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Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
18 Dec 2014
Welfare Reform and the Smith Commission
I am pleased to take part in this debate. As I am a very recent arrival in the Welfare Reform Committee, my colleague Mr Johnstone will cover the reports to which he contributed as a committee member. I look forward to being on the committee and working with Mr McMahon. He ma...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
20 Jan 2015
Tackling Inequalities
This has been a contrasting debate of many shades of opinion—some predictable, yet some unexpected and perhaps from unexpected parts of the chamber. I want to set the backdrop. We are emerging stronger from one of the most significant economic downturns of modern times and th...
Annabel Goldie Con Chamber
12 Nov 2015
Social Security in Scotland (Future Delivery)
I thank Hugh Henry for making that point. That issue has been raised elsewhere, and my understanding is that there would be no attempt to claw back and that the universal credit provision would be provided in its own right. However, I will seek clarification on that for Hugh H...
Annabel Goldie Con Chamber
18 Dec 2014
Welfare Reform and the Smith Commission
My understanding is that the spirit behind the Smith commission, with which the five parties were in agreement, is that “top-up” means what it says. We cannot top up something that is not there already. The understanding is that top-up will be an additional and supplementary s...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
03 Feb 2015
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Scotland
I was struck by the last observation, convener, because I think that round the table at this committee there would be unanimity about one thing. We would love to be in a situation in which we were not discussing people having to rely on welfare support, and in which sanctions ...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Mar 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill
The debate has been genuinely interesting. There have been moments of exchange and passion, and it represents the conclusion of an important and interesting process for a number of reasons. The bill’s scrutiny, which was embarked on by the Welfare Reform Committee, followed t...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
14 Mar 2013
Children and Young People
I appreciate how passionately the member feels about welfare reform, but many millions of families will be better off with the universal credit. The Department for Work and Pensions has estimated that 350,000 children and 500,000 adults will be lifted out of poverty. Therefore...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
13 Jan 2015
Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Communities and Pensioners’ Rights
On the scale of the changes that are coming, I appreciate that some members of the committee, and no doubt the cabinet secretary too, feel that the welfare changes proposed under the Smith agreement are not enough. I respect their right to hold that view, although I do not agr...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
Good morning, Professor Fothergill. Page 7 of the report says: “In estimating the impact of the welfare reforms the report holds all other factors constant.” Is that a reliable assumption to make? The unemployment level in Scotland has been falling, thankfully, and the emplo...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
You observe that, against falling inflation, the 1 per cent uprating is not delivering a saving. Is it not the converse of that to say that, in that context, the uprating is a benefit to a welfare claimant, because the alternative would have been to apply a lower inflation rate?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
I have a couple more questions. Table 3 on page 12 of the report is entitled “Groups typically most affected by individual welfare reforms”. Under child benefit, you say: “All households with children (a little)” and “Households with higher earners (a lot)”. Where does yo...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
That is helpful, Mr Gaw. Perhaps you can also help to clarify something I was not clear about from your responses to Mr Stewart’s questions. Do you believe that the welfare system should operate without sanctions, or is your concern about the way that the sanctions operate?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
That is more to do with operational issues. I was genuinely interested in whether you wanted a welfare system without sanctions.
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
A lot of what I was going to ask about has been covered, and I will not duplicate the process. I was struck by the recurring theme in all the submissions of training in jobcentres and better availability of advice to claimants, and by the point that Bill Scott raised on the p...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
I have a couple of questions, in fact. One is for Hanna McCulloch and refers to the written evidence from the Child Poverty Action Group. I was interested in your comment calling for “Increased investment in the Scottish Welfare Fund”. Do you have any sense of the increase t...
Annabel Goldie Con Chamber
16 Sep 2015
Scotland’s Future, Democracy and Devolution
I want to make progress, if the member will forgive me. In the more detailed analysis of the Scotland Bill by the Devolution (Further Powers) Committee, the committee was principally concerned about four primary issues: the permanence of the Scottish Parliament; the Sewel con...
Annabel Goldie Con Chamber
02 Sep 2015
Programme for Government 2015-16
I leave that to my colleagues who know something about it. Laughter. I am sure that the consultation will be much enhanced by that approach. What was notable about the First Minister’s speech was not the lengthy list of proposals, intentions and aspirations and the eight bill...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
16 Mar 2016
Scotland Bill
This is not my final speech—I understand that that will take place next week—but, in a sense, the bill encapsulates a journey for me that has involved a marked change in my views since 1999 and a significant development in the life of this institution. In a way, the bill bring...
The Convener: Con Committee
20 Jan 2004
Petitions
The third agenda item is consideration of four petitions, the first of which is petition PE347, from Mr Kenneth Mitchell, on the practice of shoeing Clydesdale horses. In that connection, members should find a letter from the Scottish Executive attached to their papers; they s...
The Convener: Con Committee
20 Jan 2004
Petitions
I have a letter from Sylvia Jackson to me as convener. I have only with recent effect received the letter so I will arrange for it to be copied and given to members. I will, for the purposes of the meeting, summarise what she says.The letter refers to our consideration of the ...
The Convener: Con Committee
20 Jan 2004
Petitions
If I understand the final paragraph of the Executive's letter correctly, it seems to me implicit that a bill that is to be called the animal health and welfare bill must be fairly wide in application. Indeed, the minister has confirmed that"the scope of this legislation could ...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
13 Jan 2015
Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Communities and Pensioners’ Rights
