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Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
08 May 2002
Cross-party Groups
I agree that there should be a review prior to the beginning of the 2003 session. I share Tricia Marwick's concerns about cross-party groups. I suspect that the issue might be a case of never mind the quality, feel the width. We are in danger of people forming cross-party grou...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
20 Nov 2002
Cross-party Groups
I, too, have looked through the paper. We were all bright eyed and bushy tailed at the start, when there was a great rush to join cross-party groups. However, next time round, in 2003, some members will pull back from rushing in blindly and joining a committee just because the...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Chamber
06 Jul 2000
National Health Service
Every action and every announcement by the health minister is for the short-term benefit of new Labour, or Susan Deacon, or both. Last week's events provide a clear example of what a political football the health service has become, not just between political parties but, here...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
04 Dec 2002
Cross-party Groups
In general, committee members have anecdotal evidence that some cross-party groups are not running as they should be, that there are too many groups and that too often separate groups deal with similar subjects. There is no point in our proceeding unless we know how effective ...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
05 Dec 2001
Cross-party Groups
I would like to pick up what Tricia Marwick said about groups springing up because a subject is particularly sexy at the time and then withering on the vine. I am concerned about that. I am concerned that members could use the setting up of a cross-party group as a publicity t...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
16 Jan 2002
Cross-party Groups
I appreciate what you said in your statement, Keith, but there are many cross-party groups and the same arguments would apply to all of them. Susan Deacon will forgive me, but there are a lot of cross-party groups on health issues and I do not think that we can change the rule...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
13 Mar 2002
Cross-party Groups
That is my concern. I am concerned that cross-party groups would suddenly start playing to the television cameras at the expense of the kind of work that they have been doing. They might even feel that they have to think up events that they can have televised. That would detra...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
20 Nov 2002
Cross-party Groups
I agree with what has been said. We have to start with a definition. It is important to learn from the experience of the past four years and give something to the new group of MSPs. Cross-party groups should be defined and evaluated.From the start, my problem with cross-party ...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
21 Nov 2001
Cross-party Groups
Although the application is fine by me, I am generally concerned by the number of cross-party groups that seem to have sprung up, particularly on flavour-of-the-month issues. What is the attendance at the meetings of these groups? How many times do the members listed in the ap...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
05 Dec 2001
Cross-party Groups
I am concerned about MSPs' attendance. When I was elected, I was as guilty and as full of enthusiasm as other MSPs in saying that I would join groups, but the reality has now set in. New groups are suggested and the same people are involved. I am concerned that around 30 per c...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
27 Mar 2002
Cross-party Groups
I share those concerns. George Reid made a legitimate case for resources to be made available in special circumstances, but I am concerned that we are opening the floodgates. The proposed change could also skew the work of the cross-party groups, because certain members could ...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
20 Nov 2002
Cross-party Groups
I totally agree with that. It is quite shocking that 20 per cent of cross-party groups have not complied with the guidance. The advice should be put into the code of conduct.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
04 Dec 2002
Cross-party Groups
Considering the convener's proposed time frame, I do not think that it would be any great hardship for cross-party groups not to start at the beginning of May, because the Parliament will be in recess quite soon after that. Logically and logistically, the time frame makes sens...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
18 Dec 2002
Cross-party Group
I see no problem with the group and I can see the reasons for having it. Are you aware that the group will run for only three months, because all cross-party groups cease to exist on dissolution?
