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Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Nov 2022
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
I thank primary care staff and everyone who provided evidence to our committee, including patients who told us their personal stories. I also thank the other members of the committee, especially our convener, Gillian Martin. As other members have said, primary care is the bac...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
20 Dec 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We know that integration joint boards are sometimes not delivering and that some voices are not being heard on them. Clearly there is some consensus that, when we talk about care boards, it sounds as though we might be recreating a system and just moving people around and, if ...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
03 Oct 2023
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You are absolutely right. I am sure that we can all agree on how valuable social care is, and the pathways that you spoke about are so important, too. I would like to ask you about the end of life. Not everyone will recover, and a substantial portion of the current health and...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
27 Sep 2022
Winter Planning
My question is for Donna Bell. Last week, I met the chief executive officer of Enable Scotland and we spoke about the high-quality self-directed health and social care that is provided through Enable Scotland’s successful personal assistant model, which is an example of how fo...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
28 Sep 2021
Social Care Stakeholder Session
With the national care service, we are talking about a significant increase in scope, and I want to ask Derek Feeley and Judith Proctor about the proposed community health and social care boards. How can we ensure that they have the breadth, capacity and ability to collaborate...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
28 Sep 2021
Health and Social Care Finance Stakeholder Session
I will direct my questions to Leigh Johnston and Siva Anandaciva, but they can correct me and suggest that someone else answers. I am an elected councillor in South Lanarkshire. Leigh Johnston spoke about the systems management approach. IJBs and health and social care partne...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
08 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I noted that COSLA’s submission talked about the bill failing to “address the difficult issue set out in the Independent Review of Adult Social Care, that of profit within the sector.” Its submission also said that “Private sector provision ... accounts for 76 per cent of c...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
15 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank the witnesses for being here this morning. Yesterday, we paid a visit to Granite Care Consortium in Aberdeen, which consists of 10 providers. People from the health and social care partnership were there, too. They talked quite a lot about moving away from the time-an...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
29 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1
I would like to pick up on that. When we visited Granite Care Consortium, the providers themselves were stepping care up and down without having to reference back, which I think Rachel Cackett mentioned earlier, and we saw how important that had been. In the final report, ther...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
29 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1
I go back to what the Granite Care Consortium did in Aberdeen. There has been a real shift in power. The health and social care partnership essentially handed over a budget. The providers were at the table, and they were able to work collaboratively to provide seamless care an...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
23 Nov 2021
Data and Digital Services in Health and Social Care
We have been talking about the challenge of pulling together the data and information for effective use in primary care. The situation in social care is wholly different; it has really big gaps. Scott Heald mentioned public trust and confidence; because of going through Covid,...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
29 Mar 2022
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
A couple of weeks ago, we heard strong evidence about the importance of the single electronic patient record and the need for easy, seamless and secure access to shared health and care records at the point of care. We were told that the single electronic patient record will im...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
17 May 2022
Social Care
Earlier, you gave us the very good example of Granite Care Consortium—I hope that I got the name right—and front-line staff being able to step up care to prevent people from going into hospital and then to step down that care. How can we measure the effectiveness of our invest...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
09 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My question is for either Tony Buchanan or Mike Burns. I agree that integration has brought about really positive changes for families, and I share the passion expressed by all the witnesses for providing the best possible support. However, we need to go back to the beginning...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
15 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Cara Stevenson spoke earlier about the fact that care workers are at breaking point—you were passionate and quite emotional about it—because they have faced an incredibly difficult time. Nurses are facing an equally tough time. However, nurses have a certain image, because peo...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
13 Dec 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My question is for Mark Hazelwood, too. Palliative care brings so much comfort and reassurance to families—in fact, it is priceless—but how well are things working in relation to keeping people at home as much as possible? You talked earlier about one in three hospital beds be...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
20 Dec 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am grateful to you for allowing me to come back in, convener. Minister, last week, we had Mark Hazelwood from the Scottish Partnership for Palliative Care, who talked about the fact that not everybody will recover and that one in three hospital beds is used by someone who i...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
20 Dec 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to pick up on that. Housing first was a revelation—we could see it really changing people’s lives with wraparound care and seamless joined-up services. The bigger picture is that public health approach at a population level. There are housing and homelessness services, ...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
28 Sep 2021
Social Care Stakeholder Session
How do we ensure parity for unpaid carers who carry out different jobs? How do we go about getting that parity? With demographics changing over the next few years, a lot of us will be looking at taking on a caring role. Derek Feeley spoke about shifts towards human rights in s...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2021
Long Covid
