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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
21 Sep 2023
Online Child Abuse, Grooming and Exploitation
I thank the Criminal Justice Committee for its work on this important issue, and for this afternoon’s debate. I also extend thanks to those from the third sector and statutory agencies who gave evidence with such care and sensitivity. I refer colleagues to my entry in the reg...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The child-facing version of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child says:“I have the right to be listened to and taken seriously”.However, the 1980 act allows children to be withdrawn from religious activities in schools without their consent and without their...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
07 Dec 2023
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill
I am extremely pleased to speak in the debate on behalf of the Scottish Greens today, and I am grateful to my colleagues on the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, the committee clerks and all those who gave evidence to us and supported our reconsideration wo...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
I express my deep thanks to Bob Doris for securing the debate and to all the third sector organisations that have provided us with such wise and helpful briefings. The issue of child poverty is clearly an emotive subject, and it ought to be—there is no more heartbreaking sigh...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill
I begin by thanking a number of people who have helped us get to this point today. As ever, the legislation team are unsung heroes, expertly drafting amendments, often at very short notice. Without their work, we would not be here. I also thank the clerking and Scottish Parlia...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
03 Dec 2025
Group-based Child Sexual Exploitation and Abuse
As the cabinet secretary said, the issue that we are debating—the sexual exploitation and abuse of children and young people—is not only an historic issue; it is happening now, in our communities and in ways that we often fail to recognise. Because it is happening now, our res...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
25 Nov 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
This Parliament has taken significant strides in promoting children’s rights. After three years of delay caused by a petty UK Government, last year we enshrined the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child into Scots law. Previously, my Green colleague John Finnie ensured tha...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
11 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
Poverty is a slow violence that strikes children and those who care for them in the heart and in their bodies, their minds, their hopes, their dreams and their futures. However, it is possible to change that for hundreds of thousands of children in Scotland, and if it is possi...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
07 Jan 2025
Child Poverty
I am pleased to close this afternoon’s debate on this important issue on behalf of the Scottish Greens. As we have heard, the draft budget includes important provisions that are intended to help the thousands of children in poverty across Scotland. However, cold and hungry ch...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The child-facing version of the UNCRC states: “I have the right to be listened to and taken seriously”. However, the 1980 act allows children to be withdrawn from religious activities in schools without their consent and without their views even being taken into account. Th...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
24 Mar 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am grateful to Daniel Johnson for his work on the bill, and I pay tribute to him for that, but we should reflect on why it took a member’s bill to get us to this point. Why have successive Governments not acted on this most important issue for 27 years?Parliament has acted f...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
During the committee’s scrutiny of the bill, we consistently heard that a key safeguard to the exemption in section 6B would be a statutory duty to notify the Scottish Government, the children’s commissioner and the Scottish Human Rights Commission when the exemption might be ...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
05 Sep 2024
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
This is a time of want and of need. People are afraid. Some are angry, and some are beyond desperate. Far too many children are hungry, cold, sleeping in unsafe places and excluded from going on the ordinary trips and having the toys that their classmates take for granted. Wes...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Committee
11 Jun 2025
Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Before I begin, I refer colleagues to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I worked for a rape crisis centre before I was elected. Amendment 54 seeks to address the widely acknowledged and long-standing problem of how domestic abuse is treated in child contact proc...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Thank you, convener, and good morning to the minister and officials. Thank you for being here this morning and for the conversations that we have had about the bill in recent months. Before I turn to my amendments, I want to briefly outline the approach of the Scottish Greens...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
06 Sep 2023
Equality within the 2023-24 Programme for Government
I am going to make progress. Health burdens, too, fall heavily on the children who live, play and learn in streets blighted by air pollution. For some adults, low-emission zones are a political football—part of the so-called culture wars. For children with asthma and other co...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
29 Jan 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
::I begin by thanking and congratulating Daniel Johnson on his bill and all the work that he has put into it. I thank the committee for its meticulous scrutiny during stage 1, and I want especially to recognise Beth Morrison. We would not be here without her tireless campaigni...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
23 Apr 2024
Two-child Benefit Cap
It is the seventh birthday of the two-child cap. Should we have a party, with balloons, games and wee slices of sponge cake wrapped in a paper napkin? Maybe not. For the 400,000 UK families who are being bludgeoned by the two-child cap, including nearly 500 in Dundee West alon...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
19 Mar 2025
Temporary Accommodation (Children’s Rights)
In closing the debate for the Scottish Greens, I reiterate my thanks to Shelter and to the researchers, children and families who made the report such a valuable, challenging and human testament. It shows us not only what is wrong, but the paths to making it right—to making th...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The Scottish Greens are very clear: we believe that children and young people have rights. We also believe that having rights without the power to exercise them is meaningless, so we believe that children and young people should have the power to exercise their rights. Logical...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
