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Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
25 Sep 2002
Proposed Commissioner for Children and Young People Bill
I suggest that the first line of the proposed bill should read, "There shall be a Scottish commissioner for children and young people". For some folk, this development is only slightly less significant than the establishment of the Parliament.The establishment of the post of c...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
15 Jan 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I begin by conveying apologies from Michael Russell, who is, unfortunately, unwell this afternoon. On a happier note, I congratulate Karen Gillon on her comprehensive introduction to the debate. Not a lot more needs to be said, although perhaps we are still required to say som...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
15 Feb 2001
Children's Services
The minister will have noted that the SNP has lodged no amendment to the motion, because we fully endorse all aspects of it and because I truly believe that there should and can be much agreement on children's issues. I am pleased that we are having the debate, even though it ...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
12 Dec 2002
Children and Young People (Services)
Robert Brown should be aware that redefining poverty does not make the least bit of difference. All those children are in poverty in Scotland today and little has been done to alleviate the situation. It seemed appropriate to focus on youth justice and child protection in the ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
26 Mar 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill
Anyone who needs to be convinced of the varied nature of the legislation that the Parliament is passing could do worse than look at our business programme for this afternoon. In the space of an hour or two, we have considered the Council of the Law Society of Scotland Bill, th...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
24 Apr 2002
UN Children's Summit
It is appropriate at this moment to welcome Ellen Leaver, who is in the gallery tonight, and to wish her very good wishes from all of us in the Scottish Parliament on her mission to New York.The UN special summit will address a global agenda and action plan, but that plan will...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
06 Feb 2001
Children's Commissioner
It is very important not just to have the matter on the agenda, but to prioritise it. I commend the convener for the steps that she has taken to get this moving. Scotland should not be left behind, as it is in danger of being. We should note that calls for a Scottish commissio...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
07 Mar 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to raise several children's issues that have been identified by the Education, Culture and Sport Committee and by the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on children and young people. We welcome the bill's proposals, because children and other vulnerable people...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
12 Dec 2002
Children and Young People (Services)
I start with a quotation that is at the heart of the Executive's programme:"Ensuring every young person gets the best possible start in life."I am sure no one in the chamber disagrees with that worthy aspiration. However, we are concerned that too many of Scotland's vulnerable...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
13 Sep 2001
Children (Physical Chastisement)
This has been a good debate which has made it clear that all members are genuinely concerned about the welfare of children. There are differences of opinion, of course, but they are not necessarily of a party-political nature. It is no secret that my views are similar to those...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
20 Nov 2002
Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do not think that I have ever taken part in a debate in which the issues have been articulated so clearly, so often and at such length. The minister can be in no doubt about members' concerns. Further summing up seems to be a bit superfluous.All members' speeches acknowledge...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I do not think that the commissioner needs a power of access. In the majority of cases, the commissioner would want to negotiate amicably with whomever, or with whatever agency, was under investigation. When there is sufficient concern to justify using such a power, others in ...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
04 Apr 2001
Looked-after Children and Adoption Services
This has been a useful debate in which to tease out and explore the many current issues around adoption.On the sections of the Adoption and Children Bill that relate to Scotland, there has been no disagreement on the need to take action. The Kilshaw internet adoption case high...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
24 Feb 2000
Children (Physical Punishment)
Like others, I welcome the fact that we are to have consultation on this issue, followed by legislation. The crucial point is how much or how little Scotland wants to achieve. Where do we draw the line between inhuman, degrading treatment and reasonable chastisement? I sincere...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
09 Jan 2002
Scottish Executive's Priorities
The fact is that after two and a half years of new Labour and Liberal Government here in Scotland—just as after almost five years of new Labour Government in the UK—very little has been delivered. The losers are not just the people of this country, whose trust and support has ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
11 Dec 2002
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In my brief speech, I will focus on the issues that affect children and young people. Many of the concerns that I will describe were raised by children's organisations in evidence and were further debated at a meeting of the cross-party group on children and young people.First...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
09 Jan 2003
Child Protection Review
From the outset, I say that we welcome the review and its recommendations. It can only be good that the issue is being debated and addressed at a national level.However, we have to ensure that this opportunity to tackle the problems in child protection brings about real and la...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
04 Apr 2001
Looked-after Children and Adoption Services
I am happy to agree on that. I hope that all those routes will be fully considered in the review of policy and legislation. Two important facts emerge from research and practice over recent years. First, around 50 per cent of children who are now being placed for adoption come...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
20 Feb 2003
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill
I will confine my remarks to the physical punishment of children. The bill is a step in the right direction, but it is a small step. As Richard Simpson suggested, it pales into insignificance in comparison to the actions that are being taken by an increasing number of countrie...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
