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Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab Chamber
24 Sep 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On behalf of Labour members, I thank the clerks, the Scottish Parliament information centre and the witnesses who contributed to our stage 1 consideration. On 7 March 2008 the justice secretary at the time, Kenny MacAskill, announced a review of the Fatal Accidents and Sudden...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Dec 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
As we have heard, fatal accident inquiries into the circumstances of deaths are undertaken in the public interest in order to determine the time, place and cause of death and to establish whether lessons can be learned in order to prevent similar fatalities in the future. They...
Elaine Murray Lab Chamber
24 Sep 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Indeed—and I think that there was a recent case of that type. However, an example does not provide a definition. In that case, the public interest is easier to understand, but there are other cases in which what the public interest is is less easy to understand. As Patricia Fe...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab Chamber
31 May 2012
A75 (Improvements)
I thank the members who signed my motion, enabling it to be debated tonight. I also thank the 1,000-plus readers of the Dumfries and Galloway Standard who signed a petition urging the completion of the Hardgrove to Kinmount improvement scheme in the aftermath of the tragic dea...
Elaine Murray Lab Chamber
24 Sep 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Fatal accident inquiries are inquiries into the circumstances of a death that are undertaken in the public interest to determine the time, place and cause of death, and to establish whether lessons can be learned to prevent similar fatalities in the future. A number of very t...
Elaine Murray Lab Chamber
24 Sep 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
No, I am sorry. I have only a couple of minutes left. I would like to wrap up and refer to a few other things that have been said. Johann Lamont, Jayne Baxter and Annabel Goldie in her summing up referred to the need for people who are represented at an FAI to be entitled to ...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab Chamber
27 Oct 2015
Apologies (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On behalf of Scottish Labour members, I thank the clerks to the Justice Committee and the witnesses who gave evidence on the bill, and I congratulate Margaret Mitchell on bringing her bill to this stage. In particular, I congratulate her on her recognition of the importance to...
Dr Murray: Lab Chamber
09 Feb 2006
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · Road Safety (Dumfries and Galloway)
I am a trifle surprised by the minister's reply. I am grateful for the interest he has shown in the safety concerns arising from recent fatal accidents on the A76, but, sadly, I have to advise him that there have been several other serious and fatal accidents on other trunk ro...
Elaine Murray (Dumfries) (Lab): Lab Chamber
30 Oct 2008
Non-native Invasive Species
The reaction of many people to hearing that the Scottish Parliament is spending time debating a strategy on invasive non-native species might well be to ask, "Why?" People do not overtly recognise the issue but, on further examination, most would have some knowledge and awaren...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There has been some debate around whether there should be a time limit for initiating a fatal accident inquiry. Some of the arguments against have included the idea that any criminal proceedings should take place first. Would it be permissible or acceptable for an FAI to take ...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
12 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Is there no argument for doing what Lord Cullen has recommended, which is to make a fatal accident inquiry mandatory in all such circumstances?
The Deputy Convener Lab Committee
23 Jun 2015
Apologies (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have a wee technical point to raise. Ms Mitchell, you specifically exempt inquiries under the Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths Inquiry (Scotland) Act 1976. As you know, the Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill repeals that act. I just wonder ...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Dec 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
At stage 2, the committee agreed by majority vote to amend the bill to require a mandatory fatal accident inquiry when a person who is in compulsory detention under the Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Act 2003 dies. The amendment accorded with Lord Cullen’s recom...
Elaine Murray Lab Chamber
10 Dec 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
As the minister said, at stage 2, I introduced an amendment into section 10 to give a trade union or staff association representative of a person killed in the course of their employment the statutory right to participate in a fatal accident inquiry into the person’s death. Th...
The Deputy Convener Lab Committee
05 Jan 2016
Petitions
We kept open PE1280, on fatal accident inquiries, until the Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill had been passed. Stage 3 of that bill concluded on 10 December and the bill, as passed, included section 6, on inquiries into deaths occurring abroa...
The Deputy Convener Lab Committee
05 Jan 2016
Petitions
PE1501 and PE1567 are on investigating unascertained deaths, suicides and fatal accidents. PE1501 requests that an inquiry be held where a death is determined to have been self-inflicted or accidental following a suspicious-death investigation. PE1567 asks for a change in the ...
