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Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
The First Minister will note that our amendment recognises that there is, of course, a UK context to what we are debating today. Through policy interventions at a UK level, we must do everything that we can to eradicate child poverty. I remind the First Minister that that is w...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2023
Cost of Living and Child Poverty
I take this opportunity to welcome the cabinet secretary to her post. I wish her well in her new role and look forward to working constructively with her on our shared goal of making Scotland a better, fairer and more equitable society. I also take this opportunity to pay trib...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Oct 2024
Challenge Poverty Week 2024
I am pleased to bring to the chamber this debate to mark challenge poverty week 2024, and I thank members of all parties who signed the motion to allow the debate to take place. It is an important symbol of the cross-party consensus that really ought to govern how we debate in...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
05 Sep 2024
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
It would be useful to understand how that figure has been arrived at, because the Deputy First Minister had trouble articulating it this morning on “Good Morning Scotland”. It would also be useful if, in her summing up, the cabinet secretary could explain how the modelling has...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
07 Jan 2025
Child Poverty
I will, Presiding Officer. Given that, clearly, Russell Findlay has some kind of idea that we, on this side of the chamber, should all be listening to about how to reduce child poverty, deal with the issues and invest in public services, perhaps Stephen Kerr and colleagues mi...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
04 Oct 2023
Two-child Benefit Cap
I have said that the policy is a pernicious policy. I am committed to—and the Labour Party is committed to—examining every part of the universal credit system to make sure that it works. If the cabinet secretary wants to roll her eyes and not listen to the fact that we need to...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
07 Feb 2024
Social Security (Investment)
I believe that Ms Forbes has participated in a number of social security debates in which we have had this interaction before. I am very clear that Labour wants to fundamentally reform the system, because universal credit does not work and it is not working for all parts of ou...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
05 Sep 2024
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
The cabinet secretary and I debated issues around child poverty five or six times in the chamber pre-election, and each time that we did so, I made it clear that the financial decisions and ruinous policies of the Conservative Party have led to an exacerbation of poverty. That...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Apr 2023
Scotland’s Finances and the Cost of Living
I am pleased to have the opportunity to contribute to this extremely important and timely debate and to speak in support of the motion in the name of my colleague Michael Marra. As we have heard from the opening speakers across the chamber, we face two huge crises in Scotland...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
13 Jun 2023
Child Poverty
Although we should all welcome the new modelling that predicts that 90,000 fewer children are expected to live in poverty, it is deeply concerning to see that there is an upward trend in levels of persistent poverty across Scotland. That needs serious and focused action in ord...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
As we have already heard, there is no issue that we debate in this chamber that is more important than the work to tackle child poverty; all parliamentarians desire to reduce the levels of child poverty. I heard what the First Minister said about the desire for consensus in ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2023
Cost of Living and Child Poverty
Mr Macpherson has pre-empted me. I was just about to come to some concrete solutions. I take the opportunity to say to Ben Macpherson that I thought he performed well in his role as minister for social security and that it is a sad fact that there is no longer a dedicated mini...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
I thank the cabinet secretary for advance sight of her statement. When Scottish Labour left office in 2007, we had brought down relative child poverty after housing costs, from 31 per cent to 24 per cent, and the previous UK Labour Government lifted 1 million children out of ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
15 Jun 2022
Health and Wellbeing of Children and Young People
As many argued during the debate, we should not be under any illusions that, in the face of the current cost of living crisis, there is not a huge challenge in terms of poverty and the issues that it is creating for children and young people across our country. In the evidenc...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 Mar 2024
Addressing Child Poverty Through Parental Employment
It is a pleasure to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. I welcome the chance to highlight the report to Parliament and to highlight the important role that improved parental employability has to play in our fight against child poverty. Tackling poverty, and in parti...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
