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Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning. I introduced the Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill in May 2025, following the usual members’ bill process and with the support of the non-Government bills unit. Growing up, I remember going into my mum’s shop in Argyle Street in Glasgow and seeing wom...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
04 Nov 2025
Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship
Before I begin, I thank the Social Justice and Social Security Committee for securing the debate, all the clerks who put together the report, and all the organisations and individuals who provided evidence to the committee. Evidence taken by the Social Justice and Social Secu...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
16 Sep 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Before I speak to my amendments 147 and 147A, which relate to domestic abuse, I want to put it on record that I am grateful to the Scottish Government for its advice to support my amendments on non-harassment orders, particularly on removing the proposed subsection (2) from am...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
01 Apr 2025
Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As many members already know, I take the issue of domestic abuse extremely seriously. From a young age, I remember my mother helping women in distress who would come to our shop on Argyle Street in Glasgow. I was young and did not understand what was happening, but, I later re...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
11 Dec 2025
British Sign Language (Scotland) Act 2015 Inquiry
I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives and also to speak as a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. I thank the committee and its clerks for putting together the report, and I also thank everyone who provided evide...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
07 Jan 2026
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, and happy new year. I begin by thanking the committee for the scrutiny that it has undertaken so far on my member’s bill. I have found it very interesting to listen to all the evidence that you have heard, and I think that I can most usefully focus my opening rem...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
02 May 2024
Unborn Victims of Violence
I am honoured to open this important debate, on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives, on the creation of an unborn victims of violence act. I commend and thank Nicola Murray for bringing the petition to Parliament. Nicola lost her baby due to domestic abuse after her partner ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
07 Jan 2026
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
First and foremost, I believe that the domestic abuse education should be present in all schools and that there should not be a postcode lottery—I mentioned that earlier with regard to rehabilitation. We believe that, if that early intervention were to be rolled out across the...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
27 May 2025
Civil Legal Aid Inquiry
Thank you—I ask you to please look at that in your reform, because the issue has been brought up in evidence for the past two weeks. People have such a low amount of money, but they do not get advice and assistance. Please look at that, minister. Over the past few weeks, the ...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
09 Dec 2025
British Sign Language Inquiry
Good morning, Deputy First Minister, and good morning to your team. We heard some concerning evidence about the support that is available to deaf survivors of domestic abuse. A couple of weeks ago, I attended an event that was hosted by East Dunbartonshire Women’s Aid entitle...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
11 May 2022
Violent Crime
I am honoured to be contributing to the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives, and I fully support the motion lodged by my colleague, Jamie Greene. Time and again, we come into this chamber and helplessly witness votes being passed by the SNP and Green coalition that...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
29 Nov 2023
Gender-based Violence
I am grateful for the opportunity to contribute to this debate, which marks the international day for the elimination of violence against women and the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence that follow it. This is the third year in a row that I have contributed to ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
13 May 2025
Civil Legal Aid Inquiry
Good morning. My question is one that I also put to the previous panel. The vast majority of domestic abuse survivors are women and, as the Scottish Women’s Rights Centre has said, survivors of domestic abuse often struggle to access civil legal aid and many of them need to pa...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
19 Mar 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Good morning, committee, cabinet secretary and officials. Amendment 85 would introduce a mandatory requirement for the making of non-harassment orders in the sentencing of sexual offenders. Having spoken to survivors of sexual crimes and domestic abuse, it is clear to me tha...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
02 Dec 2025
Violence against Women and Girls
At the same time, the SNP refuses to call for a grooming gangs inquiry, all in the name of political correctness, and chooses to bury its head in the sand as if grooming gangs are not a problem. The problem is not going away, but the SNP keeps kicking the can down the road. Th...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
