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Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
31 Jan 2024
UK Covid-19 Inquiry
Summarising 17 years of deceit and cover-up in no more than five minutes is near impossible but, thanks to the motion that was lodged by the Scottish Conservatives, we can begin dissecting the shocking revelations from the UK Covid inquiry in Scotland so far. The pandemic was...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
01 Apr 2025
Learning Disability, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill
I, too, thank Daniel Johnson for bringing this very important issue to the chamber. I am pleased to speak on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives on this subject, which has also been a topic of interest for the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, of which I a...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
18 Nov 2025
Community Housing Advocacy Project
I, too, thank my colleague Kenneth Gibson for bringing this important members’ business debate to Parliament. I congratulate the Community Housing Advocacy Project, commonly known as CHAP, on its 25th anniversary and thank it for the great work that it does. CHAP offers free h...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
13 Jan 2026
Public Sector Equality Duty
I have a couple of questions. Minister, in its submission to the committee, Murray Blackburn Mackenzie warned that“Scottish public authorities are failing to meet their existing obligations in relation to protections for women and girls”and that“Failure to get the law right he...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
30 Jun 2022
Action Mesothelioma Day 2022
I welcome the opportunity to speak on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives in the debate. I thank Marie McNair for introducing this important topic for members’ business. I welcome the members of the Clydebank Asbestos Group and thank them for all the work that they have been ...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
07 Sep 2023
Programme for Government 2023-24 (Opportunity)
I have decided not to take an intervention. Why? Because for the past three days, we have been hearing from the Government benches, and it is about time that the SNP-Green Government listened. That is not its strong point. We know from the short-term lets group and the individ...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
27 Feb 2024
Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill
I will certainly not give way to that member. After speaking to 31 local authorities, it is clear to me that this decades-old, outdated system is in urgent need of reform. Just last week, the Deputy First Minister attempted to bully COSLA and all councils into accepting a cou...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
26 Mar 2024
Community Wealth Building
Good morning, everybody. I have three questions altogether. I hope to put two of them together, as they come under local public procurement, and then I have another question, which is on resources. In its consultation response, the FSB highlighted concerns that community weal...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
04 Feb 2025
Budget (Scotland) (No 4) Bill: Stage 1
Every year, the budget is a chance for the SNP Government to set a new direction for Scotland’s finances—to put more money back into the pockets of hard-working people, and to give businesses the support that they desperately need to thrive and to grow our economy. Instead, af...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
29 Apr 2025
Motion to Remove a Member of the Committee
I thank my colleague Tess White for lodging the motion, which recommends “that the Parliament remove Maggie Chapman MSP from office as a member of the Committee.” I agree with the points that Tess White has made and I will vote for the motion. As parliamentarians, it is our...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
19 Jun 2025
Action Mesothelioma Day 2025
I thank Marie McNair for bringing such an important topic to the chamber. Action mesothelioma day is dedicated to raising awareness of a devastating disease that has affected many lives in Scotland and beyond. In 2022, there were 2,257 mesothelioma deaths in the United Kingdo...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
27 Oct 2021
Portfolio Question Time · Covid Status App
The Scottish Government has failed to educate the public about the new passport rules, instead relying on businesses to do the work with no extra funding, no public awareness campaign and an unreliable app. Is it not time that the Scottish Government accepted that the app does...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
08 Mar 2022
International Women’s Day 2022
How fortunate I am today to stand in the chamber for the third time to address international women’s day. The first time was for a members’ business debate that was led by Michelle Thomson and the second was on Saturday, when many diverse women came together here. This is a s...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
31 May 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am talking about any public toilets or any public space.
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
20 Sep 2022
Tributes to Her Late Majesty the Queen
It is a great honour to speak in the chamber today to pay tribute to the long reign and full life of Her late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, on behalf of my constituents in the West of Scotland and my community. I express my condolences to His Majesty the King, the royal family ...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
27 Oct 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have said that I will not take interventions. The proposed bill is ill thought out, ill considered and, worst of all, unpredictable. It seeks to remove any medical oversight and opens the process to a group of unknown size and characteristics. Perhaps there is no perfect an...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
21 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
As this is the final group, I will try to deliver to the best of my ability, bearing in mind that it is nearly midnight and I am feeling slightly tired. Data collection is key to understanding and analysing the impact of the bill. As was made clear by the UN special rapporteu...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
05 Dec 2023
Scottish Public Services Ombudsman: “Annual Report 2022-23”
Good morning, panel. In the past seven years, complaints regarding the services of the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman have doubled. The SPSO has largely put that down to the backlog, which is in the process of being cleared. What steps does the ombudsman plan to take to lo...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
06 Feb 2024
Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am delighted to contribute to the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. The laws that deal with issues such as insolvency are vast and complex, which is unsurprising for an area of law that can affect people’s wellbeing so significantly. For people who are sufferi...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Feb 2024
Portfolio Question Time · Inward Migration (Rest of the UK)
Any understanding of the Laffer curve seems to escape members on the Scottish National Party front benches. Rather than increasing the number of taxpayers, the SNP seems hellbent on sending them away in what has been termed the “tartan exodus”. One of the main deterrents to li...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
