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Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
12 Dec 2002
Children and Young People (Services)
Robert Brown should be aware that redefining poverty does not make the least bit of difference. All those children are in poverty in Scotland today and little has been done to alleviate the situation. It seemed appropriate to focus on youth justice and child protection in the ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
09 Jan 2002
Scottish Executive's Priorities
The fact is that after two and a half years of new Labour and Liberal Government here in Scotland—just as after almost five years of new Labour Government in the UK—very little has been delivered. The losers are not just the people of this country, whose trust and support has ...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
06 Dec 2001
Youth Justice System
I thank the minister for her intervention, but I must underline my point. I am sure that she is aware that applications for UK postgraduate social work courses have fallen alarmingly, from more than 9,000 in 1995 to under 5,000 last year. Vacant posts are a serious concern for...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
02 Sep 1999
National Cultural Strategy
I congratulate the Executive on initiating this debate at such an early stage in our programme. The advent of the Scottish Parliament should itself mark a new phase in the confidence of Scotland's culture. I have no such confidence that the document under discussion today will...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
25 Oct 2001
National Cultural Strategy
There has been no evidence of progress on the majority of the key pledges and this report confirms that there is no evidence of progress in the majority of key priority areas. Today, we are discussing an outline of what various agencies are doing in certain sectors. They are i...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
14 Nov 2002
National Cultural Strategy
Mike Russell gave the reasons why he looks forward to debates on the national cultural strategy. I am just grateful that the ministerial reshuffle means that we will not have to suffer Allan Wilson's painful poetic efforts this year—unless Elaine Murray intends to burst into s...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
02 Dec 1999
Equalities
Scottish women are looking to the Scottish Parliament to make real and practical improvements to their lives—I emphasise that these must be real and practical improvements. Despite the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 and the Equal Pay Act 1970, women and girls still experience con...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
29 Jun 2000
Agriculture Strategy
As the Minister for Rural Affairs is aware, the Rural Affairs Committee is concluding an inquiry into changing employment patterns in rural areas. Our findings are fairly similar to those of other studies of the current economic structure of rural areas: not only is there an o...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
07 Sep 2000
Scots and Gaelic
I will start by declaring an interest, in that I am the very recently appointed preses of the Scots Leid Associe.The first part of the motion calls on the Executive to ensure that Scots and Gaelic are eligible for inclusion in the European year of languages. I can confirm that...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2000
Sport
I welcome the opportunity to speak to the motion in my name. I also welcome Allan Wilson to what I understand is the first debate in which he will participate since his appointment as Deputy Minister for Sport and Culture.The SNP acknowledges the role that sport plays in the l...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
03 May 2001
Rural Scotland<br />(Employment Patterns)
It was at its second meeting, on 29 June 1999, with 38 possible topics identified, that the Rural Affairs Committee agreed that the first priority for investigation was employment, housing and poverty. In the face of the undoubted crises facing every sector of the traditional ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
04 Jul 2000
“Towards an Equality Strategy”
I accept that the consultation paper is an Executive paper and that the Executive will present the responses to the Parliament. However, the first of your three overriding aims about promotion of equal opportunities and integration of equality is that the Executive as an emplo...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
09 Mar 2000
Census (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On behalf of the Scottish National party, I confirm that we welcome the amendment to the Census Act 1920 to enable a question or questions on religion to be asked in the next census in Scotland. It is reassuring that the bill makes it clear that the criminal penalties for not ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
25 Sep 2002
Proposed Commissioner for Children and Young People Bill
I suggest that the first line of the proposed bill should read, "There shall be a Scottish commissioner for children and young people". For some folk, this development is only slightly less significant than the establishment of the Parliament.The establishment of the post of c...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
09 Jan 2003
Child Protection Review
From the outset, I say that we welcome the review and its recommendations. It can only be good that the issue is being debated and addressed at a national level.However, we have to ensure that this opportunity to tackle the problems in child protection brings about real and la...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
12 Feb 2003
Education
On Saturday, The Herald contained an interesting article that reported on a study that was funded by the Economic and Social Research Council, which showed that people in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are broadly disappointed with the impact of devolution. However, that...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
07 Sep 2000
Scots and Gaelic
Indeed.In relation to Scots, there is a loss of confidence as a result of lack of official and public use and a loss of its vocabulary and distinctive grammar due to lack of teaching. I count myself as a casualty of that. Yet most of us in lowland Scotland are not far away fro...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
27 Sep 2000
The Creative Economy
I agree with the minister that the debate provides an ideal opportunity for the creative industries to be properly acknowledged by the Parliament and recognised as an integral part of Scotland's knowledge economy.The starting point must be education and the development of tale...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
24 May 2001
School Swimming Lessons
I shall expand on Kay Ullrich's comments about Aberdeen City Council's findings in its review of swimming pools and swimming activity over the past year or two. The issue of swimming competence in different parts of the city caused some concern. Initial assessment highlighted ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
13 Sep 2001
Children (Physical Chastisement)
This has been a good debate which has made it clear that all members are genuinely concerned about the welfare of children. There are differences of opinion, of course, but they are not necessarily of a party-political nature. It is no secret that my views are similar to those...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