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for bringing this important topic to the chamber. The numbers of people with long Covid are high, and that is a major public health matter. More than 75,000 people in Scotland are currently estimated to be suffering from long Covid and, as the pandem...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Chamber
20 Jan 2022
First Minister’s Question Time · Care Home Places
Given the prevalence of private care home provision across Uddingston and Bellshill, and Scotland more widely, how will the national care service deliver improved terms and conditions for private care home staff and ensure high-quality care for residents?
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
18 Jan 2022
Health and Wellbeing of Children and Young People
Given that almost a quarter of girls in care get pregnant and that care leavers are at much higher risk of having their babies removed, what steps can we take to tackle stigma and to help care-experience young people to plan for the future and make confident decisions?
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
29 Mar 2022
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
It is good to hear you mention multidisciplinary teams, and it is great that they are expanding to include physios, pharmacists, occupational therapists, mental health nurses, dentists, optometrists, psychiatrists and paramedics. The teams are getting bigger and bigger all the...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Chamber
03 Nov 2022
Allied Health Professions Day 2022
I thank Carol Mochan. I am delighted that we were able to reschedule the debate so that we can celebrate allied health professionals. From what I saw, it was definitely a party last time, and I hope that AHPs will all be partying again tonight. When we think of our NHS, it is...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
08 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Human rights are absolutely at the centre of the bill and the approach to the delivery of social care. For some people, those rights often seem to be at odds with the constraints that are imposed by finite resources. Is that always true? Is that your experience, or does invest...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
29 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1
Thanks very much. I will stay with you for a moment, Fanchea. You say in your written submission that the bill should “include representation by housing organisations” and that its being about wellbeing and prevention is absolutely central. We know that there has been variat...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
05 Dec 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Keeping in mind what Clare Gallagher has said, we are now going to talk about an integrated and accessible electronic social care and health record. The fact that that is a bit of a mouthful might in itself be something that we need to think about. I am also very aware of the ...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
05 Dec 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That leads me on to my next question, which is for Hannah Tweed. Should social care users have ownership of and access to a single integrated electronic care record? If they should, how could that work effectively on the ground in practical terms?
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
20 Dec 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
One of the barriers to that seems to be the idea of incorporating community health primary care services and taking that kind of public health approach. If we are saying that no health staff will be transferred into the national care service, can that really be achieved?
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
03 May 2023
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Whether children and young people in secure care are secured on welfare or offence grounds, they are the most vulnerable and at-risk people in Scotland. The bill will bring changes for secure accommodation providers, because they will be accommodating older young people and, a...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
03 May 2023
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thanks for that answer. That really is a change. A lot more time will be spent with those people who have committed serious offences as well. Yes, care providers are very supportive of the bill, but they are also very clear about the real risks around accommodating those older...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
09 May 2023
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill (Stage 1 Timetable)
Minister, you have already offered clarity on a number of the points that I was going to raise. During stage 1 scrutiny, the Scottish Government confirmed its intention that the integration joint boards will be replaced by new local care boards. Is that replacement still the ...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
03 Oct 2023
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, minister. You have touched on some of this already, but what is the Scottish Government doing to support local authorities and health and social care partnerships with the current and immediate issues in social care and to support provision, including, for exampl...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
24 Oct 2023
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Last year, the Scottish Government said that co-design would produce a charter of rights, a national complaints process and an electronic health and care record, but not services. At this point, are you clear which aspects of the national care service are being co-designed, wh...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
01 Nov 2023
Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
You have recognised the importance in secure care of grouping children together appropriately. There may be children who have committed very serious crimes and have manipulative tendencies alongside children who are very vulnerable. There is a bit of concern about the increasi...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
07 Sep 2021
Scottish Government Priorities (Health and Social Care)
Pre-pandemic, adverse childhood experiences were possibly the biggest public health issue facing Scotland, with poverty being a strong reinforcing factor. Evidence suggests that the resulting toxic stress leads to health problems in adulthood, including heart attacks, strokes ...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
05 Oct 2021
Health and Care Bill
I noticed that, in relation to the legislative consent memorandum, the Department of Health and Social Care advised that it had undertaken engagement in round-table and smaller discussions, including with the NHS Confederation, which covers England, Wales and Northern Ireland....
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
23 Nov 2021
Data and Digital Services in Health and Social Care
That is great—thank you very much. I mentioned that GPs are incentivised, but it is a matter of recording the core data in a standardised way: that is probably the important part of it. What helpful things can we learn from other countries about the minimum data sets for soci...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
18 Jan 2022
Health and Wellbeing of Children and Young People
I realise that you are probably talking about carers and families getting the support that they need from health and social care workers to do that well. On a wider and more general level, what training needs exist in the health and social care workforce in relation to sexual ...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