18 Apr 2023
Cost of Living and Child Poverty
I welcome Shirley-Anne Somerville to her new Cabinet post, and I look forward to working closely with her over the coming months. I thank the Deputy First Minister for the open and collaborative working relationship that we developed on social security and other issues when sh...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
11 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
I thank all the organisations that have provided such thoughtful and informed briefings for this debate. In the First Minister’s foreword to “Best Start, Bright Futures: Tackling Child Poverty Progress Report 2023-24”, which is the latest progress report, he wrote that eradic...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
05 Sep 2024
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
In the debate and in the many briefings that were circulated before it, we have heard and have had shared with us many examples of the Christie commission’s findings of the generational effects of social and economic inequalities and of the imperative—which is more urgent than...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
02 Oct 2024
Housing Emergency
The award-winning journalist Vicky Spratt recently published a book titled “Tenants: The People on the Frontline of Britain’s Housing Emergency”. She points out that behind the undeniable reality of a housing emergency lies a series of separate but connected emergencies: the i...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
There is a certain amount of irony in the bill, given that, although it brings school religious activities into line with the UNCRC, part 2 provides for a very wide exception to convention rights when there is conflict between the convention and existing legislation, and not j...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill
I am talking about part 2 of the bill, which is not about religious observance. However, on that point, we believe that there should be separation of church and state. There is nothing in the bill to prevent religious observance by children and young people who wish to take pa...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
24 Mar 2022
Child Poverty
In his withering assessment of the impact of the UK Government’s policies on extreme poverty, Philip Alston of the United Nations called poverty “a political choice.” It is a choice. It was a choice when the UK Government cut off child tax credit support for families who have ...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
04 Oct 2023
Two-child Benefit Cap
Six years ago, the distinguished academic Professor Jonathan Bradshaw wrote: “The two-child policy is the worst ever social security policy because it results in unprecedented cuts to the living standards of the poorest children in Britain. If the government needed to reduce...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
05 Nov 2024
One Parent Families Scotland (80th Anniversary)
I thank Karen Adam for her motion, for her opening remarks and for securing this important debate. I join her and other members in congratulating One Parent Families Scotland on its anniversary and its wonderful work. Any family can become a one-parent family. Some are planne...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
19 Mar 2025
Temporary Accommodation (Children’s Rights)
I am deeply grateful to Shelter Scotland and the authors of this clear and comprehensive yet heartbreaking report. Just reading it is a harrowing experience. To write it and to listen to those stories must have been much more so. To live those stories—to experience those horro...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I begin these stage 3 proceedings by thanking the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills and her team for the many conversations that we have had about the bill over a very short period of time. I am grateful for that. We will come on to some of the areas of disagreement a...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
04 Nov 2021
Social Security Benefits
I thank those who work to support the distribution of social security to many people across Scotland. I also thank those who support recipients in voluntary sector organisations, local authorities and elsewhere. We see you and we value you. It would be remiss of me not to ackn...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
14 Mar 2024
Addressing Child Poverty Through Parental Employment
I thank the committee for its detailed work and report on this issue and, of course, the third sector organisations that have shared immensely important and helpful briefings. This is another debate that, in a just and compassionate world, we would not need to have. No child ...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
25 Nov 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
While we have religious state schools, the beliefs of a school need to be taken account of by the parents in choosing it. However, many of us would rather have complete separation of church and state in our education system. The Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotl...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
19 Apr 2022
Children’s Participation in Court Decision Making
Good morning and thank you for joining us today and for your opening remarks. You have already given us a lot of information and a lot to think about. I will put this question to all three of you, if that is okay. Following on from the questions about advocacy services that I...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is helpful. We heard in the earlier sessions this morning about some of the challenges that schools might face in facilitating such discussions. For example, anxiety may be expressed by both parents and children, or by either parents or children, in different situations. ...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The Scottish Greens accept that, in many ways, the situation that we have in Scotland in which, as you outlined, we have such denominational positions, is almost unique. Although denominational schools exist, we need to have very clear mechanisms for ensuring that children and...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
No young person should be forced to pray, and no young person or child should be forced to participate in activities of worship against their will. That is the principle to which the amendments speak. Young people in Scotland’s schools are still compelled to participate in ac...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 10 has the same aim as my other amendments and the bill in terms of the rights of children and young people. It would ensure that young people can be heard in any decision that their parents make to withdraw them from RO. However, the key difference with amendment 10...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I think that I heard the word “mistake”, but I accept what Stephen Kerr has now said in his intervention.Amendment 22 would support children’s rights under articles 12 and 13 of the UNCRC—article 12 contains the right to be heard and article 13 contains the right to informatio...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
