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Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
24 May 2000
National Parks (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We have had extensive discussion of section 28; we now move on to talk about section 29—marine national parks.Scottish Natural Heritage admitted that marine national parks were not initially examined. Indeed, in her evidence to the Transport and the Environment Committee last ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
15 Nov 2001
School Education (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In contrast to many stage 1 speeches, those of this debate have confirmed that the School Education (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill should turn out to be a fairly straightforward piece of legislation, provided, as Mike Russell has said, that the Executive is prepared to listen and...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
24 Sep 2002
Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You are saying that there is a lack of guidance for employers, that there is no real procedure and that such cases will proceed without evidence. Is not some of that covered by current good practice? A person cannot be put on the list unless there is such concern about the ris...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
07 Sep 1999
Work Programme
The No 1 priority that we identified at the beginning was employment, poverty and housing, and—apart from our very good briefing—we have not had the opportunity to debate any of those issues. As the situation in the farming industry is causing an increase in unemployment and w...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
14 Mar 2002
Scottish Qualifications Authority Bill: Stage 1
There has been fairly general agreement this afternoon that the changes promoted will bring about the improvements that are necessary in the structure of the SQA, with a board that focuses on governance and management issues and an advisory council as a mechanism for participa...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
12 Feb 2003
Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am not rising to speak against amendment 1. In fact, the SNP will not oppose any of the amendments that have been lodged at stage 3.The stage 2 amendment to which the minister referred would have extended the duty to make a referral beyond registered child care agencies to a...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
12 Mar 2002
Education (Disability Strategies and Pupils' Records)<br />(Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 15 is in the same vein as amendment 14. It would ensure that the people to whom the strategies will be of most relevance know about them. It seeks to ensure that those people are issued with accessibility strategies. The committee expressed concern at stage 1 that th...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
12 Mar 2002
Education (Disability Strategies and Pupils' Records)<br />(Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 17 is very similar to amendment 16, except that it deletes one of its paragraphs. As the minister is aware, I fully support Jackie Baillie's comments about why we need some local, easily understandable mechanism. Parents do not really want to get into disputes with l...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
24 Sep 2002
Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is fair to say that your current responsibilities and, indeed, your organisation are fairly new and that things are still bedding down under the terms of the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001. You are being asked to do more at an early stage. How will the bill impact on ...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
20 Jun 2000
Transport (Scotland) Bill
In our letter to the Transport and the Environment Committee, we should indicate that we might wish to bring forward amendments at stage 2, depending on what that committee proposes in its stage 1 report.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Jul 2000
Reporters
All members should have a copy of the minute of the previous meeting. We are still pursuing the idea of an MSPs guide to the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 with Capability Scotland, which professes to be as confused as us about why such a document has not yet been made ava...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
05 Jul 2000
National Parks (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I wish to speak to and move amendment 26, in the name of Michael Russell. This amendment in support of Gaelic is part of a much wider approach to building and securing the language—a language that is spoken probably by fewer than 50,000 people in Scotland, but which is as much...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
07 Mar 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to raise several children's issues that have been identified by the Education, Culture and Sport Committee and by the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on children and young people. We welcome the bill's proposals, because children and other vulnerable people...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
17 May 2001
Special Educational Needs
I am neither the convener nor the vice-convener of the Education, Culture and Sport Committee, but it is my pleasant duty to introduce this report to the Parliament on the committee's behalf.The committee agreed in November 1999 that one of its earliest inquiries should focus ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
20 Sep 2001
Schools (Assessment)
This has been an interesting debate in which there has been considerable consensus about what constitutes the main issues.For the benefit of Murdo Fraser, I should point out that the SNP believes that education should be an enriching experience and process for young people—not...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
18 Apr 2002
Social Care Work Force (Development)
The second clause of the sentence to which the minister refers was "but very delayed". It is important to remember that.The fact is that the rest of the UK has long since announced its policy intentions and is progressing with its planning. In the meantime, Scotland has fallen...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
06 Mar 2003
Gaelic Language (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is with pleasure that I speak in support of Michael Russell's Gaelic Language (Scotland) Bill.The Gaelic language is in an extremely precarious position. That fact was confirmed—although we did not need it to be—by the recent census figures. The policy memorandum for the bi...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
02 Apr 2001
National Health Service (Tayside)
Paragraph 6.6 of the report says that the draft recovery plan that was submitted in November 1999 identified certain savings. However, the report adds:"Further efficiencies depended on proposals for changes in the delivery of clinical services which could not be implemented un...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will speak in favour of the view that Karen Gillon has expressed.Amendment 8 is ambiguous and imprecise. I would accept amendment 8 if it were a genuine Martini amendment—
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
That is right, but as it is not that kind of amendment, I cannot accept it.On amendment 9, Karen Gillon has comprehensively outlined the view that was taken by those of us who were involved in drawing up the bill. We feel that there are sufficient elements within the bill to a...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will underline that point. The bill is clear that an appointment—whether a first or a second appointment—is fully covered by section 2. Nomination by the Parliament is required and the appointments need not be consecutive—that is, a first appointment may have occurred five y...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I do not think that the commissioner needs a power of access. In the majority of cases, the commissioner would want to negotiate amicably with whomever, or with whatever agency, was under investigation. When there is sufficient concern to justify using such a power, others in ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
25 Oct 2000
School Exams
In setting out your recommendations, you rightly draw attention to your concern for young people. I am sure that everyone on the committee shares that concern. At what stage, though, would those recommendations need to be implemented to effect any improvement for students next...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
17 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will start where Jane Morgan finished, with the integration of services. Most people working in early-years education support the move towards integrated care and education. However, the requirement for separate inspections by HMI and the commission seems to undermine that a...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
17 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Could you expand on that last point?
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
17 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
While I accept the value of national standards and of an agreed framework that covers the whole country, some people are concerned that the commission will work from only five regional offices. How can you reassure those people that the local connection will be maintained? Loc...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
17 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Could you expand on that? You are correct that it is anticipated that a number of staff who currently are working for local authorities will transfer to the commission and continue their work. Are you implying that they will continue in the same office space? Will they continu...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
