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Pam Duncan-Glancy Ind Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I was about to say that social workers have contacted us ahead of today’s debate to say that they are deeply worried about the bill as it stands, including, specifically, the amendments that were agreed to at stage 2.I and colleagues around the chamber—including, I am sure, my...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
06 Nov 2024
Keeping the Promise
I am pleased to close today’s debate on the Promise on behalf of the Scottish Labour Party. We have heard from colleagues today, including the minister, Rona Mackay, Foysol Choudhury and, as Martin Whitfield has reminded us, from care-experienced young people, why this debate ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
13 May 2025
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As the Scottish Parliament’s first permanent wheelchair user, I ask colleagues to vote against the bill today and to stand up for disabled people and others who, like me, are deeply worried about the consequences of legalising assisted suicide. Many members have doubts about t...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
28 Jan 2025
Investing in Public Services Through the Scottish Budget
I welcome the opportunity to discuss the importance of investing in public services. My involvement in politics was motivated by a belief in public service, including: education, which levelled the playing field for me; social care, which ensured that I could lead an ordinary ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Nov 2021
Long Covid
It is a privilege to speak in the debate. I echo colleagues in thanking Alex Cole-Hamilton for bringing such an important issue to the chamber. With 75,000 people in Scotland thought to be living with the lasting effects of Covid-19 and that number only rising, the urgency of...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
07 Jun 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. Could you characterise for us the experience of trans people living in prison? I appreciate that the numbers are very small. Can you describe their experience and the experience of other women who are sharing the prison estate with trans people? How is that going so...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill
I will open my remarks by paying tribute to all the people with whom we have engaged throughout the process. I thank them and our committee clerks and Parliament staff, who have supported us, as well as the cleaners, catering and security staff, who have put in quite the shift...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Oct 2024
Challenge Poverty Week 2024
I thank Paul O’Kane for securing this debate in such a significant and important week. I thank the many organisations across Scotland, especially the Poverty Alliance, which we have heard is here today, for such a successful challenge poverty week 2024, for getting organisatio...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
30 Apr 2025
Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
This group of amendments is about making the strategic advisory council a credible, independent and inclusive voice in the governance of Scotland’s qualifications system. We in the committee have rehearsed that and, in the interests of time, I will not go into detail. However,...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 Jun 2025
National Advisory Council on Women and Girls Equality Recommendations
As members have highlighted, there are still too many barriers for women and girls in society, so when progress is made, it is important to celebrate that. Progress is not inevitable. It takes bravery, and it requires us to persuade people who disagree with us and to take them...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2025
Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Inspection earns credibility when it reflects the real world of education—its strategic priorities, its diverse learners and the people who teach and support them every day. The amendments in the group would embed those perspectives in the chief inspector’s statutory duty. Am...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
19 Nov 2025
Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I do not think that my amendment 28 would destroy the purpose of the bill; it is certainly not my intention for that to be the case. The principle of voluntarism is inherent in the bill, which is about the ability to access outdoor education. Evidence that the committee took s...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
07 Sep 2021
Petition
I am interested in hearing more about the survey that you have just mentioned. Do you have any data on the experience of disabled people in conversion therapy? My question is similar to the one that Maggie Chapman asked about neurodiverse people, but, although that question fo...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
02 Nov 2021
Proposed Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill
I thank you for your question and for sharing that you have experience of transitions. It is incredibly important to do so. Sometimes, we assume many things about who disabled people are and who has experience of disability, so it is important to say it out loud. I thank you f...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Nov 2021
Violence against Women
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of interests: I am a previous board member of Engender Scotland and a current member of the GMB. I thank the cabinet secretary for bringing this important motion to Parliament today and I pay tribute to all the women and g...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 Mar 2022
International Women’s Day 2022
It is a great privilege to open the debate for Scottish Labour. If someone had asked me, just over a year ago, whether I thought that I would be doing this, I would probably have said no, partly because I have massive impostor syndrome in all circumstances—as many women do—but...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
28 Apr 2022
Low Income and Debt Inquiry
I do, thank you. I share Lawrie Morgan-Klein’s view that the committee should consider speaking to creditors and, for the record, I think that it would also be worth speaking to energy companies. My final area of questioning is for Susie Fitton. Hi, Susie; it is nice to see y...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 May 2022
Alcohol Services (LGBTQ+ People)
I am proud to speak in this important debate. I thank Emma Roddick for bringing it to the chamber and for her characteristically outstanding speech. I welcome the report by researchers at Glasgow Caledonian University and thank those involved for carrying out such important w...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
24 May 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do. My questions are on the international experience, some of which Bruce Adamson has already shared. Can you set out briefly your understanding of how self-declaration has worked in other countries and what the impact has been—positive or negative—on the rights of young peo...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
14 Jun 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to reflect briefly on Naomi Cunningham’s point about women wondering whether there is a toilet that they can access safely. Let me say that, as a disabled woman, I experience that, and it is horrible to worry about whether you will be able to access a toilet. We need to...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
07 Sep 2022
Institutional Racism in Sport