05 Sep 2024
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
As always when we debate child poverty, I start by highlighting the consensus that—as we have already heard this afternoon—there is no more important mission or goal, and no more important subject that we debate in the chamber. The goal to eradicate child poverty, as the Gove...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
10 Oct 2024
Challenge Poverty Week 2024
I thank my friend for his intervention; he makes an important point. As we discuss these thematic issues, it is clear to me that poor health, particularly poor mental health, can be a result of poverty and that poverty can be a social determinant of health. We need to deal wit...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
I will give way in a moment if Mr Doris will allow me to make a little more progress. The Parliament unanimously backed the Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017, which set legally binding targets to reduce the number of children experiencing the effects of poverty by 2030. In th...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
04 Oct 2023
Two-child Benefit Cap
I am not entirely sure what the cabinet secretary is driving at. Angela Rayner and Keir Starmer, in conjunction with the TUC, have endorsed the document. He will back to the letter the policy that the document outlines, which we will deliver when in government. I have no idea ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
07 Jan 2025
Child Poverty
If Mr Swinney allows me to make a little progress, I will allow him back in. The point that I was moving on to make is about the length of time that we have spent looking at the issues. The Government has set its motion in the context of the budget. For many months, the First...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
I thank Bob Doris for bringing the debate to the chamber. There are few issues as pressing and important as tackling child poverty, and it should be the focus of far more of our time in the chamber and far more of our collective energies in working on the solutions to tackle i...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
The minister has said that a future Labour Government would do nothing to lift children out of poverty. Would she agree with me that raising the national minimum wage to the level of the living wage, banning zero-hours contracts, ensuring rights for workers from day 1, increas...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
23 Apr 2024
Two-child Benefit Cap
Mr Balfour has heard me say before that the entire system is not working. That is why we must take a whole-system approach and look at all the facets and measures of universal credit. We will not take advice from a Tory Government that has, as I have outlined, pushed more and ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
19 Sep 2024
General Question Time · Inequalities in Outcomes
The report follows from a series of reports published by the Poverty and Inequality Commission earlier this year. Among the comments of the anti-poverty groups that responded to the programme for government were those of Save the Children, which said that there is “nothing in...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 Oct 2024
Challenge Poverty Week
In closing the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour, I will return to some of the themes that we opened with. Anas Sarwar, Patrick Harvie and others opened with the Joseph Rowntree Foundation report on poverty in Scotland that was released yesterday morning. The report makes it...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
08 Oct 2024
Challenge Poverty Week
Mr Findlay had an opportunity there—he chose not to when I intervened on him earlier—to apologise for the way in which the previous Government conducted itself with regard to the public finances. Let us remember—let nobody in the chamber forget—that Mr Findlay is a supporter o...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Nov 2021
Social Security Benefits
I thank all the organisations that provided briefing material ahead of today’s debate. We have heard about the work of the Child Poverty Action Group in Scotland and the MS Society. The creation of Social Security Scotland is testament to the power of devolution, and we want ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
26 Apr 2022
Low-income Families (Access to School Education)
I thank my regional colleague for that intervention. There is clearly concern about the pace at which the devices are being rolled out. Last year and during the lockdown period, it was fundamentally important that young people could get access to digital devices, so that they ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2023
Government Priorities for Scotland
Hundreds of Scots are struggling more than ever, and they need this Government to focus on their priorities. Child poverty has remained at 24 per cent for the entire time that the SNP has been in government, and levels of severe child poverty have been rising. The First Minis...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
06 Sep 2023
Equality within the 2023-24 Programme for Government
The Deputy First Minister well knows that, budget after budget, the Scottish Labour Party has brought to the chamber proposals on how we can accelerate to £12 an hour and £15 an hour. The former finance secretary said that £12 an hour could not be done and consistently refused...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
06 Sep 2023
