Chamber
Plenary, 27 Sep 2006
27 Sep 2006 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Crofting Reform etc Bill: Stage 1
On behalf of the Labour Party, I thank the clerking team of the Environment and Rural Development Committee for assisting the committee in reaching this stage of our deliberations on the bill.
I want to strike a more conciliatory note at the outset. I thank Ross Finnie and Rhona Brankin for their response to the committee's report. Rather than being a climbdown, I think that that is the way in which the Parliament should work. The committee worked hard to produce a report and the Executive responded positively to it.
At the start of the committee's scrutiny of the bill, I had little knowledge of this complex system of secure tenure of small landholdings provided at a reasonable rent and protected by a unique code of law. I am rather more informed now, although I do not claim to be an expert. Indeed, it was an aim of the bill to simplify crofting legislation, and that was welcomed by the committee in its stage 1 report.
As the minister said, the bill came about in order to implement policy proposals arising from the publication in 1999 of the land reform policy group's recommendations for action, which included proposals to reform crofting law. The Executive consulted extensively on the proposals for the bill and published an analysis of the responses to that consultation in March 2005. Those proposals, which formed the basis of the draft bill, were for more sustainable crofting communities; more local involvement and accountability for crofting administration; much simplified crofting legislation and administration; more—at least, not fewer—active crofters; and crofters undertaking a wide range of land-based and other economic activity in addition to agriculture. As we have heard, however, the committee's stage 1 scrutiny unearthed a much wider debate about the future of crofting in the context of changing and increasing pressures.
The committee heard much evidence about how crofting could be sustained in the modern world and about whether the bill would equip crofting to respond to the challenges that it faces. A range of issues that are outlined in the committee's report dominated the evidence on the bill. They include a debate about the vision for crofting and whether it should be viewed primarily as custodianship of land for future generations or as a private asset to be developed; a debate about whether crofting is primarily an agricultural system or a social and economic development tool; concern about an unrestrained free market in crofts and croft tenancies and concern that the crofting right to buy should not mean an unfettered right to speculate; proposals to dampen that market by imposing obligations on croft owner-occupiers to live on or near the croft and to farm it, such as currently exist for croft tenants; proposals to increase the supply of crofts by creating new crofts; and the relationship between planning law and crofting.
As stage 1 progressed, it became increasingly clear that the bill, as drafted, was not going to meet the aspirations of many witnesses. Indeed, there was a pervading concern that it might encourage the marketisation of crofting.
In written evidence, Brian Wilson called the bill "a speculator's charter", as it can be seen as legitimising the notion that market forces are already the norm. In its written submission, the National Trust for Scotland stated:
"With its emphasis on development, diversification and the protection of individual rights, the Bill at best offers little to change to the status quo, and at worst accelerates the demise of the crofting system by failing to tackle poor enforcement of current regulations and by encouraging a free market in croft tenancies at the expense of the wider crofting system."
Had I more time, I could go on quoting in the same vein, but the evidence that I have cited is illustrative of the concerns about a free market in crofting that might have become more entrenched if the bill as introduced had been progressed. That point can be teased out in today's debate.
Concern was also expressed about the role and purpose of the Crofters Commission, and especially about whether it has adequate powers and is making proper use of those that it has. Whether or not the commission's powers are adequate, evidence indicated that there is a real public perception that over the years it has failed to make use of its powers.
One of those powers is the power of veto, which essentially allows the commission to regulate the assignation of crofts. In response to questioning from me in committee, Shane Rankin said:
"The question is whether the Crofting Commission can go on vetoing assignations … The power of veto was given so that we could avoid some of the worst excesses."—[Official Report, Environment and Rural Development Committee, 19 April 2006; c 3010.]
At the same meeting, Brian Wilson questioned that statement. He said:
"That has never been my understanding. Criteria and definitions apply to what is expected of crofting tenants and potential crofting tenants. If they cannot, are unlikely to or subsequently do not meet those criteria, the regulator should regulate them. Otherwise, what is the point of the law and the regulator? If a doctrine of avoiding the worst excesses is created, we must ask what the worst excesses are."—[Official Report, Environment and Rural Development Committee, 19 April 2006; c 3022-23.]
At the end of the stage 1 process, it is clear that strong direction must be given to the commission to use its existing powers to act to address some of the problems that are identified in the committee's report and to rebuild trust in the commission.