02 Sep 2021
Supporting the People of Afghanistan
The current crisis in Afghanistan is both overwhelming and multilayered, but I will begin by expressing my solidarity with all those who are suffering or who are trying to flee to safety, and my deepest sympathies go to those who have lost loved ones in this catastrophe. More...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
30 Nov 2022
Violence Against Women and Girls (Men’s Role in Eradication)
This debate is specifically about the role of men in challenging and eradicating violence against women and girls. I am sorry that some have chosen to weaponise it against already-marginalised groups in society. The framing of this debate recognises that gender-based violence...
5. Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
30 Mar 2023
General Question Time · Children and Families with No Recourse to Public Funds (Services and Support)
To ask the Scottish Government, in the light of recent reported comments by the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland regarding children and families with no recourse to public funds being unable to access front-line services in Scotland, what action it can take wi...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
25 Apr 2023
Illegal Migration Bill
I and my Scottish Green colleagues welcome the motion and the debate. However, we do so with deep sadness, visceral anger and profound horror at what is being done in the name of the United Kingdom—a kingdom from which we have never longed more to disassociate ourselves. In r...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
06 Sep 2023
Equality within the 2023-24 Programme for Government
I begin by thanking the organisations, community groups and others who engaged with me in advance of this programme for government. I am grateful to them for their dedication to the communities that they support and serve, because one thing is clear as we talk about delivering...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
07 Nov 2023
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage
I hear—and welcome—your clear intention to continue to keep young people involved in the process. Linked to that is an issue with the three-year implementation programme, which has been talked about and on which some work has already started. Last week, we heard clearly from ...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
09 May 2024
Domestic Abuse of LGBTQ+ People
I thank Collette Stevenson for securing the debate and for highlighting that people experience domestic abuse and intimate partner violence within a wide range of situations, identities and relationships. Collette Stevenson’s comprehensive motion raises many important issues,...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, I accept that point. We need to recognise and acknowledge that, and we then need to think about how we go beyond that and address issues, such as the failure to improve the physical wellbeing of children who sit just above the poverty line, that have not been dealt with i...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
29 Jan 2025
Portfolio Question Time · Draft Budget 2025-26 (Access to Justice)
The Human Rights Consortium Scotland says: “Scotland faces a critical shortage of civil legal aid solicitors, which leaves countless individuals, particularly those in poverty, unable to get the legal representation they need to address injustices and uphold their rights.” P...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
29 Jan 2025
Holocaust Memorial Day 2025
I am grateful to have the opportunity to speak this evening, so I thank Jackson Carlaw for securing the debate. A memorial is an act of remembrance, and today we remember in two senses. We remember who it was who bore this unutterable pain—each individual and precious human b...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green Chamber
12 Jun 2025
Fornethy Survivors
I thank Colin Smyth for lodging his motion and securing this debate, and for his very powerful and moving opening speech. I concur with every single word. I am so immensely grateful, too, to the Fornethy survivors for their determination in their fight for justice. It is righ...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, and thank you for joining us. You may have heard, in the earlier evidence session, quite a lot of discussion about the potential conflict between parents’ rights as primary educators of their children and children’s rights to free expression of their spiritual or...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Dr Sanchez, you have been quite clear that, in your view, the mandating of RO is the main issue, and that the distinction between RO and RME is important. Fraser, what would your solution be, if not the provisions in the bill? Given the guidance and the statutory obligations...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
07 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will come to Gavin Yates and Louise Church soon. Gina, you talked about the evidence that we have had from children about their experience, and their families’ experiences, of discrimination. Are you aware of any evidence of parents or children worrying about being othered o...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
28 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is interesting that you talk about strengthening children’s rights and yet you are not proposing to give children that independent right. However—
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
10 Dec 2025
Social Security Spending
In case it was not clear, the Scottish Greens profoundly disagree with the premise of the Conservatives’ motion. The idea that Scotland’s “benefits bill” is somehow a problem to be controlled, rather than a lifeline that allows people to live dignified, independent lives, tell...
Maggie Chapman Green Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 40 has the same aim as my other amendments this morning and the same aim as the original bill had for the rights of children and young people. It would ensure that young people can be heard on any decision that is made by their parents to withdraw them from religious...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
16 Sep 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for the discussions that we have had about this issue, especially as I tried to get a more prescriptive amendment, which was quite similar to the one that Russell Findlay just moved, into the Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Dom...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I wonder whether Stephen Kerr is able to tell members whether he thinks that children under the age of 16 can make any decisions for themselves and therefore would be considered to have capacity in this regard. The UNCRC—which his party has agreed to incorporate in Scots law—i...
Maggie Chapman Green Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill
As I indicated earlier, my closing remarks will focus on part 2 of the bill. I remain uncomfortable with that part of the bill. What is happening is that, just after we have incorporated the UNCRC into Scots law, the bill will give public bodies that are meant to uphold childr...
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Meeting of the Parliament 21 September 2023