I congratulate Kaukab Stewart on securing this important debate and thank members for their excellent speeches. The report has shocked not just Scottish cricket but the wider sporting community and people across Scotland—not just because of its clear and undeniable conclusion...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
27 Oct 2022
Scottish Covid-19 Inquiry Chair
The Deputy First Minister will be aware that Scottish Labour, Amnesty International and other civil society organisations pressed for a human rights-based Covid inquiry. As per their letter, we and they were concerned that the terms of reference relied on the chair’s professio...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Nov 2022
Chronic Pain Services
Musculoskeletal conditions and chronic pain are among the most common long-standing illnesses in Scotland. More than 29 per cent of the population, or 1.5 million people, have such a condition—myself included. Before I say anything else, I therefore put on the record my sincer...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Committee
17 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, panel. Thank you for the submissions that you gave us in advance and for answering our questions so far. We have already touched on this, but I am keen to hear a bit more about the experience of your members just now. What things do they feel need to be addresse...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 Nov 2022
International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women
I thank Pam Gosal for securing the debate. As we approach the international day for the elimination of violence against women 2022, it is a sad reality that gendered violence is still widespread. In Scotland, as we have already heard in the chamber today, one in three women wi...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
09 Mar 2023
Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Is there anything in particular that you can share with the committee about your experience as a regulator and about charities’ experience in England and Wales of changes such as automatic disqualification? I know that members will come to questions on that issue later, but is...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 Nov 2023
Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. “Thank God for that; now I can be your mum again.” Those were my mum’s words when we heard that my transition to adulthood had—at last—been agreed. After a lifetime of fighting, wading through swathes of policy and papers that would put a...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Nov 2024
Women’s Health Plan 2021 to 2024
I thank the Government for bringing forward this debate on such an important issue. Although I welcome the fact that some progress has been made on the women’s health plan, as the minister and others have set out, and that the Government is looking forward to the next steps, I...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
03 Dec 2024
Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill
I remind members that I am in receipt of the higher rate of adult disability payment. It is a pleasure to speak in this debate on behalf of Scottish Labour, particularly because the issue is close to my heart. I spent many years before I got to Parliament, and in my role as a...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
25 Feb 2025
Budget (Scotland) (No 4) Bill
My party and I will not stand in the way of £5.2 billion extra for public services across Scotland, but nor will we endorse the Government’s failing agenda. The parents of pupils with additional support needs are left fighting day and night for the support that they need, wit...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
30 Apr 2025
Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I take the cabinet secretary’s point, but if we do not do it here, how else can we ensure that people who are not covered by the UNCRC get the same experience from the educational institutions that are delivering to people who are covered by the UNCRC? How can we ensure parity...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Jun 2025
Celebrating 50 Years of Summerston
I thank Bob Doris, who is one of my colleagues from the Glasgow area, for bringing the motion to the chamber. It is my honour and privilege to be a member of the Scottish Parliament for the Glasgow region and, in particular, to represent the area that we are discussing today, ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
24 Jun 2025
Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 255 seeks to supply a bill-wide definition of equal opportunities that mirrors the protected characteristics that are listed in the Equality Act 2010 and adds to the list socioeconomic disadvantage and care experience, which evidence tells us still shape success in e...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
24 Jun 2025
Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the cabinet secretary for working with me and my team on the purpose of inspection. We got to the place where we should be. However, Mr Kerr’s amendment 18 highlights a lot of the issues that we see in classrooms today and which teachers, pupils, parents and others ar...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2025
Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I support many of the amendments in the group, not least some of the amendments that Stephen Kerr referred to. Teacher input to the inspectorate will be incredibly important. We have seen through various reports and experiences that there has not always been enough teacher inp...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
10 Sep 2025
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning. I thank the witnesses for the evidence that they submitted in advance of the meeting and the questions that they have answered so far. I will ask about the parts of the bill that are specifically on aftercare, but, before I do so, I will pick up on a couple of is...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
10 Sep 2025
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I brought—or tried to bring—a bill to Parliament on transitions, as they are a key aspect of people’s lives, and one of the things that I found, not just through my own personal experience but through the evidence that I gathered, was that people tend to have to be project man...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
05 Nov 2025
Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We do not have much time on the matter. Stakeholders and people with lived care experience would probably have thought that the Government would have done that in advance, given that the Government made a lot of the UNCRC. What specific drafting routes are you looking at to br...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
11 Nov 2025
Secondary Breast Cancer
I thank the member for that intervention, and it is all too real for people to hear that this issue comes down to money. I acknowledge that there are some drugs available in Scotland that are not available elsewhere. Nonetheless, it is still the case that women in Scotland rea...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
26 Nov 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am looking at the wording of amendment 66. It says, specifically, that a fundable body should “take reasonable steps to inform and consult the persons mentioned in subsection (2) before implementing any decision that could significantly impact” provision for learners, leve...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 206 requires the SFC to carry out a review of the act. It states that the review should include the experience of learners of access to information and support in relation to different learner options; the experience of employers who provide work-based learning; the ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
