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Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
25 Jun 2003
Modernising Justice
First, may I thank the minister for her kind remarks and wish her well in her ministerial position. I do not know what the watching public will make of three harridans occupying briefs on justice and home affairs. I should also declare my interests for the purposes of this deb...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
31 May 2012
Scotland’s Future
Having been in the Scottish Parliament since 1999, I suppose that I should not be surprised by this debate. As many do, I feel that the SNP independence project has been around for a long time: but then, it has been around for a long time.I recall the SNP rhetoric of the past ...
Annabel Goldie Con Chamber
20 Jun 2012
Women and Work
The debate has been short, but extremely useful. Mary Fee set the tone with an eloquent critique of the broad issues and rightly referred to the evidence that the committee took on 21 February, in trade union week. After that, it seemed to me that issues came in thick and fast...
Miss Goldie: Con Committee
12 Sep 2001
Lifelong Learning Inquiry
Alex Neil, Bill Butler and I went to Dumfries and Galloway College and the Crichton campus, where we were warmly received. A great deal of thought had been given to our visits to ensure that maximum use was made of time so that the relevant and worthwhile material could be pre...
Miss Goldie: Con Committee
30 Oct 2002
Work Programme
I was conscious of the time scale and of our bitter experience that it is so easy to take on too much. Given that we now have a tight time scale, we should be capable of focusing on whatever we decide to do in reasonable detail and of producing a report before the time is up i...
The Convener: Con Committee
16 Mar 2004
Antisocial Behaviour etc (Scotland) Bill (Leak Inquiry)
Item 3 relates to the Antisocial Behaviour etc (Scotland) Bill and in particular to our committee's draft stage 1 report on the bill. Members may recall that, as we met to finalise matters on the report, we were aware of an article in a Sunday newspaper that at first sight see...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
17 Feb 2000
Law Officers
Unlike the First Minister, I am tight for time. What about the manner of Lord Hardie's going at this time of crisis, a phrase that I repeat without apology? The going gets tough, and clear, firm guidance is needed at this testing time from the Lord Advocate. He is the principa...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
02 Oct 2003
Antisocial Behaviour
This debate is aptly entitled. Can there be many more antisocial, anti-fruitful or anti-functional forms of parliamentary proceedings than occupying MSPs for a whole day with no motion to address, no opportunity to lodge amendments reflecting different views and no vote to dec...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
11 Dec 2003
Public Services
It is my pleasure to contribute to this debate on the general theme of improving the provision of our public services. As David McLetchie has indicated, those services go to the heart of what the public in any civilised and responsible society is entitled to expect. Nowhere is...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
08 Dec 2005
Criminal Justice Plan
I was lulled into leisurely retrospection this morning and almost convinced myself that I was in a time machine and had found myself back in 2000. That was until I listened to Mr MacAskill and wondered where on earth a debate on the criminal justice plan of this devolved Parli...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
09 Mar 2006
Drug Abuse
I thank the Presiding Officer for his explanation of the technical point about the amendment in the name of Hugh Henry. If amendments are inaccurate, that is slightly confusing for parties that are to contribute to a debate and makes it a little difficult to consider what the ...
Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
08 Sep 2010
Scottish Government’s Programme
The statement that we heard from the First Minister this afternoon is not just the final legislative agenda from the Government, but the final nail in the coffin for Alex Salmond’s political credibility. It reeks of inertia, exhaustion, escapism and atrophy.Rhetoric is not eno...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
11 Jan 2012
Volunteer Centre East Dunbartonshire
I am pleased that my motion on the Volunteer Centre East Dunbartonshire has been selected for members’ business this evening. I thank the MSPs who have supported it, and I particularly appreciate the cross-party support. That reflects the wide appreciation by MSPs across the c...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
16 Mar 2016
Scotland Bill
This is not my final speech—I understand that that will take place next week—but, in a sense, the bill encapsulates a journey for me that has involved a marked change in my views since 1999 and a significant development in the life of this institution. In a way, the bill bring...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Mar 2016
Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill
I am delighted to participate in this afternoon’s proceedings on the Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill, which is the final piece of legislation that we will deal with in this session. From the contributions that have been made, there is a clear consensus that ...
The Deputy Convener: Con Committee
08 Oct 2002
Subordinate Legislation
