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Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
23 Nov 2023
Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to this debate on the Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. Again, I make no apologies—and I do this every time—for using my short time in Parliament to consistently stand up for the ri...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
19 Mar 2026
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill
I begin by thanking the minister, not only for her willingness to work across the chamber, and directly with me, throughout the passage of the bill, but for the speech that she has just given. Her speeches are best when they come from the heart.That constructive engagement has...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
14 Jan 2026
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to speak in the stage 1 debate on the Children (Care, Care Experience and Service Planning) (Scotland) Bill—or the triple C ESP bill, as it was described to me the other day. As much as the bill is a welcome addition to the plethora of just-in-time bills that are...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Mar 2026
Contract (Formation and Remedies) (Scotland) Bill
It gives me pleasure to speak in the Parliament for stage 3 of the Contracts (Formation and Remedies) (Scotland) Bill on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. We will be supporting the bill at decision time.I often wonder if we truly take advantage of the powers that we have i...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
18 Dec 2024
Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to close the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. I add to those of others in the chamber my thanks for all the work done by clerks and staff, and by everyone who took part in taking the bill forward at stage 1. It has already been mentioned that we on...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
18 Dec 2025
Contract (Formation and Remedies) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It gives me pleasure to speak in the stage 1 debate on the Contract (Formation and Remedies) (Scotland) Bill. I inform members—whoever is left in the chamber—that I do not intend to take my full six minutes, but please do not in any way take that as a comment about the importa...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
14 Sep 2023
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill
I whole-heartedly accept what the cabinet secretary has said. I am delighted to speak on behalf of my party in this important debate on the reconsideration of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill. The significance of protec...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Jan 2026
Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I recognise Sarah Boyack’s long-standing commitment to the issues that sit behind the bill. She has campaigned on questions of sustainable development and long-term thinking for many years, and that dedication is acknowledged by members across the chamber. On a personal level,...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill
The debate has been thoughtful, and I thank members from all parties for their contributions. Everyone who spoke did so out of a genuine concern for children and young people in Scotland’s schools.The cabinet secretary has tried to get a balance in the bill, but how do we bala...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Sep 2024
Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1
I have the privilege of closing this afternoon’s stage 1 debate on the Scottish Languages Bill on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. As ever, we welcome the opportunity to engage in debate about all of Scotland’s languages, and I welcome the constructive approach that membe...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
27 Mar 2025
Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I start by echoing comments that have been made by members from across the chamber about the passing of Christina McKelvie. I offer my condolences to everyone who is dealing with grief. At 15, my youngest daughter went cliff jumping. She was petrified and talked herself out o...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Sep 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It gives me great pleasure to close this stage 1 debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. I, too, warmly welcome Mr Macpherson to his ministerial post, and I thank Graeme Dey for his work in the role. When James Withers published his independent review of the skills de...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Jun 2025
Education (Scotland) Bill
I might be the third person in line to do so, but I would like to extend my congratulations to Davy Russell and welcome him to the Parliament and the chamber. I also thank him for expressing the sentiments that he mentioned in his speech. I am three years into being an elected...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Nov 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to speak in the stage 1 debate. The bill raises profound questions about how we balance children’s rights, parental responsibilities and the practical realities of delivering education in Scottish classrooms. At the outset, I want to be absolutely clear that child...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
24 Mar 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
First, I congratulate Daniel Johnson, the non-Government bills unit and everyone involved in getting this important bill to this stage. I am deeply impressed by all the members who have managed to navigate the maze of the legislative process. We have had some excellent bills t...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
25 Apr 2024
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am looking at how the bill will operate in reality and, because of the issues that are coming forward, I do not think that we will be able to support it. Foster families support social work and ensure that children who need respite care are suitably homed and not reliant on...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Jun 2025
Scottish Languages Bill
It is a privilege for me to be able to close this afternoon’s debate on the Scottish Language Bill on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. As I said in the stage 1 debate, as Scottish Conservatives, whose ethos is based on tradition, we believe that our customs and heritage ...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
20 Jan 2026
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
Scotland needs a skills system that values apprenticeships and technical education just as highly as it does academic routes. That should not be a controversial goal, and it is one that the Scottish Conservatives have long supported. The bill was an opportunity to deliver that...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Committee
15 Nov 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I clarify to members of the committee that my amendments are probing ones to ascertain from the cabinet secretary her views on the principle of overseas gender certificate recognition, so I do not intend to press them. However, I hope that the cabinet secretary can provide som...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
18 Apr 2024
