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We have heard evidence that the provisions in the bill could increase the prison population by 1,100 or more—some witnesses have suggested that the number could be a lot bigger. You said earlier that the bill deals with sentences as handed down rather than different kinds of s...
Maureen Macmillan (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab Chamber
12 Nov 2003
Alternatives to Custody
I have been busy scoring out part of my speech, as I thought that I would not have time to get it all in, but perhaps I will be able to. Like Michael Matheson, I am one of the remnants of the Justice 1 Committee from the first session of the Parliament. Like him, I was very in...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
30 Apr 2002
Prison Estates Review
Yes, it is. Thank you for that information.In evidence to the committee, the Prison Officers Association Scotland stressed the importance of career development and criticised Wackenhut Corrections, which runs Kilmarnock prison. It was said that Wackenhut Corrections"describes ...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 May 2002
Prison Estates Review
The consortium's excellent written submission states that you foresee that "Prison numbers could be substantially reduced (by well over 2,000 places)".Will you give us some idea of how you calculated that figure? The prison governors to whom we have talked have said that such ...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Jan 2003
Alternatives to Custody Inquiry
If a community disposal does not work, there is a likelihood that the young person will be given a custodial sentence without another community disposal being tried.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
27 Jan 2003
Alternatives to Custody Inquiry
We have been told that if one community service order does not work, offenders are sent to jail. Often it is not suggested that a series of community service orders could be issued, rather than just one. What happens in Highland? Do the sheriffs use community service orders mo...
Maureen Macmillan (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab Committee
14 Jun 2005
Prisoner Escort and Court Custody Services Contract
Could we get some input from the police, rather than just from the SPS? Having spoken to policemen in the region that I represent, I have found that it has made a big difference to them to have Reliance Custodial Services carrying out escort services. Perhaps we could formalis...
Maureen Macmillan (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to follow up on the previous questions about release after 75 per cent of a sentence has been served. I understand the reason for that provision—you want offenders to be integrated into the community by the time that their sentences come to an end. However, I note that ...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you think that a voluntary arrangement with criminal justice social work is sufficient?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
However, it is possible for an offender to spend more or less 100 per cent of their sentence in prison, if they are recalled from the community because of their bad behaviour.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Will it be able to do that while the sentence is being served?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
How does the court get involved?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am trying to work out what will happen at the end of the sentence if almost 100 per cent of it has been served. How will we put in place an arrangement that provides for extended supervision of an offender after release? When an offender has used up their sentence, is there ...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So it would fall to criminal justice social work, using whatever resources it had.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to explore a little further the workings of the Parole Board. Who will give evidence to the Parole Board when somebody comes up for parole? Where is the evidence gathered from?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Will having only two members on the Parole Board offer a wide enough range of experience?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Once the tribunal has made its decision, how will information be disseminated to victims? Will victims be able to give a statement to the tribunal?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
And people with a need to know will be informed of the outcome.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Such a person would be able to inform their colleagues, even if they did not sit on every tribunal.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It was as a result of that demonstration that I wanted to ask you about screwdrivers. We were told that a large Phillips screwdriver was a favoured weapon. I note what you said about under-16s not being allowed to be sold domestic knives. Will that provision in any way prevent...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you—that is helpful.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
How dangerous are the swords that are used for Scottish highland dancing and re-enactments? Surely they cannot be too sharp, given that dancers will not want to get their feet cut. What swords are we talking about here?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
24 Oct 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Okay, that is fair enough.
Maureen Macmillan (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will go back to risk assessment and ask you to clear up a point for me. Perhaps you clarified it in your oral evidence, but if you did I did not pick up on it.Paragraph 11 of the ADSW and COSLA joint submission states:"This joint process of risk assessment between Scottish P...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is helpful.I want to ask you about the role of the voluntary sector in more detail. I know from the committee's youth justice inquiry that the voluntary sector plays a huge part in delivering youth justice services. There is a lot of expertise in the voluntary sector. I k...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
