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Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you very much, convener. Good morning, everyone. A war memorial is a centre point of many a community’s life. People gather round it on remembrance Sunday to pay their respects to and remember those who gave their lives in conflict so that our communities may enjoy peac...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
05 Oct 2023
Veterans and Armed Forces Community
I begin by apologising to you, Presiding Officer, and to members in the chamber, as I will need to leave shortly after my speech. Edward Mountain was spot on, as usual. It is right that we highlight the challenges that our veterans face, the report by the veterans commissione...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
15 Jun 2022
Protection of War Memorials
I am really pleased to bring to the chamber my first members’ business debate, on better protection for Scotland’s war memorials. I appreciate that I am cutting it a bit fine, as I go on maternity leave next week, but I am honoured to have the opportunity to raise such an impo...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you for your question. You will see that I am not here by myself today; I am joined by people from veterans groups, veterans charities and friends of war memorial groups, who feel very passionately about the issue. They do not want to see any more war memorials in Scotla...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As I said in my opening statement, destroying, damaging or desecrating war memorials has an impact not only financially on local authorities, which have to look after, maintain and restore war memorials, but on armed forces communities, veterans and the wider communities, who ...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
15 Jun 2022
Protection of War Memorials
Absolutely—I commented on that issue at the time. No memorial that has the names of loved ones on it should ever be defaced in such a manner, so I agree with the member’s comments. I know that some of my Central Scotland region colleagues will go on to mention various other ex...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
03 Feb 2026
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome that intervention from the cabinet secretary, and I agree. I am glad that we are having this discussion in the chamber today, where we are able to talk about it openly, and it will of course form part of the Official Report.I again welcome the approach that the cabin...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Feb 2026
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I begin by thanking everyone who supported the development of my member’s bill, particularly the staff of the non-Government bills unit for their exceptional assistance throughout the process and, of course, my wonderful office team. I also recognise and pay tribute to the mem...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The stark increase in, specifically, the desecration of war memorials, which I have researched, is what led to the bill’s creation, which is why I have stuck with war memorials. Again, I am not saying that one issue is more important than another, but the level of desecration ...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I think that because of the work that I have undertaken alongside the friends of Dennistoun war memorial group. We should all applaud the work that it has undertaken and the efforts that it has made to make this a stand-alone offence. It has taken a long time to get to this po...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to ensure that we look at the issue at hand, which is the desecration of war memorials. That is the issue that has been presented to me by the friends of Dennistoun war memorial and others who are very concerned about the number of war memorials that are being desecrate...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The definition that I have used drew heavily from the War Memorials Trust, the Imperial war museum and the private member’s bill that was introduced through another mechanism in England and Wales. It is based on my research and what has been brought to my attention by people w...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What I do not want to do is put anyone into a box. It would be very unfair to automatically say that, if a war memorial is desecrated, a younger person or someone in a certain age bracket will have done it. I think that that would be wholly unfair because, as we have seen in m...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The approach that I have taken is primarily one of deterrence. I have referenced that a lot today, because I believe that that is what the bill could achieve—people would think twice about desecrating war memorials, given their significant importance to our communities. You h...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is a really interesting point. I considered including education in the bill when I was piecing it together, but we decided not to go down that route because it would have been a bit complex for the bill that I was trying to introduce. However, in many instances, particula...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
26 Sep 2024
Ukraine
It has been more than two years since Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. However, if we take a closer look at the history of Russian aggression, we can see that the war began eight years ago, with the annexation of Crimea and the arming of Russian separatists in Donetsk ...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I agree that we should look at veterans’ housing and other needs of veterans. That is of course a job for the Scottish Government, and I hope that, by raising the issue of war memorials, the Government will do more for our veterans. The issue should not be a political football...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
08 May 2025
Victory in Europe Day (80th Anniversary)
