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Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
The First Minister will note that our amendment recognises that there is, of course, a UK context to what we are debating today. Through policy interventions at a UK level, we must do everything that we can to eradicate child poverty. I remind the First Minister that that is w...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
05 Sep 2024
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
It would be useful to understand how that figure has been arrived at, because the Deputy First Minister had trouble articulating it this morning on “Good Morning Scotland”. It would also be useful if, in her summing up, the cabinet secretary could explain how the modelling has...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
As we have already heard, there is no issue that we debate in this chamber that is more important than the work to tackle child poverty; all parliamentarians desire to reduce the levels of child poverty. I heard what the First Minister said about the desire for consensus in ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
07 Jan 2025
Child Poverty
I will, Presiding Officer. Given that, clearly, Russell Findlay has some kind of idea that we, on this side of the chamber, should all be listening to about how to reduce child poverty, deal with the issues and invest in public services, perhaps Stephen Kerr and colleagues mi...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 Mar 2024
Addressing Child Poverty Through Parental Employment
It is a pleasure to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. I welcome the chance to highlight the report to Parliament and to highlight the important role that improved parental employability has to play in our fight against child poverty. Tackling poverty, and in parti...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
17 Jun 2025
Child Poverty
I thank the cabinet secretary for the advance sight of her statement, both at the usual time and in her morning press exclusives. There has been a lot of spin and, in the statement, there is a myriad of excuses, but the reality is that there is also failure. For all the rheto...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
My comments on the amendments in this group are in a similar vein to what I said at stage 2. For the benefit of members who did not participate in the stage 2 proceedings, I will reiterate some of the arguments that I brought up at that point.I understand why the arguments mad...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2023
Cost of Living and Child Poverty
I take this opportunity to welcome the cabinet secretary to her post. I wish her well in her new role and look forward to working constructively with her on our shared goal of making Scotland a better, fairer and more equitable society. I also take this opportunity to pay trib...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to take time to reflect on the debate that we have had this afternoon, which has helpfully shown the consensus on the bill, as well as pointed to some of the challenges that exist and the work that will need to be done at stage 2 and stage 3 to ensure that we have the b...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
05 Sep 2024
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
As always when we debate child poverty, I start by highlighting the consensus that—as we have already heard this afternoon—there is no more important mission or goal, and no more important subject that we debate in the chamber. The goal to eradicate child poverty, as the Gove...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
05 Sep 2024
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
The cabinet secretary and I debated issues around child poverty five or six times in the chamber pre-election, and each time that we did so, I made it clear that the financial decisions and ruinous policies of the Conservative Party have led to an exacerbation of poverty. That...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
05 Dec 2024
Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)
I am sure that the committee will look forward to having further discussion about that. I will move on to my substantive questions, which are about statistics and data in relation to the Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017, which colleagues will also want to cover. In the cabin...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Nov 2021
Social Security Benefits
I thank all the organisations that provided briefing material ahead of today’s debate. We have heard about the work of the Child Poverty Action Group in Scotland and the MS Society. The creation of Social Security Scotland is testament to the power of devolution, and we want ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Apr 2022
Low-income Families (Access to School Education)
Like the two previous speakers, I declare an interest, perhaps for the last time. I am a serving councillor in East Renfrewshire Council. I am pleased to contribute to the debate and begin by praising the excellent work of our schools and the many dedicated staff who work in ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
13 Jun 2023
Child Poverty
Although we should all welcome the new modelling that predicts that 90,000 fewer children are expected to live in poverty, it is deeply concerning to see that there is an upward trend in levels of persistent poverty across Scotland. That needs serious and focused action in ord...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