On the issues that I have outlined, along with many others, it is clear that there was dissatisfaction with the bill as introduced. For that reason, the committee proposed that we take the fairly radical step of leaving out large parts of the bill and not introducing the concept of proper occupier, which had been suggested as an add-on. However, I do not recall the committee suggesting that we should not proceed with the bill.
I am pleased that the Scottish Executive has listened to the committee and the witnesses from whom we took evidence and that it has responded so positively. It is in no one's interest for us to proceed with the bill as introduced, given that it has stirred up such disquiet among crofters, crofting communities and those who take an interest in crofting. However, it would have been difficult for the Executive to second-guess that until all the evidence had been taken and the committee had reached its conclusions. I am sure that it was always the Executive's intention to introduce a helpful piece of legislation, which has now been informed by the committee's deliberations. I believe that what is now proposed is a step forward for crofting.
The key issues that remain are interposed leases; challenging the neglect of crofts; ensuring that there is an accurate register of crofts; extending crofting tenure outwith the crofting counties; and enabling the creation of new crofts without the right to buy. Progress can be made on all those issues and would be welcomed by most people, so we should proceed in that fashion.
The evidence in respect of new crofts focused mainly on Arran. Many argued that, in the past, Arran had unreasonably missed out on being included in the crofting counties. The committee was recently in Arran and took the opportunity to consider the issue further by visiting the areas concerned and speaking to locals. Its visit was warmly welcomed.
I commend the Scottish Executive for heeding the committee's report and giving a commitment to drop the more controversial proposals in the bill, including those that refer to the market value of crofts. I am pleased that it has committed itself to instigating a wide-ranging inquiry into crofting issues, including the market for crofts and the status, role, functioning and powers of the Crofters Commission. Given the lack of consensus among crofting interests, that is the right way of progressing the issues and allowing the debate to develop further.
A modern vision for crofting cannot lose sight of crofting's unique traditions, especially the principle of giving the crofter security of tenure, at a reasonable rent, with the right to pass on the croft to future generations via a hereditary system. Important provisions will remain in the bill after stage 2 and, unlike some colleagues, I believe that we should take forward those provisions. I urge the Parliament to support the general principles of the bill today, which will allow us to amend the bill at stage 2 in line with the committee's report and the Scottish Executive's extremely helpful response to it.
I want to strike a more conciliatory note at the outset. I thank Ross Finnie and Rhona Brankin for their response to the committee's report. Rather than being a climbdown, I think that that is the way in which the Parliament should work. The committee worked hard to produce a report and the Executive responded positively to it.
At the start of the committee's scrutiny of the bill, I had little knowledge of this complex system of secure tenure of small landholdings provided at a reasonable rent and protected by a unique code of law. I am rather more informed now, although I do not claim to be an expert. Indeed, it was an aim of the bill to simplify crofting legislation, and that was welcomed by the committee in its stage 1 report.
As the minister said, the bill came about in order to implement policy proposals arising from the publication in 1999 of the land reform policy group's recommendations for action, which included proposals to reform crofting law. The Executive consulted extensively on the proposals for the bill and published an analysis of the responses to that consultation in March 2005. Those proposals, which formed the basis of the draft bill, were for more sustainable crofting communities; more local involvement and accountability for crofting administration; much simplified crofting legislation and administration; more—at least, not fewer—active crofters; and crofters undertaking a wide range of land-based and other economic activity in addition to agriculture. As we have heard, however, the committee's stage 1 scrutiny unearthed a much wider debate about the future of crofting in the context of changing and increasing pressures.
The committee heard much evidence about how crofting could be sustained in the modern world and about whether the bill would equip crofting to respond to the challenges that it faces. A range of issues that are outlined in the committee's report dominated the evidence on the bill. They include a debate about the vision for crofting and whether it should be viewed primarily as custodianship of land for future generations or as a private asset to be developed; a debate about whether crofting is primarily an agricultural system or a social and economic development tool; concern about an unrestrained free market in crofts and croft tenancies and concern that the crofting right to buy should not mean an unfettered right to speculate; proposals to dampen that market by imposing obligations on croft owner-occupiers to live on or near the croft and to farm it, such as currently exist for croft tenants; proposals to increase the supply of crofts by creating new crofts; and the relationship between planning law and crofting.
As stage 1 progressed, it became increasingly clear that the bill, as drafted, was not going to meet the aspirations of many witnesses. Indeed, there was a pervading concern that it might encourage the marketisation of crofting.