17 May 2001
Special Educational Needs
I am neither the convener nor the vice-convener of the Education, Culture and Sport Committee, but it is my pleasant duty to introduce this report to the Parliament on the committee's behalf.The committee agreed in November 1999 that one of its earliest inquiries should focus ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
31 Jan 2002
Young Runaways
Like others in the chamber, I am pleased that, as a result of the findings of "Missing Out—Young Runaways in Scotland" and of the debate, some attention is being given to a disturbing situation—it gives serious cause for concern.No one here can be comfortable with facts that c...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
03 Feb 2000
Rights of the Child
As a prospective convener of the proposed cross- party group on children, I welcome this debate on what is now the most ratified piece of human rights legislation in the world. The motion allows us to reflect on progress that has been made towards implementation of the convent...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
18 Sep 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
I absolutely agree. If the ethos of a commissioner is bedded in children's rights, that is something that we cannot ignore. Like Cathy Peattie, I do not think that investigation is solely the responsibility of the commissioner, but the commissioner would have a role in ensurin...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
15 Feb 2001
Children's Services
The basic determinants of a children's commissioner's remit should be the promotion of children's rights, the challenge of any breaches of children's rights and an influence on law, policy and practice—that takes in everything I have mentioned.On the concept of child impact st...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
That is right, but as it is not that kind of amendment, I cannot accept it.On amendment 9, Karen Gillon has comprehensively outlined the view that was taken by those of us who were involved in drawing up the bill. We feel that there are sufficient elements within the bill to a...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
03 Apr 2001
Children's Commissioner
Committee members will be aware that we have also commissioned research into consultation with young people and that we are now at the stage of bringing that to a conclusion and writing a final report. Some of us think that the children's commissioner inquiry and the outcome o...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
28 Mar 2002
Child Witness Reform
I, too, commend Gil Paterson for lodging the motion and I congratulate the children's organisations on the production of the excellent report, "Justice for Children", which addresses long-standing concerns about the experiences of children in the welfare system. Those concerns...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
28 Nov 2002
Domestic Abuse
I will deal with one specific aspect of this issue—the protection of children.For some time it has been known that children are often present or nearby when a woman is abused. According to Bill Butler, that is the case in perhaps 90 per cent of situations. We know that one thi...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
18 Sep 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
I totally agree with that, and I can suggest another reason why there is a gap in the evidence from young people themselves and young people's organisations. We have always referred to a children's commissioner, but there may be some doubt about the age range that we are talki...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
04 Dec 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
I would like to ask about your powers and the powers that might be given to a commissioner. Given your extensive experience of dealing with complaints in the local authority sector, would it be useful for a children's commissioner to be able to impose legal sanctions on local ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
05 Sep 2002
Looked-after Children
It might surprise the minister to know that there are members, indeed some on her own benches, who query why it is necessary to have yet another debate on looked-after children. However, I think that the answer is obvious. We need to have as many debates as it takes until effe...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
18 Sep 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
Alison Cleland has touched on some extremely interesting points. Like her, we are aware of other countries where such a proposal has been implemented successfully. We can look to those places for guidance. In reality, however, we must break new ground. No other country has the...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
01 May 2002
Youth Participation
Although this is the end of the debate, I would like to highlight a very useful starting point for this subject: the need for all those who are involved with children and young people to recognise that participation is a fundamental right of citizenship. That would indicate th...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
30 Jan 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am sure that many members and those in the child care world support your comments on the children's commissioner. I understand how a commissioner for children, attached to the bill, might do a lot for the young people with whom you work, because they are all in care. However...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
06 Dec 2001
Youth Justice System
I thank the minister for her intervention, but I must underline my point. I am sure that she is aware that applications for UK postgraduate social work courses have fallen alarmingly, from more than 9,000 in 1995 to under 5,000 last year. Vacant posts are a serious concern for...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
12 Jan 2000
Children and Young People
Leaving statistics and cold facts aside, we should remember that the trauma of someone leaving their home, their school, their family and their friends and being cared for by a local authority cannot be overestimated. The experience is painful for everybody concerned. Despite ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
07 Jun 2000
Standards in Scotland's <br />Schools etc Bill: Stage 3
We have had many debates in the chamber in which a commitment has been sought—and been given—that the views of young people should be actively canvassed and given due regard. Amendment 13 seeks to do no more than require local authorities to take those views into account. It w...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
04 Apr 2001
Looked-after Children and Adoption Services
The policy and practice of adoption has evolved since the 1920s and 1930s and legislation must reflect that. However, the legacy of the past 25 years or so is a piecemeal legal framework that makes it difficult to work through the amended legislation. I speak from some experie...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
21 Jun 2001
Young Carers