21 Sep 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Online Child Abuse, Grooming and Exploitation
Chapman, Maggie Green North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I thank the Criminal Justice Committee for its work on this important issue, and for this afternoon’s debate. I also extend thanks to those from the third sector and statutory agencies who gave evidence with such care and sensitivity.

I refer colleagues to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I previously worked for a rape crisis centre, and in that capacity I managed the prevention project that involves workers going into some schools to speak to young people about relationships, consent, sexual violence, safety and so much more. Such education and awareness-raising programmes are so important, as has already been highlighted by many others this afternoon.

I will focus my remarks on just a few of the important points that were raised during the committee’s evidence sessions. First, and perhaps most importantly, we must never lose sight of the fact that we are talking about actual harm to actual children. What matters is preventing and intervening to end that harm, and also helping children to recover from their pain, trauma and distress.

Expressing revulsion and talking tough may make us feel better, but they do not always help anyone else. For example, zero-tolerance policies on sharing self-created images can make it much more difficult for worried children to express their concerns.

If tough legislation is not always the answer for young people and their mistakes, it is a different matter when it comes to wealthy corporations and those who profit from them. The committee heard very clearly how important it is to make senior managers in technology companies responsible for failures to protect children on their platforms. The committee learned of the striking parallel with the construction industry, where introducing such responsibility has been transformational in saving lives and preventing serious injury. We cannot yet tell whether the UK Government’s long-delayed Online Safety Bill, which was finally passed this week, will have the impact that it needs to have.

This is a moral issue, but not in a prudish or puritanical sense. It was interesting to hear that adult entertainment sites are often the most proactive in working to protect children, while mainstream social media—notably Snapchat and the service formerly known as Twitter—have been much more reluctant to engage.

Online abuse does not exist in a vacuum. The distinction between virtual and physical worlds that older generations make is not experienced by children and young people, as others have highlighted. That is why retaining a hierarchy in which contact offences are more serious than online offences can be unhelpful, as that fails to recognise the ways in which profound harm can be caused without physical presence. Issues of online safety, trafficking and child criminal exploitation all need to be addressed together, rather than being confined to separate silos.