30 Nov 2022
Violence Against Women and Girls (Men’s Role in Eradication)
I thank the minister for bringing such an important debate to the chamber, and I am honoured to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. This is my second debate this month to mark the international day for the elimination of violence against women. It is disa...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Nov 2021
Violence against Women
I am grateful to be contributing to today’s debate, but it gives me no pleasure to do so. The eradication of violence against women is a subject that is particularly close to my heart, as a woman, mother, aunty and daughter. I am sure that that is being felt strongly across t...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
21 Nov 2024
First Minister’s Question Time · Domestic Abuse
This week, shocking figures on domestic abuse were released, which indicated that the number of cases reported to Police Scotland had risen by 3 per cent and equalled almost 64,000 cases—that is one incident every 10 minutes. Behind every number is a terrible real life story. ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
03 Dec 2024
Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill
It would be good to hear back to ensure that stakeholders are not further burdened with heavy consultation. The minister mentioned that you will be looking at different techniques, which is important, because the people who you are engaging with do not have resources or time—i...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
08 May 2025
First Minister’s Question Time · Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill
In the past couple of months, I have been contacted by many survivors of domestic abuse from my West Scotland region and from across the country. Many of those brave women told me that their abusers were repeat offenders and that their ordeal could have been prevented. My Pre...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
27 May 2025
Civil Legal Aid Inquiry
Thank you, Marie-Louise, that is really helpful. My next question is on means testing. Witnesses who attended the committee over the past two weeks called for the removal of financial eligibility requirements for certain types of cases where domestic abuse is a factor. Survivo...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Mr Macpherson, I have not done nothing. Those three years were crucial for those survivors and organisations. You did not let me finish speaking about my engagement with the Government, so I will go on with that. I will come back to the committee to give exact details of my m...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Mar 2023
Misogyny (Criminal Law Reform)
I am honoured to contribute to this extremely important debate on reforming the criminal law to address misogyny. All too often, women are the target of criminal behaviour that is motivated by misogyny. Sexual crimes in Scotland are at the highest level on record and instan...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will start by saying a bit about the financial side. We are talking about a maximum cost of £23 million, which is only 0.5 per cent of the justice budget. In my opening statement, I mentioned that domestic abuse costs the public sector £7 billion over a three-year average pe...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you for the question, Ms Dowey. I have the letter from the minister right here. I have read it; please give me a couple of minutes to give my response to it. The Scottish Government’s response to the introduction of my bill was disappointing but not surprising. I strong...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
08 Oct 2025
Portfolio Question Time · Legal Aid (Survivors of Domestic Abuse)
Evidence heard by the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee has painted a shocking picture of the inability of survivors of domestic abuse to access legal aid. We have heard of survivors being denied legal aid because they were unable to provide figures for thei...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
07 Jan 2026
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do not agree at all that it will provide a minimum amount of protection. I have spoken to many survivors and many survivors’ parents—I know that the committee has not done that. The register would have a lot of information in it to make sure that survivors and victims can be...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
12 Jun 2025
First Minister’s Question Time · Clydebank Women’s Aid (Closure)
After more than four decades of tireless work, Clydebank Women’s Aid in West Dunbartonshire, which is in my region, will be shutting down. West Dunbartonshire has the second highest rate of domestic abuse in Scotland, with 153 incidents per 10,000 people. We must not underesti...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
03 Dec 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank all the witnesses for coming to discuss my bill. We are going through the 16 days of activism against sex-based violence, so it is important to raise awareness of domestic abuse. We know that, year after year, the number of cases is getting higher, and repeat offending...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
05 Dec 2024
Violence Against Women and Girls (Young People’s Voices)
I thank all the organisations that provided briefings for the debate and commend them for the hard work that they do. I also thank For Women Scotland for working with me to sponsor a round-table discussion this week that will highlight violence and sexual harassment in the wor...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