17 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The bill has provision for the commission to deal with any complaints about care services. In England and Wales, legislation on children's services has gone further and established a post of commissioner—or, in England's case, a children's rights director. That person's job is...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
17 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
But that would not have precluded it from being part of the bill, would it?
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
17 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am sure that we all support the view that we should not oppress providers unnecessarily by having all kinds of inspection. If the proposal in the bill stands, it will mean that HMI will inspect one year and the commission will inspect the following year, which means that the...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
17 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Could you set out ADES's understanding of the financial implications of the transfer of staff and responsibilities from local authorities? Local authorities will no longer carry out the process of registration and inspection, but they will be charged fairly substantial registr...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
17 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In your written evidence, you mention that you have some concern about the establishment of two new bodies—the commission and the council—and suggest that the work load might be combined. Can you expand on that?
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I notice that one of the first issues that you mention in your paper concerns the proposed age range. If the range goes from nought to 16 years, your organisation will have some concerns about ratios, which have been contentious. Childminders are allowed to look after six chil...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That was going to be my next question.How would we resolve that? Everybody accepts that the absence of protection in the care of children aged eight to 16 has been a shortfall in legislation. We therefore welcome the fact that it is being proposed. What does the SCMA believe i...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There has been a move towards increasing the integration of child care and education, which everyone welcomes, yet the intentions in the bill are that the commission would inspect at least every year, that HM inspectors of schools would also come along with periodic inspection...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you think that we could move to one body being responsible—
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I understand that after-school activities that are wholly or mainly conducted in schools are exempt.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
After-school clubs would be regulated, as they are at the moment.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Some small nurseries operate in private homes. As Maggie Simpson said, sometimes childminders work with assistants. Is there enough clarity between those types of arrangement, which both take place in domestic premises? The number of children being cared for could be exactly t...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I just wondered whether there was enough clarity about the way in which childminders would be regulated. They provide a different service, but it may be difficult for the ordinary parent to see why a service in one house is run under childminding regulations while one in anoth...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You will know that local authority pre-school and nursery provision currently requires a qualified teacher. The bill will replace that requirement with guidance that a teacher should be involved in pre-school education and will extend that guidance to all such provision. What ...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So you would continue with that principle.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am sure that you are right. I have another question about teachers and their roles. All teachers are registered with the General Teaching Council for Scotland. If they are involved in a pre-school care environment, it is likely that they will have to register with the Scotti...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I suspect that some form of process will be involved in registering them with the new Scottish social services council.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, that was the point of my question. Likewise, managers may have to register if they manage provision that offers care and education.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
23 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In your written submission, you had a query in relation to "The Way Forward for Care" about how independent schools would be affected by having to ensure that services are managed on a sound financial footing. Could you expand on that? Have your concerns been alleviated by the...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
30 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have a supplementary question. You have much experience in social work—my experience is only half the length of yours. I share your concerns, but is not the problem that the provisions for young people in the 1995 act have not been as assiduously implemented as they might ha...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
30 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am sure that many members and those in the child care world support your comments on the children's commissioner. I understand how a commissioner for children, attached to the bill, might do a lot for the young people with whom you work, because they are all in care. However...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
30 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You are putting forward a good argument as to why foster carers should be entered on the work force register, but you are not suggesting that foster carers register as a care service with the commission.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
30 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Will you comment on that? I understand that foster care agencies will be required to do that.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
30 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Your submission mentions the plans to extend the authority to pay grants to voluntary organisations. Do you foresee any difficulties with that in the context of the social funding that you receive?
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
30 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have a final question on training, which we discussed earlier. The vast majority of playgroup workers do not hold a professional qualification, although many of them—like foster carers—would like to. The same issues arise as for foster carers, concerning appropriate training...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
13 Feb 2001
National Stadium
That leads me to my second point. It seems to have been difficult for any agency properly to get to grips with the level of underfunding or the funding gap at any stage in the development of the project. You described the Millennium Commission as not knowing what the future he...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
03 Apr 2001
Children's Commissioner
Committee members will be aware that we have also commissioned research into consultation with young people and that we are now at the stage of bringing that to a conclusion and writing a final report. Some of us think that the children's commissioner inquiry and the outcome o...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
18 Sep 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
I totally agree with that, and I can suggest another reason why there is a gap in the evidence from young people themselves and young people's organisations. We have always referred to a children's commissioner, but there may be some doubt about the age range that we are talki...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
15 Jan 2002
Scottish Ballet Inquiry
Will you expand on that point a little? You concede that productions such as "The Snowman" have been successful. You said at the start of your evidence that such productions would always have a place in Scottish Ballet's repertoire. Given that "The Snowman" is bringing in a po...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
22 Jan 2002
Education (Disability Strategies and Pupils' Records)<br />(Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The minister will be aware that, although many local authorities welcome the general principles of the bill, they are concerned about its financial implications. I would like to ask about pre-school provision outwith school premises, which is a very welcome part of the bill. L...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
22 Jan 2002
Education (Disability Strategies and Pupils' Records)<br />(Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That would be fine. Thank you.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
22 Jan 2002
Education (Disability Strategies and Pupils' Records)<br />(Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I note your comments about associated services and extra-curricular activities. Were you reassured by any of the minister's comments, or do you still think that there is a need for clarification and the inclusion of those activities?
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
22 Jan 2002
Education (Disability Strategies and Pupils' Records)<br />(Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to ask a bit more about the section in your written submission on how the accessibility strategy could connect to other planning requirements. What is the minimum that needs to be done to provide cohesion? Why do you think that the Executive did not attempt to provide s...
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Chamber