On behalf of the committee, I welcome the Minister for Enterprise, Transport and Lifelong Learning to the meeting. We welcome the minister with particular warmth because it is his first appearance before the committee. It is perhaps unfortunate that he appears before us on wha...
The Convener: Con Committee
10 Jun 2003
Legacy Papers
It is unlikely that we will have another meeting before the recess. Whether we do so depends on the legislative programme, which, at the moment, comprises proposals that deal with three areas within the remit of the committee: vulnerable witnesses; antisocial behaviour orders;...
The Convener: Con Committee
11 Nov 2003
Antisocial Behaviour etc (Scotland) Bill
I agree—that is the logical place to do it. I am glad that the committee takes that view, as it would be strange not to have the opinion of the Minister for Justice.That brings us to timetabling. I hope that it was helpful to the committee to give a working illustration of the...
The Convener: Con Committee
11 Nov 2003
Proposed Youth Justice Inquiry
I have been looking at our diary. Provided—remember that "provided"—that we do not have to go back to the Parliamentary Bureau because of some problem with the time scale, the way will be clear to go ahead with the seminar. We will agree our final report on the Antisocial Beha...
The Convener: Con Committee
02 Dec 2003
Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Item 2 on our agenda is stage 2 consideration of the Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill. Members should have copies of the bill, the marshalled list of amendments and the suggested groupings of amendments. I welcome to the meeting Mr Hugh Henry, the Deputy Minister for Justi...
The Convener: Con Committee
27 Sep 2005
Management of Offenders etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank members and the minister for their contributions. From what has been said, I infer that there is no longer an objection in principle to ending automatic early release. That takes us a significant step forwards from the time when my party was alone in advocating that th...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
29 Sep 1999
Manufacturing and Industrial Strategy
I observe that, in the creation of the circumstances that are congenial to a vibrant manufacturing and industrial sector, certain conditions must apply. In fairness, the first signs were encouraging. Tony Blair said: "I would say that the new and right direction for Europe is ...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
11 Nov 1999
Millennium Date Change
I appreciate Mrs McLeod's comment and do not for one moment disagree with her. What I am saying is that this is a major issue that has been known about for a considerable period. In fairness to the minister— and I hope that I have made this point clear—it is the fullness of hi...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
08 Jun 2000
Local Economic Development
I acknowledge that, to some of my colleagues on the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee who are not in my party, I might seem an unlikely ambassador to represent the committee's views. Indeed, I can see the unease almost rising in their gorges as I speak. However, at th...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
29 Jun 2000
Question Time · Children's Health
The last time—indeed the only time—I was fit was when I was at school, because I had to play hockey and tennis, and even, on one memorable occasion, run a relay race. Is not it a matter for huge concern that Susan Deacon's colleagues in the Executive are content with such vari...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
12 Sep 2002
Scottish Economy
We are in a challenging time for the Scottish economy. Recession has hit us for the first time in 20 years. That the SNP should choose to debate the economy at this time is a welcome initiative. It is welcome because—I cannot help but notice—the debate is only the second on th...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
19 Nov 2003
Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Nonetheless, it is immensely enjoyable. Presiding Officer, I am trying to accommodate your desire to keep the chamber occupied for the duration of the debate.I come now to territory that is a little more congenial to the minister. For witnesses who come forward and are vulnera...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
10 Feb 2005
Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service
The Executive has chosen to have a subject debate on the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service; I say the Executive, because of course the Executive has the majority will on the Parliamentary Bureau. The use of the term "debate" is questionable, because there is no motion...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
23 Feb 2006
First Minister's Question Time · Cabinet (Meetings)
The First Minister refuses to admit that when targets are not met—two targets have not been met—and the national health service fails to deliver, it is the poorest people who get the roughest end of the stick.Research by the former number 10 adviser, Julian Le Grand, and the D...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
09 Mar 2006
First Minister's Question Time · Cabinet (Meetings)
I am grateful to the First Minister and, once again, I wish to say that I think that progress is being made. The key point about this issue was made by Professor Neil McKeganey. He said that people with money can afford choice and that having that choice means that they tend n...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
