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Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Freedom of information is not an abstract constitutional principle; it is the cornerstone of public trust in Scotland’s institutions, and it is how people understand what their Government is doing, how decisions are made and whether power is being exercised responsibly. Howeve...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
28 Feb 2024
Qualifications and Assessment
We cannot afford to think that curriculum for excellence, which was introduced in 2010-11, will still be fit for purpose by the end of this century. Indeed, it is terrifying to think that those who are entering our early years provision now will still be working at the end of ...
The Convener Con Committee
17 Jan 2024
Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform
Welcome back. We will continue taking evidence from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills, moving to questions on the education reform agenda. Alongside the cabinet secretary for the second session are the Scottish Government officials Clare Hicks, who is the directo...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Dec 2024
Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill
Scottish Conservatives understand that electoral policy does not stand still and that the bill will update the law in time for the 2026 Holyrood election. Electoral reform that improves the running of Scottish elections and, at the same time, makes our democracy more transpare...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
29 Sep 2022
Excellence in Scottish Education
If the member does not mind, I will carry on. The SNP stated in the 2016-17 programme for government: “We intend to make significant progress within the lifetime of this Parliament and substantially eliminate the gap over the course of the next decade.” It is clear that tha...
The Convener (Sue Webber) Con Committee
10 Jan 2024
Post-school Education and Skills Reform
Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. Agenda item 1 is an evidence session on post-school education and skills reform with Graeme Dey, who is the Minister for Higher and Further Education; and Minister for...
The Convener (Sue Webber) Con Committee
17 Jan 2024
Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform
Good morning, and welcome to the second meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. Agenda item 1 is an evidence session with the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills on the budget for 2024-25 and on education reform. It is a pleasure to have y...
The Convener Con Committee
17 Jan 2024
Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform
Thank you. Can you say something about how colleges and universities can approach the overall skills reform agenda at a time when they are facing significant financial pressures? Perhaps you can also dig into what assistance the Scottish Government and the Scottish Funding Co...
The Convener Con Committee
17 Jan 2024
Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform
Cabinet secretary, you have spoken a lot about different aspects of education reform and how you are looking to feed back some of your thoughts about that. On the subject of how you are going about your business now, how are implementation and evaluation being embedded into yo...
Sue Webber Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
“NHS in Scotland 2021”
Thank you for those responses. Mr Boyle, you mentioned earlier that the NHS has consistently failed to deliver on all of its historic staffing ambitions, and you stated that the new recovery plan is predicated on recruitment and retention of staff, so staffing is obviously ke...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
24 May 2022
Health and Social Care
We have heard a lot about the inequity of services across the country. However, it does not need a national care service to deliver much more equal provision, as will be brought out in the point that I am about to make. We have good policies in Scotland, and we cannot argue t...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
27 Oct 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Does the member believe and agree with her party’s former leader Johann Lamont, who said that MSPs must “consider any unintended consequences of gender reform” on women and girls?
The Convener (Sue Webber) Con Committee
08 Nov 2023
Education Reform
Good morning, and welcome to the 28th meeting in 2023 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. Agenda item 1 is an evidence-taking session with a panel of academics and experts in education policy to enable us to appreciate the progress that has been made to dat...
The Convener Con Committee
10 Jan 2024
Post-school Education and Skills Reform
Thank you very much for that, minister. I will kick off by picking up on what you said about decluttering the landscape and having the right change with the right sequencing. That all sounds familiar given all the reviews that have been taking place. We really want a clear roa...
The Convener Con Committee
10 Jan 2024
Post-school Education and Skills Reform
James Withers said that the “north star” should be what successful skills reform should look like. How will you measure, define and judge success? I know that that is a difficult question that almost puts the cart before the horse.
The Convener Con Committee
10 Jan 2024
Post-school Education and Skills Reform
I want to come back to the issue of microcredentials, which you spoke about and which was raised in 2020 and 2021 and in our report in 2023. Microcredentials have been sought by the colleges for quite some time. Who has been letting them down? Is it the role of the SQA to addr...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
24 Jan 2024
Portfolio Question Time · Farmers (Financial Support)
In just two years, the common agricultural policy will have ended. The agriculture sector faces a very uncertain future, and I suspect that it does not feel that there has been much investment in it. Will the minister explain the decision-making process that has been followed ...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