Plenary, 24 May 2000

24 May 2000 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
National Parks (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
McGugan, Irene SNP North East Scotland Watch on SPTV
We have had extensive discussion of section 28; we now move on to talk about section 29—marine national parks.

Scottish Natural Heritage admitted that marine national parks were not initially examined. Indeed, in her evidence to the Transport and the Environment Committee last year, the Minister for Transport and the Environment accepted that the bill would be targeted at a terrestrial concept. Section 29 is, therefore, something of an afterthought that has been tacked on in response to public consultation on the draft bill and, I suggest, without proper thought to the issues around marine parks.

Not surprisingly, a number of reservations about section 29 were expressed to the Rural Affairs Committee. In particular, the Scottish Fishermen's Federation felt that insufficient information had been provided to allow an informed debate on marine national parks at this stage. The federation felt that it was difficult adequately to address fundamental issues such as the purpose of marine national parks, the areas in which it is appropriate to establish marine national parks and whether there is a need for them in Scotland. Evidence overseas suggests that marine parks are usually established to protect areas of outstanding marine species diversity, a good example being the barrier reef. Further clarification is required to allay the concerns of fishermen about a further tier of regulation on top of the complexities of existing marine legislation.

Many organisations envisage marine national parks with a strong terrestrial connection. Some concern was expressed that the phrase "wholly or mainly" might preclude the flexibility of applying section 29 to areas that are mainly land, but have a component of sea. While the SNP believes that the concept of marine national parks is important and that some coastal communities might wish eventually to explore it, at this stage public debate has focused on terrestrial parks and it is vital that there is equitable application of any benefits of national park designation.

We strongly recommend further consultation with the likely users and competent authorities and much more detailed consideration of the network of existing legislation and the complexities of designating and managing a marine national park so that appropriate amendments that more adequately include marine interests can be lodged at stage 2.

The Rural Affairs Committee also considered local representation in some detail. That was appropriate since in the responses to the first consultation that was the area that was most commented on. Sixty-four per cent of respondents called either for direct elections or for more local representation. Serious problems have been encountered in national parks elsewhere as a consequence of failure to involve local people. A sense of local ownership must be created and nurtured and local communities in designated national park areas must be given the opportunity to play a major role in planning and managing their park at strategic and local levels.

