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Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
22 Sep 2005
Survivors of Childhood Sexual Abuse
I thank all the members of the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on survivors of childhood sexual abuse, many of whom are with us in the public gallery, for their tireless effort and support. I thank my colleagues Margaret Mitchell—our vice convener—and Maureen Macm...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 Oct 2004
National Construction Week
I am delighted to have the opportunity to debate a motion in my name on the construction industry. As convener of the cross-party group on construction, I wish to thank all those who have supported me in the group's work over the past year. Many of them are in the public galle...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
01 Dec 2004
Institutional Child Abuse
I am pleased to have the opportunity to contribute to this afternoon's significant and much-needed debate. As the convener of the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on survivors of childhood sexual abuse, I welcome the package of measures that the minister has announ...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab) Lab Committee
18 Jan 2011
Cross-party Groups
I think that everybody is aware that I chair the cross-party group on construction and the cross-party group on survivors of childhood sexual abuse. I hope that I put my returns in—I think that I did. I also attend the cross-party group on Alzheimer’s. The two groups with whic...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
10 Mar 2005
Infrastructure Investment Plan
I am pleased to be able to contribute positively to this important debate. The Executive's commitment, at the time of the spending review in the autumn, to publish an infrastructure investment plan was important and welcome.As the convener of the cross-party group on construct...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
07 Mar 2001
Sexual Abuse
In view of the number of members who want to speak in the debate, I shall try to keep my speech as brief as possible.I thank the Parliament for allowing us the opportunity to debate the complex issues surrounding the long-term effects and impacts on survivors of childhood sexu...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
26 Feb 2004
Young People
I begin in the same vein, I hope, as my colleague Pauline McNeill, by discussing the valuable and positive contribution that Scotland's young people make. Scotland is a nation that values and celebrates the diversity of all its citizens. The First Minister's statement in the c...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
02 Nov 2004
Petitions
I concur with much of what Elaine Smith said. I am convener of the cross-party group on survivors of childhood sexual abuse, which is looking at working with a ministerial team on a preventive strategy. We have considered the issue of internet grooming and there are links betw...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
08 Sep 2004
Scottish Executive's Programme
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in today's debate on the Executive's forthcoming legislative programme. Before beginning, I thank those who have worked so hard to make our vision for our Parliament a reality. The opening of this Parliament building is the final stag...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
10 Feb 2005
Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service
I bring to the debate no personal expertise and I am not a member of a justice committee. However, as the convener of the cross-party group on survivors of childhood sexual abuse, I have had in-depth involvement with the Crown Office on some changes, particularly those for vul...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
07 Jun 2007
Sex Offenders
I am pleased to contribute to this important debate. As convener of the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on survivors of childhood sexual abuse for the past six years, I will take the opportunity to press for continued and increased resources for the victims of sex...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
09 Sep 2009
Dementia Strategy
As a member of the cross-party group on Alzheimer's, I, too, pay tribute to Irene Oldfather for all the work that she has undertaken for people throughout Scotland who suffer from Alzheimer's.It has been predicted that the number of people in Fife who have dementia will increa...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Committee
14 Jan 2009
National Planning Framework
Before I ask my question, I have a comment on what Stephen Boyd said about the shortage of planners. The committee heard evidence about that on two or three occasions, and we put the matter to the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities. To some extent, it is a chicken-and-eg...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
05 Oct 2000
Criminal Justice and Court Services Bill
The key issue in this debate is how we can provide a safe environment for our children and for the most vulnerable people in our society. Consistency across the UK for the sex offenders register is only one issue. The Sewel motion before us today will allow us that coherence a...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
17 Jan 2007