17 Jun 2021
Drug-related Deaths
No, thank you. The Scottish Government must now find a solution to the hugely complex situation in Scotland that includes access to the new treatments that we have heard about; safe and secure housing, which is key; support through the justice system; and a preventative appro...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
“NHS in Scotland 2021”
Welcome to the meeting, Mr Boyle. It is nice to see you face to face. It has been eight months since the Scottish Government published its NHS recovery plan. What is your assessment of the progress, if any, that has been made since then? As you have rightly stated and as we a...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
10 May 2022
Audit Scotland Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”
You mentioned that we must change the way that we deliver our health and social care while maintaining access to services. You have also said that you and John Burns are still discussing how the recovery plans will demonstrate ambition for reform, but that there is still a lot...
The Convener Con Committee
07 Sep 2022
Scottish Qualifications Authority
I have purposely been watching the clock, because I want to spend the last part of the question session on the reform agenda. With that, I will hand over to Michael Marra.
The Convener Con Committee
07 Sep 2022
Scottish Qualifications Authority
I get that, but, given what Michael Marra has said about the membership, and given the comment about a rebrand, I am concerned about how different in function the national awards body will be if the system is being reviewed by people in the existing organisation. We need a sei...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
27 Oct 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Does the member agree with the Scottish Government’s equality impact assessment on the bill, which says that we need “More up-to-date research on” how the bill will affect “the mental health and wellbeing of” our young people?
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
15 Nov 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Good morning. This group of amendments is on retention of current application process and evidence required in support of applications. The amendments would bring the legislation back to the status quo and—importantly—retain current safeguards. They would mean that all the exi...
Sue Webber Con Committee
15 Nov 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I refer particularly to the comments made by Fulton MacGregor and by the cabinet secretary describing the amendments as being against the principles of the bill. We, too, want to safeguard trans people and to ensure that they can go through the process in as streamlined and se...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
30 Nov 2022
Portfolio Question Time · Gender Identity Services and Mental Health Services (Integration)
The Scottish Government has described the current process for obtaining a gender recognition certificate as overly medicalised, and it is proposing to remove the requirement for medical evidence to change one’s legal gender through the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
20 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Sue Webber Con Chamber
20 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Does Sarah Boyack agree that the Scottish Government has failed to specify in detail the support and information that would be available to applicants under the bill? Given that the pool of people who are able to apply for GRCs is being widened, does she think that even more s...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
20 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I agree with Ruth Maguire that it is vital that only adults who are capable of understanding the implications of their decision are able to apply for a GRC. Does she agree that that highlights that any application for a GRC should be made only by people who are aged 18 or over?
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
21 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Inaudible.
Sue Webber Con Chamber
21 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Is that better?
Sue Webber Con Chamber
21 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I fixed it myself. There you go. Thank you for bearing with me, Presiding Officer, and for your comments about interventions. I was trying to get in previously. My four amendments in the group seek to compel Scottish ministers to provide clarity to women and girls about when ...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
21 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the cabinet secretary for taking my intervention. Will she give us specific examples of where it is proportionate to discriminate against those with a gender recognition certificate for the purposes of providing a single-sex service?
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Dec 2022
First Minister’s Question Time · Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill
For the past two days in a row, members have been sitting in the chamber until after midnight. On Tuesday, as the debate on the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill at stage 3 was under way, one woman was thrown out of the public gallery and another law-abiding woman was ...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill
Will the member take an intervention?
The Convener Con Committee
18 Jan 2023
Budget Scrutiny 2023-24
We have three requests to ask questions on the subject of reform, and I would like all members to be very concise with their questions.
Sue Webber Con Chamber
20 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
As Ms Boyack has just stated, amendment 23 is the lead amendment in this group, with amendments 20 and 21 being consequential to it. Amendment 23 would add a provision requiring the Scottish ministers to “take steps to ensure that individuals who are considering making an app...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
31 May 2023
Education (National Discussion)