How much do you propose to involve the voluntary sector? One complaint from the voluntary sector about youth justice was that it was never involved in strategic planning or making strategic decisions—it was always brought in at the last minute. Will the voluntary sector have m...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Which voluntary organisations are likely to be partners? I know about Sacro and Apex Scotland. Are there others?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I presume that you are considering service level agreements and so on locally. How does that fit in with what you said about qualified social workers and paraprofessionals? I am aware that although many voluntary organisations employ qualified social workers, many have people ...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
However, you are still anxious that the voluntary sector does not have enough capacity.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. That is helpful.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Further to Jackie Baillie's question, perhaps it would be an idea to require some sort of identification. I understand that some local authorities require the production of photographic ID when purchasing certain second-hand goods. Would it be a good idea to make that a licenc...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Instead of leaving the decision to individual local authorities, should the Scottish ministers impose the production of photographic ID as a standard licence condition?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Are you content with the proposal on the restriction on the sale of swords, whereby the seller must take reasonable steps to confirm that a sword is being bought for a legitimate purpose, such as highland dancing, re-enactment or the like?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What steps would you like to be taken to achieve the aim of ensuring that the seller is selling the sword to a legitimate person or organisation?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Last week the worry was flagged up to us that, although people might not buy swords costing thousands of pounds, they could go and buy a sword that was supposed to be for highland dancing or re-enactment and then go home and sharpen it. If they had to produce a document to sho...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You mentioned the increase in the number of prisoners, overcrowding and the reduction in staff numbers. Does overcrowding have a significant impact on your work on the rehabilitation of prisoners? Perhaps you could tell us about the rehabilitation work that prison officers do ...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Am I right in thinking that rehabilitation programmes are delivered mainly to long-term prisoners rather than to short-term prisoners?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Does having to deliver such programmes to short-term prisoners add to the stress?
Maureen Macmillan (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Does victim notification happen only if victims request it?Neil Paterson indicated agreement.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Presumably there is no problem if the offence is not terribly serious. Your concern is with more serious offences.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do sheriffs think that community disposals are robust enough? In the end, the sheriff does the sentencing, and I am aware that sheriffs seem to be disinclined to use community disposals.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So why are all these people in prison for short sentences when they could have been given a community disposal?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is interesting. I want to go on to ask about proportionality—
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Of course.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to ask about the difference between supervision and support. Someone who comes out of custody after a month will need different supervision or support from someone who comes out after three years. I presume that it would be inappropriate for someone who has served a sho...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So it depends on the individual, but we could see support as a continuum, with supervision at the more serious end.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So you would focus your resources at the more serious end of the scale to protect the public from risk.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Are the offenders on short-term sentences not the ones who keep going in and out of prison?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So we should really be looking for community disposals for sentences of six months.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am aware that criminal justice social workers currently supervise about 600 released prisoners in Scotland. The financial memorandum to the bill estimates that the number will increase to around 3,700. We have talked about the figures already. Do you think that criminal just...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Does the bill sit well with the Management of Offenders etc (Scotland) Act 2005? Do the two pieces of legislation mesh together quite well?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Will the provision to regulate knife and sword sales be effective in reducing violent crime, or can you suggest any alternatives that would help to prevent people—mostly young males—from carrying knives and using them for violence?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am trying to dredge up what I know about Finland's prisons. The Justice 1 Committee looked at the Finnish system ages ago. I had the impression that if someone went to prison there, nothing was done for them—there were no anger management courses, for example.What evidence e...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You mentioned good supervision. What do prisoners need when they are released? What should we be giving them? What would you consider to be good supervision?
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It occurs to me that there is a gap between getting out of prison and getting support. I hope that things might be better under the Management of Offenders etc (Scotland) Act 2005. When I have visited prisons, I have met prisoners who got out of prison a year previously but we...
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So there should be a seamless transition.
Maureen Macmillan: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes. I am the person who asks the weapons question.
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Plenary, 11 Jan 2007