Protection of Vulnerable Groups (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to have the opportunity to contribute to this important debate in my roles as a relatively new member of the Education Committee and as convener of the Scottish Parliament cross-party group on survivors of childhood sexual abuse. I thank fellow committee members, ...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
22 May 2008
Skills Strategy
Thank you, Presiding Officer.I welcome the motion, which gives us an opportunity to debate the importance of skills development to growing Scotland's economy. Last September, the chamber quite rightly rejected the Government's skills strategy, and today's debate allows us to s...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
29 Nov 2006
Protection of Vulnerable Groups (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am new to the committee, but I have read the evidence that was given by the EIS and the Scottish Parent Teacher Council, who suggest that the bill encourages a focus on stranger danger. However, more than 80 per cent of young people who are abused are abused by people who ar...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
02 Nov 1999
Progress Reports
I want to raise a different issue. Last week, Johann Lamont and I attended the meeting of the cross-party working group on human rights. Human rights organisations want to set up a commission for human rights and would like to make representations to the Equal Opportunities Co...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
19 Nov 2003
Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It gives me great pleasure to speak in this key debate today. The stage 1 debate on the Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill has been long awaited.Over the past few years, I have been the convener of the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on survivors of childhood se...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Chamber
25 May 2006
Police, Public Order and Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
As I said, we believe that the retention of DNA is about deterring and solving crime. My cross-party group is in favour of the protection of innocent people, but we really need to look at the balance on this issue.In the interests of ensuring some consistency and of preventing...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
01 Jun 2006
Architecture
I am pleased to be able to speak in the debate. One thing that members can agree about is that architecture is important in ensuring that Scotland continues to be recognised as an exceptional place to live in, to work in and to visit. I welcome the Executive's intention to pub...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
18 Nov 2009
Arbitration (Scotland) Bill
I thank the clerks to the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee and my fellow committee members for their help and support during our consideration of the bill. I also thank the people who gave evidence and helped us with the bill's technical aspects.The bill's main purposes a...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Committee
20 Jun 2007
Interests
All my interests are set out in the register of members' interests. I am a member of the Educational Institute of Scotland. My husband works as a team leader in the business gateway in Fife. I chair the cross-party group on construction.
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2007
Work Programme
On all those issues I am asking what role the committee will have. I do not think that you can split the skills and enterprise agendas, although I know that they have been split as far as ministerial portfolios go. I chair the cross-party group on construction, and I work with...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
19 Sep 2007
Skills Strategy
I support Iain Gray's comments. Like you, convener, I was a member of the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee in the first session and I am the current chair of the cross-party group on construction. The industry out there would be bemused if we did not take evidence on...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
07 Nov 2007
Skills Strategy
I have a short supplementary question. You will be aware, as am I, that the issue of the equalisation of funding between the further and higher education sectors is always being raised. What are your views on the equalisation of funding? As you will know, I chair the cross-par...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
07 May 2008
Tourism Inquiry
My questions are based on my experience with my local authority, Fife Council. I chair the cross-party group on construction, and one of our biggest worries is retention and recruitment of planners. I want to ask about a couple of specific issues that have been raised with me....
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
21 May 2008
Enterprise Network Reform
I have two questions, which I will ask together because I know that the convener is keeping an eye on the time. First, you talked about economic pull and better partnership working. Do you acknowledge that as well as providing education and training, local further and higher e...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Committee
25 Jun 2008
Research
I have a specific question about the construction industry. As you know, I chair the cross-party group in the Parliament on construction. Any reduction in house building will have an impact on the number of people who are employed in the industry. How will that affect the cons...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
10 Sep 2008
Energy Inquiry
