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Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
10 Sep 2024
Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I, too, thank the committee clerks for the incredible work that they do on our behalf. Scotland’s police officers are true heroes. They serve the public with great care, professionalism and integrity. Their shift patterns are tough on work-life balance and the hours are long,...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
08 Nov 2023
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25
David Kennedy of the Scottish Police Federation has described policing in Scotland as having been “asset stripped” over the past decade, with more than 140 police stations being closed and a reduction in the number of officers. We have heard similar concerns in the past from t...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
15 Nov 2023
Policing and Mental Health
There is another line in the report, on page 59, which really jumped out at me. It says: “Police Scotland does not yet have a clear purpose, vision or strategy for its continued provision of mental health-related policing services”. That begs the question: why on earth not, ...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
06 Oct 2021
Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23
Figures have been reported for how much the policing of COP26 is expected to cost. The most recent one that I have seen is £250 million, which was reported at some point last year. To put that into perspective, it equates to a fifth of the entire Scottish policing annual budge...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
10 Nov 2021
Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23
Going back to some of the points that Katy Clark raised, although I am mindful that this evidence session is on the budget, I note that there were predictions before COP26 that there could be up to 300 arrests per day. That has not transpired—the most recent figure that I have...
The Deputy Convener (Russell Findlay) Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Hello. Welcome to the 16th meeting in 2022 of the Criminal Justice Committee. Audrey Nicoll, our convener, joins us remotely. Jamie Greene is running slightly late and will be with us soon. Our first item of business is a round-table evidence session on policing and mental he...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
31 May 2022
Tackling Drug Deaths and Drug Harm
It is a robust policing approach that prevents a flow of drugs going into such communities, for the benefit of the people who live there. Given that the number of drug deaths in Scotland is, inexplicably, 3.5 times higher than that of the rest of the UK, it was obvious that t...
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
30 Nov 2022
Violence Against Women and Girls (Men’s Role in Eradication)
I begin by agreeing with the Scottish Government motion and with Pam Gosal’s amendment, which I am glad to hear Labour supports. Reem Alsalem is not merely, to quote the First Minister, “the person from the UN”—Official Report, 24 November 2022; c 20.— she is the special ra...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
30 Nov 2022
Violence Against Women and Girls (Men’s Role in Eradication)
I thank the minister for her intervention, and I am happy to condemn any form of male violence or attitudes that are contrary to what we are talking about. So, what can be done? Those women, and many good cops—and it is important to state clearly that the vast majority of cop...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
22 Feb 2023
Policing and Mental Health
I put on the record that His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in Scotland has just issued its terms of reference for a thematic review into policing mental health in Scotland, and it is due to publish that, according to its initial report, in July. Presumably, it is aski...
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
02 Mar 2023
Policing
If Keith Brown has never heard praise of policing from Jamie Greene or my colleagues, it is clear that he has not been listening. On the Scottish National Party’s watch, the health and careers of innocent whistleblowers have been destroyed, millions of pounds of compensation ...
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
07 Mar 2023
Women’s and Girls’ Safety (Public Transport)
Thank you. I am pleased to contribute to the debate as my party’s closing speaker, ahead of international women’s day, tomorrow. Be assured that my speech will not be as long as Graham Simpson’s blockbuster 11-minute opener. Presiding Officer, last week I saw a new TV advert ...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
26 Apr 2023
Policing and Mental Health
In the main, the responses that we have seen today are slightly disappointing and suggest a reluctance to be open and honest about the tragic suicide of police officers. I have raised the issue repeatedly in the chamber, in the committee and in writing. Every time that I do so...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
26 Apr 2023
Policing and Mental Health
The first time that I raised the issue was when we had a police witness in to talk about policing and mental health, and I asked how many officers had died from suicide. He said that he did not know and that he would get back to us with those numbers, but he did not do so—it t...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
21 Jun 2023
Policing and Mental Health
The letter is detailed and much of it is welcome, but I have noticed what is not in there. We have repeatedly raised the issue of officer suicide—with the usual caveat that suicide is a complex issue—and have said specifically that the complaints and discipline process appears...
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
08 Nov 2023
Business Motions
The Scottish Government has spent more than £80,000 on papers about breaking up the United Kingdom. It has just wasted more taxpayers’ money on publishing its latest instalment of propaganda, which it now wants to debate in Parliament. Even Humza Yousaf admits that those paper...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