27 Feb 2024
Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill
I am honoured to contribute to the stage 3 budget debate from the Scottish Conservative benches today. Everyone recognises that the relationship between national and local government is critical, especially as it is largely through local government that our public services are...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
30 Apr 2024
Rural and Island Housing
I thank the panel for their helpful responses. We have touched on the importance of rural housing to economic growth, and we are well aware that, certainly in remote areas, the renewables and space sectors, for example, show great promise for growth. When I have spoken to loca...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
28 May 2024
Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)
Good morning, panel. Thank you so much for giving us your opening statements and letting us know about all the work that you have done. Councillors are out and about in their local areas and are often recognised by the public for the work they do. Did the remuneration committ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
28 May 2024
Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)
We serve the public, whether we are an MSP, an MP or a councillor. It is in their hands to say whether we do a good enough job or add value to the local area on the work that we deliver. I think that there is something to look at there—maybe through asking for public opinion. ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
28 May 2024
Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)
I will turn the question on its head. Do members of the public fully understand a councillor’s role and the fact that they get paid a certain amount of money and that it is not a full-time role, even though, in its own way, it is? Shona Morrison mentioned that she cannot even ...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Oct 2024
First Minister’s Question Time · Police Officers (Pay)
This morning, police officers from across Scotland have been holding a silent demonstration in front of the Parliament, and many officers are currently in the public gallery. Years of brutal cuts from the Scottish Government have left hard-working police officers doing their j...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
12 Mar 2025
Single-sex Spaces (Public Sector)
I thought you were going to give me a minute more, Deputy Presiding Officer. I was really excited there. As we just marked international women’s day on Saturday, this debate, which has been brought by the Scottish Conservatives, could not be more timely. Since being elected ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
18 Mar 2025
Public Sector Equality Duty
You will be glad to know that I have only two more questions. The Scottish Prison Service policy for the management of transgender people in custody allows for some men and trans identities to be housed in the women’s estate. That includes violent men, providing they do not ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
18 Mar 2025
Public Sector Equality Duty
The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 state that changing rooms “shall not be suitable unless they include separate facilities for, or separate use of facilities by, men and women where necessary for reasons of propriety”. It is the Scottish Government’...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
24 Apr 2025
First Minister’s Question Time · Public Sector Equality Duty
As I mentioned earlier this week, I was honoured to attend and witness the United Kingdom Supreme Court’s judgment, which provided clarity on what a woman is. However, some members in the chamber refuse to accept it. Although it is now the law that biological sex trumps gender...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
25 Jun 2025
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning. I introduced the Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill in May 2025, following the usual members’ bill process and with the support of the non-Government bills unit. Growing up, I remember going into my mum’s shop in Argyle Street in Glasgow and seeing wom...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Sep 2025
Supreme Court Judgment (Definition of “Woman” in the Equality Act 2010)
Before I begin, I welcome to the public gallery, and thank, For Women Scotland and all the organisations and individuals who are fighting tooth and nail for women’s rights. I am extremely proud to stand here today, delivering a speech on an issue that is so important to women ...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
08 Oct 2025
Illegal Immigration
I put it on record that I am pleased that the Scottish Conservatives managed to secure a debate on the important issue of illegal immigration. Immigration has brought many benefits to Scotland. Many of our doctors, nurses, teachers, police officers and firefighters are immigr...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
04 Feb 2026
Council Tax
I praise my party, the Scottish Conservatives, for bringing this very important topic to the chamber. Local governance affects each and every one of us. Our local roads, schools, parks and social care services are primarily the responsibility of our councils. However, 19 years...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
13 Jan 2026
Public Sector Equality Duty
I have a bit of a technical supplementary. Section 112(3) of the Equality Act 2010 states:“B commits an offence if B knowingly or recklessly makes a statement mentioned in subsection (2)(a) which is false or misleading in a material respect.”Does EHRC consider that public bodi...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
13 Jan 2026
Public Sector Equality Duty
Thank you, convener. I have one question and then a supplementary. John, you said in response to my colleague Tess White that the EHRC sent an updated code of practice for services, public functions and associations to the UK Government following the Supreme Court judgment in ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
13 Jan 2026
Public Sector Equality Duty
Okay. I have a quick, sharp question. It has been almost a year since the Supreme Court ruling on the definition of the word “woman”, yet little progress has been made. Last month, I met with the chief constable, Jo Farrell, who said that Police Scotland did not wait for any g...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
07 Jan 2026
Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, and happy new year. I begin by thanking the committee for the scrutiny that it has undertaken so far on my member’s bill. I have found it very interesting to listen to all the evidence that you have heard, and I think that I can most usefully focus my opening rem...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
02 Nov 2021
Petition
Today, we have heard that conversion therapy happens in the home, the community and religious settings. I want to ask about the enforcement agencies and complaints system around the ban, should it be implemented. Given what you know about other countries that have worked on su...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
11 Nov 2021
Cross-Party Groups
Good morning. The proposed cross-party group on India seeks to promote relationships between Scotland and India. The principal aim of our CPG is to work with organisations and authorities to strengthen cultural, educational and economic ties between our two countries. Given th...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