Equality within the 2023-24 Programme for Government
Each year, that commitment slips further and further into the parliamentary calendar for delivery. Today, along with my colleagues, I met campaigners outside Parliament on the issue. Reece, Sandy and Kerry were just some of the people who spoke to me about the huge difference...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
Shirley-Anne Somerville said: “It’s not our policy to alleviate the two-child cap.” Perhaps that is a straight answer for Mr Doris’s constituents. I had more to say about debt. Aberlour Child Care Trust’s excellent briefing for the debate points to the vicious cycle of debt...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Oct 2023
Two-child Benefit Cap
We meet this afternoon in the middle of challenge poverty week, and, as I have said before in the chamber, there are few issues as important as tackling poverty. It should be the focus of far more of our time in this place, particularly in terms of how we use the powers of thi...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Nov 2023
Dying in the Margins Project
It is my pleasure to have secured today’s debate on the dying in the margins report, which was produced by the University of Glasgow and Marie Curie. I welcome to the Parliament family members and friends of some of the study participants who are with us in the gallery today. ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
07 Feb 2024
Social Security (Investment)
This is at least the third debate that we have had on social security in the past 12 months. As always, I will begin with a note of consensus. As in previous debates, the Scottish Labour Party recognises the impact that social security has in supporting people across Scotland,...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
20 Feb 2024
Social Security
It is interesting that Ms Haughey has brought up the matter of pensions. We do not have any detail from the Scottish Government on pensions in an independent Scotland. She wants to have a debate about pensions right now, but the SNP does not have a paper on pensions, it does n...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 Apr 2024
Two-child Benefit Cap
I am pleased to contribute to this evening’s debate. Clare Haughey’s motion provides Parliament with an opportunity to look back at social security across the UK, including here in Scotland, over the seven-year period. We know that those seven years have been part of a longer ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
28 Nov 2024
Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)
I want to build on what Chris Birt has said. The Poverty and Inequality Commission’s submission refers to the focus on those people who are on the cusp of the poverty line and on how there is perhaps too much focus on incomes. Professor Sinclair, would you like to touch on tha...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
05 Dec 2024
Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)
I am sure that the committee will look forward to having further discussion about that. I will move on to my substantive questions, which are about statistics and data in relation to the Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017, which colleagues will also want to cover. In the cabin...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
07 Jan 2025
Child Poverty
Deputy Presiding Officer, I take this opportunity to wish you and colleagues across the chamber a happy new year. I begin, as I always do in such debates, by stating again that tackling child poverty should be a priority across the chamber and in all spheres of government and...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
01 Apr 2025
Fuel Poverty
I thank the minister for advance sight of his statement. The update follows the debate that we had on the issue just a few weeks ago. What came out of that debate was a solemn realisation across all parties of the stark and numerous pressures and changes that we have seen acro...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
29 May 2025
Eradicating Child Poverty
Good morning. Cabinet secretary, when your party came to power, relative child poverty was at 23 per cent after housing costs were taken into account. Last year, as we have heard, the figure was 22 per cent, so there has been a 1 percentage point fall in 18 years. The Governme...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
29 May 2025
Eradicating Child Poverty
I know that colleagues will talk about data and that we have already spoken about the child payment—I think that we are all agreed on its importance and on some of the anecdotal evidence that has been raised—but I have a final question under this theme on the modelling that th...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
17 Jun 2025
Child Poverty
I thank the cabinet secretary for the advance sight of her statement, both at the usual time and in her morning press exclusives. There has been a lot of spin and, in the statement, there is a myriad of excuses, but the reality is that there is also failure. For all the rheto...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
31 May 2022
Tackling Drug Deaths and Drug Harm
The debate and the joint work that preceded it have been important and broadly positive and are a strong example of cross-committee collaboration in Parliament. That work also reflects the cross-sectoral nature of the significant challenges that we face in tackling drugs death...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
15 Jun 2022
Health and Wellbeing of Children and Young People