The SNP advocates a firmer commitment to including community representatives on park authorities rather than leaving that to chance through local authority nomination or appointment by ministers. In evidence to committees there was overwhelming agreement that local interests must be adequately represented on national park authorities. The means by which that is to be achieved is open to further discussion and amendment, but community involvement must be guaranteed and we urge the Minister for Transport and the Environment to give that serious consideration.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Sir David Steel): NPA
The next item of business is motion S1M-770, in the name of Sarah Boyack, on the general principles of the National Parks (Scotland) Bill. Many more members ...
The Deputy Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning (Nicol Stephen): LD
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am delighted to have the opportunity to open today's debate on the general principles of the National Parks (Scotland) Bill. ...
Mr Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD): LD
Highland Council has some concerns about what is being proposed. The minister mentioned people and sustainability. Does he share my belief that it is importa...
Nicol Stephen: LD
I share the general concern and I assure Mr Stone that we will return to that issue at stage 2. I know that getting that balance right is key to the success ...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness East, Nairn and Lochaber) (SNP): SNP
Does the minister accept that, for national parks to succeed, it is essential that they enjoy the backing and support of the communities that live and work i...
Nicol Stephen: LD
Although I agree with Fergus Ewing's first point about the support and involvement of people in the area, I do not think that a referendum is the correct way...
Mr Murray Tosh (South of Scotland) (Con): Con
Will the minister give way?
Nicol Stephen: LD
I want to make some progress.The Rural Affairs Committee also raised the question of marine national parks. Scotland has a rich and varied coast, and during ...
Richard Lochhead (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP
Will the minister give way?
Nicol Stephen: LD
I will explain the point a little more and then give way to the member.The idea of wholly marine parks emerged relatively late on. As we did not want to excl...
Richard Lochhead: SNP
The minister has actually answered the question that I was going to put.
The Presiding Officer: NPA
In that case, you do not need to put it. Laughter.
Nicol Stephen: LD
Thank you.The membership of national park authorities will be crucial to their success. The Rural Affairs Committee makes it clear that local representation ...
Mr Mike Rumbles (West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine) (LD): LD
Will the minister give way?
Nicol Stephen: LD
Although I am just about to close, I will give way.
Mr Rumbles: LD
I notice that the minister is moving away from the point about representation on park boards. As he recognised, 64 per cent of the respondents were dissatisf...
Nicol Stephen: LD
Earlier, I drew attention to the Rural Affairs Committee, making clear its view that local representation on park authorities should be guaranteed. In my nex...
The Presiding Officer: NPA
I am grateful to the minister for taking my hint about using less than the allotted time.
Linda Fabiani (Central Scotland) (SNP): SNP
Today we are debating the bill that will enable national parks for Scotland. The Scottish National party believes that the aims of the bill should apply to t...
Alasdair Morgan (Galloway and Upper Nithsdale) (SNP): SNP
There is something about the Conservative party, you mean—it is in a state of collapse. Laughter.
Linda Fabiani: SNP
I will move on.The number of advisory groups and committees to be established will be determined by the park authorities. The number of advisory groups and c...
Alex Johnstone (North-East Scotland) (Con): Con
I apologise, Presiding Officer, for any damage that may have been done to the equipment when I knocked my microphone off my lectern. As convener of the Rural...
Mr Rumbles: LD
Always cautious.
Alex Johnstone: Con
I am always cautious. The bill represents an opportunity to restore Scotland's natural heritage to a prominent place in Scottish society. Section 1(3) sets o...
Lewis Macdonald (Aberdeen Central) (Lab): Lab
In the 1940s, Tom Johnston, the Glasgow socialist who was Secretary of State for Scotland in our previous coalition Government, commissioned a report from Lo...
Fergus Ewing: SNP
Does the member agree that the definition of the Sandford principle set out in section 8 of the bill is opaque and virtually meaningless? Given that, if ther...
Lewis Macdonald: Lab
That is a important question, which the Rural Affairs Committee—of which I am a member—considered very carefully. We came to the view that both section 1 and...
Mr Keith Raffan (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD): LD
I agree with what the Deputy Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning said in his opening remarks. At long last—50 years late—Scotland is to get nationa...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab): Lab
It gives me great pleasure to speak—not as a minister, I hasten to add, but as someone with a special constituency interest—in support of the National Parks ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP
We have had extensive discussion of section 28; we now move on to talk about section 29—marine national parks.Scottish Natural Heritage admitted that marine ...