11 Jan 2007 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Macmillan, Maureen Lab Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV
The present system of automatic and unconditional early release of prisoners is rightly discredited; the system alarms victims and communities because they cannot understand why a person who has been sentenced to four years can be released after only two and can be kept under supervision only in particular circumstances—for example, if the person is a sex offender.

The Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill should provide more clarity for victims and the public alike. There should be a clear public announcement in court by the sheriff of the minimum time that an offender will spend in jail. That time will be at least half, and up to three quarters, of the sentence. There will be a risk assessment in prison for those who will serve less than three quarters of their sentence in custody. That assessment will decide—in real time—whether a prisoner should be allowed to complete their sentence in the community. Crucially, it will also decide whether the rehabilitation programmes and support services that have been begun in prison will continue in the community where the prisoner will serve the remainder of their sentence under licence conditions.

The principles of the bill have been warmly welcomed. Once enacted, the bill will work alongside the Management of Offenders etc (Scotland) Act 2005, which requires close co-operation between the Scottish Prison Service and the community justice associations, and builds on the integrated case management that has already been developed to deal with certain categories of offenders.

Much of the focus of debate in the Justice 2 Committee was on the custodial part of the sentence—especially on the perceived anomaly of the 15-day cut-off, whereby a 15-day sentence will be served totally in custody, but anything more will be served half in custody and half in the community. As other members have said, wherever the cut-off is, there will be an anomaly. The minister said that there is a minimum time in which rehabilitation measures are possible, but we need a fuller explanation of the minister's thinking. The minister might wish to consider whether there will be particular impacts on female offenders, who tend to be at the lower end of the tariff and who might need support.

We must not overlook the fact that the part of the sentence that is served in the community is just as important as the part of the sentence that is served in jail. Bill Whyte of the criminal justice social work development centre said in evidence:

"I value the bill's recognition that a period in the community should be part of the sentence … because that is what is likely to give us a chance to connect."—[Official Report, Justice 2 Committee, 14 November 2006; c 2967.]

The question that is therefore raised is this: can we have a seamless transition when we consider the numbers of prisoners that it is predicted will come through the prison system? It would be wonderful to be able to offer all offenders a gold standard of support after they leave prison, but there is concern that practical realities will mean that, if there is no prioritisation of resources to those who are most in need, resources will be spread too thinly, to the detriment of all.

I am sure that the Executive has given thought to that and, although I do not expect to see such practicalities in the bill, it would be useful to hear from the minister how priorities will be judged and who will make the judgments. As has been mentioned by other members, one solution that was mooted in evidence was that we should do away with short-term custodial sentences for minor offenders. Witnesses could not, however, agree on a cut-off point.

The debate has been going on for several years, and I feel that the committee was sidetracked somewhat from the main aspects of the bill. It is now perfectly possible for sheriffs to sentence offenders to community disposals. The number of sheriffs who do so is increasing; such disposals are increasingly seen as being neither soft nor ineffective. However, persuading sheriffs to increase the use of such disposals is outwith the scope of the bill, which deals with how custodial sentences should be managed when they are imposed. I hope that the Executive will do all that it can to promote the use of community disposals instead of prison disposals.

Sheriffs take a while to become comfortable with new sentences; naturally, they take time to examine them. We are told that they are somewhat uncertain about section 6 of the bill, which outlines the criteria that should be used in sentencing. It would be helpful if ministers could clarify that. I was pleased to hear the minister's commitment that the section would be reviewed.

Concerns have also been expressed that sheriffs may recalibrate sentences to retain the status quo—although ministers have indicated that that should not happen.

Another area of concern is the process of recall to prison if licence is breached. If release on licence is to be meaningful, a breach must be dealt with when it occurs. However, that raises questions of resources—for example, for the Parole Board, which will review the case, and for the Prison Service, which will provide accommodation. It has been suggested that there could be a revolving-door scenario. Questions have also been asked about the number of members of the Parole Board. Many of the questions will be answered when the detailed information work by the planning group is completed. I know that many of the bodies that asked those questions are members of the planning group, so I assume that they will address their own concerns. I look forward to their solutions.

I turn to the proposals in part 3 to restrict the sale of non-domestic knives and swords. I am sure that there is no one in the chamber who will not welcome those restrictions. We have heard over a number of months—not just during our consideration of the bill—from the violence reduction unit and from accident and emergency consultants about the seriousness of the knife-carrying culture that exists principally in west-central Scotland, although it is not exclusive to that area. Some other parts of the country may, in fact, have been complacent. I fear that that has been true of the area that I represent, although the Northern constabulary has recently expressed concerns about an increase in knife carrying and in the use of knives as weapons in assaults and robberies—in one case, a bayonet was used—and has said that any measure that stops casual carrying, mostly by young men, of those lethal weapons is to be commended. Victims and perpetrators are interchangeable and fatalities or serious injury can occur through panic and ignorance of basic anatomy. Let us do all that we can to stop it.

I support the principles of the bill and recommend it to Parliament.

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Tommy Sheridan (Glasgow) (Sol): Sol
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Tommy Sheridan: Sol
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Cathy Jamieson: Lab
I will take a short intervention from Mr Sheridan.
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
Be very brief, Mr Sheridan.
Tommy Sheridan: Sol
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Mr Kenny MacAskill (Lothians) (SNP): SNP
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Jeremy Purvis (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD): LD
Will the member take an intervention?
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Colin Fox (Lothians) (SSP): SSP
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