29 May 2024
Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have a general question, now. We heard evidence about good police officers’ careers being destroyed and innocent members of the public being treated like criminals. Often, the original failing is not the most important issue; it is the subsequent process that people experien...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
11 Sep 2024
Policing and Mental Health
To come back to that point, it is not just a delay from September to March—it has been a delay of more than 10 years. We have the only police force in the United Kingdom without body-worn cameras. At some point, somebody from the police put a figure of £25 million on the cost...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
11 Sep 2024
Policing and Mental Health
On the basis of the financial situation that we are in, can Glasgow or Scottish policing afford the Commonwealth games?
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
22 Jun 2021
Interests
As a journalist, I reported extensively on policing and organised crime. I am also married to a police officer.
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Sep 2021
Deaths of John Yuill and Lamara Bell
Tens of millions of pounds in compensation for the Crown Office’s malicious prosecution scandal will not come from its operational budget. Ministers have promised that those payouts will come from other public funds. It is reported that Police Scotland may face similar claims ...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
02 Feb 2022
Reducing Drug Deaths in Scotland and Tackling Problem Drug Use
Yesterday, Kit Malthouse spoke passionately about the need to support people with drug problems and the vital role of the criminal justice system. For example, he spoke about a “ring of steel” being put around the community of Blackpool, as part of the addiction, diversion, di...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
16 Mar 2022
Substance Use in the Justice System
The inclusion of that line is reason enough for my party to be unable to support the Government’s motion and Labour’s amendment. I previously pointed out that there is no mention of organised crime in the cabinet secretary’s “The Vision for Justice in Scotland”. It is a subje...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
16 Mar 2022
Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
From the policing perspective, is there a concern that licensing measures will create a bigger black market?
Russell Findlay Con Committee
21 Mar 2022
Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I suppose that this question leads on from that. I am perhaps jumping slightly ahead in our running order. For trading standards services in all 32 local authorities, there will be a cost attached to policing this. You have specified that it might involve working on public hol...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
21 Mar 2022
Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My question leads into the next area in the running order, which is firework control zones. The question is primarily for Chief Inspector Robison. Earlier in the consultation process, it was proposed that there would be no-firework zones, which have evolved into firework contr...
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
17 May 2022
Topical Question Time · Police Scotland (Compensation Payments)
I have been investigating Scotland’s police complaints system for years. It is broken and unjust, with taxpayers’ money being used to crush and silence officers and the public. Police Scotland tried to buy Rhona Malone’s silence with a non-disclosure agreement. Other officers ...
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Okay—thank you. I am asking about that because, a couple of years ago, I made inquiries to that effect. At that point, it did not appear to be something that anyone was keeping record of. Furthermore, none of those who had died by suicide was subject to a fatal accident inquir...
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Okay. Might the Scottish Police Federation know something about that?
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
I was aware of a cluster not so long ago. I was speaking to a former police officer who is a friend of two officers who took their own lives in quick succession. One did so in a police station. The former police officer believes that the protracted nature of the complaints pro...
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service is not here to explain why it is choosing not to do FAIs. Would you support FAIs?
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Before we move on, I ask Mr Evans whether the SPA has any data on, or has conducted any form of investigation into, suicide among police officers.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Thank you very much. The next question comes from Fulton MacGregor.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
I think that Audrey Nicoll may have a question for us online.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
That picture comes through loud and clear in those 20 submissions. Mr Staff, I wonder whether you might have a different perspective on that issue.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Superintendent MacInnes, you deal with custody cases and manage officers every day. What impact does dealing with patients have on officers losing hours?
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
We move on to a question from Jamie Greene.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Thank you. I think that Mr Evans is keen to come in on this.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
I failed to say at the outset of the meeting that witnesses and members should try to keep questions and answers as brief as possible. We have a lot to get through. I call Pauline McNeill.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
I know that we need to move on, but what you have said really chimes. We have talked about the issue for 20 years, and we know that there is a solution. If the pilot schemes lead to nothing, I do not know whether it will be for the police to be a bit more forthright in respect...