04 Oct 2001
Sports Promotion in Schools
I am sorry; I must get on.PE in the curriculum is just the starting point. If we want children to develop their talent for and enjoyment of a particular activity or sport, there must be—as Kenny Gibson pointed out—an opportunity for them to do so outwith the school day. The Mc...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
26 Feb 2003
Looked-after Children (Education)
I am in my final seconds. We recognise that if social workers and teachers work together, they will deliver a better outcome for children. There is an implication in some of the Executive's statements that, somehow, local authorities are wilfully not complying, but I have no d...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
That is right, but as it is not that kind of amendment, I cannot accept it.On amendment 9, Karen Gillon has comprehensively outlined the view that was taken by those of us who were involved in drawing up the bill. We feel that there are sufficient elements within the bill to a...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
18 Sep 2001
Public Petition: East of Scotland Supporters Association
Activists and organisations have been conducting a long-running campaign to establish in Scotland something similar to the suggestion in the petition and the facility that exists in England and Wales. The Deputy Minister for Sport, the Arts and Culture has been lobbied extensi...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
12 Feb 2002
Petition
I was a little disappointed by the response. First, it has taken a long time to come to us. During that time, thousands more pupils have been denied technological studies. I understand that the course is now off the curriculum in most west of Scotland schools and that the numb...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
25 Feb 2003
New Petitions
I whole-heartedly endorse the suggestion that, in view of the recent announcement, we raise the issue of funding with the Scottish Executive. As I understand it, the issues that the committee has raised with the Executive on the previous petitions have centred more on the adeq...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
02 Nov 2000
National Cultural Strategy
I shall begin by expanding on a point that Michael Russell and others have made. Of the 64 pledges that were made in the national cultural strategy document, 39 are non-specific. The remaining 25 are meaningless, including the pledge to"Ensure that the potential contribution o...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
15 Feb 2001
Children's Services
The minister will have noted that the SNP has lodged no amendment to the motion, because we fully endorse all aspects of it and because I truly believe that there should and can be much agreement on children's issues. I am pleased that we are having the debate, even though it ...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
15 Feb 2001
Children's Services
The basic determinants of a children's commissioner's remit should be the promotion of children's rights, the challenge of any breaches of children's rights and an influence on law, policy and practice—that takes in everything I have mentioned.On the concept of child impact st...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
21 Mar 2001
Scottish Berry Project
Dr Ewing is absolutely right—I will say a bit more about raspberries later.About three years ago, a group from Tayside visited Finland to see at first hand how the Finns had advanced their project. Enthused by their findings, that coalition of health and agricultural experts p...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
17 May 2001
Special Educational Needs
I am neither the convener nor the vice-convener of the Education, Culture and Sport Committee, but it is my pleasant duty to introduce this report to the Parliament on the committee's behalf.The committee agreed in November 1999 that one of its earliest inquiries should focus ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
20 Sep 2001
Juvenile Justice
I say to the Conservative party that society, not the children's hearing system, is, in the words of that party's motion, "manifestly failing to deal with criminal and offending behaviour".Youth offenders are young people with problems. We are failing to deal effectively with ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
28 Mar 2002
Education (Disability Strategies and Pupils' Educational Records) (Scotland) Bill
Although the bill is a relatively short and fairly technical piece of legislation, it has the potential to improve significantly the situation for many of the estimated 15,000 children and young people in Scotland with disabilities.We welcome the fact that from September of th...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
24 Apr 2002
UN Children's Summit
It is appropriate at this moment to welcome Ellen Leaver, who is in the gallery tonight, and to wish her very good wishes from all of us in the Scottish Parliament on her mission to New York.The UN special summit will address a global agenda and action plan, but that plan will...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
01 May 2002
Youth Participation
Although this is the end of the debate, I would like to highlight a very useful starting point for this subject: the need for all those who are involved with children and young people to recognise that participation is a fundamental right of citizenship. That would indicate th...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
12 Jun 2002
Participation in Sport
Once again, we have experienced a constructive debate on sport and a fair degree of consensus has been achieved. There seems to be broad agreement on the issues and on what needs to be done about them. I hope that the minister will take every opportunity to act on the issues t...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
27 Jun 2002
Community Regeneration
I am sure that no one would take issue with the statement that people need the core services of health, education, transport, jobs and crime prevention for a decent quality of life and well-being. However, all over Scotland, concerned people are at their wit's end because they...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
11 Dec 2002
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In my brief speech, I will focus on the issues that affect children and young people. Many of the concerns that I will describe were raised by children's organisations in evidence and were further debated at a meeting of the cross-party group on children and young people.First...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
12 Dec 2002
Children and Young People (Services)
I start with a quotation that is at the heart of the Executive's programme:"Ensuring every young person gets the best possible start in life."I am sure no one in the chamber disagrees with that worthy aspiration. However, we are concerned that too many of Scotland's vulnerable...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
26 Mar 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill
Anyone who needs to be convinced of the varied nature of the legislation that the Parliament is passing could do worse than look at our business programme for this afternoon. In the space of an hour or two, we have considered the Council of the Law Society of Scotland Bill, th...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