I, too, congratulate Donald Gorrie on bringing this important issue to the fore once again.Many young carers are carers not through choice, but because the burden lands on them. They care for a parent or a sibling unselfishly, against a background of missed school, lost educat...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
20 Sep 2001
Juvenile Justice
I say to the Conservative party that society, not the children's hearing system, is, in the words of that party's motion, "manifestly failing to deal with criminal and offending behaviour".Youth offenders are young people with problems. We are failing to deal effectively with ...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
18 Sep 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
The difference between the way in which the argument is stated on pages 1 and 2, and the statement on page 3 to which our attention has been drawn, is that the word "real" has been dropped. The earlier statement says:"Children have no real political, economic or social power"....
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
11 Jan 2001
Autistic Spectrum Disorder
I want to quote briefly from the Scottish Society for Autism's annual review. Speaking at the Autism-Europe congress 2000 that was held in Glasgow in May, George Reid MSP—Deputy Presiding Officer of the Scottish Parliament—said:"The battle for human rights is not won, so long ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
28 May 2002
Drug Misuse in North-East Scotland
There is no denying that drug misuse is a major problem in the north-east and that members who represent the area are only too well aware of its negative impact on far too many of our constituents and their families.In his motion, Richard Lochhead is correct to link drug misus...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will speak in favour of the view that Karen Gillon has expressed.Amendment 8 is ambiguous and imprecise. I would accept amendment 8 if it were a genuine Martini amendment—
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Feb 2003
Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will underline that point. The bill is clear that an appointment—whether a first or a second appointment—is fully covered by section 2. Nomination by the Parliament is required and the appointments need not be consecutive—that is, a first appointment may have occurred five y...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
13 Feb 2001
Children's Commissioner
Did I miss the bit about the adviser on the children's commissioner?
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
02 Oct 2001
Civic Participation Funding Bids
I agree.Why does the bid say that the event will be"targeted at young people of at least secondary school age"?Why cannot even younger people be involved? The commissioner would be not only for young people, but for children. Children who are below secondary school age are per...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
20 Nov 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
In that case, maybe you could give us some information on issues that others have raised. It would be useful to hear your views on the role and primary functions of a children's commissioner.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Dec 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
The committee will have to grapple with the problem of reserved and devolved issues. Would it be important for the children's commissioner to have a remit on issues that are reserved to Westminster? If so, which issues would be involved and why?
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Dec 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
Although we do not have a written submission from you, we have a memorandum that was written in May 2000. The committee feels that that memorandum took a fairly negative tone about the proposal for a children's commissioner. Could you set the scene for us by telling us whether...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
25 Sep 2002
Proposed Commissioner for Children and Young People Bill
The member presents a negative picture of what a commissioner might be in Scotland. Does he accept that throughout Europe 15 independent bodies have been established, which promote children's rights successfully in the same way that we propose for Scotland?
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
14 Dec 2000
Question Time · Children's Rights
Is the minister content that, simply because of their status, refugee children are denied the same rights and protection as all other children in Scotland? Is he comfortable with the fact that they are actively discriminated against because of it is a reserved matter? Is not h...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
04 Oct 2001
Sports Promotion in Schools
I am sorry; I must get on.PE in the curriculum is just the starting point. If we want children to develop their talent for and enjoyment of a particular activity or sport, there must be—as Kenny Gibson pointed out—an opportunity for them to do so outwith the school day. The Mc...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
05 Dec 2001
Gypsy Travellers and Public Sector Policies
As a member of the original Equal Opportunities Committee, I can recall when the inquiry was first proposed. I commend the committee's current members for producing such a comprehensive report of its inquiry into Gypsy Travellers and public sector policies. Although parts of i...
Irene McGugan: SNP Chamber
28 Nov 2002
Domestic Abuse
I hope so.We can accept or not accept the situation as it stands. The voluntary sector has difficulty resourcing children's services. The statutory sector also has difficulty doing so, not least because of the situation facing social work departments, which have struggled for ...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
12 Feb 2003
Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill
No one is in any doubt that we in Parliament need to do all that we can to increase the protection that we afford our children. The bill, as the minister said, is another tool to assist us in that, but it certainly comes none too soon; Lord Cullen's inquiry following the Dunbl...
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
18 Sep 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
No. That is not what I am advocating. I am saying that we need some alternative, which might be a commissioner, to compensate for that lack.
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Dec 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
To press you on that, do you feel that your powers and those that would belong to the commissioner are effective enough to deliver improvement?
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
04 Dec 2001
Children's Commissioner Inquiry
That is the point that I was asking you to clarify. Do you feel that the current system is effective enough, or do you accept that a commissioner could bring added value?
Irene McGugan: SNP Committee
29 May 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
We asked a question about how much of the changing children's services fund was allocated under the young people and looked-after children budget and were told that the 2000 spending review identified £15 million in the first year and £17.5 million in the following year. Is th...
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Plenary, 25 Sep 2002