Thank you. I chair the cross-party group on construction. I was interested to hear what dialogue was going on with the industry and what you would be doing in the future.The overview document, under "Supporting actions: Protecting the environment" on page 19, says: "Our commit...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
05 Nov 2008
Budget Process 2009-10
I wish to explore the matter slightly further. The minister will know that I chair the cross-party group on construction.
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
28 Jan 2009
Energy Inquiry
I chair the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on construction, which I think would say that Government must send a message to Skills Development Scotland that programmes will be funded. We must ensure that there are enough modern apprenticeships and top-up courses f...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Committee
16 Sep 2009
Financial Services Inquiry
I have a question about the cost and availability of credit. I chair the cross-party group on construction, of which Nigel Don is the vice-convener. We hear from the construction industry that there are huge restraints on credit and that there has been renegotiation of the ter...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
23 Sep 2009
Financial Services Inquiry
That would be very interesting. I chair the cross-party group on construction and it would be extremely helpful to have information on where the growth is. Did you do any work on the impacts on skills development and modern apprenticeships? Have firms been reluctant to take on...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Committee
29 Nov 2006
Interests
I declare that I am a member of the Educational Institute of Scotland and of Fife lifelong learning partnership, and that I chair the cross-party group on survivors of childhood sexual abuse.
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
29 Nov 2006
Protection of Vulnerable Groups (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You heard in my declaration of interests that I chair the cross-party group on survivors of childhood sexual abuse, which I have been doing for five years. Through Malcolm Chisholm, we have an expert working group that was set up by the Scottish Executive, which has taken evid...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Committee
11 Jan 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will take that slightly further. One of my tasks in the Parliament is to chair the cross-party group on survivors of childhood sexual abuse. I have seen how long it has taken us to reach the current position in which we discuss the subject openly. We know that child sexual a...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
25 Apr 2006
Disability Inquiry
As I chair the cross-party group on survivors of childhood sexual abuse, I was particularly interested in your work on self-harm. Will you be able to measure the success of that element of the campaign, for example if there is—I hope that there will be—a reduction in the numbe...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Chamber
27 Nov 2003
Violence Against Women
That is how it sounded to me.In 2003, some 9,706 women, many with children, contacted either the domestic abuse unit or one of the three Women's Aid groups in Fife.The forum has a steering group and a number of working groups on subjects that range from criminal justice to hea...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
29 Jan 2004
Question Time · Labour Force (Skills)
As the minister is aware, I chair the cross-party group for construction. Last night, Robert Brown and I attended the meeting of our skills and training sub-group. Is the minister prepared to meet our group, which has representatives of the CITB and all sectors in the industry...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
12 May 2005
Schools-Colleges Review
I, too, welcome the strategy for schools and further education colleges that the minister has outlined today. I also welcome the positive way in which the debate has been conducted, which is good to see.The strategy is an important part of the Executive's skills and economic s...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
07 Dec 2005
Violence Against Women
In the short time that I have, I want to make particular reference to the effect that violence against women has on our children and young people. There is a substantial body of research that demonstrates both the scale of domestic abuse and the impact that it has on children ...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2008
Energy Efficiency
I warmly welcome Gordon Brown's commitment to work towards the 80 per cent target across the UK.The measures in Sarah Boyack's member's bill on microgeneration, which proposed incentives to encourage the use of small-scale renewables technology, were supported by the SNP when ...
Marilyn Livingstone Lab Committee
29 Sep 2010
Enterprise Network Inquiry
I know that some of my colleagues want to come in on that issue, but I would like to ask about a different one. Skills are crucial. I chair the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on construction. Skills and not looking across Scotland are the issues at every meeting ...
Marilyn Livingstone Lab Committee
27 Oct 2010
Enterprise Network Inquiry
What is coming over from the witnesses is that we need a much more joined-up approach. I chair the cross-party group on construction and its skills sub-group. The same message comes across from the whole construction industry.SDS does what it can do, but we have many other age...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab) Lab Committee