13 Feb 2001
National Stadium
Just over a year ago, Queen's Park applied to the court to appoint interim managers as part of the administration process. It has been suggested by the Scottish Executive and others that that process increased the project's costs. The Executive's submission says that there was...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
27 Mar 2001
Sport and Culture in Scotland
I agree with almost everything that Blair Young has said; I applaud what was set out in the submission and what he has outlined to us today.Is Blair Young aware that, in recent weeks, ministers have expressed firm views about some of the issues that he talked about? For instan...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
08 Jan 2002
Scottish Borders Inquiry
I will ask more about the recovery plan. You have said that you and Mike Ewart have met Borders Council several times. Can you give us more details? Were those meetings at the invitation of Borders Council or were they initiated by the Executive? Was the intention specifically...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
21 Jan 2003
Gaelic Language (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I would like to expand on what Jackie Baillie said about the gap between what the Executive feels and what the bill proposes. Your written evidence is clear that the Government's commitments include working towards secure status for Gaelic. Will you say clearly for the Officia...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
25 Apr 2000
Reporters
The group met just before the recess, on 4 April. We are still following up the evidence given by the Disabled Persons Housing Service and we will consider a draft report at our next meeting. Robert Brown has lodged a motion that encompasses many of the issues that were raised...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
19 Dec 2000
Reporters
I have submitted a paper.The most significant point is to report on a meeting that we had with Lilian Lawson from the Scottish Council on Deafness. We discussed several issues, including equality training in the Parliament. We agreed that in producing a strategy for equality t...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
19 Dec 2000
New Petitions
There were free berries everywhere in Finland. In every public building and even in commercial buildings such as airports, bowls of fruit were freely available. In restaurants, whether they are ordered or not, a plate of little berries will be served. The project is big. There...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
07 Oct 1999
Agriculture (Agenda 2000)
I will talk about aspects of the issue that do not always have sufficient prominence in discussions on agriculture in Scotland: the environmental protection requirements and agri-environment measures. Today in Scotland we must manage the environment in a way which, crucially, ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
04 Nov 1999
Agriculture and Rural Affairs
According to the definition of deprivation in the 1991 census, there are some 46,000 multiply deprived and 2,500 severely deprived households in rural Scotland. Those households comprise elderly, sick and unemployed people, and single- parent, large and low-income families. Ru...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
24 Nov 1999
Land Reform
Current land reform proposals encompass a wide range of issues, from national parks to landlord- tenant relationships and from feudal reform to access rights. I wish to concentrate on access rights. Few people will aspire to own or to manage land, but the majority will seek ac...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
25 May 2000
“Rural Scotland: A New Approach”
I accept that. The point I am trying to make is that we have known for a very long time that we need to do that.In closing, I would like to give the minister one example of an excellent community initiative—such as the one that is promoted in the Executive's document—that has ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
15 Jun 2000
Early Education and Child Care
I would welcome an indication from the minister about the extent to which he believes accessibility in child care has been achieved, as distinct from reiterating the funding that he has targeted at the child care strategy.In rural areas, accessibility is still some way from re...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
22 Jun 2000
Question Time · Skye Bridge
Given that Europe's most senior legal officer claimed that Britain is breaching European Union regulations by failing to levy VAT on the bridge tolls, I trust that the minister will concede that there is more than a fair chance that VAT will be applied. Campaigners claim that ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
08 Nov 2000
Equality Strategy
Like other SNP members, I am disappointed that, although the strategy is aspirational, it is not practical. As the minister said, there are opportunities for the Parliament to promote equality meaningfully every time we initiate new legislation. The problem is that I do not th...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
15 Feb 2001
Education
No.The Executive needs to allay anxiety among our teachers and parents and make it clear that such policies have no place in Scotland. We want an absolute assurance that those policies will not find their way into Scotland. We have not had such an assurance.It is the SNP's vie...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
04 Apr 2001
Looked-after Children and Adoption Services
I am happy to agree on that. I hope that all those routes will be fully considered in the review of policy and legislation. Two important facts emerge from research and practice over recent years. First, around 50 per cent of children who are now being placed for adoption come...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
04 Apr 2001
Looked-after Children and Adoption Services
This has been a useful debate in which to tease out and explore the many current issues around adoption.On the sections of the Adoption and Children Bill that relate to Scotland, there has been no disagreement on the need to take action. The Kilshaw internet adoption case high...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
26 Apr 2001
Rural Transport
I want to highlight some difficulties experienced by residents in rural Aberdeenshire. On 29 February this year, Stagecoach Bluebird made a number of service changes. Translated, that means that, with minimal notice, it withdrew buses from dozens of routes. It was readily conc...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
24 May 2001
Education
I thank everyone who has contributed to this debate. I find it strange to be accused of electioneering. I remind members that education is a devolved matter, and therefore a wholly legitimate issue for discussion in the Scottish Parliament at any time. It is a truism that the ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
31 May 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I particularly welcome amendment 6, which allows for the inclusion of child care agencies. Many people involved in child care were concerned that their omission would mean that nanny agencies would be omitted from the relevant regulations. We appreciate the difficulties in try...
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Plenary, 12 Dec 2002