04 May 2006
First Minister's Question Time · Cabinet (Meetings)
I think that there are many who would hope that Scottish Enterprise had the same primitive grasp of arithmetic that the First Minister has. The public will be little short of aghast at the level of financial mismanagement in an agency that is charged with improving Scotland's ...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
28 Sep 2006
First Minister's Question Time · Cabinet (Meetings)
At 12.12 on 28 September, the First Minister managed to sort of answer a question in the Parliament. For a week, the information that he has just given has apparently been known only to him. The people of Scotland will find it pathetic that it takes pressure from Opposition po...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
02 Nov 2006
First Minister's Question Time · Prime Minister (Meetings)
When they meet, I hope that the Prime Minister and the First Minister will discuss the proposals that were mooted in the report by the chief inspector of prisons that was published yesterday. The First Minister will be aware that, under his leadership, the people of Scotland a...
Miss Goldie: Con Chamber
09 Nov 2006
First Minister's Question Time · Cabinet (Meetings)
My colleagues and I certainly pay tribute to Mrs Donald, but I have to say to the First Minister that the people of Scotland would be astonished if the issue of automatic early release were not raised with him in the Parliament today. The matter is a political issue because po...
Annabel Goldie: Con Chamber
01 Nov 2007
First Minister's Question Time · Prime Minister (Meetings)
We will all find out in two weeks' time just how few extra police the First Minister's Government will give Scotland. We now know that it will not be the 1,000 extra officers that the First Minister promised in his manifesto. However short on numbers the budget announcement is...
Annabel Goldie: Con Chamber
26 Jun 2008
First Minister's Question Time · Secretary of State for Scotland
Many of us have good reasons to look forward to the recess, but respite from the historic concordat must be at the top of the list.I return to the hair-shirt opportunity that I am giving the First Minister to show a little humility, however alien an experience that may be for ...
Annabel Goldie: Con Chamber
04 Dec 2008
First Minister's Question Time · Secretary of State for Scotland (Meetings)
Two weeks ago, I challenged Nicola Sturgeon on the deeply disturbing issue of hospital-acquired infections. A lot of the recent discussion has understandably centred on one incident in one hospital, but our focus has to be wider and we must be proactive, not merely reactive. I...
Annabel Goldie: Con Chamber
28 May 2009
First Minister's Question Time · Prime Minister (Meetings)
Enough of the First Minister's fantasy, particularly on early release—here are the facts. Time and again the Conservatives in the Parliament have brought forward a vote to abolish automatic early release, only to be blocked every time by—yes—the Labour Party, the Liberal Democ...
Annabel Goldie: Con Chamber
25 Jun 2009
First Minister's Question Time · Prime Minister (Meetings)
That is just more hot air—more emissions from the First Minister. Heaven help our climate change targets.To return to the First Minister's broken promises, a flagship policy in his manifesto was:"Scotland can be smarter. It's time for … smaller class sizes and it's time to dum...
Annabel Goldie: Con Chamber
14 Jan 2010
First Minister's Question Time · Prime Minister (Meetings)
The First Minister is the King Canute of Scottish politics, presumably hoping that his wee tartan tootsies will not get wet.Time and again, the Conservatives have put on the table measures to save the Scottish budget a quarter of a billion pounds a year, but time and again the...
Annabel Goldie Con Chamber
24 Jun 2010
First Minister’s Question Time · Secretary of State for Scotland (Meetings)
The First Minister has always demonstrated a casual and arrogant attitude to taxpayers’ money. Time and again I have challenged him to be more responsible with the public’s cash, and time and again he has rejected my advice, which is why the Conservatives have forced the Gover...
Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
27 May 2010
Her Majesty’s Government (Relations)
I commence by intimating that I may have to withdraw from the debate before the conclusion of proceedings. I apologise for that, Presiding Officer. No discourtesy is intended to you or to members in the chamber, but I require to prepare for First Minister’s questions. I hope t...
Annabel Goldie Con Chamber
09 Jun 2011
First Minister’s Question Time · Secretary of State for Scotland (Meetings)
That was seven months ago. Tragically, in April, the same thing happened again. This time, a little boy from Crieff, aged three, died. He did not receive prompt medical attention, even though there was an ambulance only 10 minutes away. Again, the crew were on a tea break. App...
Annabel Goldie Con Chamber
07 Sep 2011
Scottish Government’s Legislative Programme
Thank you. Laughter. Reform of our public services is unavoidable. That is why it is perplexing to see that the Beveridge report, which is one of the most important contributions to the debate, is now more than a year old and gathering dust on the Scottish Government’s shelves...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
06 Jun 2012
Parliamentary Reform (Changes to Standing Orders)