I would like to make some progress. The next Labour Government will fundamentally reform the universal credit system and introduce a child poverty strategy that will ensure that driving down child poverty runs through every aspect and policy area of Government, delivering a p...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
07 Feb 2024
Social Security (Investment)
I believe that Ms Forbes has participated in a number of social security debates in which we have had this interaction before. I am very clear that Labour wants to fundamentally reform the system, because universal credit does not work and it is not working for all parts of ou...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
I thank the cabinet secretary for advance sight of her statement. When Scottish Labour left office in 2007, we had brought down relative child poverty after housing costs, from 31 per cent to 24 per cent, and the previous UK Labour Government lifted 1 million children out of ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
05 Dec 2024
Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)
Thank you. With your indulgence, convener, I will start with a brief supplementary question to Marie McNair’s last line of questioning. The cabinet secretary touched on her policy announcement on the two-child limit. I am sure that the committee will have a chance to discuss t...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
07 Jan 2025
Child Poverty
Deputy Presiding Officer, I take this opportunity to wish you and colleagues across the chamber a happy new year. I begin, as I always do in such debates, by stating again that tackling child poverty should be a priority across the chamber and in all spheres of government and...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
07 Jan 2025
Child Poverty
If Mr Swinney allows me to make a little progress, I will allow him back in. The point that I was moving on to make is about the length of time that we have spent looking at the issues. The Government has set its motion in the context of the budget. For many months, the First...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
29 May 2025
Eradicating Child Poverty
Good morning. Cabinet secretary, when your party came to power, relative child poverty was at 23 per cent after housing costs were taken into account. Last year, as we have heard, the figure was 22 per cent, so there has been a 1 percentage point fall in 18 years. The Governme...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I have followed the stage 1 debate and, having rejoined the committee for stage 2 of the bill, I must echo concerns expressed previously about trying to have a debate of this magnitude and depth with only three months remaining in the parliamentary session. It is perhaps for t...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
15 Jun 2022
Health and Wellbeing of Children and Young People
As many argued during the debate, we should not be under any illusions that, in the face of the current cost of living crisis, there is not a huge challenge in terms of poverty and the issues that it is creating for children and young people across our country. In the evidenc...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2023
Government Priorities for Scotland
Hundreds of Scots are struggling more than ever, and they need this Government to focus on their priorities. Child poverty has remained at 24 per cent for the entire time that the SNP has been in government, and levels of severe child poverty have been rising. The First Minis...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2023
Cost of Living and Child Poverty
Mr Macpherson has pre-empted me. I was just about to come to some concrete solutions. I take the opportunity to say to Ben Macpherson that I thought he performed well in his role as minister for social security and that it is a sad fact that there is no longer a dedicated mini...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
01 Jun 2023
First Minister’s Question Time · Scottish Child Payment (Uptake)
New forecasts from the Scottish Fiscal Commission show a concerning gap between eligibility for, and uptake of, the Scottish child payment. It is projected that more than 60,000 families could miss out. That disparity is most pronounced among children between six and 15. It ha...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
Shirley-Anne Somerville said: “It’s not our policy to alleviate the two-child cap.” Perhaps that is a straight answer for Mr Doris’s constituents. I had more to say about debt. Aberlour Child Care Trust’s excellent briefing for the debate points to the vicious cycle of debt...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
14 Sep 2023
Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry
Good morning to the panel and to the minister. Thinking about the current childcare offer and the plans that were announced in relation to expansion, to what extent does the Government expect the childcare policy to reduce child poverty in time to meet the 2030 targets that w...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Oct 2023
Two-child Benefit Cap
Can the cabinet secretary explain to the chamber why, in April 2019, she said to The Times: “It’s not our policy to alleviate the two-child cap”? Indeed, she has not advocated the Government’s mitigating the two-child cap in taking the action that she has called us on.