In written evidence, Brian Wilson called the bill "a speculator's charter", as it can be seen as legitimising the notion that market forces are already the norm. In its written submission, the National Trust for Scotland stated:
"With its emphasis on development, diversification and the protection of individual rights, the Bill at best offers little to change to the status quo, and at worst accelerates the demise of the crofting system by failing to tackle poor enforcement of current regulations and by encouraging a free market in croft tenancies at the expense of the wider crofting system."
Had I more time, I could go on quoting in the same vein, but the evidence that I have cited is illustrative of the concerns about a free market in crofting that might have become more entrenched if the bill as introduced had been progressed. That point can be teased out in today's debate.
Concern was also expressed about the role and purpose of the Crofters Commission, and especially about whether it has adequate powers and is making proper use of those that it has. Whether or not the commission's powers are adequate, evidence indicated that there is a real public perception that over the years it has failed to make use of its powers.
One of those powers is the power of veto, which essentially allows the commission to regulate the assignation of crofts. In response to questioning from me in committee, Shane Rankin said:
"The question is whether the Crofting Commission can go on vetoing assignations … The power of veto was given so that we could avoid some of the worst excesses."—[Official Report, Environment and Rural Development Committee, 19 April 2006; c 3010.]
At the same meeting, Brian Wilson questioned that statement. He said:
"That has never been my understanding. Criteria and definitions apply to what is expected of crofting tenants and potential crofting tenants. If they cannot, are unlikely to or subsequently do not meet those criteria, the regulator should regulate them. Otherwise, what is the point of the law and the regulator? If a doctrine of avoiding the worst excesses is created, we must ask what the worst excesses are."—[Official Report, Environment and Rural Development Committee, 19 April 2006; c 3022-23.]
At the end of the stage 1 process, it is clear that strong direction must be given to the commission to use its existing powers to act to address some of the problems that are identified in the committee's report and to rebuild trust in the commission.
On the issues that I have outlined, along with many others, it is clear that there was dissatisfaction with the bill as introduced. For that reason, the committee proposed that we take the fairly radical step of leaving out large parts of the bill and not introducing the concept of proper occupier, which had been suggested as an add-on. However, I do not recall the committee suggesting that we should not proceed with the bill.
I am pleased that the Scottish Executive has listened to the committee and the witnesses from whom we took evidence and that it has responded so positively. It is in no one's interest for us to proceed with the bill as introduced, given that it has stirred up such disquiet among crofters, crofting communities and those who take an interest in crofting. However, it would have been difficult for the Executive to second-guess that until all the evidence had been taken and the committee had reached its conclusions. I am sure that it was always the Executive's intention to introduce a helpful piece of legislation, which has now been informed by the committee's deliberations. I believe that what is now proposed is a step forward for crofting.
The key issues that remain are interposed leases; challenging the neglect of crofts; ensuring that there is an accurate register of crofts; extending crofting tenure outwith the crofting counties; and enabling the creation of new crofts without the right to buy. Progress can be made on all those issues and would be welcomed by most people, so we should proceed in that fashion.
The evidence in respect of new crofts focused mainly on Arran. Many argued that, in the past, Arran had unreasonably missed out on being included in the crofting counties. The committee was recently in Arran and took the opportunity to consider the issue further by visiting the areas concerned and speaking to locals. Its visit was warmly welcomed.
I commend the Scottish Executive for heeding the committee's report and giving a commitment to drop the more controversial proposals in the bill, including those that refer to the market value of crofts. I am pleased that it has committed itself to instigating a wide-ranging inquiry into crofting issues, including the market for crofts and the status, role, functioning and powers of the Crofters Commission. Given the lack of consensus among crofting interests, that is the right way of progressing the issues and allowing the debate to develop further.
A modern vision for crofting cannot lose sight of crofting's unique traditions, especially the principle of giving the crofter security of tenure, at a reasonable rent, with the right to pass on the croft to future generations via a hereditary system. Important provisions will remain in the bill after stage 2 and, unlike some colleagues, I believe that we should take forward those provisions. I urge the Parliament to support the general principles of the bill today, which will allow us to amend the bill at stage 2 in line with the committee's report and the Scottish Executive's extremely helpful response to it.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid):
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S2M-4710, in the name of Ross Finnie, on the general principles of the Crofting Reform etc Bill.
The Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Ross Finnie):
LD
Crofting is a uniquely Scottish way of life and approach to small-scale agriculture. For the first time, it is to be subject to legislation that has been dev...