25 Sep 2002 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Proposed Commissioner for Children and Young People Bill
McGugan, Irene SNP North East Scotland Watch on SPTV
I suggest that the first line of the proposed bill should read, "There shall be a Scottish commissioner for children and young people". For some folk, this development is only slightly less significant than the establishment of the Parliament.

The establishment of the post of children's commissioner will send a clear message that all children in Scotland matter—that their human rights are as important as those of adults, and that the views of children and young people will be heard and acted on. From our consultation and our everyday experience, we know that that is very important to them. Every day, decisions are taken that affect young people, but they feel that they have no input into those decisions. They have no advocate who will articulate views on their behalf.

The proposed bill has added significance because it will be a committee bill. I feel privileged to have been part of the process. Committee members are very encouraged by the positive response and support that the minister and the Executive have given to our proposal.

The commissioner's remit would cover children up to the age of 18. For children who have been looked after by a local authority that duty would extend to age 21, in line with the provisions of the Children (Scotland) Act 1995. There were difficulties in determining the age range to be covered by the bill. Different views were expressed to the committee on that issue. We propose that the commissioner should focus on the 1.25 million children in Scotland up to the age of 18, with an extension beyond that to a fairly small group of particularly vulnerable young people. They are vulnerable because they do not have, or at some time have not had, a family environment. That focus is entirely appropriate and in keeping with the Executive's objective of supporting disadvantaged young people.