I am for change, but not just for the sake of change—only when the case for change has been established. That is why I want to examine some of the proposals objectively. I will go back to some of the founding watchwords of the Parliament. It was to be family friendly, modern i...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
21 May 2014
Courts Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I declare a historic interest: once I was a solicitor. I remember that, even then, our sheriff court model attracted widespread admiration because of the flexibility of jurisdiction that it offered and, of course, because of the local provision of justice. That is what many of...
Annabel Goldie Con Committee
23 Jun 2015
Atos Healthcare and Salus
Thank you. Convener, the committee would find it helpful to be given an update on how the trial is going and on the proposed roll-out from that, depending on what the trial finds. The final area that I am interested in, which my colleague Christina McKelvie was also asking qu...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
28 Jan 2016
Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome today’s stage 1 debate on the Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill and echo the thanks that have already been expressed to the Justice Committee, for a substantial and thorough report, and to the witnesses and stakeholders who assiduously helped to infor...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Feb 2016
Scottish Elections (Dates) Bill: Stage 3
We in Parliament debate many highly charged and contentious issues, which are robustly discussed. However, the Scottish Elections (Dates) Bill is not one of them. As has been said, it is a short and straightforward bill. The twin proposals to shift the Scottish Parliament and...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Mar 2016
Families Affected by Murder and Culpable Homicide
I, too, am very pleased to participate in this members’ business debate, and I, too, thank Graeme Pearson for securing parliamentary time for such an important and worthwhile topic. Crime, from antisocial behaviour and housebreaking to the unimaginable horrors of child abuse,...
Miss Goldie: Con Committee
15 Sep 1999
Work Programme
To be slightly polemical, I think that item 4 is the most important subject. I did not choose it first because I think that it needs a lot more time than the period between now and Christmas. That is why I expressed a preference for item 9, on SMEs and rating revaluation. As a...
Miss Goldie: Con Committee
16 Jan 2002
Local Economic Forums
But what is a little more time, Mr McMillan? We are now talking of a time scale that is in excess of two years. The assessment of forum action plans that will follow on from the committee report raises more question marks than substantive ways forward. Are people just going to...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con Committee
04 Sep 2002
Tourism Inquiry
I apologise for being late. I hope that a message about my train reached the committee. Ken Macintosh and I made our way to Dumfries and Galloway. We seemed to spend much time driving at considerable speed, being piloted by Mr Mundell through the highways and byways of Dumfrie...
Miss Goldie: Con Committee
04 Sep 2002
External Meetings
My desire is to leave the situation as flexible as possible. I agree to the deletion of the reference to two external meetings. From time to time, the committee should determine the need, and where it must geographically go to address that need. We should not be tied to commen...
The Deputy Convener: Con Committee
08 Oct 2002
Additional Item
I apologise to members for a late intimation of an agenda item. Members will see it on the new agenda that has been circulated, referred to under items 1 and 5. I will give members a brief explanation of how this has arisen.You might recall that, some time ago, the committee c...
The Deputy Convener: Con Committee
08 Oct 2002
Subordinate Legislation
Is that sufficient? I am prepared to allow you a little more time. I think that Mr Quinan may require a little more time to speak.
The Convener: Con Committee
10 Jun 2003
Legacy Papers
The advice of the clerks is that we are having this meeting on a Tuesday merely to ensure that we fit in with the template for all committees' first meetings, which will take place today and tomorrow to ensure that everyone gets their work underway.There will have to be some c...
The Convener: Con Committee
24 Jun 2003
Budget Process 2004-05
The committee will certainly want to take oral evidence on the budget from the Minister for Justice and the Lord Advocate. Again, it will be the joint committee's responsibility to do so, but it is important in principle to get this committee to agree to the proposal. We will ...
The Convener: Con Committee
02 Sep 2003
Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We move on to item 2 on the agenda, which is the committee's requirement to consider the written evidence that we have received at stage 1 of the bill. By way of background information for members, the Parliamentary Bureau has agreed that stage 1 should be completed by 21 Nove...
The Convener: Con Committee
02 Sep 2003
Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There is consensus among those of us who are present that we would be willing to include SAMH. I have no problem with inviting the Law Society of Scotland. I should declare an interest, as I am a member of the Law Society, but that is incidental. In terms of time scale, I do n...
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Chamber