We must never forget the brave men and women who fell during the conflict of world war two and those who fought to secure freedoms and liberties that we all take for granted today. We will forever be indebted to our second world war veterans for the sacrifices that they made, ...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
23 Feb 2023
Marking One Year of War against Ukraine
Tomorrow marks a very sombre occasion. It is exactly one year since the invasion of Ukraine began. The twenty-fourth of February 2022 has become a date that will live in infamy. On that day, we first became aware of the tragedy that was unfolding in Europe. News of the invasio...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In the financial memorandum to the bill, I do not estimate a large number of cases being prosecuted in the courts; my estimate is, I think, a maximum of 10 new cases per year. It is difficult to predict numbers, but if we are talking about numbers and hypotheticals, I would hi...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You have hit the nail on the head: I am trying to provide a deterrent. I believe that war memorials, given their significant importance, deserve a higher status of protection and that that can be provided through what I am trying to achieve. I should put on the record that I ...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
No, I do not have concerns there. Again, it would depend on the severity of the crime. I do not believe that the crimes that we have discussed this morning in relation to use of a permanent marker and urinating and defecating would amount to something that needed a 10-year sen...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You raise a fair point about rurality being an issue. I hope to create a deterrent with the bill; I do not want to cause a backlog in our courts system. My bill is strong enough to create the deterrent that we need in Scotland to ensure that we do not see the number of desecra...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am not sure that I would accept those comments as a whole. At the start of the bill process, I looked to see how wide the definition should be and I decided to keep the definition very succinct in relation to war memorials, given that that was the issue that I was looking at...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is an interesting point. If I may, I will touch on proposed new section 52A(4)(d) of the 1995 act, which provides that “something has a commemorative purpose in respect of armed conflict if at least one of its purposes is to commemorate one or more individuals or animals...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
04 Nov 2021
Portfolio Question Time · War Memorials (Protection and Preservation)
There has been an increase in the desecration and vandalism of Scotland’s war memorials since 2015. One such memorial that was targeted was the Duchess of Hamilton park war memorial in Motherwell, an area that I represent as a councillor and member of the Scottish Parliament. ...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
15 Jun 2022
Protection of War Memorials
I welcome the minister’s announcement, but will she acknowledge that the current legislation does not act as a deterrent, which is why we have seen vandalism of war memorials increase in the past decade?
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You raise an important point. I have tried to make the bill’s scope as direct as possible, not only because of the time limitations that the Scottish Parliament has for a member’s bill, but to ensure that the bill is easily understood and has a direct aim and objective. I am ...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am talking about war memorials and about people who fought and died for our country in wars. Of course—
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I understand exactly where you are coming from. To go back to the definition that I have set out, it relates to armed conflict—I have specified that in the bill. I have tried to make the bill as concise and clear as possible. I have tried not to expand on definitions too broad...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is not for me to hand out the sentences; that would be for the courts. Given the level of crime, it could be a nasty shock for someone if that is what the result of the court process ended up being. The bill is about lifting and protecting the status of war memorials throug...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The fact that the 10 years provision is in the bill means that it is a possibility, and it is not outwith the realms of possibility. If it is the case that lesser penalties are imposed, they would still be greater than what we are presently seeing in relation to convictions fo...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I would consider that. Proposed new section 52A(2) of the 1995 act provides that desecration “includes but is not limited to spitting, urinating or defecating upon, or otherwise defacing (whether temporarily or permanently) a war memorial.” Urinating will not permanently dam...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
19 Dec 2023
Ukrainians in Scotland
Presiding Officer, “We are standing strong. We have deep roots. We can’t be blown over—this is the place where we are grounded.” Those words will stay with me for a long time, because of a talented Ukrainian artist, Tetiana Hurn. I had the pleasure of meeting Tetiana at the ...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It comes back to the deterrence argument that I have been making this morning. I cannot see many circumstances in which someone would receive such a lengthy sentence on the back of desecrating a war memorial; however, we cannot rule that out, given what we have seen in recent ...
1. Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
04 Nov 2021
Portfolio Question Time · War Memorials (Protection and Preservation)
To ask the Scottish Government what measures are currently in place to ensure the protection and preservation of war memorials. (S6O-00319)
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
15 Jun 2022