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I begin my contribution this afternoon by congratulating Mark Griffin on getting his bill to stage 1. I have met Mark Griffin in relation to the topic and I know how passionate he is about it. We could all hear that in his speech. I understand that the process can be somewhat ...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Apr 2024
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
My youngest daughter came to live with us when she was two years old. She was three months old when the decision was made that it was no longer safe for her to stay in the environment that she was living in, and she was moved to the first of her foster families. When she was ...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
22 Jun 2023
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am really short of time—I apologise. I also note the changes to the children’s hearings system that Sheriff David Mackie proposed in the recently published “Hearings for Children” report and the fact that the move towards a single point of authority—a paid position to suppo...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
18 Apr 2024
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
Although I accept that, I think that there are charities that can provide additional information and I am still not sure that moving forward with this body is the right way to go. My main concern, however, centres on the fact that the bill is meant to deal with a benefit that...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
20 Mar 2025
Criminal Exploitation of Children
I thank Michael Matheson for bringing this extremely important issue to the chamber. His contribution was excellent. It is important that we recognise the need to define, to collect data and to work across bodies to make a change. We are very aware of the issues surrounding c...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
29 Jan 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
::I add my congratulations to Daniel Johnson on doing the wheen of work that goes into bringing a bill to this stage. I also congratulate, as many members have done today, Beth Morrison and Kate Sanger, who have also done a wheen of work. It is important to mention that it is ...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
24 Apr 2024
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I say from the outset that the Conservatives, as a group, will support all the amendments in the group, although I have just heard Ruth Maguire say that she might not move amendment 84. Amendments 40, 43 and 63, in the name of Martin Whitfield, which would add references to c...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I accept that there has been a rise in the number of cases, but we need to ensure that all systems are robust and can do the job that they need to do. That is why it is important to mention such issues as we go through the bill process. We are constantly told that surveys sho...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
17 Sep 2024
Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1
I researched that. In her intervention, Emma Harper has highlighted very well the problem with trying to define Scots, which is a very difficult process. The committee “believes that more needs to be done by the Scottish Government beyond what is set out in the Bill”. It wa...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Committee
17 Sep 2025
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My question follows on from those of Mr Kidd and Mr Rennie. Their questions were about the situation as it stands, utilising the IJB workforce and concerns about social work. For me, the best way for us to achieve the Promise that we are heading towards is the implementation o...
Roz McCall Con Committee
04 Feb 2026
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
This has already been a very interesting discussion on a subject that we have broached previously. I am very much in agreement with the concept of there being “no wrong door”, which Miles Briggs mentioned.On my amendment 98, I believe that housing should be a foundation and no...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Jun 2023
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I agree with the principles that are behind the proposed legislation. Considering my very vocal stance on anything Promise related, I accept that we must move forward with some speed if we are to uphold the good intentions of the Promise report. That said, there are parts of t...
Roz McCall Con Committee
21 Sep 2023
Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25
We have skirted around this issue already, but I would like to put a bit more detail on it. My question is for Bill Scott, and also for Emma Congreve, if you would not mind making just a wee comment. In your submission, Bill, you say, on raising revenue, that in addition to p...
Roz McCall Con Committee
24 Jan 2024
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
My amendments in this group are on the prosecution of children in the appropriate system and would apply only to cases involving what are considered to be the most serious offences. I know that we have gone over this, but I will repeat it. The offences that are covered are th...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
24 Apr 2024
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Risk to the victim, and risk planning, is one of the main areas of concern with proceeding through the children’s hearings system. Victim Support Scotland has consistently raised concerns throughout the bill’s progression regarding the ineffectiveness of compulsory supervision...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
24 Apr 2024
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 35 is another amendment that highlights the need for review and reporting to Parliament on the progress on and processes of the implementation of the bill. As I highlighted at the outset, in my remarks on Ruth Maguire’s amendment 84, I fundamentally believe that we m...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is very reasonable for Governments to look at any analysis that is carried out, so I thank Bob Doris for that intervention. I echo the comments that were made by my colleague and friend Jeremy Balfour about shaping social security in Scotland in the future. We should embra...
Roz McCall Con Committee
13 Jun 2024
Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What equalities issues arise from the bill? Does the bill sufficiently account for impacts on different equality groups, or is other action needed to make improvements?
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Committee
27 Jun 2024
Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning to the minister and officials. I am the last member to speak, so this will not take long now. It is disappointing that the equality impact assessment did not come out until Friday last week, particularly as that was after we had spoken to stakeholders. Although I...
Roz McCall Con Committee
27 Jun 2024
Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. Anyone who is on the committee will know that the rural lens is a big issue for me. The committee has heard about the unique characteristics of homelessness and fuel poverty in rural areas. There are concerns that the bill does not recognise that and those were very...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am happy to close the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. I add my thanks to those of pretty much every previous member in the debate to everyone who has participated in the process so far. As a member of the committee, I echo the committee convener’s comments re...
