Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 02 May 2013
02 May 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Blacklisting
Like other MSPs, I commend Neil Findlay for securing this well-attended and well-supported debate.
For the record, I restate the Scottish Government’s position, which is that blacklisting is wholly unacceptable. The Scottish Government endorses the Health and Safety Executive’s comments; condemns any form of blacklisting of employees by employers for raising concerns about safety standards at work; and is totally opposed to blacklisting or the compilation of a blacklist on such a basis.
First of all, I want to address the most prominent issue that has been raised by Neil Findlay and other members. Although we as a Government acknowledge the call for a Scottish Government inquiry, we believe that it is appropriate for the Scottish Affairs Committee to conduct and conclude its inquiry into this issue. As we know, matters of employment law are reserved to the UK Government and the Scottish Government is not at this time convinced of the merits of holding another inquiry while the Scottish Affairs Committee’s investigation is on-going and its recommendations are pending.
For the record, I restate the Scottish Government’s position, which is that blacklisting is wholly unacceptable. The Scottish Government endorses the Health and Safety Executive’s comments; condemns any form of blacklisting of employees by employers for raising concerns about safety standards at work; and is totally opposed to blacklisting or the compilation of a blacklist on such a basis.
First of all, I want to address the most prominent issue that has been raised by Neil Findlay and other members. Although we as a Government acknowledge the call for a Scottish Government inquiry, we believe that it is appropriate for the Scottish Affairs Committee to conduct and conclude its inquiry into this issue. As we know, matters of employment law are reserved to the UK Government and the Scottish Government is not at this time convinced of the merits of holding another inquiry while the Scottish Affairs Committee’s investigation is on-going and its recommendations are pending.
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Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
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Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con)
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Neil Findlay
Lab
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Alex Johnstone
Con
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Lab
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Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
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Stewart Stevenson
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Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
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John Wilson (Central Scotland) (SNP)
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
You must draw to a close, please.
John Wilson
SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
You must close, please.
John Wilson
SNP
We must look closely at those contracts and end them as soon as possible.13:16
Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab)
Lab
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John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind)
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John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab)
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John Finnie
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Neil Findlay
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