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
18 Dec 2002
Cross-party Groups Review
That is disappointing, because it is important to consider how the groups have been operating for the past three years and to see where they have reached. It is important to be able to evaluate the groups after they have been running for a long time rather than at the start of...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
29 Jan 2003
Cross-party Group on Palestine
The problem that has been highlighted is that some issues will not attract members of all parties. That will have to be looked into. However, there is no reason why the cross-party group on Palestine should not continue to meet, as the precedent has been set.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
05 Dec 2001
Code of Conduct
Susan Deacon might remember my previous life as health spokesperson for my party. Regional members with a particular portfolio tend to get letters and phone calls from people all over the country wanting them to take up particular cases. It was always difficult to decide what ...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
21 Sep 2000
Public Health
Members will recall that, when we last debated public health just over a year ago, the SNP did not lodge an amendment to the Executive motion. I felt then, as I do now, that improving Scotland's dreadful health record was too important to be subject to knee-jerk party politica...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Chamber
28 Feb 2002
Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner Bill: Stage 1
Yes, there are two strikes against you, Gordon.Although most people rate us somewhere below lawyers and journalists, some people probably rate us as being on a par with Jack the Ripper or the Boston Strangler. That might seem like an exaggeration but, as has been said, facts a...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
03 Nov 1999
North Ayrshire (Unemployment)
The previous speakers have given eloquent testimony about the terrible unemployment black spot in North Ayrshire. It is heartening to have cross-party support for the motion. However, although I welcome Phil Gallie's born-again Tory approach to the roads infrastructure and une...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Chamber
24 Jun 1999
Privatisation of Public Services
No matter which way Mr McConnell puts it, the bottom line is still the same—his party was rent asunder over PFI. During the election campaign, Unison members who were Labour candidates had to stand by as their colleagues resigned from the Labour party over the privatisation of...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
28 Feb 2001
Cross-party Groups
Your standard English, Frank.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
05 Dec 2001
Cross-party Groups
We await Ken Macintosh's application with interest. Perhaps the onus is on us to be more critical in considering applications. I have not always been a member of the committee. Has it ever turned down an application for a group, and if so, on what grounds?
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
16 Jan 2002
Cross-party Groups
It concerns me that people who sit on drug advisory bodies are not prepared to speak out or to give information and that they keep to themselves information that may be crucial.
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
13 Mar 2002
Cross-party Groups
No we do not.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
13 Mar 2002
Cross-party Groups
We just shout at one another.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
13 Mar 2002
Cross-party Groups
Lucky person.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
13 Mar 2002
Cross-party Groups
In many ways, I agree with Tricia Marwick. In this instance, I agree that television broadcasting should be permitted. Obviously, George Reid agrees that the criteria must be very specific. However, I am not sure how specific the phrase "of national importance" is. That seems ...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
27 Mar 2002
Cross-party Groups
I agree with Lord James Douglas-Hamilton's comments about a review, but I suggest that we wait no longer than six months.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
08 May 2002
Cross-party Groups
Yes. I have tried to do that, too.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
09 Oct 2002
Scottish Parliament and Business Exchange
Cross-party groups come under the remit of the Standards Committee. Who—which committee or organisation—looks after the scrutinising of the whole programme?
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
09 Oct 2002
Scottish Parliament and Business Exchange
I am using cross-party groups as an example. The Standards Committee is responsible for the scrutiny and monitoring of those.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
20 Nov 2002
Cross-party Groups
So they will cease to exist.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
20 Nov 2002
Cross-party Groups
Okay. Thank you.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
04 Dec 2002
Cross-party Groups
I know that, but I think that the reality is different. We need to find out about that.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
04 Dec 2002
Cross-party Groups
We must make a decision today to facilitate—
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
04 Dec 2002
Cross-party Groups
I disagree with Ken Macintosh. If we are to have proper research within the time frame that we want, it is essential that we reach a decision today.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
04 Dec 2002
Cross-party Groups
Yes, but I am talking about the—
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
18 Dec 2002
Cross-party Group
Can you comment on that?
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
18 Dec 2002
Cross-party Group
Did you not consider saying that, as there were only three months to go, you might wait and allow somebody else to do it?
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
18 Dec 2002
Cross-party Groups Review
Will you be starting with the groups as they exist at present?