08 Feb 2022
Health and Wellbeing of Children and Young People
What consideration has the Scottish Government given to offering care-experienced people lifelong support? We know that there is often generational trauma—adverse childhood experiences run through the generations. Young children in particular reflect their parents’ emotional a...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
22 Feb 2022
Social Care
We have spoken a lot about terms and conditions and culture. I am currently a councillor on South Lanarkshire Council. I know that one of the things that families want most is one front door for all services. However, that can be problematic when staff have different pay and c...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
22 Feb 2022
Social Care
That is great. Those are really interesting points and they answer a lot of the follow-up questions that I had. Donald, will you expand a wee bit on what evidence we have on the relative cost effectiveness of investing in preventative care, as opposed to waiting until things ...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
15 Mar 2022
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
I have a quick follow-up question for Julie Mosgrove, who spoke about diabetes being spotted really early and about referring people to their GPs. Does she refer people directly to other primary care pathways or to specialists? Is that appropriate? I am trying to figure out ho...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
15 Mar 2022
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
Thank you—Inaudible. That is great. It is helpful to know that those referral pathways work in primary care services and beyond.
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
15 Mar 2022
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
I want to dig a wee bit more into the issues that Paul O’Kane has raised. The big picture really matters. The GP relationship is established over many years, and it is important to many patients. GPs know their patients and their circumstances, and that relationship allows GPs...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
15 Mar 2022
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
We touched on the single electronic patient record during Gillian Mackay’s questions, and I have a further question on that. Going back to what Clare Morrison of the previous panel said—all the other witnesses agreed with her—having a single electronic patient record would be ...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
29 Mar 2022
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
Changing how the public access primary care is key to making this a reality: alternative pathways must deliver for patients. In evidence, we have heard about long waiting lists that can encourage patients to default to going to the GP. How will the Scottish Government improve ...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
29 Mar 2022
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
I have a final question. It is nice and short, but I am not sure that the answer will be nice and short. What might the implications of the national care service be on capacity and workforce planning?
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Chamber
12 May 2022
International Nurses Day
I, too, thank Jackie Baillie for lodging her motion. This is a day for celebration. It is a day to celebrate the dedication, kindness and passion of nurses in Scotland and beyond. Nurses are people who keep the health service going, no matter what happens. They deserve our rec...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
17 May 2022
Social Care
Yes. The recommendations in the 2019 fair work convention report went way beyond pay and conditions. Can you provide us with examples of, or information about, plans for how social care workers will be involved in the design, development and delivery of the service?
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
17 May 2022
Social Care
We have known for quite a long time from the Christie commission report and so on about the shift that needs to be made from critical to preventative care. Indeed, that is something that I think we can all agree on. Have we looked at the level of unmet need and what it would c...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
20 Sep 2022
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24
I have a question for Professor Bell. When we talk about the national care service, we are focusing on what matters to individuals and on supporting people to achieve the outcomes that they want. My thinking is that that is about their health and wellbeing. If they feel better...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Chamber
04 Oct 2022
Health and Care Recovery (Winter Planning)
Throughout the pandemic, our NHS and social care staff have shown extraordinary commitment and have worked under immense pressure to support people. Now, those same staff face increased living costs and energy prices. What steps are being taken to support employees in the NHS ...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
25 Oct 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank the panel for coming along. Sir Harry said early on that it is critical to ask people what matters to them and then to help them to achieve that, which can also save costs down the line. What further provisions could the bill include to ensure that the focus is on pers...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
01 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Are you saying that you do not really see the value of a co-production approach through the national care service?
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP Committee
08 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My question is for Patricia Cassidy. What co-design is already under way with social work and social care staff? Is that presenting opportunities for social workers, for example, to better apply their expertise?
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
08 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Will the bill as introduced create the conditions for innovation? Are co-design and co-production well enough and broadly enough understood across health and social care?
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
08 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We have discussed ethical commissioning and procurement. Could the review’s recommendations in that regard be met within the current model? Why did you not consider alternatives such as public-social partnerships and alliancing? Is such a radical redesign of social care commis...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
09 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On the point about locally elected members and decision making, it was my understanding that care boards would include elected members as well as different organisations—local, third sector and voluntary organisations—and people with lived experience. I just make that point. ...
Stephanie Callaghan SNP Committee
09 Nov 2022
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Does that link in to asset-based community development? Would we be looking only at children and young people and families or would we also look at all the organisations that are involved? A good example of real co-design and co-production in my area is the autism resources co...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 10 November 2022