John Swinburne (Central Scotland) (SSCUP):
SSCUP
The Scottish Parliament information centre's excellent briefing on crofting states:"In recognition of its importance in sustaining remote rural communities, ...
Ross Finnie:
LD
I would be happy to receive a letter from the member on that point. It is certainly not within the scope of the bill, although it may be a matter of great an...
John Farquhar Munro (Ross, Skye and Inverness West) (LD):
LD
The minister said that a committee of inquiry is to be established to consider the complexities of the crofting situation. Will it look into absenteeism and ...
Ross Finnie:
LD
I am grateful to John Farquhar Munro for that intervention. I am well aware of his particular interest in crofting in general and in the misuse and neglect o...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness East, Nairn and Lochaber) (SNP):
SNP
I apologise for not being here for the start of the minister's speech. When will the committee of inquiry's remit be finalised? When will the committee be es...
Ross Finnie:
LD
That is the sort of multiple question for which one gets points for each part.We have given quite a lot of thought to the committee of inquiry. We have to id...
Rob Gibson (Highlands and Islands) (SNP):
SNP
Few of the original proposals in the Crofting Reform etc Bill are left unscathed. It is a botched bill. It has been savaged by the determined committee that ...
Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab):
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Rob Gibson:
SNP
Not at the moment.Crofting reform was a low priority for the Lib-Lab coalition, which has taken so long to go so tortuously short a distance. Listen to croft...
Ross Finnie:
LD
Rob Gibson has referred several times to market value. If he intends to extinguish that, is it SNP policy to remove the right to buy? The right to buy was th...
Rob Gibson:
SNP
The situation that the minister discusses is complicated. The right of people to have a house that they can decroft and use for themselves has been accepted ...
Mr Ted Brocklebank (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con):
Con
When the commission that was chaired by Francis, Lord Napier of Ettrick, went to interview crofters about their grievances on 8 May 1883, it was no coinciden...
Ross Finnie:
LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Mr Brocklebank:
Con
I will do so in a moment. The minister may want to come back on what I am about to say.As Rob Gibson pointed out, Ross Finnie declared on BBC Radio Scotland ...
Ross Finnie:
LD
I am grateful for the member's concerns about market values, which we all share. However, for the sake of members, will he point to any section of the bill t...
Mr Brocklebank:
Con
Things will become apparent as I proceed.The bill has failed to dampen the speculation and free market in land—that is the major problem that we are faced wi...
Elaine Smith:
Lab
Is Ted Brocklebank suggesting that, in abandoning the bill, the Executive should abandon provisions—which it intends to leave in the bill—to create a registe...
Mr Brocklebank:
Con
Of course, there are aspects of the bill that we believe should, eventually, be part of a well-thought-out bill that has a real vision for the future of crof...
Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab):
Lab
On behalf of the Labour Party, I thank the clerking team of the Environment and Rural Development Committee for assisting the committee in reaching this stag...
The Presiding Officer:
NPA
I call Sarah Boyack, who will speak as convener of the Environment and Rural Development Committee.
Sarah Boyack (Edinburgh Central) (Lab):
Lab
I thank committee members, witnesses, committee clerks and all those who were involved in the preparation of our committee report. In particular, I thank the...
John Farquhar Munro (Ross, Skye and Inverness West) (LD):
LD
I congratulate the convener of the Environment and Rural Development Committee, who seems to have an amazing grasp of crofting legislation. I thank her for h...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP):
SNP
As we have heard, the bill attracted adverse comment and deep and stinging criticisms from the Environment and Rural Development Committee, which is to be co...
Elaine Smith:
Lab
Does the member accept that the committee's deliberations uncovered many of the issues that he has outlined? Instead of continually denigrating the Scottish ...
Jim Mather:
SNP
Given the delays and the patchwork of good with the bad, I must focus on the fundamental flaws in what is an extremely unhelpful bill, which has caused great...
Mr Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD):
LD
We have heard John Farquhar Munro—who I think is one of only two members of Parliament who are crofters—say that some parts of the bill are welcome, so why o...
Jim Mather:
SNP
If the member had listened to Rob Gibson, he would have got that message loud and clear. It is important that progress is made and that we get the improvemen...
Eleanor Scott (Highlands and Islands) (Green):
Green
We have heard about a fine example of a committee doing its job of scrutinising a bill and reaching a conclusion on it. I add my thanks to everyone who gave ...