22 Dec 2021
Portfolio Question Time · Draft Budget 2022-23 (Stakeholders)
There is a cut of £1.1 million to drug services, a £2 million real-terms cut to prisons and a £371 million real-terms cut to local authorities. In my region, West Dunbartonshire Council faces a funding gap of around £7 million, and that is not to mention the £2 million cut to ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
11 Jan 2022
Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you so much for being honest. Jim McBrierty, I want to touch on something that you talked about. You went on to become public order commander. Looking back, is there anything that you would have done differently, if you had been in that policing role at the time?
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
03 Feb 2022
Refugees and Asylum Seekers
It has been very interesting and informative to listen to all the responses. As the convener said, I am a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, which has been discussing a human rights-based approach to budgets. Would local authorities benefit fro...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
15 Mar 2022
Conversion Practices
I am grateful for the opportunity to close the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. As a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, I begin, as my committee colleagues did, by expressing my gratitude to the witnesses for sharing their trauma...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Mar 2022
First Minister’s Question Time · Tackling Racism
Tim Rideout, who is a senior Scottish National Party adviser, made appalling racist comments about the Home Secretary. Such comments have no place in society, let alone in political debate. I welcome the fact that the SNP has taken quick action in suspending Mr Rideout and lau...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
03 May 2022
World Press Freedom Day 2022
I am delighted to be contributing to today’s debate, which was secured by my colleague Russell Findlay. Journalism is the best antidote to disinformation. However, it is completely blocked, seriously impeded or restrained in 73 per cent of the countries evaluated. Despite a no...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
14 Jun 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, panel. Thank you for your opening remarks and for the information that you have provided. In particular, Karon Monaghan was very knowledgeable in breaking down where a GRC applies and does not apply and the relationship between gender and sex. My question follow...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
07 Sep 2022
Public Sector Pay and Emergency Budget Review
Does the Deputy First Minister agree that, if the Scottish Government had not wasted hundreds of millions on ferries that do not float, the malicious prosecution of Rangers, the delays with the sick kids hospital, of course, and other botched SNP projects, he would not be anno...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
28 Sep 2022
Research Excellence Framework Results 2021
I am honoured to hold my second members’ business debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives, and to be celebrating Scotland’s status as a world-leading research nation. I thank Universities Scotland and Scotland’s Rural College for sending briefings ahead of the debate. ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
19 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill
Thank you, Reem. To follow on from that, I have another question. Since you published your letter to the UK Government, several parties have reached out to speak with you to gain a deeper understanding of your intervention. At a meeting that I attended, you mentioned briefly t...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
18 Jan 2023
National Robotarium
I am delighted to contribute to today’s debate, and I thank Gordon MacDonald for lodging a motion that recognises the important research that is being done at the National Robotarium. As I have said before, innovative technology and the great minds that are behind it are the ...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
02 Mar 2023
General Question Time · Homelessness
Thirty-six people have needlessly died while in temporary accommodation in six hotels across Glasgow. Campaigners argue that hotels are not equipped to support people who are in a crisis, so vulnerable individuals are missing out on access to potentially life-saving drug and a...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
28 Feb 2023
Petition
I agree with Rachael and with everything else that has been said. I put on record my thanks to the petitioner as well. I do not know whether this has been mentioned, but I have made a note that we should write to the office of the public guardian or the Mental Health Welfare ...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Mar 2023
Misogyny (Criminal Law Reform)
I am honoured to contribute to this extremely important debate on reforming the criminal law to address misogyny. All too often, women are the target of criminal behaviour that is motivated by misogyny. Sexual crimes in Scotland are at the highest level on record and instan...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
21 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
It will absolutely affect those people. Indeed, some of my amendments talk about that, and I have mentioned the issue many times in committee and in this chamber. We must have balanced rights for everyone. I come from a minority ethnic background; I will talk about that and ab...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
23 May 2023
Minimum Core Obligations
In the past couple of committee meetings, the housing emergency has been raised quite a lot. I would like to better understand what the minimum core obligation would look like in practice in relation to housing. Currently, Scotland has a housing emergency—we all know that. We ...
Pam Gosal Con Committee
19 Sep 2023
Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25
Thank you, Johanna. I absolutely agree with you. The officers were brilliant, to be honest. They were really trying to make good of a difficult situation. It was a public meeting, so that is why I am speaking about it today. It was important that, as an elected member, I stepp...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
05 Oct 2023
Veterans and Armed Forces Community
I am honoured to contribute to today’s important debate in support of veterans and the armed forces community. Along with my colleagues, I will support the Government motion. I consider myself lucky to have met a number of veterans who have served our country and to have met ...
Pam Gosal Con Chamber
16 Nov 2023
Culture in Communities
I do not think that I have enough time. The committee was therefore right to recommend that the Government work with Creative Scotland, the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and individual councils to assess the impact of the current physical environment on local cultu...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Nov 2023
Portfolio Question Time · Council Tax Freeze (Impact on Midlothian North and Musselburgh)
The member is right to question how a council tax freeze will affect households in Midlothian North and Musselburgh, but is it not the case that it will also affect households across Scotland, including my West Scotland region, when it comes to the delivery of public services?...
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Meeting of the Parliament 31 January 2024