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
04 Oct 2023
Two-child Benefit Cap
I have said that the policy is a pernicious policy. I am committed to—and the Labour Party is committed to—examining every part of the universal credit system to make sure that it works. If the cabinet secretary wants to roll her eyes and not listen to the fact that we need to...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
23 Apr 2024
Two-child Benefit Cap
Mr Balfour has heard me say before that the entire system is not working. That is why we must take a whole-system approach and look at all the facets and measures of universal credit. We will not take advice from a Tory Government that has, as I have outlined, pushed more and ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
23 May 2024
Scottish Child Payment
Good morning, panel. Following on from the earlier theme, I am interested in monitoring and evaluation. We have covered quite a lot of that already, but I would be particularly interested to hear the panel’s views on the Scottish Government’s modelling of the impact of the chi...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
30 May 2024
Scottish Child Payment
Good morning. We are particularly interested in understanding the effectiveness of the child payment in reducing poverty. The first broad question that I am keen to get the panel’s views on is what we know so far about the effectiveness of the child payment in lifting children...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour and to confirm that we will support the general principles of the bill at decision time. It is important that we acknowledge at the outset the principles of the bill, which are to improve people’s experiences of Soc...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
05 Sep 2024
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
I do not think that Bob Doris can characterise my comments as saying that the Scottish child payment was ineffective. Mr Doris has heard me in the chamber, as has the cabinet secretary, being supportive of the Scottish child payment. Indeed, the Labour Party supported its ince...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
10 Oct 2024
Challenge Poverty Week 2024
Ms Haughey and I have debated these issues many times, and she knows that I am committed to a review of universal credit that includes the two-child limit. That work has been set in the context of the child poverty task force, which the UK Government is taking forward. The Sec...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Dec 2024
Topical Question Time · Two-child Benefit Cap
I welcome the Scottish Government’s on-going positive engagement with the British-Irish Council, which is a very important body for promoting peace and stability across these islands. As a dual citizen, I take it extremely seriously, and I hope that all members take its work s...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
29 May 2025
Eradicating Child Poverty
On the Scottish Government’s policy on the two-child limit and the background work that has been done on that, we have had a lot of conversation this morning about the need to take decisions over a period of time. The two-child limit was brought in in 2017, and the Government’...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
29 May 2025
Eradicating Child Poverty
It is encouraging that the cabinet secretary continues to seek engagement on the UK child poverty strategy, which is important. I note her comments about the delay to the strategy’s publication, but she will recognise that Governments often have to take more time in order to u...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank Maggie Chapman for that intervention. I will certainly revisit the evidence that was taken, as I was not on the committee at that time. However, my understanding from my conversations about the amendments and the stage 2 process is that there is concern in the denomina...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Jun 2021
Historical Forced Adoption
Welcome to your new role, Deputy Presiding Officer. I thank my colleague Monica Lennon for securing this important debate. Monica’s motion and, indeed, her work on the issue over many years have enabled us all to give voice tonight to the painful experiences of so many in our...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
01 Dec 2021
Queen Elizabeth University Hospital (Patient Safety)
The gravity of this debate cannot be ignored. It is shocking that we have reached this point and that Scottish Labour has had to bring the motion to Parliament today. Surely all of us across the chamber must agree that no family should have to experience a battle to know what ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
26 Apr 2022
Low-income Families (Access to School Education)
I thank my regional colleague for that intervention. There is clearly concern about the pace at which the devices are being rolled out. Last year and during the lockdown period, it was fundamentally important that young people could get access to digital devices, so that they ...
The Deputy Convener Lab Committee
28 Jun 2022
Health Inequalities
It is good to hear that that meeting is taking place today and that progress on that work is being made, because the committee felt very strongly about that evidence. I want to ask about health inequalities that are driven by poverty. The committee heard evidence from many or...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