23 Nov 2022
International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women
I thank the member for her intervention, as that is a very serious point. It is deeply concerning that the United Nations expert on violence against women has expressed her concerns about legislation that is passing through this Parliament right now. After months, if not years...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
10 Dec 2024
Post-legislative Scrutiny
Minister, as I said, 64,000 cases were reported to Police Scotland—that is a 3 per cent rise on the year before. The number of reoffenders has gone up as well. What can you say to the survivors and victims who are out there listening today? Are they part of the Scottish Govern...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
20 May 2025
Civil Legal Aid Inquiry
Good morning. Thank you for the information that you have provided so far. We recently became aware of the case of a woman who was turned down not by one, not by two, but, shockingly, by 116 law firms that would not take up her divorce case. As you know, it takes a lot for a ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
20 May 2025
Civil Legal Aid Inquiry
Good morning. I thank the witnesses for the information that they have provided so far. Last week, I brought up the issue of abusive partners controlling all the household finances. In many cases, the abused person, which is usually the woman, does not know the household annua...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
18 Nov 2025
Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)
The protection of women and girls, especially those fleeing from domestic abuse, has been one of my top priorities since I entered Parliament. Earlier this year, the committee took evidence on access to civil legal aid and the barriers that many survivors of domestic abuse fac...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
21 Feb 2023
Victims Awareness Week
I am delighted to contribute to today’s extremely important motion on victims awareness week. I thank my colleague, Russell Findlay, for bringing the debate to the chamber. Since I began working on my domestic abuse prevention bill, I have been contacted by a number of wome...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
17 Jun 2025
British Sign Language Inquiry
Thank you. Lucy Clark also highlighted that many deaf women who experience domestic abuse assume that it is normal behaviour and do not even know what consent means. While working on my Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill, I came across a woman who had slurred speech,...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, and I will come on to that. What we are looking to do with the bill is to put that provision into legislation. It would not affect the equally safe strategy at all; if anything, it would work with that. As I have said, I have spoken to many local authorities—a few years...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
07 Jan 2026
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
To be clear, parts 1, 2 and 4 of the bill are based on models that are in operation already in Scotland. Part 2, on assessment of offenders for rehabilitation programmes and services, and part 4, on education, seek to ensure that the provisions for rehabilitation assessments a...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
07 Jan 2026
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As you know, not all domestic abuse offenders are being monitored under MAPPA. The minister could not provide an answer on that point when I put it to her on 17 December. Indeed, the Scottish Government admitted that 95 per cent of those who are monitored by MAPPA are sex offe...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
13 May 2025
Civil Legal Aid Inquiry
Thank you for that. I have a couple of supplementary questions. The Scottish Women’s Rights Centre has highlighted the issue of access to civil protection orders for survivors of domestic abuse. It says that, often, the burden of accessing legal protection falls on survivors, ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is a good question. I mentioned in my opening statement and in my answer to the convener what happens with the disclosure scheme. It is a good scheme, and my bill would work closely with it and with MAPPA. However, I have spoken to survivors, and I am aware that people wh...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
07 Jan 2026
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The primary purpose of the register would be to keep victims and survivors safe and to ensure that the notification scheme is in place so that we know who the serious offenders are. Right now, we do not even have the data to see who is covered and who is not monitored or cover...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
09 May 2023
Trauma-informed Justice for Victims and Witnesses
I, too, welcome the cabinet secretary to her new role. I am honoured to be contributing on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives to today’s debate on transforming justice in Scotland. Earlier this year, my colleague Jamie Greene described a frequent pattern in Scottish Governm...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
05 Dec 2024
Violence Against Women and Girls (Young People’s Voices)
Thank you. We need absolutely every penny. This is about not just domestic abuse and sexual violence but making sure that the streets are safe, so that our women and girls can go out in them. I absolutely welcome that money, but we have a lot more to do in the Parliament. We ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
18 Mar 2025
Public Sector Equality Duty