31 Jan 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
UK Covid-19 Inquiry

Summarising 17 years of deceit and cover-up in no more than five minutes is near impossible but, thanks to the motion that was lodged by the Scottish Conservatives, we can begin dissecting the shocking revelations from the UK Covid inquiry in Scotland so far.

The pandemic was a test of leadership. Political leaders were faced with tough choices, and I am that sure we can all sympathise with that. Decisions were made that affected lives, livelihoods, education and resilience. We can only trust that, when the storm passes, political leaders can give an account of why decisions were made. However, an SNP Government that is addicted to secrecy has made that a near-impossible task.

Now, brave families have questions to which they may never get the answers. Just today, we found out that Nicola Sturgeon was economical with the truth when she told the media in 2021 that no evidence would be off limits. We now know that she had already destroyed it, although, amazingly, she still had her WhatsApp exchanges with her one-time best buddy, Alex Salmond.

John Swinney deleted his messages with Nicola Sturgeon, and former chief of staff Liz Lloyd did the same. There was a clear and concerted effort by key decision makers to hide crucial messages.

We now know that vital gold command meetings were kept secret from some of the most senior ministers at that time, including Kate Forbes. Much to no one’s surprise, ministers claim that they have no minutes for those meetings. It is inconceivable that civil servants did not take notes at those meetings—where are those notes?

Instead, the bereaved will have to put their faith in Nicola Sturgeon’s selective memory and politically driven decision making. Sadly, the evidence that remains shows that decisions made by Nicola Sturgeon and her closest colleagues were most likely drawn up on the back of a fag packet. It was not just poor decision making—it was their motivation.

The public will ask, “Surely the Scottish Government would not have allowed grievance to drive decision making while lives and livelihoods were on the line?” However, that is indeed what happened. Nicola Sturgeon’s chief adviser wanted to create a

“good old-fashioned rammy”

with the UK Government and to call for things that it could not do. At this point, it is reasonable to conclude that the Scottish Government’s obsession with independence borders on dangerous and clouds its judgment.

It came as no surprise to hear that Humza Yousaf had been “winging it” in his time as health secretary—that much was obvious. Much more surprising was that, despite the continued assertion of moral superiority, Humza Yousaf was all too happy to take advice from Jason Leitch, the chief clinical adviser, on how to bend the rules that they were imposing on everybody else.