I noticed his reference to that, which was rather discomforting to me. However, I apologise for the lack of clarification earlier. Cabinet secretary, it might surprise you to learn that I found myself agreeing with a considerable element of what you said. Two of your early ob...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I have a lot of sympathy with both the intention and objectives of both amendments 24 and 30, but I have a technical concern. What is the sanction if a claimant feels that a local authority has failed to discharge its duties in accordance with the proposed provisions? I ask th...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I have no doubt whatsoever about the good intentions behind the amendment, but I return to my observations about amendment 24, in the name of Margaret McDougall. I want local authorities to have the widest possible latitude and discretion in how they meet need, but I am worrie...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Am I allowed to intervene?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I was merely pointing out that if amendment 24 in Margaret McDougall’s name had been accepted we would have created a paradox, because on one hand we would be saying to a local authority that it must consider the applicant’s particular needs and choices—which might be for good...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am going to give Mr Macintosh some perhaps unexpected encouragement. I wanted to listen to the debate. I think that he has identified a category of circumstance that could be of great distress to an individual or family but is not covered adequately by the provisions as they...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Can I just clarify whether the effect of the amendment would also be to exclude charitable organisations?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I seek clarification, convener. Has the Scottish Government obtained specific legal advice that the bill as framed would contravene European law?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
No. There is a point of principle about the freedom of local authorities, so I do not support the amendment.
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I would like clarification. Your proposition sounds quite technical, but if I understand it correctly it would bring the situation into line with the proven DWP approach, which has worked effectively with a 24-hour processing time.
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 31 seems to be a genuine attempt to provide transparency. We are talking about an important new system and none of us is sure just how it will work in practice, although we hope that it will work well. The amendment is a welcome proposal to assist us all in understan...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
It was an explanation—yes.
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
I thank you for the explanation. I will ask you about another constant that you have observed. There is the difficult issue of what it means if people who are in work get increased benefit from higher personal tax allowances. I noticed the figure that you used. You thought th...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
Is that £1,500 where there is one parent or two parents?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
For those who are earning between £50,000 and £60,000—
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
I am interested in table 1 on page 7. It is not quite clear to me whether it shows an arithmetical extrapolation from all the data that you have gathered. Under the heading “Loss per working age adult”, the list of figures produces a total of £440. Could I meet such an adult i...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
I am just wondering how meaningful a statistical concept it is.
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
Please do not misunderstand me—I think that your report is fascinating and contains very useful data. However, I do not quite understand what table 1 is telling us. What does it do to help us?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
Thank you very much.
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
I have been struck by the number of times the witnesses have referred to intervention or early identification of a problem. I was particularly interested in Ms Kinsella’s submission, which laid out a range of processes and procedures that are all about collaboration, consultat...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
And it is being rolled out—
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
So you regard it as a very positive process.
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
I presume that, out of the service, you can pick up possible referral routes that the individual may be unaware of. For example, I was interested to see that you have made local authority requests to the DWP for direct rental payments. Was that because you recognised that that...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
That is very helpful. In amongst all the engagement, the consultation and the partnership initiatives, what was your relationship with the DWP? Did you manage to engage with it?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
So those meetings are every month.
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
I was interested in the submission from Highland Council but, to avoid the gentlemen feeling excluded, I will ask them this: from what you have heard, are examples of such practice being replicated in Edinburgh, North Ayrshire or Glasgow? 11:45
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
How often do those meetings take place in North Ayrshire?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
If you thought that a practice was developing whereby claimants were being adversely affected by the application of sanctions, could you raise that at those meetings?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
So you spoke about a sanction information pack.
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
That is helpful. Are you able to comment in relation to Edinburgh, Mr Gaw?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
Does Mr Gaw’s view reflect those of the three other witnesses?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
Well, in a sense we are, convener, but a lot of—
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
That is helpful, convener—thank you. I was interested in clarifying one or two points merely because Mr Stewart perfectly legitimately asked fairly extensive questions about sanctions. Mr Gaw made an interesting observation. Food banks are contentious: on the one hand, they a...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
At the moment, we have the highest-ever number of women in employment in Scotland and the number of children in households with no work at all is at its lowest level ever, which is encouraging in the sense that something positive is happening. However, I was very struck by wha...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
Yes—that is helpful. Does either of the other two witnesses wish to add to that?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
Could I ask another question, convener? Is that permissible?
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
That is helpful. Finally, I have a question for Mr Ballard. Did I understand you correctly when you said that the sort of changes that could be made by the DWP now are matters of practice and protocol? Is that correct, particularly in relation to the sanctions regime and its ...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
09 Jun 2015
Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Communities and Pensioners’ Rights
Moving on to something that interests me greatly, cabinet secretary, I was encouraged by your opening remarks on co-location when we have a system of devolved and reserved welfare provision. Margaret McDougall pursued the point. I am encouraged by the idea. Am I correct in say...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Nov 2015
Trident
The debate has been, in some senses, predictably partisan, but there have also been some reflective observations. An issue such as this one will always raise strong passions. At the extremes are people who identify themselves as being absolutely against nuclear weapons, while ...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 18 December 2014