Protection of War Memorials
Yes—certainly.
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do not have that information in front of me, but I would be happy to follow that up with the committee. However, the examples give you an insight into how many attacks can happen over a short period. That period was when we were beginning the research for the bill, but, of c...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is correct, as it stands. The issue could be looked at further; I have tried to ensure that the bill is as clear and succinct as possible, and that is why I wrote to the committee about places of worship, for example. I am keen to hear from members if they have examples o...
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Such a sentence is not outwith the realms of possibility. Again, it is not for me or for any of us, as MSPs and politicians, to determine what an appropriate sentence would be. That is for the court that is processing the case. It is important that that is separated.
Meghan Gallacher Con Committee
04 Sep 2025
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do not believe that that would be the case, because such a sentence could still be handed down. It depends on the situation, how the crime happened and the severity involved. I could not come to an overall conclusion on that today or at any point, because it is not for me or...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
03 Feb 2026
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will come to the point that I am trying to make. I have consulted the Presiding Officer’s office, I have been in contact with the Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture and I have tried to arrange business through my chief whip. Will the Presiding O...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
03 Feb 2026
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On a point of order, Presiding Officer.
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
03 Feb 2026
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I seek your guidance, Presiding Officer, because that was a disgusting and disgraceful intervention by Patrick Harvie. I have not wasted the Parliament’s time. I have tried to seek consensus in bringing forward a piece of legislation that a veterans group asked me to bring to ...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
23 May 2024
Europe Day 2024
I am grateful to the member for doing so, because it is such a vitally important date in European history. After all, without an allied victory in world war two, spearheaded by Britain and her allies, the formation of the Council of Europe would never have been possible in the...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
07 Mar 2024
International Women’s Day
I take the opportunity to welcome Kaukab Stewart to her post as Minister for Culture, Europe and International Development. We have worked together on the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, and I look forward to our exchanges in the chamber from now on. Int...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
26 Sep 2024
Ukraine
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for reassuring the Parliament today on the supersponsor scheme. If Scotland is to stand with Ukraine, we must continue to have such schemes in place to ensure that, should people feel unsafe or in need of further refuge, we are there to s...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
30 Apr 2025
Motorists
It is the SNP that has a war on motorists, and I will explain why in a second. I represent a commuter region. Many people who live across the central belt of Scotland travel to and from our major cities for work, school and university. Good transport links, affordable prices ...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
08 Mar 2022
International Women’s Day 2022
It is a pleasure to conclude on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. We have heard passionate contributions from members across the chamber, and, although we normally have different political views, we are united in our commitment to mark international women’s day and work to...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
08 Mar 2023
International Women’s Day 2023
Last weekend, I joined the First Minister and MSP colleagues as we gathered in the chamber to celebrate international women’s day. The event was organised by the Scottish Women’s Convention, and I put on record my thanks for such an enjoyable afternoon. A personal highlight of...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
24 May 2023
Ending Violence in Schools
We have heard harrowing stories from across the chamber about the increasing levels of violence in our schools. The first time that I heard about the true extent of the problem was when I took part in a panel event with NASUWT. The union spoke openly about how the education w...
Meghan Gallacher Con Chamber
23 Jan 2025
First Minister’s Question Time · Accident and Emergency Waiting Times
Lynn Nelson said: “I genuinely did not believe I would leave that hospital.” When I spoke to her this morning, she told me of her ordeal when she arrived at Wishaw general hospital in my region. She told me that the hospital was like a war zone and that she had no access to ...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
30 Apr 2025
Motorists
To bring some common sense back to the chamber, I echo what Sue Webber said in her opening remarks. The SNP has indeed declared war on Scotland’s motorists. Whether it be low-emission zones, roads crumbling away with potholes being unfilled or proposed reductions in speed limi...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
04 Dec 2025
Cumbernauld New Town (70th Anniversary)
I, too, thank Jamie Hepburn for bringing this celebratory event to the chamber. In planning terms, 70 years is practically adolescence, but in Scottish political terms, it is several boundary reviews, a few economic cycles and at least one argument about whether the A80 was fi...
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee 04 September 2025