Plenary, 25 Jun 2003

25 Jun 2003 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Modernising Justice
First, may I thank the minister for her kind remarks and wish her well in her ministerial position. I do not know what the watching public will make of three harridans occupying briefs on justice and home affairs. I should also declare my interests for the purposes of this debate, as I am a member of the Law Society of Scotland, an enrolled solicitor and a partner in a law firm in Glasgow.

Like Nicola Sturgeon, I welcome the opportunity to debate measures announced by the Executive to improve the delivery of justice in Scotland. I particularly welcome the opportunity to debate the white paper, "Modernising Justice in Scotland: The reform of the High Court of Justiciary" and, in the time available, I will concentrate on it.

To some people, lawyers and modernisation might sound like improbable bedfellows, but Lord Bonomy's report raises important issues and modernisation, in its broadest sense, is overdue. I shall come back to that aspect later.

It is important that any proposals for change proceed on a proper analysis of the spectrum of justice and do not simply emerge from the powerful platform of lawyers talking to their own in a procedural microcosm.

The white paper commences with a commendable objective, stating that the aim is

"to reduce crime and reoffending".

My party certainly supports that objective. However, the objective also implies that the High Court element of the process is a part of a whole and not a free-standing component.

The process of criminal justice starts with someone with a sense of civic responsibility reporting criminal activity to the police and assuming that the police will be able quickly and competently to gather evidence and that the police will charge the perpetrator and set in train the necessary court procedure. The good citizen then assumes, likewise, that the court procedure will be discharged swiftly and that, if conviction of the perpetrator is the outcome, the conclusion will be the imposition of a sentence that fits the crime.

That process should produce fairness to the accused and reassurance to the victim and the civic-minded reporter of the incident that the criminal justice system works. However, I have to say that the public verdict on our criminal justice system is currently a little less charitable.

My party finds merit in the idea of increasing the sentencing power of the sheriff courts in jury cases from three to five years. Equally, we acknowledge that that will place a more onerous responsibility on our sheriffs and will add a significant work load to our sheriff courts, which already rank among the busiest courts in Europe. It is worth noting that such is the volume of criminal work in a sheriff court that a 20 per cent reduction in indictments in the High Court will represent only a 7 per cent increase in sheriff and jury cases. Against that, we have to consider a further increase in work load that will arise from the Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill that is currently before the Parliament.

It does not take a mathematical genius to work out that the sheriff courts will grind to a halt unless much more resource is allocated to them. I noticed the minister's hooked comment that some people might choose to make this a debate on resources but, frankly, if seismic changes of the sort that are proposed in the white paper are made, the consequences will be an increase in work for the sheriff courts and the resource implications of that will have to be considered. Quite simply, the courts could not function without some augmentation of personnel and infrastructure. I would like the minister to comment on that aspect and to inform the Parliament what the current estimate is for additional personnel—including, perhaps, new sheriffs—in the sheriff courts, once the new provisions are implemented.

My party welcomes an increase in the sentencing powers that are available to sheriffs for summary cases. I hope that that will not be lost sight of. I share Nicola Sturgeon's interest in Sheriff McInnes's forthcoming report on summary justice in the sheriff courts.