12 Dec 2002 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Children and Young People (Services)
McGugan, Irene SNP North East Scotland Watch on SPTV
Robert Brown should be aware that redefining poverty does not make the least bit of difference. All those children are in poverty in Scotland today and little has been done to alleviate the situation.

It seemed appropriate to focus on youth justice and child protection in the debate, following the publication of three recent reports—the child protection review, the youth justice audit and the report into children's hearings. Those are well-researched, evidence-based documents, and I am pleased that the Executive's amendment seems to indicate that it will take on board the recommendations that have been made. That is perhaps a more gracious and considered response than that of the First Minister to the child protection review.

Both of the substantial reports that deal with youth offending call for a specific commitment of resources to supply services to tackle offending behaviour—we have been calling for that since 1997. Less than 40 per cent of youth justice spend is directed at tackling offending behaviour; the remainder is spent on prosecution and the decision-making process. I agree with the recommendation that the Executive should review whether there should be a shift in that balance. As with poverty, the Scottish Executive has promised much but delivered little. We have had an advisory group report on youth crime, but we never got the promised national strategy on youth crime. We now have an action plan on youth crime, but there has not been much action so far.

Some of my colleagues will discuss youth justice further, but I want to move on to mention child protection services, where there is clear evidence of increased need and pressure on diminished resources. Ever-increasing numbers of children are being placed on child protection registers. Last year, about 7,000 cases were referred to social workers, resulting in 2,018 children being placed on child protection registers—an increase on the previous year. The findings of the child protection audit and review confirmed that some children were indeed falling through the net. Half of all children at risk of abuse or neglect were not properly protected, and of the 188 cases examined, 40 children were not protected and a further 62 were only partially protected. Children's needs were judged to have been met well in just 24 cases. No one can be satisfied with that.