Dr Elaine Murray (Dumfries) (Lab): Lab Committee
27 Jun 2000
Forestry Strategy
I apologise for sounding like Marge Simpson—my cold did not prevent me from getting out of bed to catch my train.I want to address your priorities for action, specifically the maximisation of the value of the wood resource. You have talked about competitiveness, but there is a...
Dr Elaine Murray (Dumfries) (Lab): Lab Chamber
01 Jun 2000
Borders Rail Link
A portion of my constituency could be considered to be in the Borders. My constituency generally borders on the Borders, so I am particularly happy to speak in support of the motion. It cannot be denied that the Borders has been particularly poorly served against the standards...
The Deputy Minister for Tourism, Culture and Sport (Dr Elaine Murray): Lab Chamber
30 May 2002
Question Time · Listed Buildings
I am aware of the member's concerns, which arise from a case in Aberdeen that resulted in a fatal accident and considerable destruction to the city centre. However, transactions between an insurer and the party insured are not the responsibility of Government.
Dr Murray: Lab Chamber
03 Nov 2005
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · A76 Route Action Plan
The minister will be aware that my colleague, Councillor Jim Dempster, recently wrote to him with suggestions for improvements after there were two fatal accidents within a week. Is he aware that, although the original route action plan was drawn up about 10 years ago, many se...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Nov 2014
Programme for Government 2014-15
I am glad that I am going to be a sexagenarian next month; that makes me feel a lot better about it. I congratulate the new Cabinet Secretary for Justice and the new Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs—who is in the chamber—on their new roles. The First Minister ...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Could I also ask about sheriffs’ recommendations?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There seems to be a difference of opinion between you, the Scottish Government and Ms Ferguson on the issue of sheriffs’ recommendations. You recommend that there be an obligation to respond to such recommendations, whereas Patricia Ferguson suggests that complying with them s...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In their written evidence, some witnesses said that they did not think that the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service was the appropriate organisation to make such a report.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you very much.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The Scottish Trades Union Congress indicated that the ambit of the mandatory FAI should be extended when deaths arise because of new industries such as fracking or nanotechnologies. Would you be sympathetic to that being mandatory or could it be covered by the discretion of th...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I return to military deaths. I was surprised—to say the least—to read in Flt Lt Jones’s written submission that “The interpretation of the current Act, by the Crown Office, discriminates against members of the Armed Forces in that ... They are not regarded as ‘employees’”. W...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What is the effect of that on military personnel?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Did you make those recommendations to the Government at the time of the consultation? Do you feel that your concerns were taken in properly?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is a pity that we did not get the opportunity to ask Lord Cullen about this. I presume that it was not within the remit of his review.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
12 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
At section 6, the bill states that in cases where “the death occurred outwith the United Kingdom, ... the person was ordinarily resident in Scotland, and ... the person’s body has been brought” back to Scotland, the provisions of the bill would apply. In some industries—the ...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
12 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
One of the counterarguments is that it would be very difficult to enforce recommendations in other jurisdictions.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
12 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Police Scotland was quite concerned about the implications for the police—for example, about whether the police would be expected to do investigations elsewhere, if there were to be criminal investigations and so on.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
12 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Lord Cullen’s recommendations have not been totally taken up in relation to deaths of people who are detained not in legal custody but for reasons of mental health. Should Lord Cullen’s recommendations be implemented in full in that regard, or are there problems with that?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
12 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Any death in legal custody will be subject to an FAI, even if it is a death by natural causes. Why should that be different from those who are subject to compulsory treatment, for example?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
