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Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab): Lab Chamber
26 May 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill
As convener of the Equal Opportunities Committee, I am pleased to speak in the debate. The bill represents a landmark for the committee, as it was the first time that we had been designated as a lead committee on primary legislation. The bill's sensitive subject matter and the...
Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab): Lab Chamber
03 Mar 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will speak to the Equal Opportunities Committee's report, but I start by thanking the minister for her moving speech and her commitment to getting rid of FGM in Scotland. I also thank my fellow committee members, the committee clerks and the witnesses who gave evidence durin...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Paragraph 4 of the policy memorandum that accompanies the bill states:"No religion requires female genital mutilation, and the practice is not limited to any religious group."However, religion is still given as a reason for carrying out FGM. Do you believe that the new law wil...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you think that the discussion around FGM and the publicity that comes with it will help to give people information and ammunition to stop their children having FGM in the future, or that they will help to change cultures? At the start, it was clearly said that female genita...
The Convener: Lab Committee
18 Jan 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In its submission, Amnesty International suggested including in the bill two additional offences—attempted FGM and incitement to FGM. Do you have any views on including those two additional offences in the bill? I am thinking particularly of incitement.
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Can you describe briefly for the committee how FGM can affect girls and women on whom the procedure is carried out?
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We will try to cover as much of that as possible. Our gender reporter Elaine Smith will pick up some of the issues that we do not deal with. That takes us to my next question. Paragraph 4 of the policy memorandum that accompanies the bill notes:"No religion requires female gen...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In your experience, where does the pressure to undertake FGM come from? Does it come from the communities in which it takes place or from any group in or section of a community? If so, how should we deal that? How do we contact communities? You said that what is required is no...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome representatives of the Somali women's action group and their interpreter. If committee members ask questions too quickly and you need more time to interpret what has been said, or if you are not absolutely clear about the question, please tell us. Sometimes we get so...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In your experience, from where in communities does the cultural pressure to carry out FGM come? Does it come from particular groups or sections of the community? How can we challenge the tradition?Witnesses spoke in Somali.
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So it is more important to tell people that the practice is not healthy and is not good for the children. The issue is about protecting the children and trying to change the culture, rather than saying, "FGM is illegal. You can't do it."
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We want to stop people taking their children abroad for FGM.
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
How aware of FGM issues are the health professionals who work in the communities? We are finding that often the health professionals, as much as communities, need awareness training and education on particular issues. How much information do they have? Do you think that you ne...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 2004
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill<br />(Witness Expenses)
Item 2 concerns witness expenses. A number of the groups that are giving evidence on FGM are small voluntary groups with limited resources. Is the committee happy to delegate to me the authority to authorise payments for expenses?Members indicated agreement.
The Convener: Lab Committee
18 Jan 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What do you think about the terminology that is used? Some people would prefer that the word "circumcision" was used in the bill rather than "mutilation". Is it important to make that change? What effect would such a change be likely to have on the communities that practise FGM?
The Convener: Lab Committee
18 Jan 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will start by asking about terminology. What is your view on the change of terminology in the law, from the use of "circumcision" to "mutilation"? Is it important to make that change? How is it likely to affect communities that practise FGM?
The Convener: Lab Committee
18 Jan 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Will the new law protect girls and women from FGM and will it provide more protection than the existing law does?
The Convener: Lab Committee
01 Feb 2005
Items in Private
Do members also agree to take in private items on our report on the FGM bill at future meetings?Members indicated agreement.
The Convener: Lab Committee
01 Feb 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On the nature of the consultation, did the process consist only of a published call for written responses or did the Executive hold consultation discussions with particular groups and, if so, with which groups? Given that a small, specific group of people in Scotland is likely...
The Convener: Lab Committee
03 May 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The committee feels strongly about the issue of re-infibulation. The minister has indicated his interest in looking at the work in which Comfort Momoh has been involved. Guidance is important, but some of the work that she has done has been about informing communities about th...
The Convener: Lab Committee
09 May 2006
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Act 2005
We had anticipated that resources would be available to deal with some of the issues around FGM. The short-term nature of the resources is perhaps not what we expected. I invite further comments. Paragraph 7 of the clerk's paper says:"Members will note from the letter from the...
Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab): Lab Chamber
26 May 2005
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I welcome Sylvia Jackson's comments. It is unusual to request that provisions be introduced through instruments that are subject to the affirmative procedure. However, we all know that the definition of FGM might well change, so the Equal Opportunities Committee was keen for t...
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Chamber

Plenary, 26 May 2005

26 May 2005 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill
As convener of the Equal Opportunities Committee, I am pleased to speak in the debate. The bill represents a landmark for the committee, as it was the first time that we had been designated as a lead committee on primary legislation. The bill's sensitive subject matter and the vulnerability of the people at risk from FGM, as well as the devastating and irreversible impact that FGM can have on the lives of those whom it affects, presented us with a real challenge. I am pleased to say that the committee and its clerking team rose to that challenge. As a result of our detailed scrutiny, I am confident that we have made improvements that strengthen the bill's provisions.

During stage 1, we heard a considerable volume of evidence from a range of people who are involved in the issues that the bill covers, and we became convinced of the need to make specific changes both to enhance the clarity of the provisions and to increase the protection that they aim to provide.