24 Nov 2010
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2011-12
I should maybe declare an interest in that I chair the Parliament’s cross-party group on construction. I could spend the whole meeting asking about the construction industry, but I will not do that.You talked about the cut in Skills Development Scotland’s budget and the cuts i...
Marilyn Livingstone Lab Committee
24 Nov 2010
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2011-12
My first question is about the construction sector. As I chair the cross-party group on construction, I obviously have an interest in that area. In light of its economic importance, what do you think Government could best do to help recovery in the construction sector?
Marilyn Livingstone Lab Committee
15 Dec 2010
Council of Economic Advisers (Annual Report)
I will move on slightly. We have talked about the restrictions on finance, which I believe are hitting the construction industry hardest. I chair the cross-party group on construction and we are very concerned about the lack of finance, particularly to the SME sector. An issue...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Chamber
26 Feb 2004
Co-operative Development Agency
I am talking about the work that I see happening within the Labour Party and the Co-operative Party, which is what Mary Scanlon would expect me to do. The co-operative movement is much broader.I welcome the commitment to the co-operative development agency: it is an innovative...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
15 Jun 2005
Sexual Health
Sexual health is a controversial subject on which people have deeply held views. However, given the rising rates of diagnosed sexually transmitted infections among people of all ages, to do nothing or to do little would be irresponsible. Like Mike Rumbles, I was surprised to h...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Chamber
28 Jan 2010
Skills Strategy
I accept that. I would not detract from the additional funding or the commitment to Scotland's colleges. What I am saying is that they are now struggling. If we are truly committed to allowing those who need to learn to do so, we need to do more. Adam Smith College has had a n...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
15 Dec 2004
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage
Thank you for that. However, the point that I was making is that we took evidence from Barry Cross that the council would implement a concessionary scheme. I was looking for clarification. Is the council still considering concessionary fares for the tram? If there was a conces...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
09 Mar 2004
Reporters
We went to Fife yesterday afternoon, but we have not finished the Fife visit. Roy McMahon and I are going to Fife sensory impairment centre to speak to deaf and blind disabled people from Fife. Quite a lot of people want to speak to us, and because we need time to get the faci...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Chamber
18 Mar 2004
Finance and Communities · Dispute Resolution (Mediation)
I thank the minister for his answer and for his commitment to the service. Does he agree that Fife, and in particular Fife Council, has provided an example of best practice in the area, especially in neighbour disputes? Will he assure me that such innovative projects, which in...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Chamber
26 Feb 2004
Co-operative Development Agency
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this important debate. Like my colleagues, I wish to declare an interest—I am a member of the Co-operative Party and a sponsored Co-operative MSP.In the true spirit of co-operation, I thank my colleague Johann Lamont for lodging th...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Committee
05 Dec 2007
Budget Process 2008-09
I will ask strictly about the budget. You have talked about priorities in the budget, the impact of decisions and not micromanaging. You will not be surprised that my first question is about skills. The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism determines the budget for the ...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab Committee
24 Sep 2008
Credit Crunch (Impact on Scottish Economy)
I represent Kirkcaldy and am convener of the cross-party group on construction.
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
24 Sep 2008
Credit Crunch (Impact on Scottish Economy)
I am the MSP for Kirkcaldy, and convener of the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on construction.
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
24 Sep 2008
Credit Crunch (Impact on Scottish Economy)
What I have heard today confirms what I have heard in the cross-party group on construction. I want to bring two issues to your attention. The first is that we are concerned about the level of apprenticeship training and the impact that that will have on a lot of the good work...
Marilyn Livingstone: Lab Committee
24 Sep 2008
Credit Crunch (Impact on Scottish Economy)
I understand what Rob Gibson was saying about influencing the UK Government, but most of what we are hearing today concerns what the Scottish Parliament can do, not what the UK Government can do. That is what we should focus on. This is not a political debate; it is a debate a...
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Plenary, 22 Sep 2005