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
23 Feb 2000
Clydeside (Regeneration)
I want to thank Mr Lyon for bringing this matter to the attention of the Parliament. Like Trish Godman, I welcome the setting up of a group to address the regeneration of the Clyde. I hope that the group will include MSPs of all parties and genders so that the initiative has t...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
30 Mar 2000
Mental Welfare Commission Report
I am grateful to the minister for the cross-party briefing that she provided earlier today. As she said, we have only just received that complex report and it will be some time before we have fully absorbed the details. I welcome her statement, particularly in relation to the ...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
14 Feb 2001
Community Care
This report is a good example of the important work that is being undertaken by the committees in the Parliament. In addition to taking written submissions and oral evidence, we went out, as Mary Scanlon said, in small cross-party groups. We visited nine different areas to wit...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Chamber
08 Jun 1999
Allowances
No.Why should someone from Arran or Dumbarton have to travel to Edinburgh to meet their chosen MSP? There should be no difference between constituency and list members. We are asking for the means to serve our constituents—no more, no less. The Labour amendment, by contrast, c...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Chamber
24 Jun 1999
Privatisation of Public Services
I will not give way just now.It is a fact that nearly 30 per cent of health service PFI schemes in the UK are in Scotland, and I call that a betrayal by the very party that gave us the national health service. I know that many of the Labour members who are here today share our...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
01 Sep 1999
Public Health
I plan to spend my time addressing the issues raised by the minister, but I must express my utter dismay at the tone of the amendment offered by the Tories. I was particularly dismayed by Mary Scanlon's slur on Scottish social work departments and social workers who continue t...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Chamber
01 Sep 1999
Public Health
No. What can we expect from a party that fought the Scottish election campaign on yet another major structural change in the health service in Scotland, which it was proposing to put into place a mere two months after the changes implemented on 1 April this year? The SNP—we ha...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
04 May 2000
Elderly and Disabled People
Members will be relieved to know that I will speak about care in the community, but I have to commend Mary Scanlon for her bravery in standing inside the glasshouse while she threw stones at new Labour on this issue. Everyone welcomes a sinner who repents, but in her case repe...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
03 Oct 2002
Lobbying
I was not on the Standards Committee when it started its deliberations into lobbying; I joined the committee more than a year later. Like all members, I was aware that a national newspaper had bounced the committee into conducting an inquiry into the so-called lobbygate affair...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
03 Feb 2000
National Health Service
First, I must say how sorry I was to hear the news this morning that Rhona Brankin has been diagnosed as having breast cancer. Rhona is to be commended for speaking out openly and publicly about her illness. It will give support to many other women throughout Scotland. I am su...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
10 May 2000
Budget Process
That brings me to table 4.11 on the grant-aided expenditure to social work, which cross-references to the section on local government. I notice that the figures given are for the GAE for all social work services. Why is it not possible—in order that we might monitor community ...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Chamber
21 Sep 2000
Public Health
I thank the minister. She obviously has a closer knowledge of babies and teeth than I do—my babies are somewhat large, but they do still have all their own teeth.As we know, public health is not just a health issue. There is hardly a policy area that does not have a potential ...
The Convener (Kay Ullrich): SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Good afternoon. We have received apologies from Jamie McGrigor. I remind everyone to turn off their mobile phones and pagers—given that I was the guilty party last time, I have already done that. I welcome Cathy Jamieson, the Minister for Education and Young People; Karen Gill...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
13 Nov 2001
Travelling People
I can see the reasoning behind the revised motion, as it frees committee members to take their own point of view, but surely it represents a volte-face from the original motion. Can anyone shed any light on the change? When I was a member of the Health and Community Care Commi...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
14 May 2002
Taking Stock (Race Issues)
Good morning, minister. I reach across the party divide to congratulate you on your appointment. I want to ask about Gypsy Travellers. You will be aware that the committee made 37 recommendations in its report to the Parliament on Gypsy Travellers and public sector policies in...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
22 Sep 1999
General Priorities
As members of the committee will know, I asked for an emergency meeting on acute and intensive psychiatric beds throughout Scotland, which I saw as a real problem that is adding to bedblocking. I have accepted the fact that you—the convener—refused my request, but the e-mail t...