The SNP Government has presided over 16 years of failure in Scottish education, with the gap between the poorest and richest pupils widening and education standards dropping. The SNP has starved schools and staff of resources, and its curriculum for excellence has been a failu...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
31 May 2023
Education (National Discussion)
The evidence that I hear from people when at committee, including on the attainment gap, which we see widening, and the dropping of regional, national and international statistics says something, and we need to acknowledge that. I want to acknowledge that the people who work ...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Jun 2023
Education Reform
On the basis of the cabinet secretary’s statement and comment, it is not advice and guidance that teachers want; it is often practical help in responding to things such as additional support needs, behaviour, relationships, and seeking to improve parental engagement. I was und...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Jun 2023
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am delighted to speak on behalf of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. I thank my colleagues for their diligent work on the bill so far, and all the people and organisations that provided evidence in person or in response to our call for views. The committee...
The Convener Con Committee
13 Sep 2023
Scottish Qualifications Authority
Thank you very much. We will now tack away from appeals and move on to the topic of reform.
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
The minister mentioned that children and families are at the heart of trying to break the cycle and save lives. Why do we have social workers with increasing numbers of case loads and young people who will get less and less time with those invaluable social workers to help to ...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
Maybe it is just me, Presiding Officer, but the sound in the chamber seems a bit strange today. I welcome the chance to open for the Scottish Conservatives in this debate. I am sure that, across the chamber, we can all agree that each and every drug death is a tragedy, and th...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
I have just started my speech, but I might take an intervention in a moment, Mr Macpherson. The strategies are just not enough or they are not being put in place fast enough where it matters on the front line. Scotland still has the highest drug death rate in Europe and, desp...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
I think that I accept the sentiment of what the member stated, but the SNP Government has been in control of these things in Scotland for 16 years, and it was the previous First Minister who, when she was health secretary—I cannot recall her exact title—cut the funding to our ...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
I will correct this if required, but my understanding of what is happening in Portugal is that the recording of deaths has also changed, so I would not be quite that pointed in citing Portugal as a shining example. After being told that Scotland had just 425 rehabilitation be...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
The situation that we are facing in Scotland is far graver than the situation that people are facing elsewhere in the United Kingdom, where exactly the same legislation is in place. We have to look internally at ourselves and what we are not doing to help save those lives. We...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
I take part in those joint committees and find them extremely useful but, like you, I had to plead for the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee to take the lead for the next joint committee on Tuesday. You have, as convener—
Sue Webber Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
I apologise. Audrey Nicoll, as convener of the Criminal Justice Committee, has given much time to the joint committee. Is the member delighted, as I am, that we are now using the time of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee?
Sue Webber Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
Will the member take an intervention?
Sue Webber Con Chamber
19 Sep 2023
Drug Law Reform
It has been mentioned previously that the process of a member’s bill makes it quite challenging to have a timeline. We continue to put that point on the record but we continue to get the same evasive statements from the Scottish Government, which make it seem as though Douglas...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
07 Nov 2023
Education and Skills Reform
In your statement, cabinet secretary, you talk about more committees and more working groups being set up, but I contend that everyone is now looking for action. You said that you will engage with Opposition spokespeople on next steps to allow for greater political consensus, ...
Sue Webber Con Chamber
07 Nov 2023
Education and Skills Reform
That circumvents the committee process, rather than waiting for the outcomes and the evidence that will be taken. What were you thinking, cabinet secretary?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Nov 2023
Education Reform
Who would like to come in first on that one?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Nov 2023
Education Reform
Dr Shapira, would you like to come in?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Nov 2023
Education Reform
Finally, I call Professor Stobart.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Nov 2023
Education Reform
We have already heard a little about this issue. Does the panel agree that curriculum for excellence is underpinned by active learning and by how learners construct their knowledge? If so, what practical implications does that have for teachers and other education professional...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Nov 2023
Education Reform
You are all sitting back and not catching my eye. It is like when heads go down in class. Laughter.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Nov 2023
Education Reform
Dr Brown, as your organisation was name checked, would you like to follow that up?
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Meeting of the Parliament 17 February 2026 [Draft]