18 Dec 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Welfare Reform and the Smith Commission

I am pleased to take part in this debate.

As I am a very recent arrival in the Welfare Reform Committee, my colleague Mr Johnstone will cover the reports to which he contributed as a committee member. I look forward to being on the committee and working with Mr McMahon. He may not know what to expect from me, but he might find himself pleasantly surprised. I hope that I can make a positive contribution to the committee’s work.

The committee has done and is doing very important work and is identifying important issues. One of the great roles of the committees of the Parliament is to consider, when work has been done and evidence has been produced, what can be done to use that leverage or discoveries to influence change. That is where the committee may have a very important role to play.

I want to focus on the Smith commission report, which I am a little more familiar with than I am with the work of the Welfare Reform Committee. As Mr McMahon said, that report implies substantial changes. It is three weeks to the day since it was published. In tune with the new theme of consensus in the Parliament, I have enjoyed the positive response to it, which has been obvious from all the five political parties that are represented in the chamber. I accept that the minister’s party considers that it does not go far enough, although at the same time her colleague Nicola Sturgeon has gone out of her way to say that she thinks that what has been delivered by Smith is positive.

I remember that, when I first came to the Parliament, there was a huge sense of excitement and optimism about how the Parliament would operate and would use its new powers. I detect in the Holyrood air that those same feelings are brewing now—there is a mixture of excitement, anticipation and ambition. The question that we are all asking ourselves and one another is: what can we do with the new powers to improve life in Scotland?

As we talk about the Welfare Reform Committee’s latest reports, it is timely to look at the Smith proposals and ask what the committee and the Parliament can look forward to achieving with the new powers. As we know, an element of devolution on welfare has already occurred, arising out of the Welfare Reform Act 2012. On Tuesday, the Parliament debated stage 1 of the Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill, a debate to which my colleague Mr Johnstone contributed. It is good that the Parliament is taking the opportunity to put an interim arrangement on to a statutory footing.