Kay Ullrich: SNP Committee
27 Oct 1999
Arbuthnott Report
Will you convey to the minister the committee's displeasure at the way in which she handled her answers to our questions, which was terribly disrespectful to the committee? She made a party political broadcast; she did not answer questions. I would like you to convey the commi...
Kay Ullrich (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
23 May 2001
Lobbying
That is the Scottish National Party all over.
Kay Ullrich: SNP Chamber
23 Jun 1999
Devolved Legislation
I was trying not to say so, but it is usually from the Conservative party that we get the "Let them eat soup" question. I do not know whether he learned to make soup at his granny's knee, but it is a lost art form.
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Standards Committee, 08 May 2002

08 May 2002 · S1 · Standards Committee
Item of business
Cross-party Groups
Ullrich, Kay SNP West of Scotland Watch on SPTV
I agree that there should be a review prior to the beginning of the 2003 session. I share Tricia Marwick's concerns about cross-party groups. I suspect that the issue might be a case of never mind the quality, feel the width. We are in danger of people forming cross-party groups as a platform—cynical old Kay would say this—for their own political ends. People want to be able to preface what they say with the words, "As a member of the cross-party group". I am a wee bit suspicious of some people's motives. I am concerned that there are cross-party groups that cannot get more than one MSP—and sometimes no MSPs—to attend. That must be reviewed. We must take a firm line on cross-party groups that are not operating in the way that we expect them to.

In the same item of business

The Convener: LD
Our third item concerns the operation of cross-party groups. Members will recall that last year we reviewed the activity of such groups in the Parliament. Al...
Tricia Marwick: SNP
Having been a member of the Standards Committee from the start, I think that it would be useful to explain our thinking behind the cross-party groups at the ...
Kay Ullrich: SNP
I agree that there should be a review prior to the beginning of the 2003 session. I share Tricia Marwick's concerns about cross-party groups. I suspect that ...
Lord James Douglas-Hamilton: Con
I strongly support the proposal for a review. We could also check whether there is any duplication and whether it might be preferable for some groups to merg...
The Convener: LD
Before I bring in Susan Deacon, I reiterate that, under the code of conduct, a cross-party group requires"at least two Members of the Parliament".To my certa...
Susan Deacon: Lab
I, too, strongly support a review. I also strongly support the suggestion that a review should take place soon—before the end of the current session. That wo...
Mr Macintosh: Lab
I support having a review. I echo some of the concerns that have been expressed around the table, but I find that the cross-party groups are useful. Like oth...
Kay Ullrich: SNP
Yes. I have tried to do that, too.
Mr Macintosh: Lab
I suggest that there should be two levels of membership. There should be one level of membership for those who have an active interest and another for those ...
Tricia Marwick: SNP
Will the current cross-party groups fall at the election and have to be re-established after it? I cannot remember whether the groups are required to be woun...
Mr Macintosh: Lab
And a good exit strategy.
Lord James Douglas-Hamilton: Con
The cross-party groups would need to be set up again after an election because they might have a different membership.
Tricia Marwick: SNP
That is my point. Do the groups come to an end?
Susan Deacon: Lab
They must be reconstituted 90 days after an election.
Sam Jones:
The period is either 60 days or 90 days after an election. For some reason, I seem to have 60 days in my head, but let me find the rule. Yes, rule 14 of the ...
"Cross-Party Groups will cease to be recognised 90 calendar days after the first meeting of the new Parliament … unless a fresh registration is made within t...
Tricia Marwick: SNP
Therefore any new rules that we introduce would need to be adopted by potential cross-party groups in 2003. That is useful.
The Convener: LD
The clerks now have the detail of all the points that were made, so we will press ahead with the review, which we hope to have completed by the end of the pa...
Meeting continued in private until 10:59.