Roz McCall Con Committee
26 Mar 2025
The Promise
My concern comes from the fact that, although the minister has already stated that the issues with secure care are not related to the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Act 2024, we know that the legal process is utilising care facilities as a sort of “young offenders inst...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
24 Apr 2025
Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers
I am delighted to open this committee debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives and to note the report that the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee produced following its inquiry into framework legislation and Henry VIII powers. I know that it has been said that thi...
Roz McCall Con Committee
29 Apr 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Part 1 of the bill defines leases to which the legislation will apply. What are your thoughts on that part of the bill? We will go right back down the line, starting with Steven Blane, please.
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Committee
06 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Good morning. I thank the witnesses for coming to today’s meeting. What you have said is very interesting. To narrow the discussion down a little, I will start with part 1 of the bill. You have given the committee your overall opinions, but what are your views on part 1 of the...
Roz McCall Con Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
The Scottish Law Commission has consulted on the Tenancy of Shops (Scotland) Act 1949 and has proposed that the bill be amended to implement its recommendation on that act. We have had mixed representations on that—some people are in favour of repealing the 1949 act, while oth...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
26 Jun 2025
Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill
I rise to speak on the LCM that we have been asked to approve this afternoon. It has already been highlighted that it covers child employment, secure care and residential care. I have concerns about it, which I will briefly outline to members. At face value, the proposal to a...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
25 Jun 2025
Education (Scotland) Bill
Thank you very much. The disappointment that I want to highlight is down to some of the behaviour that was on display yesterday. Some of the amendments that were spoken to, and some of the contributions that were made, were met with what, in my opinion, were arrogance and con...
Roz McCall Con Committee
10 Sep 2025
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is very helpful. The bill will go through stages 2 and 3, and there will be amendments and so on, but can you flag up any unintended consequences of the bill as it has been drafted, from a legal perspective?
Roz McCall Con Committee
17 Sep 2025
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We are all agreed on the focus of the bill as another step towards realising the Promise, which we are all signed up to and we all agree on. However, from your perspective, is the bill going down the right avenues to get it to where it needs to be? Is it financially viable? Do...
Roz McCall Con Committee
05 Nov 2025
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The committee has had an interesting group of evidence sessions and we are coming to the end of that process. If I am summarising correctly, a few key risks and observations have come up, one of which is that the bill is a missed opportunity. Multiple witnesses have said that ...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
18 Dec 2025
Contract (Formation and Remedies) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I apologise once again for my earlier error on timing, Presiding Officer. I will take even less time in this speech. It was remiss of me not to put on the record my kind thanks to Lady Paton in my opening remarks, so I would like to echo the thanks that other colleagues have ...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
24 Mar 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank Fergus Ewing for that intervention. I cannot disagree with a single word that he said. In the work that I have tried to take forward with the minister Natalie Don-Innes, we have tried very hard to work on a cross-party basis, and that is definitely something that we sh...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Committee
18 Feb 2026
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Good morning. I will speak to amendments 118, 211 and 125, which would introduce national standards, guidance and reporting requirements for family group decision making, which is a cornerstone of early intervention and family-centred practice. Family group decision making rec...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Committee
04 Feb 2026
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank the committee for considering my amendments. I will speak first to my own amendments rather than the others in the group. I will take them individually and give the committee an idea of where they are coming from.Amendment 88 goes to the heart of whether aftercare is a...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
04 Oct 2022
Cost of Living (Tenant Protection) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank the minister for allowing me to make my first intervention. I am sure that, as a Glasgow MSP, Mr Harvie will be aware that the mere mention of the bill has seen a significant contraction in the size of the rental market, which is directly affecting students, especially...
Roz McCall Con Chamber
14 Sep 2023
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill
Here we are again with—unfortunately—a similar kind of response. It is important to say that we have things that we can do, which we should be doing, and I will give support to ensure that that happens. Let us reaffirm that the importance of children’s rights is not disputed....
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for coming along. I want to talk about timing, which Mark Griffin has already alluded to reasonably succinctly in his opening statement. As you are aware, the Scottish Government wrote to the committee on 6 November and said that it will ...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Committee
24 Jan 2024
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
My amendments seek to strengthen the rights of victims while not taking away from the process in the bill for change for young offenders. If we accept the premise that young people who cause harm are themselves victims of harm and therefore traumatised, we must also accept tha...
Roz McCall Con Committee
24 Jan 2024
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I understand the trepidation about the amendments, but it is important to pinpoint my position. They are probing amendments and I will not move them all, but I reserve the right to bring them back at stage 3, because there are some important points that the bill may not necess...
Roz McCall Con Committee
24 Jan 2024
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
As I have stated, I will not press amendment 11 or move the other amendments. It will be unacceptable in solemn cases that we move towards a movement restriction condition. It is relevant that we ensure, through the process of the bill, that we have adequate residential care. ...
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Meeting of the Parliament 23 November 2023