22 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to return to the point about the fragmentation of the social work profession. We have heard, and I hear, from social workers a real concern that, if we take social workers out of the local authority context, we will run the risk, particularly in children and family serv...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
25 May 2023
Child Poverty and Parental Employment
That was very helpful. We are particularly interested in the issue of employability and the extent to which the provision of 1,140 hours has taken people back into the workforce. We have some interim data on those going back to work, particularly on women—especially mothers—a...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
I thank Bob Doris for bringing the debate to the chamber. There are few issues as pressing and important as tackling child poverty, and it should be the focus of far more of our time in the chamber and far more of our collective energies in working on the solutions to tackle i...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
I will give way in a moment if Mr Doris will allow me to make a little more progress. The Parliament unanimously backed the Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017, which set legally binding targets to reduce the number of children experiencing the effects of poverty by 2030. In th...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2023
Child Poverty
I talk about fundamental reform of universal credit because that is what I believe in. However, unfunded spending commitments cannot be made, because working people will pay the price. Let me remind Mr Doris of the Scottish National Party’s position on the abolition of the tw...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
14 Sep 2023
Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry
I have a brief supplementary question on the uptake of the Scottish child payment. The cabinet secretary will recall that I asked the First Minister about the concern that 60,000 families might miss out on payments. He gave the guarantee that work was being undertaken to ensur...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
14 Sep 2023
Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry
I am interested in pulling together the various strands of our discussion to look at the cross-cutting nature of anti-poverty work across Government. How are you embedding those actions on child poverty across Government? I appreciate that that is a broad question, but it woul...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
04 Oct 2023
Two-child Benefit Cap
I am coming on to speak about why universal credit does not work and why it needs to be fundamentally reformed. We need to see wide-ranging change, because it is not helping people; it is failing people. The member is right in her assertion that those policies are failing peop...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
04 Oct 2023
Two-child Benefit Cap
I am not entirely sure what the cabinet secretary is driving at. Angela Rayner and Keir Starmer, in conjunction with the TUC, have endorsed the document. He will back to the letter the policy that the document outlines, which we will deliver when in government. I have no idea ...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Feb 2024
Social Security
This is now the fourth debate that we have had on social security in Government time in 12 months, but it differs from the previous debates because this latest debate from the Government is the clearest demonstration that ministers have their heads in the sand—or, perhaps more...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
14 Mar 2024
Addressing Child Poverty Through Parental Employment
As I have said already, I think that we need a floor of rights for workers and expectations on employers, and I think that we can do that at UK level with our new deal for working people. I am being expected to take a lecture on employment rights from a Scottish Government tha...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 Apr 2024
Two-child Benefit Cap
I am pleased to contribute to this evening’s debate. Clare Haughey’s motion provides Parliament with an opportunity to look back at social security across the UK, including here in Scotland, over the seven-year period. We know that those seven years have been part of a longer ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
30 May 2024
Scottish Child Payment
I return to the point about data. You have provided helpful qualitative evidence, and we heard some of that last week, too. However, the Joseph Rowntree Foundation has said that we cannot reach definitive conclusions because of a lack of data, despite the encouraging evidence ...
Paul O’Kane Lab Committee
30 May 2024
Scottish Child Payment
Other panel members may want to reflect on the point about data but, in the interest of time, we are also keen to understand the extent to which the Scottish child payment is impacting on deep and persistent poverty. Do we need to do more work on those specific families in ord...
Paul O’Kane Lab Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Child Poverty
Are those targets non-negotiable? Is the cabinet secretary still committed to meeting those child poverty targets?
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Meeting of the Parliament 11 June 2024