I am pleased to have the opportunity to close this important debate on behalf of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee. As we have heard this afternoon, the inquiry has highlighted a number of key challenges and opportunities that we face, as Scotland seeks to improve th...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
06 Sep 2023
Equality within the 2023-24 Programme for Government
As I have just said, the Government is on track to miss the legally binding poverty reduction targets that have been set. Clarion calls have been made in relation to the fact that the Government is going to miss those targets. Interruption. No—I need to make progress. No orga...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
I would like to make some progress. The next Labour Government will fundamentally reform the universal credit system and introduce a child poverty strategy that will ensure that driving down child poverty runs through every aspect and policy area of Government, delivering a p...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
14 Sep 2023
Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry
Good morning to the panel and to the minister. Thinking about the current childcare offer and the plans that were announced in relation to expansion, to what extent does the Government expect the childcare policy to reduce child poverty in time to meet the 2030 targets that w...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
14 Sep 2023
Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry
I am interested in pulling together the various strands of our discussion to look at the cross-cutting nature of anti-poverty work across Government. How are you embedding those actions on child poverty across Government? I appreciate that that is a broad question, but it woul...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Feb 2024
Social Security
This is now the fourth debate that we have had on social security in Government time in 12 months, but it differs from the previous debates because this latest debate from the Government is the clearest demonstration that ministers have their heads in the sand—or, perhaps more...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
20 Feb 2024
Social Security
I will make some progress, if the member does not mind. We focused on the cuts to the housing budget, which will have a hugely detrimental impact on poverty reduction in Scotland, but it is not just that. The social security system in the devolved context is creaking. The av...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
23 May 2024
Scottish Child Payment
Good morning, panel. Following on from the earlier theme, I am interested in monitoring and evaluation. We have covered quite a lot of that already, but I would be particularly interested to hear the panel’s views on the Scottish Government’s modelling of the impact of the chi...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
30 May 2024
Scottish Child Payment
We had a discussion last week about keeping people in poverty versus lifting people out of poverty, and about the relevance of the poverty line. Do you have a view on the terminology?
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
06 Jun 2024
First Minister’s Question Time · Child Poverty
On Tuesday, the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice stood where the Deputy First Minister is and delivered the annual update on progress to tackle child poverty. We know that levels of child poverty in Scotland have been stagnant for 17 years and that, on many measures, they ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
I am glad that the Deputy First Minister is taking the work of the Poverty and Inequality Commission seriously. When I asked her about the issue when she was deputising for the First Minister last week, I do not think that I got such a detailed response. Indeed, she affirmed a...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Jun 2024
Portfolio Question Time · Child Poverty Practice Accelerator Fund
The scale of the challenge that we face in Scotland is serious. As poverty levels have been static for the 17 years of this Scottish National Party Government, attempts to find new and effective approaches are welcome, but stakeholders will be concerned about how frustratingly...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
10 Oct 2024
Challenge Poverty Week 2024
Ms Haughey and I have debated these issues many times, and she knows that I am committed to a review of universal credit that includes the two-child limit. That work has been set in the context of the child poverty task force, which the UK Government is taking forward. The Sec...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
28 Nov 2024
Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)
Colleagues will come on to ask about data and aspects such as modelling. John Dickie referenced the Scottish child payment and the efforts to understand facets such as the depth of its impact. More broadly, academic work has been commissioned on that, which the committee will ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
30 Jan 2025
First Minister’s Question Time · “UK Poverty 2025”
The Joseph Rowntree Foundation’s report is, of course, serious and sobering, as it is every year. It shows that the child poverty rate in Scotland is static at 24 per cent, which means that 250,000 children are in poverty. The First Minister and I have previously had construct...
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Meeting of the Parliament 11 June 2024