23 Nov 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
McCall, Roz Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I welcome the opportunity to contribute to this debate on the Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. Again, I make no apologies—and I do this every time—for using my short time in Parliament to consistently stand up for the rights of all children, whether they are care experienced, struggling with their mental health or transitioning into adulthood. The aims of the bill relating to disabled children and young people are undoubtedly admirable, and I applaud Pam Duncan-Glancy for driving it forward.

I note Scottish Autism’s support for the principle of the bill in its submission to the Education, Children and Young People Committee. As it said,

“The aims of the Bill are laudable, and we welcome any moves to smooth transitions for disabled children and young people into adulthood, thus removing the ‘cliff edge’ which exists for too many as they leave full-time education.”

I agree. That cliff edge is indeed felt by many. We know that care-experienced children, when they transition out of their care support network into a non-structured one, are in the same situation when it comes to accessing on-going support, which has a negative impact on their lives. We recognise that, and we have the Promise as a road map for young people to actively achieve their prospects, but where is the road map for children with disabilities?

When it comes to the impact of a disability on the life chances of a child or young person, the facts are clear and well understood. We know that young people with a declared disability are less likely than those without disability to enter work after leaving school and twice as likely to be unemployed after leaving school, and that the acceptance rate into university for Scottish students with a declared disability is lower than that for students with a declared disability in the rest of the United Kingdom.

I agree with the committee’s stage 1 report, which concludes that more work must be done to support those transitioning into adulthood. The report says:

“those with responsibility for transitions must do more to ensure that there is a focus and urgency around improving the experiences of disabled children and young people transitioning into adulthood. This includes, but is not limited to, the Scottish Government, Local Authorities, education, health and social care services, and the NHS.”

We know what the problems are, but is the bill the right vehicle to deliver meaningful change for children and young people with a disability? Would the stated intention of the bill, which is

“to introduce, and to implement, a ... National Transitions Strategy to improve outcomes for disabled children and young people in the transition to adulthood”,

actually deliver clarity to agencies that would be tasked with delivering those plans? Again, I highlight the submission from Scottish Autism, which states:

“Whether the Bill can meet these aims, however, will depend upon how legislation is implemented once enacted, and how the agencies responsible for delivering the legislation are held to account for those responsibilities.”

I would like to be in a position to support the bill today but, unfortunately, in its current form, it lacks detail on costings and raises many issues regarding who is responsible for the transition plans, the additional strain on local authority resources and how the intentions could be implemented in practice.

I have deep concerns about the financial memorandum associated with the bill, which has been mentioned. Those concerns were raised in the Education, Children and Young People Committee’s stage 1 report. I want to pull out one part of that. Without clarity on exactly who would be entitled to a transition plan under the bill, it is not possible to estimate accurately the cost and resource implications associated with implementing the bill.