22 Sep 2005 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Survivors of Childhood Sexual Abuse
I thank all the members of the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on survivors of childhood sexual abuse, many of whom are with us in the public gallery, for their tireless effort and support. I thank my colleagues Margaret Mitchell—our vice convener—and Maureen Macmillan for her work with Highlands and Islands survivors groups.

Our cross-party group was established in 2000 following a petition by Kingdom Advice Survivors Project in my constituency. I thank Anne Macdonald for bringing the issue to me as the local MSP and, indeed, for bringing it to the Parliament's attention. Anne has continued to give us all tremendous support as vice-convener of the cross-party group and for that we are greatly indebted to her. I have heard first hand from young children, parents and adult survivors, all of whom have been victims. Their experiences have made me determined to continue to work towards eradication of this heinous crime.

I want to take a few minutes to outline the road that we have travelled together. The cross-party group was established as a forum for an agreed programme of debate on childhood sexual abuse, its long-term effects and its links with mental health problems, alcohol and drug abuse, domestic violence and homelessness. We were also determined to create greater public awareness and understanding in order to combat the many myths that surround sexual abuse and its impact on our society. The group, which includes a wide range of professionals and—importantly—survivors, has helped us not only to highlight concerns but to determine solutions to this very complex problem.

Following the successful "One Year On" event, the then Minister for Health and Community Care agreed to commission a short-life working group in the Executive to progress the issues that the cross-party group raised. Most important, our group was well represented and was able to contribute to the report that the short-life working group compiled in 2004. Before and after that report's completion, we met the Minister for Health and Community Care, Andy Kerr, to discuss the next steps and the way forward. I thank him for staying to listen to this evening's debate; indeed, I want to take this opportunity to put on record our sincere thanks for his help, support and commitment, which have been beyond belief. We really appreciate what he has done. I also thank Cathy Jamieson, Peter Peacock and Malcolm Chisholm for their support in developing the strategic response to child sexual abuse.

At our meeting with Andy Kerr in June, we discussed common themes that had emerged from the cross-party group's discussions and the short-life working group's report. That has resulted in action that the Executive will undertake to address our agenda. This evening represents a major landmark for us and for all survivors, and we thank everyone involved in helping us to move forward towards achieving our objectives.

We very much welcome the creation of a reference group that will include adult survivors and cross-party group representation, to help us to implement key policy objectives, and we welcome the appointment of a lead professional to assist the strategy's implementation. We believe that such a move is important; we need someone who can help us to drive forward the agenda.

We also welcome the commitment to scope what community health partnerships and managed clinical network structures can offer, and we welcome the important establishment of a £2 million survivors fund to pump-prime activity. The Executive will call for bids for demonstration projects to be met from the survivors fund—I am sure that the minister will give us more details on that this evening. Information about a raft of other measures can be accessed on the cross-party group's website and I am sure that my colleagues will mention some of them during the debate.

The reference group's work will be crucial in ensuring that abuse of children is at the forefront of policy in Scotland. There are no short-term solutions, but such actions will ensure that survivors throughout Scotland will feel that they are being listened to. We must remember that, no matter whether we are talking about past or present crimes, those crimes were and are being committed against innocent children. It is our society's responsibility to protect the children of today and tomorrow as well as to support yesterday's children, who are today's adult survivors.

The cross-party group believes that the partnership that we have developed with survivors, survivor agencies, professionals and the Executive shows true commitment to addressing child sexual abuse. We are all aware of the challenges that we face and that there are no short-term fixes or easy solutions. Abuse of children will not end without real commitment and determination, so we must tackle it strategically, responsibly and with a cool head.

The cross-party group's vice-convener, Anne Macdonald, has likened the way in which our society must address sexual abuse of children to the way it has addressed attitudes to other behaviour that we know to be wrong such as slavery, domestic abuse and apartheid. Our generation has acknowledged that abuse happens, so it must find a solution. It is our duty not to stand back and be fearful, even though the subject is sometimes too frightening to contemplate. We are in the 21st century, in our first Scottish Parliament in 300 years, and we have within our grasp the opportunity to contribute something lasting that will change people's lives for ever.

We can give hope to survivors, while sending a clear message to perpetrators that they can no longer depend on the silence that they have imposed on their victims. We will throw light on the shadows that they cast on the most vulnerable people in our society: our children.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Murray Tosh): Con
The final item of business is a members' business debate on motion S2M-3074, in the name of Marilyn Livingstone, on survivors of childhood sexual abuse. The ...
Motion debated,
That the Parliament notes the invaluable work done by local groups, such as Kingdom Abuse Survivors Project (KASP) in Kirkcaldy, in providing services for su...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab
I thank all the members of the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on survivors of childhood sexual abuse, many of whom are with us in the public ga...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con): Con
I am delighted to support and speak to Marilyn Livingstone's motion and I congratulate her on securing the debate. As deputy convener of the cross-party grou...
Mr Kenny MacAskill (Lothians) (SNP): SNP
As is customary, I pay tribute to Marilyn Livingstone for securing the debate and for the terms of her speech, but my tribute has to go beyond that. This iss...
Maureen Macmillan (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab
I am pleased to speak to welcome the Executive's further commitment to support adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse. I congratulate Marilyn Livingston, ...
Tricia Marwick (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP): SNP
I, too, congratulate Marilyn Livingstone on securing tonight's debate, on the work that she has done on the cross-party group on survivors of childhood sexua...
The Deputy Minister for Health and Community Care (Lewis Macdonald): Lab
I thank Marilyn Livingstone for lodging the motion and congratulate her on securing today's debate. I also thank all the other members who have spoken and co...
Meeting closed at 17:45.