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
I think that Martyn Evans would like to come in on that. We do not have a lot of time, so please keep your answer brief.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Speaking of the SPF, I see that David Hamilton wants to come in on that issue.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Thank you very much. Collette Stevenson would like to ask some questions.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
We have four and a half minutes left. I will bring in Jamie Greene. Over to you, Jamie.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
The other witnesses can respond very briefly.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
Thank you. We will finish with David Hamilton and then Inga Heyman.
The Deputy Convener Con Committee
18 May 2022
Policing and Mental Health
As ever, we have barely touched the sides, and there is much more that we could have gone into, but I appreciate everyone’s time today. If there are any issues that you need to follow up, I ask you to do so in writing, please. I thank you all for your time. 10:51 Meeting susp...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
31 May 2022
Tackling Drug Deaths and Drug Harm
Thank you. Yes, I was aware of that. That is the first suggestion that I have heard from Angela Constance that this was merely a branding exercise, which I think will come as news to the UK policing minister, too. This episode raises concerns that, despite Scottish Governmen...
Russell Findlay Con Chamber
16 Jun 2022
Portfolio Question Time · Census 2022
I sincerely thank the cabinet secretary, who is a very important MSP indeed, for providing a humble member such as me with that answer. With trains, ferries, Rangers prosecutions, trams, Prestwick, Burntisland Fabrications, national health service disasters, policing scandal...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
15 Jun 2022
Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice
One bit of information in a briefing that we received suggests that the Scottish Government was seeking that biometric data held by UK policing organisations, such as the British Transport Police, the Ministry of Defence Police and the NCA, should come within the remit of the ...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
15 Jun 2022
Scottish Biometrics Commissioner: Draft Code of Practice
I will be brief. My question has two parts and is very specific. Jamie Greene touched on local authorities that have the capacity to use facial recognition technology but are not yet using it, and he talked about the fact that the technology is changing rapidly—day by day and ...
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
22 Jun 2022
Police Numbers and New Pension Arrangements
When I read the Police Scotland letter from David Page, a paragraph jumped out at me and I underlined it. In relation to what it is fair to describe as an exodus of police officers, some of them with a great number of years of experience, he says that “there is no impact to s...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
07 Sep 2022
Correspondence
I know that this is primarily about pensions but other issues are referred to. David Page mentions—this is near the top of his letter—the importance of being mindful of police officers’ physical, emotional and mental wellbeing. We have heard evidence of suicides among police o...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
26 Oct 2022
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24
Normally, as a committee, we try to avoid party-political issues, but I think it important to get on the record a response to the points that were made by Fulton MacGregor. The Scottish Government makes decisions about how it spends money. It is in receipt of a record £41 bill...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
07 Dec 2022
Policing and Mental Health
I put on the record my appreciation for the officers who spoke to us. Some of the accounts were truly harrowing and they really brought home the nature of what the police do day in, day out on our behalf. I have long had concerns about the response from Police Scotland and th...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
07 Dec 2022
Policing and Mental Health
I would like to come back in briefly to touch on what I said before and to put it into some context. The exchange in committee in which I asked about officer suicide numbers was on 18 May. The later exchange was on 7 September, when I quoted from a letter from the SPA to the c...
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
02 Feb 2023
Male Suicide in Scotland
I commend Jim Fairlie on his moving speech and his important campaign on the subject. Police officers are Scotland’s everyday heroes. They deal with people who are dangerous and who abuse them, threaten them, spit at them and attack them. They deal with people who are vulnera...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
22 Feb 2023
Policing and Mental Health
I absolutely welcome the fact that this issue is being talked about. However, the Scottish Police Federation makes some quite worrying points about the position of Police Scotland, which it describes as “defensive, in denial and suggests ‘nothing to see here’.” That chimes w...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
22 Feb 2023
Policing and Mental Health
I have a quick question on paragraph 16, to which Jamie Greene and Rona Mackay both referred. There is perhaps a more fundamental issue about the creation of Police Scotland, which is coming up to its 10th birthday. The short history of both the SPA and Police Scotland has bee...
Russell Findlay Con Committee
22 Feb 2023
Policing and Mental Health
In the letter that we send, could we perhaps ask for some more data? When we had a police witness before us, we asked about the number of officer suicides. He said that he would come back to us, but he has not done so. We have since corresponded with the police, but they have ...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 10 September 2024