The commissioner will have four key functions. The primary one is to promote and safeguard the rights of children and young people. We realise that in doing that the commissioner will have to promote awareness and understanding of exactly what those rights are throughout the whole population. It is a sad fact that most children, young people and, indeed, adults in Scotland would be unable to articulate any of them.

Secondly, the commissioner will be expected to keep under review current law and practice that relates to children and young people. The commissioner will then go further and assess whether such practice and existing law is adequate and effective. We acknowledge that the Executive has an obligation in that regard too, but we see the roles as complementary.

The third function is to promote best practice in relation to the rights of children and young people—practice being interpreted broadly to include policy. Finally, the commissioner will have the power to commission research to investigate how the rights are being exercised. All the results of that research will be published.

Underpinning all those functions are the relevant provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. The bill will refer to the convention in general terms, but the commissioner will have regard to the convention as a whole. The main principles that are expressed in articles 2, 3.1 and 12 will be covered particularly and we intend that those provisions will focus the work of the commissioner. That means specifically that the views of children and young people will be taken into account in all decisions that affect them; that the best interests of children should be the primary consideration in all decisions that affect them and that no child should suffer discrimination. We see those three principles as forming the basis of the commissioner's remit.

The principles of consultation, participation and accessibility will be key to the commissioner's work. As the Education, Culture and Sport Committee's report makes clear, the work of the commissioner will be informed by the views of children and young people. That will require that every opportunity be taken to receive their input and input from organisations that work with and for children and young people. For example, the commissioner will be under a duty to obtain views on matters that affect the rights of children and young people and to consult on the proposed programme of work and set out how that programme will be achieved.

The commissioner will be required to prepare an annual report, to be presented to Parliament, which should include that information. The report should also include a strategy for actively engaging young people in the work of the commissioner. That will be covered in every annual report by examining how successful the commissioner has been in the past year and how the requirement will be tackled in the coming year.

We accept that engaging with every child in Scotland on a one-to-one basis would be impossible, but the committee expects the commissioner to explore a variety of ways of involving children and young people in the work. There are examples of good practice in the voluntary sector and from other children's commissioners in Europe. We hope that our commissioner will not be afraid to innovate.

The annual report will also contain a review of all the issues that the commissioner identifies as being relevant to children and young people. It will contain a review of all his or her activities in the previous 12 months and an overview of work that is to be undertaken in the coming 12 months, while allowing for some flexibility and alteration.

A great deal of accountability will be built into the proposed bill, which the committee felt was very important. That will have the effect of holding the Executive to account for the ways in which policy affects children and young people. I was heartened to hear the minister's comments on the child impact statement.

I direct my next point at Brian Monteith in particular. The commissioner will be a powerful champion for children for a number of reasons. The commissioner will be a statutory creation and will have independence—independence is always a great and powerful word. The post will be funded by the Executive and accountable to the Parliament, but it will stand apart from both and be directed by neither. Crucially, the commissioner's work will have enormous credibility because not only will children and young people drive it, they will drive how it is prioritised.

I appreciate that not everyone in Scotland will view the promotion and safeguarding of children's rights as a legislative priority. However, I am confident that most members present today will have no difficulty supporting the committee's proposal in order to ensure that, in future, the rights and interests of all children and young people are treated as a priority by policy makers and service providers. I suggest that that will go a considerable way towards making Scotland the more child-friendly society to which I am sure we all aspire.

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The Minister for Education and Young People (Cathy Jamieson): Lab
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Mr Brian Monteith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
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Cathy Jamieson: Lab
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Mr Monteith: Con
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Cathy Jamieson: Lab
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I was a spoiled brat, but I was spanked.
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
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Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP
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Mr Brian Monteith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
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Scott Barrie: Lab
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Irene McGugan: SNP
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Mr Monteith: Con
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Ian Jenkins (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD): LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid): SNP
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Mr Monteith: Con
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Alex Neil: SNP
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Jackie Baillie: Lab
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Mr Kenny MacAskill (Lothians) (SNP): SNP
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Mr Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con): Con
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Johann Lamont: Lab
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