04 Sep 2025 · S6 · Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Item of business
Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Thank you very much, convener. Good morning, everyone.

A war memorial is a centre point of many a community’s life. People gather round it on remembrance Sunday to pay their respects to and remember those who gave their lives in conflict so that our communities may enjoy peace and freedom, and to pay tribute to those who have served in wars. To many individuals and groups, particularly serving armed forces personnel, veterans and bereaved families, war memorials carry special meaning and significance. To some bereaved relatives and friends of people who have lost their lives in war but whose bodies were never recovered or repatriated, a war memorial is symbolic of a grave site.

Many veterans and armed forces groups have taken on the role of custodians of war memorials. They clean the stone, place flower beds and ensure that the surrounding area is kept tidy. I pay tribute to all groups that are involved in maintaining the upkeep of our war memorials.

Any attack on a war memorial, however large or small, is egregious, cruel, offensive and retraumatising for those who have lost loved ones in conflict or who have served or are serving themselves. In some cases, the vandalism or desecration of a war memorial would be categorised as a heritage crime. In practice, the offence is most likely to be charged and prosecuted under the statutory offence of vandalism or the common-law crime of malicious mischief.

Those matters are generally prosecuted in the justice of the peace and sheriff courts, and there are limits to the sentences that can be handed down and the levels of the fines that can be issued. Although those sentencing options are appropriate for most instances of vandalism, they do not allow courts to consider higher penalties, which would deter acts of desecration of war memorials and provide adequate redress for the distress caused to individuals and communities as a result of such acts.

The costs to local authorities of repairing and cleaning a defaced or damaged war memorial amount to thousands of pounds. That is due to the specialised stonemasonry involved in treating the stone and the skills that are required to restore them.

The question that I have for all committee members is this: do they believe that vandalism of a war memorial should be treated in exactly the same way as vandalism of a lamp post or a telephone box? In short, I do not believe that the current criminal law adequately takes account of the impact of the desecration of a war memorial on the people and communities for whom the memorial has significant and symbolic meaning.

That is why I consider that there should be a specific statutory offence of desecration of a war memorial, with options for courts to hand down higher penalties than those that are available at present, thereby creating a stronger deterrent. Ultimately, the sanctions would be for the courts to decide. However, I want to give them a range of options and for the law to more appropriately reflect the seriousness of this particular crime.

As committee members might be aware, the United Kingdom Parliament has already legislated in this area through the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022. That followed a private member’s bill from the then MP Jonathan Gullis that would have created an offence of desecrating a war memorial.

I will turn to the provisions of my bill. It is a short, three-section bill with one substantive section. Section 1 would insert a new section 52A into the Criminal Law (Consolidation) (Scotland) Act 1995. Proposed new section 52A(1) would establish an offence of desecration of a war memorial. That would mean that any person who

“wilfully or recklessly destroys, damages or desecrates a war memorial”

is committing an offence unless they have a reasonable excuse. What constitutes a reasonable excuse will be determined by the courts on a case-by-case basis. However, an example might be someone who is working on a war memorial to clean or maintain it accidentally causing damage to it in the course of their work.

Proposed new section 52A(2) sets out what desecrating a war memorial means. It includes, but is not limited to,

“spitting, urinating or defecating upon, or otherwise defacing ... a war memorial”,

and it includes both temporary and permanent damage.

Proposed new section 52A(3) sets out the penalties for the new offence. A person, on summary conviction, could face up to 12 months in prison and/or a fine up to the statutory maximum—the maximum fine is £2,500 in a justice of the peace court and £10,000 in a sheriff court. On conviction on indictment, someone could face up to 10 years in prison and/or an unlimited fine.

Proposed new section 52A(4) provides definitions for the terms that are used in the bill. The definition of “war memorial” draws heavily on the definition of “memorial” in section 50 of the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022. Subsection (4) also makes it clear that

“‘land’ does not include land over which access rights are not exercisable under section 6 of the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003”.

My intention is to exclude war memorials in private homes and gardens from the scope of the new offence.

Committee members will be aware that I have written to the committee about that matter. After the bill’s introduction, I became aware of a potential unintended consequence of that provision—namely, that it might exclude war memorials in the grounds of places of worship, which would be private land. As I indicated in my letter, should the bill proceed to stage 2, I plan to lodge an amendment to ensure that war memorials in places of worship or their grounds would be protected by the bill’s provisions, as well as those in any other places that would appropriately fall within the bill’s provisions.

As the bill relates to war memorials rather than memorials more generally, proposed new section 52A(4) makes it clear that

“something has a commemorative purpose in respect of armed conflict if at least one of”

the memorial’s

“purposes is to commemorate one or more individuals or animals, or a particular description or category of individuals or animals, who died in armed conflict”.

Sections 2 and 3 of the bill set out provisions on the bill’s commencement and short title.