17 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Freedom of information is not an abstract constitutional principle; it is the cornerstone of public trust in Scotland’s institutions, and it is how people understand what their Government is doing, how decisions are made and whether power is being exercised responsibly. However, despite clear and compelling evidence that our freedom of information framework is outdated and has been outpaced, the Scottish Government has consistently failed to modernise it.

The Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee could not have been clearer: there is a need for FOI reform. The original 2002 act was designed for a totally different era—before digital comms, before arm’s-length organisation service delivery and before the complex landscape of publicly funded but not publicly listed bodies. The world has moved on, and Scotland’s FOI regime has not kept pace.

What we have witnessed from the Scottish Government over recent years is a refusal to accept that reality. Ministers insist that the fundamentals are still fit for purpose, yet we heard the Information Commissioner describe the pace at which they are bringing new bodies under FOI as “glacial”. Stakeholders told us that the publication scheme is outdated and ineffective. Public functions remain exempt simply because they sit outside traditional structures. None of that is fit for purpose.

Freedom of information is supposed to empower the public, not exhaust them. It should encourage transparency, not create barriers to it. I give credit to Katy Clark for taking on the work, because nobody else had any appetite to do so. She has done so because the Scottish Government has simply chosen not to. Although it is true that many elements of the bill need further refinement—that is a euphemism—the need for reform is not in dispute. It is urgent, overdue and undeniable.

We, in the Conservatives, find ourselves between a rock and a hard place today. The stage 1 report sets out the substantial and complex work that would be required to make the bill fully workable, future proofed and comprehensive, and the time that is left in this parliamentary session is extremely tight. Some might call it legislative constipation.

At the same time, constituents are watching. One wrote to me to say:

“It feels like every time FOI comes up, Parliament asks for more time while the law gets older and weaker.”

The frustration is real, and it reflects a wider public concern that delay looks a lot like protecting the Government from scrutiny.

I have lodged an amendment that reflects the reality that is before us. It would mean that, if Parliament agreed to the principles of the bill, we would also recognise

“the time pressure in the current parliamentary session and the views in the stage 1 report, including that Freedom of Information reform”

might ultimately need to be addressed in the new parliamentary session. That is not backing away from reform; it is being honest about the scale of the task ahead.

Let me be clear that the Scottish Conservatives will vote for the bill at stage 1. We will do so because the principles are sound and because Scotland cannot afford more drift. However, supporting the principles does not erase our concerns, and we are deeply worried about the sheer length of time and the level of work that will be required to resolve the issues that were identified by the committee. Progress must be real and not symbolic.

The public are watching the debate more closely than some in the chamber might realise. They demand transparency, not excuses. They expect us to strengthen their right to know, not to circle the wagons and shield the Scottish Government from scrutiny. The truth is that, every time FOI reform is delayed, resisted or redirected into yet another holding pattern, it reinforces the perception that those in power are more interested in protecting themselves than in serving the public interest. People can see the Government dragging its heels. They can see the areas in which loopholes remain open and enforcement powers remain weak, and they can see when proactive publication is discussed but never delivered. They rightly ask why, if we believe in openness, we will not modernise the law that guarantees it.

Let me be clear: this Parliament has a duty not to ministers or departments but to the people of Scotland. They are entitled to a system that is modern, transparent and future proofed. They are watching what we choose to do today, and they will judge us not on our words about transparency but on whether we deliver it for once.