We welcome the principle of a mandatory preliminary hearing, provided that it does not become the route to adjournment and delay, not only because that would be undesirable but also because failure to bring a case for trial within 140 days for full committal before a sheriff would mean the release of the accused on bail regardless of the charges that the accused might face. Naturally, the public might have an interest in that. Equally, we support, in principle, sentence discount for early plea, although the need for consistency is of paramount importance.

I noticed the minister's comment with reference to a judicial commission on sentencing. It will be interesting to learn the specific proposals for that commission, because a fundamental principle of the law of Scotland is that judicial discretion in sentencing is vital.

On the issue of the time that is spent by the accused on bail, Lord Bonomy proposed a new nine-month deadline for the case to go to a preliminary hearing, effectively requiring the Crown to issue the indictment within eight months. We support that and regret that the Executive has not had the courage to grasp that opportunity. If the Executive were to concede the principle of a reduction being possible, the reduction of the existing period from 11 to only 10 months would be much more attractive. The opportunity should have been seized and Lord Bonomy's proposal implemented.

I now come to two issues of profound concern, which—the minister will be disappointed to hear this—concern resourcing. They are the overall resourcing of the police and the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service.

The availability and swift provision of evidence to the prosecution depends upon the police being able to do their job timeously. The appalling recent disclosure that, due to time bar and delay by police or reporting agency, more than 17,000 cases were marked no proceedings in 2002-03 is the measure of the problem. Unless we resource the police properly, we can reform the High Court until the cows come home, but there will be no improvement. My party, as the minister is aware, supports a significant increase in resources for the police—an extra £45 million per annum.

The Lord Advocate described the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service as a cinderella department due to a great lack of resources. If lack of resources is masquerading as a catalyst for changes in procedure, that is not acceptable.

That brings me to the nub of my concerns—the proposal to extend the 110-day rule, whereby an accused may spend an extra 30 days in custody before coming to trial. A fundamental precept of Scots criminal law is that an accused person must not be allowed to languish in jail for an unreasonable time and that the prosecution should be given a reasonable time to prepare the case. That principle has reigned supreme for three centuries. The period was 100 days, and the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1887 increased it to 110 days. I find it remarkable that, in the days of Sir Walter Scott and the quill pen—before telephone, fax, e-mail and the internet had ever been heard of—prosecution and defence agents could bring cases to trial within 100 days, but in 2003, with communications technology undreamt of 300 years ago, we need 140 days to get a case ready for trial.

The reality is that an under-resourced police force and an under-resourced Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service are not being given the tools to do the job quickly. That is no excuse for sweeping away the 100-day rule. It is no justification for denying an accused, who may be innocent, his or her liberty for a further 30 days. That is not modernisation. It is repression and it is illiberal. I urge the minister to give that aspect of the proposals the most careful thought.

The Law Society of Scotland, in its response to Lord Bonomy's report, did not support extending the 110-day limit. I will quote from that response, which was prepared by the Law Society's criminal law committee:

"The Committee would suggest that the solution to the problem is not extending the time limit but rather in directing greater resources to solving the problem."

As a member of the Law Society, I am entitled to see that submission. I am somewhat filled with regret that the debate is taking place without full sight of a summary of the responses that were submitted to Lord Bonomy, although I appreciate that they are due to come out imminently.

The real modernisation that we need in the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service is the deployment of modern technology in all its forms to facilitate better and swifter engagement with defence representatives, professional witnesses and the panoply of personnel who are involved in a trial and thereby to expedite dispatch of cases comfortably within the 110-day period. That requires increased resources at every stage in the process. That is why I have lodged the amendment in my name.

I move amendment S2M-191.2, to leave out from "supporting" to end and insert:

"and, while welcoming proposals to make more efficient the processing and disposal of criminal cases, expresses concern at the proposed extension to the 110 day rule, the resources implication for sheriff courts of handling an increased workload and the continuing inadequacy of resources available to the police and the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service."