12 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On deaths during detention under mental health legislation, and deaths of children who are compulsorily living away from home and for whom local authorities are responsible, will you outline the current arrangements in that regard and say whether you think that they are suffic...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The bill puts into practice many, but not all, of Lord Cullen’s recommendations. I particularly want to ask for the witnesses’ views on his recommendation that there should be mandatory FAIs for people who die while in the care of the state, such as children in care or people ...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My colleague, Patricia Ferguson, has proposed her own member’s bill—
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, it is on mandatory FAIs.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Patricia Ferguson proposes to extend mandatory FAIs to deaths caused by industrial diseases or exposure to hazardous substances. Have you a view on that? 10:15
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On that specific point, we have also discussed the way in which recommendations are reported. Perhaps what the witnesses are saying is actually an argument for the Scottish Government being more involved in the publication of the recommendations so that it is on top of the iss...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Perhaps the Government should be doing that so that it can learn the lessons from the recommendations that are made.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I come back to the sheriffs’ recommendations. The bill proposes that the SCTS be delegated to collate and publish responses, whereas Lord Cullen’s original recommendation was that the Scottish Government should do that, thereby charging the Government with responsibility for o...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I was not questioning the SCTS’s skills to do the job. The question is whether, given that recommendations could require legislative change, it would be better for the Government to take that responsibility because it would be responsible for introducing legislation.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Is the financial memorandum adequate?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We heard earlier in evidence from the Sheriffs Association that it is concerned about summary sheriffs dealing with FAIs. I think that the association’s argument was that it might not become apparent early on that a case would be complex and a summary sheriff might not have su...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Should the bill allow sheriffs to retain the power to award expenses? It is a power that they currently have that does not seem to be replicated in the bill.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It was mentioned that that power is very rarely used. I presume that it has been used only in cases such as you just illustrated.
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I seek clarification on something that you said a little earlier on, when you were talking about mandatory inquiries. Were you saying that you were not in favour of any mandatory inquiries, or just the extension of mandatory inquiries?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
I turn to the issue of sheriff’s recommendations. As you will be aware, Patricia Ferguson’s proposed inquiries into deaths (Scotland) bill would make compliance with sheriff’s recommendations legally binding after a hearing to discuss any issues, whereas section 27 of the bill...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
We have had evidence from witnesses who felt that the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service was not necessarily best placed to publish the recommendations and that perhaps Scottish ministers should have responsibility for doing that, because if the recommendations required leg...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
What can families do if they are not happy with the result of an inquiry? What is the recourse for families who are not content after an FAI?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
You are probably aware that Patricia Ferguson’s proposed member’s bill would introduce time limits, which could be flexible, for the holding of FAIs. Will you comment on that and, in doing so, give us an indication of the average timescales for holding FAIs—families have raise...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
In your opening statement, you gave some indications about why you think that the sheriff’s recommendations should be published on the SCTS website rather than on the Scottish Government’s website. Would you expect the SCTS to monitor compliance with the sheriff’s recommendati...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
In that case do you envisage the Lord Advocate or the Scottish ministers having an oversight role?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
Not completely, but—
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
Patricia Ferguson proposed that the sheriff’s recommendations be legally binding. I understand from the explanatory note why ministers have chosen to reject that suggestion. Would you be prepared to consider legal sanctions against those who fail to respond to a sheriff’s reco...
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill
Is it your principal concern that a legal sanction would make the process more adversarial?
Elaine Murray Lab Committee
09 Jun 2015
Inquiries into Deaths (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Evidence that we took at stage 1 of the Government’s bill suggested that there could be instances in which the cause of death is fairly obvious and a fatal accident inquiry is not really required because, for example, the person died in secure accommodation. How is that reflec...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 24 September 2015