11 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Child Poverty

The First Minister will note that our amendment recognises that there is, of course, a UK context to what we are debating today. Through policy interventions at a UK level, we must do everything that we can to eradicate child poverty. I remind the First Minister that that is what the previous Labour Government did in this country through our interventions to reform the welfare state, ensure that child benefits were paid and ensure that there was a national minimum wage—I know that he was a member of the Westminster Parliament when that ground-breaking legislation was passed. All those measures from 1997 to 2010 are at the heart of what Labour Governments do, which is why we are so committed to reforming the social contract once again.

Before the First Minister’s intervention, I was making the point that in-work poverty is of huge concern to me and other Labour members. We must do more to support people who find themselves working in a job while feeling insecure, not being well paid, not having their rights at work protected and being reliant on food banks and food parcels, which is something that the First Minister rightly spoke about in his speech.

That is why we have set out quite clearly that we need a new deal for working people. We need to increase wages in order to provide a real living wage, ban the use of exploitative zero-hours contracts and end fire-and-rehire practices, alongside providing from day 1 other rights that are vital to ensuring that people can feel secure when going to work and can bring home a wage that will support them and lift children out of poverty. As I have said, that work will sit alongside action to fundamentally reform the universal credit system in order to make it work far better than it does currently.

It is clear that we need to reflect on all the efforts and interventions that are required to reduce child poverty. I ask the Scottish Government to reflect on what was said in the Poverty and Inequality Commission’s report and to consider its own decision making, which has created a number of challenges, not least in supporting people into work. I have raised in the chamber previously my concerns about reductions to the parental employability support fund, the removal of the parental transition fund and the slowed-down roll-out of the fair work agenda, given that we need to grow the support that is available.

I point to the cross-party work of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, which has looked at a number of important pilots and innovative pieces of work across Scotland on those issues. For example, I highlight the work of Fife Gingerbread—which will be known to the First Minister and the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice—to support employers and to support people back into work. Such organisations are vital, and we must do all that we can to support those sorts of interventions.

I call on the Government to look at what it can do to support more local initiatives at local authority level, because we must ensure that we work across all spheres of government. The First Minister spoke about the relationship between the UK Government and the Scottish Government, but we must also recognise the relationship between the Scottish Government and local government, given the particular challenges that have resulted from cuts to local government funding during the period in which the First Minister has been a member of the Government.

I will begin to draw my remarks to a conclusion. We all want action to reduce child poverty—there is a degree of consensus in the chamber about that. However, the Government must reflect on the fact that, in the 17 years in which it has been in power and has had the levers of power in Scotland, child poverty has sat at the same level—it is 24 per cent, which is the same as in 2007; indeed, on many measures it has gone up.

An incoming UK Labour Government will focus on ensuring that we make the changes that we have to make so that people who are in work do not experience the same levels of poverty, and to fundamentally reform the social contract in this country. That is clearly the action that we would take and would want to take. We will work constructively with any Government and anyone who shares that vision and ideal to ensure that we take significant action to reduce child poverty and take steps towards eradicating it, because that is the right thing to do.

I move, amendment S6M-13566.2, to leave out from first “eradicating” to end and insert:

“child poverty should be a national mission for the Scottish Government, but deeply regrets that after 17 years of a Scottish National Party (SNP) administration, child poverty levels, after housing costs, have remained static, and that the most recent child poverty single-year statistics estimate that the number of children in Scotland living in poverty has now increased in 2022-23 to 260,000; acknowledges that the Poverty and Inequality Commission’s Scrutiny Report, published last week, provided a damning assessment of the SNP administration’s progress on tackling child poverty across a number of areas, noting that progress from the Scottish Government 'is slow or not evident at all'; disagrees with the Scottish Government’s decisions to slash the affordable housing budget, freeze the Scottish Welfare Fund, abandon parental employability schemes and decimate the Fuel Insecurity Fund, all of which act as barriers to prevent more children in Scotland falling into poverty; recognises that SNP inaction has been coupled with 14 years of dire economic mismanagement under the UK Conservative administration, which has led to increased child poverty rates across the UK; condemns the fact that, despite professing to tackle child poverty under successive First Ministers, child poverty is increasing, and the Scottish Government is now set to miss its interim reduction targets and its own legally-binding child poverty targets in 2030; urges the Scottish Government to heed the advice of its own expert advisors and take immediate and decisive action to reduce poverty across Scotland in the face of a decade of SNP inaction and failure, and welcomes the Labour Party’s plan to introduce a New Deal for Working People to deliver a real Living Wage, review Universal Credit and build a fairer social security system, tackle the cost of living crisis with a publicly owned clean energy company that would help to pay to keep bills down, paid for with a proper windfall tax on record oil and gas profits, deliver affordable public transport and housing support, end problem debt, and provide help and support for families and households across Scotland.”

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