I welcome the reports' recommendations and hope that the Executive will move speedily to implement them. Although a number of the recommendations refer to child protection committees and make various suggestions for improvement, I would like to add one more suggestion for the minister's consideration. I suggest that those committees should have a statutory basis. That would instantly award them increased status and would be much more reflective of the important role that they play in child protection. It would also mean that they would be better resourced and would deliver a uniformly high-quality service throughout the country. That is something that we all want, and I would be interested to hear the minister's views on that.

At the launch of the child protection review, the First Minister decided to act tough—not tough on the causes of the crisis, but tough only on child protection social workers. The review offers substantial evidence that good and effective work is being done by the agencies involved. However, rather than acknowledge their achievement and encourage them to build on and improve it, the First Minister attempted to shift the blame for the acute crisis in children's services on to the services. At a time when professionals urgently need support from the Government, his response was to pass the buck, deride the front-line professionals and undermine his Executive's recruitment campaign.

I will briefly consider that recruitment campaign, which was called "care in Scotland" and billed as a major investment by the Executive to raise the profile of social care and attract people into the sector. The campaign lasted for four weeks and probably passed unnoticed by most MSPs. Four weeks is a short time to turn round a situation that has been developing for the best part of a decade, during which staffing has collapsed from 40,000 to 34,000 and many have opted to leave the sector entirely or to switch to work in the voluntary sector to escape bureaucracy and crushing work loads. The advertisements focused on social care in general, although the pressing need is to attract people into front-line children's services. Perhaps resources could have been better targeted.

Tackling the poor public image of social work goes only part of the way to solving the problems. The British Association of Social Workers has said that many potential recruits are deterred by the lack of an attractive career structure, enormous work loads and a lack of financial recognition for demanding work. As yet, there has been no action to tackle those issues.

Regardless of the success or otherwise of the campaign—even with those flaws—the First Minister's derisory and threatening comments to those in child protection damaged the campaign and further demoralised those who are trying to protect children in increasingly difficult circumstances. Such an approach completely negates the serious staffing and resource issues that exist. The child protection review found that outcomes for children were highly dependent on social work doing well and maintained that social work plays the most instrumental role in child protection. Unfortunately, there is nothing in the recommendations of the child protection audit and review that will tackle head-on, or even indirectly, the appalling lack of resources—particularly staffing—that departments are experiencing.

I want to consider funding. While the Executive increases ring-fenced spending on the changing children's services fund, for example, to promote better integration of services—a perfectly commendable aim that the SNP supports—core funding for children and families services is grossly neglected. The Association of Directors of Social Work undertook an analysis of the budget spend on children's services in social work in Scotland for 1999-2000, which indicated that local authorities planned to spend £324 million on children's services. That was more than a third more—36 per cent, in fact, or £85 million—than the total provided in grant-aided expenditure. Average spend above GAE on children's services by local authorities in 2001-02 was 45 per cent, with 10 local authorities spending more than 100 per cent above GAE. That issue was also mentioned in the Audit Scotland report, which recommended that the Executive should address the inconsistencies between GAE and budgets.

I now turn to recruitment and retention. The latest Executive statistics show that an average of 10.7 per cent of children and families social work posts throughout Scotland are vacant. In the year 2000-01, when Jack McConnell was in charge of children's issues, there was an 8 per cent rise in the number of children referred to local authorities for child protection. At the same time, the number of vacancies for field social workers working with children more than doubled.

An SNP survey of local authorities in the summer of 2001 highlighted the recruitment issues and called for a McCrone-style review of pay and conditions. We carried out a quick update of the situation for this debate and received 18 responses within days. The minister will be interested to know that 17 of the 18 local authorities that responded think that the situation has worsened in the past 15 to 18 months. Current vacancies within child care teams are as high as 50 per cent in some areas; in many cases, no applications are received for advertised vacant posts. Teams that have achieved their full staffing complement think that doing so is a short-term solution at the expense of other local authorities. All are forced into a bidding war for graduates. One local authority stated that

"any council's success is another council's deepening problem."