04 Nov 2025
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
It will come as no surprise to anyone, nor will it make any front page, that I do not support the legislation. People know that. However, I want to use this opportunity to raise some of the concerns that have been raised by disabled people and others, and to seek to strengthen...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Ind) Ind Chamber
05 Mar 2026
Disabled People’s Representation in Scottish Democracy
I welcome the opportunity to speak in this important debate and I thank my colleague Jeremy Balfour for bringing the matter to the chamber. His commitment to disability rights has meant that he has kept it on the agenda, and I hope that he is able to continue to do that in her...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 Jun 2021
Tackling Poverty and Building a Fairer Scotland
It is a great privilege to open the debate for Scottish Labour. I welcome the cabinet secretary to her new role and look forward to working with her and the Government. In Scotland today, 1 million people live in poverty. We are set to miss the child poverty targets that we s...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Jun 2021
Coronavirus (Extension and Expiry) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I put on the record my thanks to the NHS staff, social care staff, and other care workers across the country for the essential work that they have done during the past year to get us all through the pandemic. I think that I have been drinking the brave juice today, so before ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
07 Sep 2021
Programme for Government 2021-22
Yes, there are actions in the programme that will reduce costs, but none of them alone will do enough—and even all of them together will not do enough—to reach the target of reducing the child poverty rate to 18 per cent in the time that we have. Also, 18 per cent of children ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
16 Sep 2021
Fairer and More Equal Society
I recognise that. However, 125,000 children who should get the under-16 payments are not getting those bridging payments because they are paid only to people who get free school meals. There are 125,00 children out there who should be getting the money but are not getting it. ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
05 Oct 2021
Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23
The disability benefits will be key. You will be aware of the report on the experience of poverty in Scotland that the Joseph Rowntree Foundation published yesterday. It tells us that 100,000 of the families that are living in poverty have a disabled person in them. Therefore,...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Nov 2021
Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones
I thank my colleague Gillian Mackay for bringing the motion to the Parliament and Back Off Scotland for the work that it does to protect women from harassment. I also put on record my solidarity with, and support for, all women who have experienced targeted harassment outside...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Chamber
04 Nov 2021
Social Security Benefits
To be honest, I was expecting more from both Governments, but I definitely expected the new PIP to be far more radical than what I have seen. We need to move quickly on that, because the poverty that unpaid carers and disabled people are facing is urgent—we need to take action...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
02 Nov 2021
Proposed Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill
You are right that it is incredibly important that we listen to people with lived experience. As a number of the previous consultation responses highlighted, legislation is key, but it is not the only part of the issue. It is therefore important that we keep talking to people ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
02 Nov 2021
Proposed Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill
I take a lot of comfort from the fact that the bill was drafted with the support of the user-led organisations Inclusion Scotland and Camphill Scotland, which literally put pen to paper. I am confident that the views of the people who we listened to during the consultation are...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
04 Nov 2021
Homelessness and Rough Sleeping (Session 6 Priorities)
I will continue the theme of equalities and ask about disabled people who present as homeless. In the interests of time, I will put these questions to Lorraine and Gordon in particular. Will you briefly explain the experience of disabled people who apply through the homelessne...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Committee
25 Nov 2021
Proposed Fuel Poverty Strategy
I have a number of questions specifically around supporting groups that are most likely to experience fuel poverty, including disabled people and people in various regions of Scotland, such as rural regions, and what the fuel poverty strategy says on that. I am keen to hear mo...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
02 Dec 2021
Covid-19: Preparing for Winter and Priorities for Recovery
On Monday, the First Minister addressed the country and offered new advice on Covid-19. Once again, we are at a significant moment in the pandemic. In that update, the First Minister announced that the first cases of the new omicron variant had been detected here in Scotland, ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Committee
07 Dec 2021
Women’s Unfair Responsibility for Unpaid Care and Domestic Work
It is important that we get right under the skin of the issue not only because what you have said about the UN’s warning about women’s equality, but because of the impact that the situation is having on women, as we all see in our constituencies every day. We need to get ahead...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
09 Dec 2021
Third Sector Recovery
My next question is for Ian Bruce. Could you tell us a little bit about the experience of your organisation in delivering for the people and organisations that you represent, specifically around the employment of people in your organisations? Have you seen any need across Glas...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
09 Dec 2021
Third Sector Recovery
I have one additional question. We heard earlier about some of the disadvantages that people experience in volunteering and that the number of disabled people who have volunteered is of concern. Can you tell us anything about those figures? Do you have experiences that you can...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
13 Jan 2022
Holistic Family Support
I congratulate my colleague Martin Whitfield on securing the debate. No two families are the same, but under the UNCRC, every child has the same right to tailored family support. Disabled children are entitled to the exact same rights and fundamental freedoms as non-disabled ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab Committee
27 Jan 2022
Subordinate Legislation
Too many disabled people are in poverty. Thousands have spent blood, sweat and tears trying to get the support that they need to live their lives, only to be told that they do not qualify for it or that it is being cut. The regulations in front of us could have changed that. ...
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Meeting of the Parliament 10 March 2026 [Draft]