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid): NPA
The next item is a debate on motion S2M-191, in the name of Cathy Jamieson, on modernising justice, and two amendments to the motion.
The Minister for Justice (Cathy Jamieson): Lab
Before I begin, I offer my congratulations to the Opposition spokespersons, Annabel Goldie and Nicola Sturgeon, on their new roles. I am sure that we will ha...
Nicola Sturgeon (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
I congratulate Cathy Jamieson on her appointment as the Minister for Justice. I wish her well in that important role.I am delighted to see that Gordon Jackso...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab
I thank the member for giving way. Does she accept that Scotland is in an unusual position because, according to the Solicitor General, only China and Macedo...
Nicola Sturgeon: SNP
I accept the thrust of the member's intervention, but the point that I am trying to develop is that the main pressure on the system comes within the initial ...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con
First, may I thank the minister for her kind remarks and wish her well in her ministerial position. I do not know what the watching public will make of three...
Mrs Margaret Smith (Edinburgh West) (LD):
I welcome the minister to her new job. Indeed, I welcome all the spokespeople to their jobs. I am glad that Annabel Goldie did not include me in the list of ...
Miss Goldie: Con
Will Margaret Smith take an intervention?
Mrs Smith:
I will do my best with it.
Miss Goldie: Con
I accept the thrust of Margaret Smith's argument that legal tradition should not stand still and that the justice system must, like other things, be expected...
Mrs Smith:
That has to be a matter of concern. There have to be safeguards. We have a set of proposals, which will be opened up during the consultation period and the a...
Nicola Sturgeon: SNP
Will the member give way?
Mrs Smith:
No. I think that I am in my last minute. Is that right, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Murray Tosh): Con
I was going to call your final minute when you had spoken for seven minutes and 30 seconds.
Mrs Smith:
It is absolutely right that the courts observe strict time limits, but it is simply not acceptable to the people whom we represent that an accused should wal...
Colin Fox (Lothians) (SSP): SSP
As the Scottish Socialist Party's justice spokesperson, perhaps I could ask the representatives of the other parties what a harridan is. It seems to me that ...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab
The Executive's record on modernising justice is, I believe, healthy. It has transformed our approach to victims in the system; legislated on serious, violen...
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
I have taken an interest in the matter and I am concerned that the completion date has slipped; it now looks as if the centre will not be ready until the end...
Pauline McNeill: Lab
I thank the minister for that information.We must examine other disposals for women who come in front of sheriffs. I sit on the board of Routes Out of Prosti...
Mr Stewart Maxwell (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I welcome the publication of the white paper on court reform, but at the same time I must express concerns about some of what it contains.The white paper pro...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con
I regret very much that I am unable to help Mr Fox with the definition of "harridan". Despite Miss Goldie's earlier remarks, I would certainly not include th...
Kate Maclean (Dundee West) (Lab): Lab
I am happy to participate in today's debate about modernising justice and I am especially pleased by some of the High Court reforms that have been proposed.I...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green): Green
On behalf of the Green group, I welcome many of the aspects of the Executive's partnership agreement that relate to the justice system. I also welcome many o...
Donald Gorrie (Central Scotland) (LD): LD
Before I launch into the world of justice, I will try to do myself justice by correcting the record. I was recorded as not being present in the three votes t...
Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP): SNP
I join many other speakers in the chamber in welcoming a large number of the proposals that the minister has announced. If the measures can contribute to an ...
Karen Whitefield (Airdrie and Shotts) (Lab): Lab
It is fitting that one of the final debates before the recess should be on modernising the justice system. During the debate on the Executive's programme, I ...
Nicola Sturgeon: SNP
Does Karen Whitefield accept that the reforms that she is talking about can be made and we can avoid situations in which people escape justice on a technical...
Karen Whitefield: Lab
We will have an interesting debate on that matter. However, in 80 per cent of cases in which the defence successfully calls for an adjournment, the adjournme...
Margo MacDonald (Lothians) (Ind): Ind
I congratulate the Executive on the priority that it has given to the reform of the justice system, although I find myself in agreement with much of what Don...
Lord James Douglas-Hamilton (Lothians) (Con): Con
I mention my interest, as stated in the register of interests, as a non-practising Queen's counsel. Margo MacDonald is absolutely right to raise the issue of...