I have a few other questions. You touched on domestic abuse, minister. I have spoken to countless survivors of sexual assault and domestic abuse. Many of those women do not feel comfortable when surrounded by men and have stressed the importance of single-sex spaces. Do you be...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have to disagree with you there. When bringing forward legislation, whether it is a member’s bill or a Scottish Government bill, if we were to pack up and say, “Hold on—this legislation is not right,” we would never bring forward any legislation at all. Right now, there is a...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
27 Nov 2025
First Minister’s Question Time · 16 Days of Activism against Gender-based Violence
I welcome to the public gallery representatives from Women’s Rights Network Scotland and Beira’s Place, along with survivors of domestic abuse. Today, we held a vigil outside the Parliament, remembering the 46 women who have been killed by men in Scotland in the past five year...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
03 Mar 2026
“Sign LOUD: Perspectives of Deaf mothers and signing practitioners on domestic abuse, communication issues and the impact on Deaf families”
:You are absolutely right that there is a big gap in the data. That was one aspect that we looked at when I was working on my Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill. Right now, when anyone goes to a police station or to the police to report domestic abuse, whether they h...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
07 Jan 2026
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You have put three points to me. I will pass the first two to Charlie Pound, but I will take the final point, which was about MAPPA not being designed for domestic abuse. When the Scottish Government was working to create the Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Act 2023, ...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
16 Nov 2021
Conversion Therapy (PE1817)
Good morning. Today, we have heard from the opposite side. Previously, we heard from survivors and organisations that are for a ban on conversion therapy. It is very useful to hear from your side about how a ban could end up infringing on religious practices and parental right...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
15 Mar 2022
Conversion Practices
I am grateful for the opportunity to close the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. As a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, I begin, as my committee colleagues did, by expressing my gratitude to the witnesses for sharing their trauma...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
27 Feb 2024
Housing to 2040
Listening to everybody’s evidence is so important. Rhiannon, you said that the primary test was ensuring that everyone had a safe home, while Emma Jackson talked about citizens facing harm due to not having the right housing. Although housing to 2040 commits to implementing a...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
03 Dec 2024
Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill
It is good to hear that you are working on many projects and programmes. To go back to data collection, around 64,000 cases of domestic abuse were reported to Police Scotland in 2023-24, which is 3 per cent higher than the year before. It is reported that the police do not eve...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
10 Dec 2024
Post-legislative Scrutiny
Minister, today is the last day of the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence. For many women, 16 days are a lifetime. Indeed, the latest Scottish Government statistics paint a very shocking picture, with almost 64,000 domestic abuse cases reported to Police Scotlan...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
01 Apr 2025
Learning Disability, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill
I, too, thank Daniel Johnson for bringing this very important issue to the chamber. I am pleased to speak on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives on this subject, which has also been a topic of interest for the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, of which I a...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will start on that, then pass over to Charlie Pound, who can cover the technical points. I saw a lot of domestic abuse around me when I was growing up—not in my family, but among other friends and relatives. I have spoken to organisations and survivors, and Dr Marsha Scott ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
To go back to your question about whether my provision was modelled on the sex offenders register, I should say that it was not fully modelled on that. I listened to what survivors out there said that they wanted. The fact is that the onus is on them to contact authorities, wh...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
10 Dec 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have some questions for the other witnesses—thank you all for responding to the call for views and coming here today. It is interesting to listen to the feedback, as it helps us to make better legislation. While putting the bill together, I consulted many survivors who beli...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
09 Dec 2025
British Sign Language Inquiry
That was actually one of the organisations at the East Dunbartonshire Women’s Aid event. It went through the project that it is doing, so I was going to ask you: what about all the others? I have also mentioned many times that funding is only for a certain amount of time, bu...
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Criminal Justice Committee 25 June 2025