Many authorities think that the move to integrated services, although welcome, resulted in staff leaving the front line, as pay and conditions are better in initiatives such as the community schools initiative and sure start. The Executive needs to appreciate that it is relatively easy to put resources into children's services, but that staff are needed if services are to continue to be delivered. In some local authority areas, there are hundreds of unallocated cases.

Most local authorities think that the introduction of the four-year degree would exacerbate the staffing problem in the medium term and would reduce options for mature students who wish to enter the profession. Many local authorities call for Executive-funded training places for existing staff. Most important, there are calls for a clear national strategy and for better recognition from the Executive.

I will quote some comments that we received. One local authority said:

"in the absence of a national strategy, the current problems are being exacerbated by local authorities competing against each other for scarce resources".

Another noted:

"I feel the Executive missed an opportunity to begin to address this at the publication of the recent child protection review. Instead it emphasised the failings of the system and in effect was a catalogue of reasons why childcare"

social work

"is a job you would not recommend".

Another said:

"we know from speaking to students and graduates that the final remuneration for"

social workers,

"the perceived lack of status and media criticism of the work, make it an unattractive option compared with other professions".

Finally, one authority said:

"the lengthy time-scale taken to provide new opportunities for training in social work has caused major confusion and a lack of confidence in the profession".

It should be remembered that those are not the SNP's criticisms of the Executive and the lack of progress, although plenty of grounds for such criticism exist. Those are comments from the workers who are most affected.

It is patent that the roll-out of the Executive's action plan for social services must step up a gear and be more targeted if it is to begin to address the severe recruitment and retention problems in child care and in social work as a whole. One of the plan's flaws is that it does not address pay and conditions. Hardly anybody wants to do front-line child protection work. We must make it more attractive, and conditions of service are key to achieving that.

It is interesting that both youth justice reports confirm the staffing crisis in criminal justice and children's services social work and note a lack of staff to deal with young offenders. Many children are not allocated a social worker and do not receive the supervision that they need to stop them offending. That is the issue. I am not just making a plea for better wages for social workers; every one of the hundreds of unallocated cases means that a vulnerable child is not receiving the support that he or she needs when he or she is most in need.

We need more urgent action and supportive leadership from the Executive to help to solve the acute crisis in the recruitment and retention of social workers for children and families. We suggest a review of pay and conditions and proper resourcing of integrated children's services to halt the drain of workers from the front line of child protection to the other initiatives that have more funding or better conditions.

The BASW recommends a career structure that keeps good-quality, front-line staff at the front line; strategic planning in the short and long term following the introduction of the new degree; and political and economic backing for a work force that is asked to work on some of society's most difficult issues.

The question for the Executive is whether enough has been done to prevent people from leaving the work force early and to attract young people into a rewarding and challenging career. To achieve a confident and competent work force, more is needed than tinkering, golden hellos and career grades that are linked to greater work loads. Staff need to feel valued and rewarded for their work.

I turn to the two amendments to the motion. The Executive does not like to take on board ideas and suggestions from other parties, but simply rewording the SNP's motion and presenting that as the Executive's amendment is a bit of a discredit to the Parliament. It is much to be regretted that the Tories cannot rise above the hang-'em-and-flog-'em mentality that lost them much ground when they were last in power and which will continue to lose them friends and voters now.

Services for children and young people are struggling to cope, so they are not meeting their young clients' needs. The common features are a failure to deal with poverty and disadvantage and a shortage of resources—particularly staffing. Until those matters are adequately addressed, services will remain unsatisfactory.

The First Minister said recently:

"If, in the twenty-first century, government in Scotland cannot protect children who are in the most vulnerable of circumstances then government in Scotland does not deserve to exist."

If he meant that, he ought to recognise his own and his Government's abject failure and step down.