24 Sep 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

On behalf of Labour members, I thank the clerks, the Scottish Parliament information centre and the witnesses who contributed to our stage 1 consideration.

On 7 March 2008 the justice secretary at the time, Kenny MacAskill, announced a review of the Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths Inquiry (Scotland) Act 1976, which was to be conducted by the Rt Hon Lord Cullen of Whitekirk, a former Lord President of the Court of Session. A debate took place in the Scottish Parliament on 27 March 2008, led by the Lord Advocate, during which members of all parties expressed concern over the functioning of the 1976 act. Lord Cullen reported in November 2009, but it took until 2011 for the Scottish Government to publish its response, and it took a further three years for it to publish a consultation on proposed legislative change, which it did in July 2014. The Government bill was finally introduced on 19 March this year, five and a half years after Lord Cullen had reported.

The Justice Committee agreed to the general principles of the Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill, which takes forward some, but not all, of the recommendations of Lord Cullen’s 2009 report on his review of fatal accident inquiry legislation. However, that was not the only bill to address the recommendations. While the committee took evidence on the Government bill, it also considered the alternative approach that was offered by Patricia Ferguson’s member’s bill: the Inquiries into Deaths (Scotland) Bill.

Members who, like me, sat in this Parliament in 2004 will recall the support that Patricia Ferguson gave to her constituents who were affected when ICI’s Stockline Plastics factory exploded on 11 May 2004, with the loss of nine lives. Her experience of supporting her constituents and her frustration at the lack of action by the Scottish Government following Lord Cullen’s review in 2009 led her to draft a proposal for a member’s bill in August 2013 and, following consultation, to introduce her bill in November last year.

The Justice Committee’s stage 1 report makes reference to the member’s bill and the ways in which it differs from the Government bill, but it does not make recommendations about the member’s bill. Instead, the committee published a shorter stage 1 report on Ms Ferguson’s bill and it anticipated that both bills’ stage 1 debates might take place on the same day. I do not know whether we made a formal recommendation to that effect, but it certainly seemed to be the favoured way forward when we discussed our reports on both bills. I understand, however, that Scottish Government officials thought that it might be too confusing for members to consider two bills that cover the same area of policy on the same day. In the Justice Committee we frequently have more than one bill before us on the same day.

Labour members are disappointed that we are not debating both bills on the same day. I tabled an amendment to the stage 1 motion on the general principles of the Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill, which reflected the Justice Committee’s recommendations on how proposals in the two bills might be considered together. Unfortunately my amendment was not selected for debate today, despite assurances from the chamber desk that it was competent.

The current legislation—the Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths Inquiry (Scotland) Act 1976—limits mandatory fatal accident inquiries to deaths in work-related accidents or deaths that occur in legal custody. The Lord Advocate has discretion to decide not to hold a mandatory FAI into deaths in work-related accidents or deaths that occur in legal custody if the circumstances of the deaths have been established during criminal proceedings. If it is in the public interest and lessons can be learned to prevent similar deaths from occurring in future, the Lord Advocate can also decide to hold a fatal accident inquiry in other circumstances if a death is sudden, suspicious or unexplained.

The bill does not take forward a number of Lord Cullen’s recommendations. For example, he recommended that the scope of the bill be extended to include children who die in residential care, other than secure accommodation, and deaths of people during compulsory detention by a public authority.

The Scottish Human Rights Commission agreed with Lord Cullen that fatal accident inquiries should be mandatory for deaths of persons who are held in mental health detention. However, in a case in which the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland’s investigation had established the circumstances of the death, the Lord Advocate would have discretion not to hold a fatal accident inquiry. Families against corporate killers agreed with the position of the Scottish Human Rights Commission, considering that people who are held in compulsory detention are amongst some of the most vulnerable.

In order to keep families informed of progress, Lord Cullen suggested that an initial early court hearing be held shortly after the reporting of the death to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service. In evidence to the Justice Committee, he went even further and suggested that an earlier meeting take place to inform family members about process and timescales. However, the status that such a meeting would have was unclear, and, given that the Solicitor General’s recently published milestone charter should cover the information that would be included in such a meeting, the committee felt that this early meeting would not add anything.

Under the bill, fatal accident inquiries remain mandatory where someone dies in a work-related accident or in legal custody; the mandatory category is extended to children who are kept in secure accommodation; and discretionary fatal accident inquiries are extended to deaths abroad where the body is repatriated. A number of witnesses including the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers, which represents workers employed at sea, argued that the bill should give the Lord Advocate discretion to hold an FAI without the body being repatriated, as lessons could still be learned in such circumstances. We welcome the Scottish Government’s response that it intends to lodge an amendment at stage 2 to allow the Lord Advocate discretion to permit a fatal accident inquiry in some circumstances when it has not been possible to retrieve the body. We also welcome the provisions in the bill that enable an FAI to be reopened under certain circumstances.