11 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Child Poverty

The First Minister will note that our amendment recognises that there is, of course, a UK context to what we are debating today. Through policy interventions at a UK level, we must do everything that we can to eradicate child poverty. I remind the First Minister that that is what the previous Labour Government did in this country through our interventions to reform the welfare state, ensure that child benefits were paid and ensure that there was a national minimum wage—I know that he was a member of the Westminster Parliament when that ground-breaking legislation was passed. All those measures from 1997 to 2010 are at the heart of what Labour Governments do, which is why we are so committed to reforming the social contract once again.

Before the First Minister’s intervention, I was making the point that in-work poverty is of huge concern to me and other Labour members. We must do more to support people who find themselves working in a job while feeling insecure, not being well paid, not having their rights at work protected and being reliant on food banks and food parcels, which is something that the First Minister rightly spoke about in his speech.

That is why we have set out quite clearly that we need a new deal for working people. We need to increase wages in order to provide a real living wage, ban the use of exploitative zero-hours contracts and end fire-and-rehire practices, alongside providing from day 1 other rights that are vital to ensuring that people can feel secure when going to work and can bring home a wage that will support them and lift children out of poverty. As I have said, that work will sit alongside action to fundamentally reform the universal credit system in order to make it work far better than it does currently.

It is clear that we need to reflect on all the efforts and interventions that are required to reduce child poverty. I ask the Scottish Government to reflect on what was said in the Poverty and Inequality Commission’s report and to consider its own decision making, which has created a number of challenges, not least in supporting people into work. I have raised in the chamber previously my concerns about reductions to the parental employability support fund, the removal of the parental transition fund and the slowed-down roll-out of the fair work agenda, given that we need to grow the support that is available.

I point to the cross-party work of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, which has looked at a number of important pilots and innovative pieces of work across Scotland on those issues. For example, I highlight the work of Fife Gingerbread—which will be known to the First Minister and the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice—to support employers and to support people back into work. Such organisations are vital, and we must do all that we can to support those sorts of interventions.

I call on the Government to look at what it can do to support more local initiatives at local authority level, because we must ensure that we work across all spheres of government. The First Minister spoke about the relationship between the UK Government and the Scottish Government, but we must also recognise the relationship between the Scottish Government and local government, given the particular challenges that have resulted from cuts to local government funding during the period in which the First Minister has been a member of the Government.

I will begin to draw my remarks to a conclusion. We all want action to reduce child poverty—there is a degree of consensus in the chamber about that. However, the Government must reflect on the fact that, in the 17 years in which it has been in power and has had the levers of power in Scotland, child poverty has sat at the same level—it is 24 per cent, which is the same as in 2007; indeed, on many measures it has gone up.

An incoming UK Labour Government will focus on ensuring that we make the changes that we have to make so that people who are in work do not experience the same levels of poverty, and to fundamentally reform the social contract in this country. That is clearly the action that we would take and would want to take. We will work constructively with any Government and anyone who shares that vision and ideal to ensure that we take significant action to reduce child poverty and take steps towards eradicating it, because that is the right thing to do.

I move, amendment S6M-13566.2, to leave out from first “eradicating” to end and insert:

“child poverty should be a national mission for the Scottish Government, but deeply regrets that after 17 years of a Scottish National Party (SNP) administration, child poverty levels, after housing costs, have remained static, and that the most recent child poverty single-year statistics estimate that the number of children in Scotland living in poverty has now increased in 2022-23 to 260,000; acknowledges that the Poverty and Inequality Commission’s Scrutiny Report, published last week, provided a damning assessment of the SNP administration’s progress on tackling child poverty across a number of areas, noting that progress from the Scottish Government 'is slow or not evident at all'; disagrees with the Scottish Government’s decisions to slash the affordable housing budget, freeze the Scottish Welfare Fund, abandon parental employability schemes and decimate the Fuel Insecurity Fund, all of which act as barriers to prevent more children in Scotland falling into poverty; recognises that SNP inaction has been coupled with 14 years of dire economic mismanagement under the UK Conservative administration, which has led to increased child poverty rates across the UK; condemns the fact that, despite professing to tackle child poverty under successive First Ministers, child poverty is increasing, and the Scottish Government is now set to miss its interim reduction targets and its own legally-binding child poverty targets in 2030; urges the Scottish Government to heed the advice of its own expert advisors and take immediate and decisive action to reduce poverty across Scotland in the face of a decade of SNP inaction and failure, and welcomes the Labour Party’s plan to introduce a New Deal for Working People to deliver a real Living Wage, review Universal Credit and build a fairer social security system, tackle the cost of living crisis with a publicly owned clean energy company that would help to pay to keep bills down, paid for with a proper windfall tax on record oil and gas profits, deliver affordable public transport and housing support, end problem debt, and provide help and support for families and households across Scotland.”

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