By supporting the bill and my amendment today, while being frank about the reality of what remains to be done, we keep the pressure on the Scottish Government. We send a clear message that FOI reform cannot be allowed to drift into irrelevance, and we reaffirm that the public’s right to know must be strengthened, modernised and defended, both now and in the next parliamentary session.

I move amendment S6M-20815.1, to insert at end:

“, but, in so doing, highlights the time pressure in the current parliamentary session and the views in the stage 1 report, including that Freedom of Information reform should be addressed in the next parliamentary session.”

14:39

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The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-20815, in the name of Katy Clark, on the Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. I call...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is almost 25 years since the passing of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002, also known as FOISA. My bill is not a criticism of that act, which...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Reform) Reform
Does Katy Clark agree that the Government could have taken on the bill, as it could with any member’s bill? It chose not to, which shows that it has no appet...
Katy Clark Lab
I fully agree with that.The committee backed bringing companies that are jointly owned by the Scottish Government and other bodies into the scope of freedom ...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
Freedom of information is not an abstract constitutional principle; it is the cornerstone of public trust in Scotland’s institutions, and it is how people un...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I rise as convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. I thank everyone who contributed to the committee’s scrutiny of the bill a...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
In the extremely limited time that I have at my disposal, I will begin by acknowledging the significant contribution that Katy Clark has made to the debate o...
Graham Simpson Reform
Will the minister take an intervention?
Graeme Dey SNP
Very briefly—if I get my time back, Presiding Officer.
Graham Simpson Reform
Does the minister agree that the Parliament is not being asked to decide whether there is enough time to get the bill through? It is being asked to decide wh...
Graeme Dey SNP
I am sure that Mr Simpson has been listening. If he listened to the points made by Sue Webber and the convener about the many issues with the bill, he would ...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It was the great French philosopher and civil rights campaigner Voltaire who warned:“Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”,and that is the crime th...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
It would not be a Richard Leonard speech if it did not begin with a quotation from a great philosopher. If I am lucky enough to be returned in the election I...
Sue Webber Con
Will Patrick Harvie give way?
Patrick Harvie Green
I am afraid that I do not have time.My party will make clear commitments. It is incumbent on every political party, including the SNP, to make clear commitme...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (LD) LD
When trust in politics is pretty much at an all-time low, we should all be doing everything that we can to gain back that trust. It is a really bad look for ...
Sue Webber Con
Will the member accept an intervention?
Jamie Greene LD
I just do not have time unless I can get it back, and I can see the Deputy Presiding Officer giving me a no to that.I appreciate that Parliament will not hav...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
We now move to the open debate.15:01
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
I thank Katy Clark for the way that she has gone about the business of progressing her member’s bill.Trying to sum up my thoughts on FOI in four minutes will...
Mercedes Villalba (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I begin by thanking my friend and comrade Katy Clark for taking up the challenge of reforming our freedom of information laws to be fit for the 21st century....
Sue Webber Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. In her remarks, the member stated that Lothian Buses is owned by the council in Edinburgh. She may want to correct th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Thank you. That is not a point of order, but it is on the record.15:09
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Reform) Reform
I congratulate Katy Clark on getting the bill to this stage, but I have to say that I feel for her after what she must have thought was quite a negative repo...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
We move to closing speeches. I call Patrick Harvie, who has up to four minutes.15:13
Patrick Harvie Green
I may not use all of that time, Presiding Officer. I am not sure that I have a huge amount more to add beyond what I said in my opening speech, but I will re...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Patrick Harvie, in summing up, poured a bit of scorn on those who like to claim that the Scottish Government wants to be secretive or to sit on information. ...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
When people submit a freedom of information request, they are not making a political statement. They are usually asking something very ordinary, such as, “Wh...
Graeme Dey SNP
I thank all members who have contributed to the debate this afternoon, whether I have entirely or partially agreed or disagreed with them.Richard Leonard mad...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I note that committee members are encouraged to leave their party hats at the door. That point notwithstanding, we are, as always, being asked to consider th...