As has been mentioned, a strange anomaly was uncovered during the bill’s consideration as a result of evidence from a member of the public. I think that it came as a surprise to committee members and the ministers that fatal accident inquiries cannot be held for service personnel on active service who die in Scotland, even though in England and Wales coroner’s inquests can be held in such circumstances. We were advised that that was because service personnel are appointees of the Crown, not employees. I welcome the minister’s announcement that the UK Government is considering what I think is called a section 140 amendment, because of the reserved aspects, and I hope that the matter will soon be resolved to enable the families of service personnel who die in Scotland to have the death of their loved one investigated in the same way that it would be if the person had died in England and Wales.

Addressing delays in holding fatal accident inquiries and keeping families informed of progress were major concerns for committee members, who heard a number of possible routes in that respect. Bereaved families should be central to the fatal accident inquiry process and they and the appropriate trade unions and staff associations must be kept informed and enabled to participate. The draft milestone charter, which has already been referred to, sets out commitments to bereaved families on the timescales by which certain communications with families should take place at various stages in the process. Bereaved families must be better included in the inquiry process and I look forward to the stage 2 amendments that, as the minister indicated, will place the charter on a statutory footing and improve accountability to families.

In its briefing on the bill, the Law Society voices concern that Lord Cullen’s recommendation regarding the provision of legal aid to families without their having to demonstrate reasonableness is not reflected in the bill. It points out that because FAIs are fact-finding inquiries in the public interest they can be very complex and families might be in particular need of legal advice.

The Government bill requires that, where the Lord Advocate decides not to hold an FAI, whether it be discretionary or mandatory, written reasons be provided to families on request. In its stage 1 report, the committee recommended that the requirement that the information be requested be removed and that the information be provided to families as a matter of course.

Lord Cullen suggested that the Scottish Government publish sheriff’s recommendations, and the Government bill proposes that that be done via the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service website, instead of the Scottish Government publishing the material itself. However, it is not clear on whom the duty to monitor the implementation of such recommendations would rest. That is a particular concern; for example, in its briefing, the Law Society comments that no sanction appears to be proposed against parties that fail to comply or co-operate with the sheriff’s recommendations.

Patricia Ferguson hoped to address the matter in her bill by enabling a sheriff to make legally enforceable recommendations where appropriate; in other words, the party at which the recommendation was aimed would be within Scottish jurisdiction and the recommendation would be capable of being enforced. As currently drafted, Ms Ferguson’s bill does not make that as clear as it could be but, during the committee’s evidence-taking session on her bill, Ms Ferguson mentioned amendments to the bill, and I think that that would have been the effect of those amendments. If that solution is not enforceable, we urge the Government to consider how enforceability can be strengthened under its own proposals, because we believe that that is still an omission in the bill that will lead to the distress of families whose loved ones have died in those particular circumstances.

Scottish Labour will vote for the bill at stage 1, but we do so very much in the hope that some of the suggestions that have been made by our colleague Patricia Ferguson in her bill will be included as amendments at stages 2 and 3.

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Jayne Baxter (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
A discussion of fatal accident inquiries will inevitably be emotive. Families who have experienced the loss of a loved one often seek nothing more than an ex...
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP) SNP
On 29 January 2009, Colin Love went for a swim beside a beautiful beach on Margarita Island in Venezuela. I have mentioned Colin previously in the chamber. H...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I have just joined the Justice Committee, so I was not part of the bill’s stage 1 scrutiny. I have listened with interest to the debate, and I have found it ...
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
As a layperson—that is, a non-lawyer who is not a member of the Justice Committee—I do not propose to talk much about the technicalities of the bill. Instead...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
The bill is technical but, as Mike MacKenzie eloquently highlighted, no one in the debate has lost sight of its human element. We would do so at our cost—it ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Before we move to the closing speeches, I invite all members who have taken part in the debate to join us for them. 16:32
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I, too, welcome the opportunity to speak in this stage 1 debate on the Inquiries into Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths etc (Scotland) Bill. It is clear that...
Elaine Murray Lab
Fatal accident inquiries are inquiries into the circumstances of a death that are undertaken in the public interest to determine the time, place and cause of...
Christine Grahame SNP
I will give a hypothetical example. Let us say that a young mother who is suffering from severe postnatal depression and who has not been given the appropria...
Elaine Murray Lab
Indeed—and I think that there was a recent case of that type. However, an example does not provide a definition. In that case, the public interest is easier ...