I know that not everyone will agree with me—that is pretty clear from the speeches that we have heard already—but the aim of the Welfare Reform Act 2012 was to reform the benefits system and introduce a new system that is fairer, simpler and more affordable. Although I accept that not every aspect of the reforms has been well received—that is pretty clear—I have to make the important point that it would be hard to find opposition anywhere to the principle that the system needed reform. Most acknowledge that reform was necessary and overdue.

I fully acknowledge that the issues then become ones of the implementation and management of change. That is where the committee is doing important work. The whole point of the reform is to help people to get back into work, to reduce dependency on the state and, in tandem with increased personal allowances and changes to the tax system, to enable people to make individual choices about what they do with their money, rather than simply having to hand it to the taxman to be given it back in the form of prescribed benefits.

I know that the Scottish Parliament does not always see eye to eye with Westminster but, beyond the rhetoric, there is an important point. The political landscape is different here and, more importantly, our electors in Scotland have a different set of needs. I recognise that they have different preferences from those of other members of the family of nations that is the United Kingdom. Therefore, the time between now and the delivery of the Parliament’s new powers is when the hard work should start. We should debate how we can design a welfare system for Scotland within the United Kingdom, bearing in mind that, back in September, we voted to keep Scotland in the United Kingdom.

My party will contribute to that debate. I want a system that is compassionate and flexible and one that is effective in helping people into work. I want a system that measures itself not by the size of the welfare bill but by how many people are helped back to work and can then support themselves and contribute to the broader economy.

I am excited about how the Parliament will manage its new competencies. There are proposals in the Smith agreement on disability living allowance, the personal independence payment and the regulated social fund as well as on the ability to top up existing benefits and create new ones. Those are real, exciting and important choices.

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The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
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Michael McMahon (Uddingston and Bellshill) (Lab) Lab
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Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
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Michael McMahon Lab
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The Minister for Housing and Welfare (Margaret Burgess) SNP
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Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab) Lab
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Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
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Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
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Annabel Goldie Con
My understanding is that the spirit behind the Smith commission, with which the five parties were in agreement, is that “top-up” means what it says. We canno...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
We now come to the open debate. Speeches should be a maximum of six minutes, please. 15:20
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to talk about welfare for the second time this week. I might repeat some of the things that the committee’s convener has ju...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the Welfare Reform Committee’s “Interim Report on the New Benefit Sanctions Regime: Tough Love or Tough Luck?” and I agree with its findings that t...
Linda Fabiani (East Kilbride) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Cara Hilton Lab
I do not have time. Ultimately this debate is not and should not be about powers. This is about political will. It is our actions, not our constitution, tha...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
The people of Scotland, especially the poorest and most vulnerable, are being battered and assaulted by benefit cuts and confronted by the bedroom tax and th...
Siobhan McMahon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to take part in the debate. I, too, thank the Welfare Reform Committee, not only for publishing the reports and securing a debate on the matter ...
Linda Fabiani (East Kilbride) (SNP) SNP
I speak today as a former member of the Welfare Reform Committee. I welcome Michael McMahon’s opening speech. Its content was certainly in the spirit of what...
Ken Macintosh Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Linda Fabiani SNP
No, thank you. I suspect that members of the Welfare Reform Committee are a bit sceptical about that, too. That is not to do down what we hope will come out...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to have another opportunity this week to contribute to the debate on welfare reform and the Smith commission. I welcome the findings in the Welf...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Although I am now a member of the Welfare Reform Committee, I was not at the time that these reports were produced and I pay tribute to the MSPs who were inv...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
We move to the closing speeches. I call Alex Johnstone, who has six minutes. 16:05
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
In Scotland, we are extremely lucky to be part of the United Kingdom—an economy that is now growing faster than any other economy in the developed world. Con...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Draw to a close, please.
Linda Fabiani SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
The member is closing.
Alex Johnstone Con
—but those who will pay for them, too. That is a challenge that will keep us thinking for many years to come. 16:12
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to make some concluding remarks on behalf of the Labour Party on this committee-initiated debate. The committee’s report is excelle...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Mr Simpson give way?
Dr Simpson Lab
No, I have not even got started. Whoever had been in power would have had to make difficult and often unpopular choices at UK, Scottish and local authority ...