10 Sep 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

I, too, thank the committee clerks for the incredible work that they do on our behalf.

Scotland’s police officers are true heroes. They serve the public with great care, professionalism and integrity. Their shift patterns are tough on work-life balance and the hours are long, and their job is often dangerous and thankless. I was pleased to attend last year’s Scottish Police Federation awards, which showcased officers’ life-saving bravery and commitment to their communities. Yesterday, we were able to remember and recognise that ethos of selfless duty on emergency services day, which is supported by His Majesty the King.

Shockingly—I make no apologies for raising this issue again today—officers in Scotland are still not protected by body-worn cameras. For years, body-worn cameras have been standard kit across the rest of the UK, and they are proven to prevent vexatious complaints against officers.

I will begin my stage 1 speech by explaining why Scotland’s police officers—and the public—expect and deserve a fair, efficient and effective system of regulation and complaints. I will end it by asking whether the bill will do the job that it is supposed to do. Will it provide remedy to those who have been wronged? With immense pressure on policing budgets, is it affordable?

Police Scotland was created 11 years ago, in 2013. The surrounding landscape of regulation and complaints is complex and confusing. Frankly, it just does not work. The Scottish Police Authority is supposed to hold Police Scotland to account on behalf of the public, but too often, it does not do so.

The Police Investigations and Review Commissioner investigates the misconduct of officers above senior rank, not the rank and file, which means that the vast majority of allegations that are made against officers are handled by the police. Things are kept in house.

As an MSP, and before that as a journalist, I have represented those who have been wronged by way of negligence, misconduct or even criminality. Some of those people gave up their time to give evidence to our committee and I thank them for doing so. Those people are often deprived of natural justice. The complexity of the process is daunting and secretive. Too often, cases drag on for far too long.

There have been shocking cases in which Police Scotland has watered down serious allegations of criminal acts, including an alleged rape, by recording them as “incivility”. On other occasions, Police Scotland failed in its duty to report to the Crown Office criminal allegations made against officers.

If complainers get as far as the PIRC, they often discover that the police watchdog is pretty toothless. Stephanie Bonner was one of those who gave up her time to give evidence to the committee, and I again thank her personally for doing so. Following the unexplained death of her teenage son Rhys, Stephanie’s pain was compounded by her dealings with the police. She described the process as a “hellish merry-go-round”.

I do not know, but perhaps some in the policing establishment believe that a process that helps to get rid of what they see as troublesome complaints is a good thing. I disagree. The reality is that an unfair system only fuels injustice and risks harming all officers by eroding public trust and confidence. If lost, that will be hard to repair.

The broken system fails officers just as badly as it fails members of the public. As a politician and as a journalist, I have represented police whistleblowers who tried to report wrongdoing, only to then become targets. The full power of Police Scotland was weaponised against them and used to tie them up in knots, ostracise them, silence them and crush them. Many of those officers are female. They made a brave stand against sexist bullying long before two successive chief constables held up their hands and admitted to institutionalised discrimination.

In a few cases, the officers emerged with some compensation and an apology. In others, the misery has continued. It is an absolute scandal that so many good officers have had their careers, health and finances so needlessly destroyed. I know of one officer who took his own life after becoming trapped in the complaints process. His family and colleagues believe that that was a contributory factor in his suicide.

Against that backdrop, the Government finally took action, in 2018, by asking the former Lord Advocate Lady Elish Angiolini to investigate. Her final report, which was published in November 2020, is truly damning. For me, one of her many critical words that stood out is “inaccessible”. It is not a harsh word, but it helpfully encapsulates the near impossibility of the task for those seeking justice and redress. I refer back to my earlier observation about a system that deters and deflects valid complaints. The short-term gain of a difficult issue disappearing potentially yields the greater long-term harm of increased public mistrust.

Lady Elish Angiolini made 111 recommendations, some of which require legislation, which is why the bill is in front of us. It is welcome that many of her non-legislative recommendations have been enacted. Just as encouraging is the ready acceptance of them by Scotland’s policing establishment. In recent years, I have also detected a willingness to change the policing culture from within, because a changed culture might achieve more, or as much, as a code of ethics and the duty of candour in the bill.

We like parts of the bill, such as the measures to increase transparency, with some serious misconduct hearings being held in public and investigations continuing in the event of officers leaving their posts. However, it would take longer than the 10 minutes that I have for my speech to properly set out some of our concerns about the bill.

The Criminal Justice Committee detailed its concerns in our lengthy stage 1 report, to which members can refer. I am certain that many of today’s speakers will raise the most pressing issues in greater detail, but one of them relates to the cost of the bill. The initial financial memorandum stated that the cost would be just over £1.4 million. That price tag has rocketed to £5.8 million and, as we all know, that number is likely to go in only one direction. It was alarming to hear the Scottish Police Federation tell the committee that it thought that the total cost could rise by as much as tenfold.

It is also deeply concerning that the Parliament’s Finance and Public Administration Committee said that the Government had provided figures that it knew were “completely inaccurate”. Our party expects full clarity on the cost. We did not formally include that as a condition of supporting the bill at stage 1, but it can be taken as read that we will not be writing a blank cheque.

Since the Criminal Justice Committee’s stage 1 report was published, we have received responses from various policing bodies. Those responses are, of course, welcome, and they are not without their own concerns. For example, the PIRC has provided a 20-page response that contains various points, including concerns about its role and responsibilities if the bill is passed unchanged. One of the main Angiolini recommendations was to give the PIRC greater powers and to make it answerable to the Parliament instead of ministers. The Government does not seem to be keen on that proposal, but my party intends to explore it further.

I welcome the proposed amendments that the cabinet secretary mentioned, and we will examine them fully in due course. My colleagues and I intend to lodge various amendments of our own. Those are a work in progress and will be for another day.

Although we support the bill at stage 1, this is very much unfinished business. Scotland’s brave and dedicated police officers and those who rely on them know that we have to get this right. A modern, transparent, speedy and fair system is the prize.

15:05  

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