Those concerns about costings matter, especially on delivery. If the bill is not properly costed, we cannot deliver for disabled children and young people and improve their life chances by providing a smoother transition into adulthood. In fact, we would be doing the opposite—we would be failing them. Processes would ultimately be put under immense strain, and the laudable goal of the bill to actively change the lives of many disabled young children and young people would simply not be achieved.

I so wanted to support the principles of the bill. I certainly agree with the concept of supporting disabled children through difficult and challenging times in their lives, and I would challenge anyone to disagree with it. Why, then, has Pam Duncan-Glancy, as a disabled member of Scottish society, had to introduce a member’s bill in order to highlight the transition from childhood to adulthood? We know that members’ bills do not have the full force of the structures that are behind other bills. Civil service support and financial will are in the Scottish Government’s hands, and it is shameful that the Government has been in power for 16 years and yet disabled children are not further up the priority list for this SNP-Green Administration.

Although the bill’s concept is commendable and its aims admirable, in its current form, it has too many flaws to make it workable. I dearly wanted to support it in principle at stage 1 and lodge amendments at stages 2 and 3 but, sadly, that is not possible.

16:12  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11381, in the name of Pam Duncan-Glancy, on the Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulth...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. “Thank God for that; now I can be your mum again.” Those were my mum’s words when we heard that my transition to adult...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Sue Webber to speak on behalf of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. 15:23
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
I am pleased to be speaking on behalf of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. First, I thank the member in charge for introducing the bill, wh...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I was one of the members who had the privilege of being on that visit. Does Sue Webber agree that what was outstanding from that visit was the quality of the...
Sue Webber Con
I agree. We have found many times that the people who are having an impact and making positive changes to disabled people as they transition into adulthood a...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Can the member set out whether the committee has had confirmation of when the strategy will be published?
Sue Webber Con
I have not yet had that detail. Perhaps the Government can make that clear in its contributions during the debate. Make no mistake, we intend to return to t...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Ms Webber will remember that, in recognition of that fact, I said in the committee that I could amend the bill at stage 2 to take the part about diagnosis ou...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give Ms Webber a wee bit of time back.
Sue Webber Con
The inability to define that formed part of the crux of the challenges that we faced regarding the accuracy of the financial memorandum. We know now—and we a...
The Minister for Children, Young People and Keeping the Promise (Natalie Don) SNP
I thank Pam Duncan-Glancy for the spotlight that her bill has shone on transitions to adulthood for disabled people and for setting out her personal experien...
Stephen Kerr Con
If the strategy is to be published by the end of next year, when, in the minister’s estimation, will there be a change in young people’s life experience as t...
Natalie Don SNP
We are already taking action now, through the statement of intent. We are listening to feedback and encouraging further action. As I said, the strategy, whic...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I thank the minister for clarifying the publication date for the strategy. However, I still think that it is too late, and I echo the concerns of my colleagu...
Natalie Don SNP
I will come on to much of that later in my speech. If Pam Duncan-Glancy is happy for me to do so, I will set that out as I go along. I absolutely want things...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
The definition of who will be covered by the bill is the same as that proposed by the Government in its strategy.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give the minister a bit of time back for interventions.
Natalie Don SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. With apologies to Pam Duncan-Glancy, as I said earlier, I will come on to those points. For now, I am just laying out my conce...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I have come late to the bill, consideration of which was well in train by the time I joined the Education, Children and Young People Committee right before t...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is a great pleasure to open the debate on the Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill on behalf of Scottish Labour. ...
Stephen Kerr Con
I agree with everyone who has spoken about the bill’s laudable aims, but the question is how it will actually change the experience of the young people who a...
Martin Whitfield Lab
The Scottish Government would be required to have a strategy to explain. It would have to appoint a minister to take responsibility, and local authorities wo...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the member give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can allow time for the intervention, if the member wishes to take it.
Martin Whitfield Lab
Let me finish this. My apologies. The parent said: “strangely enough, this was where he successfully graduated with a 2:1”. If we fail our disabled young ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
When I first became a member of Parliament for Dunfermline, I met the parents involved in something called the Diamond Association. They were the most feroci...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Does the member agree that it is a shame that the first commitment that we had from the Government on the issue was in 2016, and we are still waiting?
Willie Rennie LD
That is one of the reasons why I am conflicted about the bill. I understand: legislation is permanent—it is there on the statute book and it creates a compul...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. I remind members that speeches are to be of up to six minutes, please. 16:00