25 Jun 2025 · S6 · Criminal Justice Committee
Item of business
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Good morning. I introduced the Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill in May 2025, following the usual members’ bill process and with the support of the non-Government bills unit.

Growing up, I remember going into my mum’s shop in Argyle Street in Glasgow and seeing women crying, bleeding, bruised and very upset. At the time, I did not know what was happening. Later on in life, I realised that they were survivors of domestic abuse. Coming from black and minority ethnic communities, those women would rarely engage with authorities, so the extent of domestic abuse among them was not fully recorded or understood. To this day, I know many survivors who will not come forward because they think that the system is too weak, while the ones who do come forward often do not get the support that they need.

I am passionate about tackling domestic abuse, encouraging victims to come forward, making sure that survivors can trust the system that is in place to protect and support them and, ultimately, preventing further abuse.

Throughout my journey with the Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill, I have engaged with a wide range of stakeholders and survivors of domestic abuse. Initial engagement meetings began in 2022. Later that year, the formal consultation took place, and 95 per cent of individual respondents were supportive of the proposed bill. Since 2024, I have held several extremely positive, one-to-one meetings with domestic abuse organisations to discuss the provisions in the bill.

Domestic abuse is a horrific crime. Last year, around 64,000 such incidents were reported to Police Scotland, and an estimated 65 per cent of suspected perpetrators had previously been involved in related incidents. Just yesterday, we found out that there has been a 26 per cent increase in crimes recorded under the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018, compared with 2023-2024. Those are shocking figures, and they increase year after year. However, they are not just statistics—they represent real people going through this horrendous crime.

The aim of my bill is to reduce the incidence of domestic abuse and tackle reoffending through a series of measures. Those include preventative measures, rehabilitation measures, increased data collection, long-term monitoring of those who are convicted of domestic abuse and early intervention through education measures.

Part 1 of the bill introduces notification requirements for domestic abuse offenders. They would work similarly to notification requirements for sex offenders, to ensure that domestic abuse offenders can be effectively monitored and subject to monitoring and management through existing multi-agency public protection arrangements, known as MAPPA. Better tracking, monitoring and management of the risk that is posed by serious domestic abuse offenders will not only tackle reoffending but act as a deterrent, sending the message that domestic abuse will not be tolerated in Scotland.

Liz Shanks, a survivor of domestic abuse who appeared on the BBC programme “Disclosure”, said:

“Pam is putting through a Bill for a domestic abuse register. Those who commit certain domestic abuse offences would be placed on a register, managed by Police Scotland, and would be forced to update the police whenever their circumstances change, meaning the police will be better equipped to keep victims safe. The Bill she’s working on is really key to what we, as survivors, want to see for many reasons.”

Part 2 of the bill requires consideration of whether a person who has been convicted of domestic abuse offences is a suitable candidate to take part in rehabilitation programmes to prevent reoffending. Provisions would ensure that every key phase of an offender’s passage through the criminal justice system includes an assessment of their suitability for the appropriate rehabilitation services.

Part 3 of the bill places a requirement on Police Scotland, the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service and charities to ask for vital information about victims of domestic abuse, including their age, sex, disability, ethnicity and much more. The domestic abuse statistics that the Scottish Government currently publishes do not include information on victims’ disability or ethnicity, nor is that data collected, but we know that individuals with certain protected characteristics might be more at risk of domestic abuse. My bill seeks to address that gap. Knowing which groups suffer from domestic abuse and engage with services is an important step in preventing domestic abuse. Those provisions received full backing from Scottish Women’s Aid at the consultation stage.

Finally, part 4 of the bill is intended to ensure the provision of domestic abuse education across Scotland as standard. That would ensure that young people grow up mindful of the harm that domestic abuse causes, and it would equip them with the knowledge to identify concerning behaviour throughout their lives.

In response to the consultation on my bill, Victim Support Scotland quoted one young victim, who summed up the impact of domestic abuse education by saying:

“I want to spread the message to others about awareness of domestic abuse, to get more folk to open up about it ... We need to educate children, go into schools, and tell them what domestic abuse is.”

Although I realise that the estimated cost of the bill is substantial, the financial cost to the Scottish public sector of domestic abuse is estimated to be £7 billion over a three-year average period of abuse.