10 Mar 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

I was about to say that social workers have contacted us ahead of today’s debate to say that they are deeply worried about the bill as it stands, including, specifically, the amendments that were agreed to at stage 2.

I and colleagues around the chamber—including, I am sure, my colleague Paul O’Kane—believe that we must listen to social workers. They are often asked to protect people. To do so against the background of legally ending someone’s life would be a big ask, and we should listen to them when they raise concerns.

Despite being a group of people who have contact with the state more often than many others, disabled people, and especially disabled women, are still more likely to experience domestic violence and abuse than others. In fact, they are twice as likely as non-disabled women to experience abuse. They are also more likely than non-disabled people to experience abuse from an adult family member. One in 10 domestic violence abuse cases is perpetrated by someone with a caring responsibility.

I am talking about some of the most regulated people in society. I say this not flippantly, but as an example: it is difficult for a disabled person to even get on a train without having to give their full name and phone number for staff to check whether they have booked assistance. This is a group of people who have a lot of contact with a lot of professionals in their lives, yet abuse and coercion towards them still go undetected. That goes to the heart of what members across the chamber, and in particular my colleague Paul O’Kane, have spoken of in relation to social workers’ concerns about the bill.

There is another angle of risk to highlight. When structural inequalities and dependency are present, as they often are for people at the end of their lives—or, for some, throughout their lives—no safeguards can fight the tide of internalised coercion or ableism. Such coercion is subtle, but it is deeply internalised and extremely difficult to detect.