Those interconnections affect how we view and treat children who cause harm to others but whose behaviour may often be the consequence of their own traumatic experiences. They, too, need care and support as well as to have their own offending addressed. The committee heard that Westminster’s strategy barely recognises that—a failure that is now compounded by Westminster’s abdication of all responsibility for trafficked asylum-seeking children.

We can and must do better here. That includes acknowledging the reality of how much child abuse takes place at home, within families, where children should be safest and most secure. We cannot allow culture war rhetoric to rob children and young people of the support and help that they need. The noisy clamour against confidentiality for children’s gender identity is dangerous in its transphobic tendencies but also in how it potentially undermines the safety of home—a vital space. Children and young people must be able to talk to responsible professionals about their lives with the assurance that information will not be shared with possibly abusive family members.

Professionals such as teachers and social workers need the capacity, space, time and experience really to listen and really to hear. Sexual abuse is often much harder for children to disclose than other forms of violence or emotional abuse. The committee heard that it can be difficult to overcome the assumption that abuse simply does not happen in nice middle-class families.

Finally, against the backdrop of our continued work to incorporate the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, we need to remember that this is not only an issue of care and responsibility and a criminal justice matter but a public health problem and a human rights question. Children and young people need not only protection but recognition, trust and age-appropriate agency and autonomy. They are the experts in such harm and in its rapidly changing context.

As many of the expert witnesses testified, children and young people are often best placed to advise lawmakers and support one another. Perhaps our role is to listen to children and young people more, to amplify their informed voices and to join them in calling the powerful—in Governments and corporations—to urgent and effective account. I wish the committee well in its on-going work to that end.

16:18  

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on behalf of the Criminal Justice Committee on tackling online child abuse, grooming and exploitation. I invite member...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful that the Criminal Justice Committee has been given time to debate the issue of online child sexual exploitation. The committee has taken eviden...
John Swinney (Perthshire North) (SNP) SNP
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Audrey Nicoll SNP
I thank John Swinney for a valid question, which I will come on to. I commend Stuart Allardyce from Stop It Now! Scotland for his insightful evidence, in wh...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Audrey Nicoll SNP
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The Minister for Children, Young People and Keeping the Promise (Natalie Don) SNP
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Martin Whitfield Lab
With regard to education, in the curriculum for excellence technology section, the exploration of online communities—the social platforms that the minister i...
Natalie Don SNP
I have also alluded to the importance of having such conversations in the home, which is important from an early age. However, that suggestion is certainly s...
John Swinney SNP
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Natalie Don SNP
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Foysol Choudhury (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Schools and local authorities have roles to play in keeping children safe online, but they are struggling with already-stretched budgets. At the same time, P...
Natalie Don SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, minister. I call Sharon Dowey. 15:17
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
The internet has been a positive force in so many ways. It has made information more accessible, helped our economy to grow and given people new ways to comm...
Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
Is Sharon Dowey aware of the organisation International Justice Mission? It has reflected the fact that the rise in demand in Scotland for such material is f...
Sharon Dowey Con
I have only recently joined the Criminal Justice Committee, but I have seen from reading all the information that there is a lack of data on what is a huge p...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Child abuse by grooming and exploitation through the use of the internet, which enables that deplorable behaviour, is a matter that I have made a top priorit...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
As someone who works as an ambassador for the Internet Watch Foundation, I am glad that Pauline McNeill is raising its work here today. Does she agree that t...
Pauline McNeill Lab
I thank Clare Adamson for raising that point because I want to address something similar to that. There are gaps in the law around imagery for children, obvi...
Kate Forbes SNP
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is a bit of time in hand.
Pauline McNeill Lab
Okay.
Kate Forbes SNP
Pauline McNeill has made a really important point. Normalising violence against women and girls has allowed this industry to profit and become lucrative. Doe...
Pauline McNeill Lab
Yes, I do. That is one of the most important points of the debate: we must make the connection and ensure that we do not discuss issues in isolation. It is f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Ms McNeill, I have been quite generous with time.
Pauline McNeill Lab
I will close on this point. For far too long, images on the internet that no one has consented to have used and exploited by people who do that kind of thin...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 15:39
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
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