It was enlightening to see what a laugh SNP ministers had at the expense of the public, joking about how they would delete messages and subvert freedom of information requests. It does not surprise me that the SNP derives so much pleasure from avoiding public scrutiny. After all, it has treated the public and the Parliament with utter contempt. All this from the self-proclaimed most transparent party in Scotland—aye, right. If that were the case, it would commit to reconvening the COVID-19 Recovery Committee so that the Parliament could scrutinise the revelations, and it would refer itself to an independent investigation.

The UK Covid inquiry has laid bare the culture of secrecy within the SNP Scottish Government—it has rotted from the top down. That culture runs through ministers past and present. It has also confirmed what everyone could already see—that, even during the global pandemic, the SNP Scottish Government still tried to manufacture as much conflict and political grievance as possible. It aimed for independence at any cost, even when lives were on the line.

The SNP played a blinder. It had many people fooled, but grieving families want justice, and they want answers—they are nobody’s fool.

16:03  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-12010, in the name of Douglas Ross, on United Kingdom Covid-19 inquiry revelations. I invite members who ...
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
The Covid-19 pandemic affected people across the globe, and every single person in Scotland. The public were forced to spend months effectively restricted in...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
The member talks about people being serious. Does he think that Boris Johnson was serious enough about the pandemic?
Douglas Ross Con
We had a question in the office about how long it would take the SNP to mention Boris Johnson—I had gone for earlier than four minutes, in fairness. Let us ...
Douglas Ross Con
Mr Mason will defend the SNP Government for using the pandemic for purely political purposes.
John Mason SNP
I ask again whether the UK Government and Michael Gove did not do exactly the same.
Douglas Ross Con
No, they did not. In this inquiry, we have seen that the top spin doctor to the former First Minister was looking to start a fight with the UK Government. Re...
Ruth Maguire (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP
I will not be the only person in the chamber who lost someone during the pandemic and who will be finding this display quite despicable. We are serious polit...
Douglas Ross Con
This is the actual debate. I respect Ruth Maguire. She stood up and could not defend her own Government wanting to use a pandemic to boost independence. I am...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Shona Robison to speak to and move amendment S6M-12010.5. 15:12
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Finance (Shona Robison) SNP
The Covid-19 pandemic touched every life in Scotland. Throughout it, the Scottish Government’s absolute priority was always to keep the people of this countr...
Douglas Ross Con
Does the Deputy First Minister accept that, although everyone wants the inquiries to come up with conclusions that can be used in the future, their work is b...
Shona Robison SNP
I do not believe that the work of the inquiries is being hampered. I believe that the inquiries are being robust, they will get to the truth of the matter, a...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shona Robison SNP
Briefly.
Brian Whittle Con
The cabinet secretary said that there should be no political interference during the Covid inquiry. Why then, as soon as Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak stood ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Speak through the chair.
Shona Robison SNP
There is no comparison. Interruption. Let me turn to the matter of informal messages, such as WhatsApps, which Douglas Ross has focused on. The Scottish Go...
Douglas Ross Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention on that point?
Shona Robison SNP
Not just now. That fact is demonstrated by the following quote, which was given to the UK inquiry in a witness statement from the Prime Minister, Rishi Suna...
Douglas Ross Con
Will the Deputy First Minister take an intervention on that point?
Shona Robison SNP
In a minute. Of course the material that the Scottish Government has provided to the UK inquiry to date includes emails, messages, submissions and advice to...
Douglas Ross Con
If the Scottish Government policy of deleting messages is correct and is so important, why did Kate Forbes as finance secretary not know about it, and why di...
Shona Robison SNP
I have been clear in setting out the policy, which was about making sure that any salient points were transcribed to the official record and then other infor...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that there really is no time in hand, so members will have to stick to their speaking time allocations and accommodate interventions within ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
As we debate the culture of secrecy and cover-up that has been laid bare in the UK Covid-19 inquiry, let us remember that at the heart of this scandal are th...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Does Jackie Baillie agree with the Conservatives on these benches that we should reconvene the COVID-19 Recovery Committee so that we can get some transparen...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Although I have no objection to that, I am unclear how a committee would do any better than Lady Hallett is doing, in fairness. Having been on the Salmond co...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Ms Baillie, please resume your seat for a second. There is far too much background noise. Let us show respect and listen to the person who has the floor.
Jackie Baillie Lab
Thank you. I was coming to why I think that those actions are a potential breach of the law. Officials appear to have deliberately attempted to communicate i...