I move,

That the Parliament commends the recent reports into children's services of the Child Protection Audit and Review, It's everyone's job to make sure I'm alright, Audit Scotland, Dealing with offending by young people and the Scottish Committee of the Council on Tribunals, Special Report on the Children's Hearings System; notes in particular the references to the need to address urgently the crisis in the recruitment and retention of social workers; urges the Scottish Executive to give serious consideration to this matter and to the other recommendations in the reports and to act upon them; agrees that, when implemented, the recommendations would offer substantial improvements to the services for our most vulnerable children and young people; recommends bringing forward legislation to provide a statutory basis for child protection committees thereby ensuring increased status and resources and uniformly high quality services across the country, and recognises the need for the Scottish Executive to tackle once and for all the underlying social problems which disfigure our nation by limiting the chances of Scottish children, too many of whom continue to live in poverty.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Sir David Steel): NPA
Good morning. Our first item of business is a debate on motion S1M-3698, in the name of Irene McGugan, on children's and young people's services in Scotland....
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I start with a quotation that is at the heart of the Executive's programme:"Ensuring every young person gets the best possible start in life."I am sure no on...
Robert Brown (Glasgow) (LD): LD
If Irene McGugan accepts that there is a link between poverty and children in need, would she care to comment on the difference between absolute poverty, whi...
Irene McGugan: SNP
Robert Brown should be aware that redefining poverty does not make the least bit of difference. All those children are in poverty in Scotland today and littl...
The Minister for Education and Young People (Cathy Jamieson): Lab
I acknowledge that, although the Scottish National Party motion and our amendment are not identical, they cover a lot of the same ground. That was meant to h...
Michael Russell (South of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I take the minister back to the issue of child poverty. Given what she has said, the minister presumably rebuts entirely the report of the Joseph Rowntree Fo...
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
I will not set myself against the Joseph Rowntree Foundation. As Michael Russell will know, another report was published by the foundation this morning, whic...
Scott Barrie (Dunfermline West) (Lab): Lab
Does the minister agree that, although in some local authorities the number of vacancies for social work is unacceptably high, there was never a golden era o...
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
A number of other members worked in the same area of social work in which I worked. None of us would recall that time as a golden age of social work. We reca...
Irene McGugan: SNP
I accept all of what the minister said about the number of people on courses increasing and the number of social workers increasing, but why then did 17 of t...
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
In a sense, Irene McGugan answered that question in her speech. She will know that the situation has not arisen overnight. There has been a lack of work-forc...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con
In many respects, the Executive is failing Scotland's children and the Scottish National Party has suggested few reasoned or reasonable alternatives. In a th...
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Bill Aitken: Con
Give me a minute. In an intervention, Mr Russell highlighted the content of some of the reports that have been produced. It might have been advantageous for ...
Michael Russell: SNP
I do not know in which parallel universe the member is living. Although we hope and expect to be in government, we are not in alliance at the moment. The Lab...
Bill Aitken: Con
Mr Russell might not be responsible, but I assure him that I do not live in another universe. The fact that I live in the real world is sometimes a disadvant...
Michael Russell: SNP
Will the member give way?
Bill Aitken: Con
I will finish this point before I again give way.The only way in which Mr Russell would be able to achieve a reduction in class sizes would be by filling the...
Michael Russell: SNP
I am sorry that Bill Aitken did not accept my intervention earlier because I frankly do not understand that last point, which was nonsensical. I am happy to ...
Bill Aitken: Con
I assure Mr Russell that I will read with considerable interest whatever he sends me. Of course, I suffer from insomnia but I am sure that such reading will ...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab): Lab
Is Bill Aitken saying that we should not invest £700 million in Glasgow's acute services?
Bill Aitken: Con
I do not suggest that for a moment. We need to spend the money in a much more efficient and effective manner so as to improve patient care.
Mr John Swinney (North Tayside) (SNP): SNP
Will the member explain how?
Bill Aitken: Con
This is not a health debate. If members want to debate health, I will be delighted to do so on a suitable occasion.
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
Bill Aitken said that today's debate is not on health, but I am sure that he would recognise that the health of our children is important. Does he recognise ...
Bill Aitken: Con
I agree with the minister that the health of our children is a vital issue that should be addressed cogently and seriously. Where I take issue with the Execu...
Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab): Lab
Why then did so many of those who contributed to both the national debate on education and the Education, Culture and Sport Committee's inquiry into educatio...
Bill Aitken: Con
The usual suspects of course came up with that result. We must realise that the comprehensive education system needs to be looked at carefully. That realisat...
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
I go back to the member's first point about the rise in the number of young people who are looked after in residential accommodation. Does the member recogni...
Bill Aitken: Con
Yes, I freely concede that point. Nevertheless, it is depressing that there are so many looked-after youngsters in residential accommodation and that must be...