I hope that that gives a clear overview of the bill and its underpinning policy development, and that it has been helpful to committee members. I look forward to taking questions and to the committee’s stage 1 scrutiny of the bill more generally.

In the same item of business

The Convener SNP
Under our next agenda item, we will take evidence on the Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill. We are joined in the room by Meghan Gallacher MSP, the...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Thank you very much, convener. Good morning, everyone. A war memorial is a centre point of many a community’s life. People gather round it on remembrance Su...
The Convener SNP
Thank you. I will reflect on what you have said. Two previous petitions have urged the Scottish Government to introduce legislation that recognises the desec...
Meghan Gallacher Con
As I said in my opening statement, destroying, damaging or desecrating war memorials has an impact not only financially on local authorities, which have to l...
The Convener SNP
In the examples that you gave, were the police able to secure any prosecutions associated with those incidents?
Meghan Gallacher Con
I do not have that information in front of me, but I would be happy to follow that up with the committee. However, the examples give you an insight into how ...
The Convener SNP
Thank you. We will move on to questions from the committee.
Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
Thank you for coming in and speaking to us. I have several fairly short questions. In the parish where I live, in Orkney, there is a small memorial with a s...
Meghan Gallacher Con
Thank you for your question. You will see that I am not here by myself today; I am joined by people from veterans groups, veterans charities and friends of w...
Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
Thank you very much. I have some technical questions. On the increased threat, war memorials will be targeted but not necessarily damaged on some occasions. ...
Meghan Gallacher Con
I would consider that. Proposed new section 52A(2) of the 1995 act provides that desecration “includes but is not limited to spitting, urinating or defecati...
Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
You are looking to lodge stage 2 amendments to reduce the number of exclusions and to include other organisations. Would that mean including places such as s...
Meghan Gallacher Con
You raise an important point. I have tried to make the bill’s scope as direct as possible, not only because of the time limitations that the Scottish Parliam...
Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
You talked about the spread of such actions. I represent the Highlands and Islands, where there are already great pressures on policing and on our courts sys...
Meghan Gallacher Con
You raise a fair point about rurality being an issue. I hope to create a deterrent with the bill; I do not want to cause a backlog in our courts system. My b...
The Convener SNP
Before we continue, I feel that I need to declare an interest, given that you have mentioned Duchess of Hamilton park. My great-uncle’s name was on the war m...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
In a way, convener, your comments underpin something that Meghan Gallacher is presenting to us about the significance of these places. My question is very si...
Meghan Gallacher Con
I think that because of the work that I have undertaken alongside the friends of Dennistoun war memorial group. We should all applaud the work that it has un...
Stephen Kerr Con
The Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022, which you mentioned, does not specifically mention war memorials; it is more broad and encompasses all mem...
Meghan Gallacher Con
I want to ensure that we look at the issue at hand, which is the desecration of war memorials. That is the issue that has been presented to me by the friends...
Stephen Kerr Con
The additional levers include sentences of up to 10 years in prison and fines of up to £10,000. Those seem onerous. You might be about to make an argument ab...
Meghan Gallacher Con
You have hit the nail on the head: I am trying to provide a deterrent. I believe that war memorials, given their significant importance, deserve a higher sta...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I completely agree with your opening comment that any attack on a war memorial is cruel, offensive and deeply disrespectful. We do not want such attacks to t...
Meghan Gallacher Con
That is a really interesting point. I considered including education in the bill when I was piecing it together, but we decided not to go down that route bec...
Neil Bibby Lab
I repeat that any attacks on war memorials are deeply disrespectful. Such attacks are a scourge and we should do everything that we can to eradicate them. ...
Meghan Gallacher Con
It comes back to the deterrence argument that I have been making this morning. I cannot see many circumstances in which someone would receive such a lengthy ...
Neil Bibby Lab
Thank you.
The Convener SNP
I want to pick up on what I think Neil Bibby was alluding to in his final question. We might be talking about a young person who was just misbehaving and who...
Meghan Gallacher Con
What I do not want to do is put anyone into a box. It would be very unfair to automatically say that, if a war memorial is desecrated, a younger person or so...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Good morning to the witnesses. I will touch briefly on the sentencing issue that others have mentioned, but most of my questions will be about the scope of t...