More importantly, victims are being failed. Right now, Police Scotland receives a call about domestic abuse roughly every eight minutes—that rate is far too high. We must do more to tackle this appalling crime, and my bill provides us with a historic opportunity to do so. By adopting the measures that it sets out, Scotland can be a world leader in preventing domestic abuse and take a substantial step towards eradicating violence against women and girls once and for all.

I thank members for listening.

In the same item of business

The Convener SNP
Our next agenda item is an evidence session on the Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill at stage 1 with the member in charge of the bill, Pam Gosal. ...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Good morning. I introduced the Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill in May 2025, following the usual members’ bill process and with the support of th...
The Convener SNP
Thank you for your opening remarks. I start with a pretty general opening question. As I am sure that you will be aware, our committee business is quite bill...
Pam Gosal Con
I will start by saying a bit about the financial side. We are talking about a maximum cost of £23 million, which is only 0.5 per cent of the justice budget. ...
The Convener SNP
I think that I am right in saying that your bill began its journey back in 2022. To what extent have you made sure that the figures that you are looking at o...
Pam Gosal Con
I have spoken to the police—as you know, the police have to stay neutral in the informal consultation. Although people might be positive about the bill, the ...
Agata Maslowska (Scottish Parliament)
Under part 1 of the bill, the main cost is in expanding the existing multi-agency public protection arrangements to include the most serious domestic abuse o...
The Convener SNP
I have a final question before I bring in Liam Kerr. You said that you anticipate that an additional 3,000 domestic abuse offenders would be included in the ...
Agata Maslowska
Yes—we added that caveat in the financial memorandum.
The Convener SNP
Before I bring in Liam Kerr, I think that Rona Mackay has a supplementary question.
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
Yes—it is just a small question on what Agata Maslowska said about the most serious sex offenders. What criteria are you using for that? What constitutes a ...
Charlie Pound (Conservative MSP Group)
With regard to domestic abuse offenders specifically, it would be those who were sentenced to 12 months or more for what is specified as a domestic abuse off...
Rona Mackay SNP
Basically, it is for sentences of 12 months or more.
Charlie Pound
Yes.
The Convener SNP
I will now bring in Liam Kerr.
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Pam Gosal, on your point that the provisions in your bill would act as a deterrent, I note that you based the notification requirements on those in the Sexua...
Pam Gosal Con
I have had a good look to see what evidence is out there. Sex offenders are already subject to notification requirements, as you know, and there is significa...
Charlie Pound
Just for clarification, the statistics on recidivism that Pam Gosal cited are from the Scottish Government’s official reoffending statistics. They relate spe...
Liam Kerr Con
Thank you for that—perhaps you could send that data to the committee. As I said, in the consultation, expert organisations have told us that that evidence is...
Pam Gosal Con
That is a good question. I mentioned in my opening statement and in my answer to the convener what happens with the disclosure scheme. It is a good scheme, a...
Liam Kerr Con
Before he does, I note that your answer suggests that any issue with the existing scheme is due to a lack of knowledge and awareness of what is already there...
Pam Gosal Con
Perhaps I did not put that right. When I talk about knowledge, I am not talking about what they should know about the scheme, I am talking about knowledge of...
Charlie Pound
I will just throw some statistics at you. A previous freedom of information request that I made showed that, in 2021-22, there were 1,959 disclosures under t...
Liam Kerr Con
I understand. Thank you.
The Convener SNP
I will bring in Pauline McNeill, who I think wanted to come in earlier.
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I have a question about which offenders would be caught by the scheme. Charlie Pound, you explained to Rona Mackay that offenders who had been given a 12-mo...
Charlie Pound
Yes.
Pauline McNeill Lab
So, is it both?
Charlie Pound
Both what, sorry?
Pauline McNeill Lab
The offenders who would be on the register would be those who were convicted on indictment and those who served—