There are many amendments on coercion, financial abuse, encouragement to choose assisted suicide et cetera that seek to remove the possibility of improper motives influencing the process. The reality is that disabled people’s experience is so deeply oppressed that seeking to remove those things simply by amending one bill is unrealistic. It would take sweeping change across all areas of public policy and all areas of life to protect disabled people from the internalised everyday ableism that they experience.

The subtle pressure faced by disabled people and those who live with dependency or live differently from others stems from cultural attitudes. We know that when it comes to people experiencing ill health, disabled people or people who have lost function in some way, those attitudes are not yet what we would all hope them to be.

I see these things every day. It is hard to believe that your way of life is acceptable when so many people tell you that it is not; that changes to make something accessible to you are too expensive; that there are not enough care funds to go around, so you should have lower expectations of the life that you want to live; or that surely a woman in your condition will not want a family. Those are the very real beliefs that many disabled people face every single day.

We saw that at its extreme during the Covid pandemic, when the lives of many groups of people were considered to be of less value and “Do not resuscitate” orders were placed on them without their consent. At that time, my husband and I were so scared of the value that society placed on our lives that we wrote to each other to say that we wanted to be resuscitated.

These fears are real. As I have said, even in a highly regulated environment, disabled people's experience of coercion and abuse goes undetected. We cannot detect it now, and we would be unlikely to detect it afterwards if the bill were to pass. If you are told every day that your life is of less value, you learn to believe it. When everything in this world says that you do not belong, you learn to believe it. You internalise it, just as many people internalise the negative attitudes that people have towards them.

For many reasons, people mask such feelings—the feelings of inadequacy and shame that they have come to believe. They can be impossible to detect, and people often do not tell you about them. Some people do not even detect such feelings in themselves until they see others living well.

Many people in Scotland have no choice or autonomy in their own lives. Some disabled people do not get to choose who enters their home to care for them, who helps them to put their clothes on and take them off, or what they have for their dinner. The absence of choice in all other aspects of life could make assisted dying attractive; indeed, it could be the only choice that some people have.

The everyday ableism, and the constant barriers that accumulate and can make life intolerable, can encourage—and, indeed, coerce—people to end their lives. We have seen it happen in other jurisdictions, and we have to protect against it. However, simply asking someone to say that they are exercising choice and autonomy is not protecting against it, and neither is asking a professional to make that judgment. Not only is that difficult, as we have heard members across the chamber say, but many people do not have the skills, or the time, to do it. It would also be asking a lot for health professionals to have the necessary understanding of the deep-seated inequality that every single disabled person faces, and the everyday ableism that they experience, to the extent necessary for those professionals to be assured that the person is acting with autonomy, within the terms of a bill such as this, and in making such a decision.

Taken together, the amendments in the group reflect a genuine effort to strengthen safeguards against coercion. I recognise that. However, they cannot resolve the deeper challenge that, when societal pressures, unmet care needs and personal vulnerability intersect, it becomes extremely difficult to be certain that a decision has been made entirely free from influence. For that reason, I remain deeply concerned that no set of procedural safeguards could fully eliminate the risk of coercion under legislation of this kind.

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Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
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Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
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Martin Whitfield Lab
From a personal point of view, these amendments are swings and roundabouts. Having listened to Pam Duncan-Glancy’s powerful speech, my question to her is thi...
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Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
I listened carefully to Daniel Johnson when he spoke to his amendments. There is concern that they expand rather than restrict the definition of those who wo...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
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Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
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Neil Gray SNP
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Jamie Hepburn SNP
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The Presiding Officer NPA
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Neil Gray SNP
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Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
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Neil Gray SNP
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Liam McArthur LD
I start by echoing Pam Duncan-Glancy’s comments about the way in which colleagues across the board, irrespective of their position on the bill, have engaged ...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I ask the member to reflect on the evidence from the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow, which has talked about the subjectivity of diagnosi...
Liam McArthur LD
The assumption that the fact that somebody is going through the process after having made a request means that they would then inevitably and automatically s...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I thank everyone who has contributed to the debate. We all face a fundamental conundrum. We are being asked to ponder legislation in which the key definition...
Liam McArthur LD
Will the member give way?