Initially, concerns were raised that certain changes to the bill could not be made because they might lead to legislative inconsistencies with provisions in the rest of the UK. However, from the evidence that we received at stage 1, certain issues emerged that we felt had to be explored further, even if that did result in inconsistencies with similar legislation passed at Westminster.

Through continued dialogue with the Executive, we managed to achieve several improvements to the bill. I pay tribute to the Deputy Minister for Justice and his officials for listening to the committee and working with us to improve the bill. The exercise is a positive example of how committees and the Executive can work together to improve legislation.

I will describe how a few of the committee's key concerns were resolved. FGM is most often performed on young girls. In evidence, concern was expressed that child protection services might not be able to act to protect a child if FGM was suspected, so I welcome the Executive's stage 2 amendment to give potential FGM cases priority in the child protection system.

Evidence to the committee made it clear that protecting asylum seeker children is an issue. We were happy to see a stage 2 amendment to prevent UK nationals from performing FGM on non-UK nationals outside the UK. That change is significant. As we have heard, it goes far beyond the existing UK legislation. That sends the important message that, whenever possible, we in the Scottish Parliament will seek to enhance legislation from an equalities perspective.

The definition of FGM in the bill caused us concern. At stage 1, we heard evidence that the definition should mirror the World Health Organisation definition. We were pleased that the Executive lodged amendments at stages 2 and 3 to reflect more accurately the FGM procedures that are set out in the WHO definition. I also welcome the Executive's acceptance of the committee's stage 2 amendment on the definition of FGM.

The committee was firmly of the view that the provisions should outlaw the practice of reinfibulation following childbirth. Doubt had been expressed about whether the bill covered that procedure, so I welcome the minister's assurance in a letter to the committee that the bill will outlaw reinfibulation. I also welcome the commitment of the minister and the Executive to work with health professionals to produce guidance and ensure that no confusion is felt in the medical profession about the legality of some medical procedures.

The Equal Opportunities Committee worked on the bill diligently and with commitment. I thank our first-class clerking team and my committee colleagues for all their hard work and dedication to the issue. In particular, I thank Elaine Smith, who, in her role as gender reporter, met the Somali women's action group twice, which ensured that the group's valuable and extremely relevant views were taken into account. I compliment committee members on their responsible and consensual approach to considering this important equalities issue.

It is fair to say that the committee's scrutiny of the bill greatly improved it. The bill as introduced closely mirrored a private member's bill that was passed at Westminster. The work that the committee and the Scottish Executive did greatly clarified the bill and will provide those who work on issues that relate to FGM with a clear set of guidelines to follow. The bill will enhance the protection for all women and children in Scotland who are at risk of FGM. Our Westminster colleagues may wish to examine the bill, which we hope to pass, and amend their legislation accordingly.

The bill will not only continue protection of women who are at risk of FGM, but ensure that children also have the protection to which they are entitled. I am proud and pleased to support the bill.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Trish Godman): Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S2M-2772, in the name of Cathy Jamieson, that the Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation (Scotland) Bill be...
The Deputy Minister for Justice (Hugh Henry): Lab
The bill will provide better legal protection against female genital mutilation. Such mutilation has been a specific offence for the past 20 years, under the...
Ms Sandra White (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
I thank the clerks to the Equal Opportunities Committee, who have worked hard and are a dedicated team. I also thank the many witnesses who gave evidence and...
Mrs Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con): Con
I am pleased that this important bill, which has attracted cross-party support throughout its parliamentary progress, has now reached the stage when it will ...
Nora Radcliffe (Gordon) (LD): LD
I begin by adding my thanks to all the witnesses whose evidence helped us to refine and improve the bill, and by thanking the minister, his officials and our...
Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab): Lab
As convener of the Equal Opportunities Committee, I am pleased to speak in the debate. The bill represents a landmark for the committee, as it was the first ...
Shiona Baird (North East Scotland) (Green): Green
I look forward to the bill's passing on two grounds. First, it is hoped that the legislation will go a long way towards outlawing the unacceptable practice a...
Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab): Lab
I thank the convener of the Equal Opportunities Committee, the clerking team, the Scottish Executive's team and the many organisations such as UNIFEM—the Uni...
Frances Curran (West of Scotland) (SSP): SSP
We should welcome the bill—it is a good bill, which I hope will make a difference to the lives of ordinary women. The bill will add to a growing worldwide un...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab
As we have heard, the bill proposes to extend protection by giving the offences that it outlaws extraterritorial effect to protect women and children who are...
Lord James Douglas-Hamilton (Lothians) (Con): Con
I rise to speak in the debate to give strong support to the bill.So far, almost every speaker has been a woman; I speak not as a man but as a member of the h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
We now move to wind-up speeches.
Phil Gallie (South of Scotland) (Con): Con
My role today is that of the Conservative member of the Equal Opportunities Committee. I did not participate in the committee's stage 1 investigations becaus...
Linda Fabiani (Central Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I am not a member of the Equal Opportunities Committee, but I am impressed by the way in which the committee carried out its inquiry. From what I have read a...
Hugh Henry: Lab
This has been a good debate. It has also been a difficult and emotive one. Many speakers this afternoon and during the passage of the bill quoted the powerfu...
Rosie Kane (Glasgow) (SSP): SSP
Does the minister agree that the woman in the case that Frances Curran outlined in her speech should be eligible for asylum because, if she is sent back, her...
Hugh Henry: Lab
No, I could not. As Rosie Kane knows, the matter that she is referring to relates to a reserved power. Today, I am concentrating on the positive contribution...