10 Nov 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Alternative Pathways to Primary Care
Callaghan, Stephanie SNP Uddingston and Bellshill Watch on SPTV

I thank primary care staff and everyone who provided evidence to our committee, including patients who told us their personal stories. I also thank the other members of the committee, especially our convener, Gillian Martin.

As other members have said, primary care is the backbone of our health service. One of the points that came up was the question: what is primary care? When asked, most people will say that it is about their GP but, as we have heard, it is about much more than that. It includes community nurses, physiotherapists, occupational therapists, dentists, those who provide end-of-life care, health visitors and many others. That is not to forget the invisible support staff who back them all up.

Primary care is the first point of contact with healthcare for most people, and strong primary care is central to an effective and sustainable health service. In general practice, our GPs are busier than they have ever been. GPs and their teams are striving to meet spiralling patient demand and to establish key primary care networks. In Lanarkshire, there has been an increase of between 40 per cent and 50 per cent in demand for patient appointments.

The challenges of Brexit, the pandemic and 12 years of austerity have all hit really hard, and the current level of inflation is yet another threat that we face.

The need to reform general practice and deliver alternative pathways has never been as pressing as it is today. However, it is a challenging area for reform, both in Scotland and internationally. Our access to primary care is deeply affected by many factors, including resources, staffing and planning. A lot goes on in primary care: as we heard repeatedly in the committee, services are working really hard to adapt at a time when resources are already stretched to the limit, which is compounding the barriers to sustainable and effective change. However, that does not mean that we need to slow down; rather, it means that we need to work even harder to ensure that we meet those challenges head on.

We also need to be mindful that the public are being asked to adapt, too, at a time when they have never been more anxious or confused about access to care. The public might think that the process has started just because of Covid, so we need to get the recognition out there that it started before then. It is not just a response to Covid; it is the right thing to do.

Transformation is needed, and the success of our NHS will depend, to some extent, on our ability to increase access to, and awareness of, alternative pathways to primary care. Those pathways include receiving advice or treatment from allied health professionals, using social prescribing initiatives and accessing websites or using telephone services. People can do those things instead of going directly to their GP every time.

The term “alternative pathways” might be slightly confusing, because we really mean effective pathways to receiving better care. We might need to communicate that a bit more coherently.

During the inquiry, the majority of people did not quite understand why we were reforming general practice. Again, we really need to talk about that message. A general practice is a community asset that should act as the glue that connects all other healthcare services and professionals, rather than being the single focal point with patients dependant on a particular GP.

There is so much more in the report, and we have heard so much about it already today, but I want to touch on three bits of it: community social prescribing, digital opportunities and recruitment challenges. In some cases, there was an increase in uptake of social prescribing during the pandemic. The comments that we got from patients were really positive. They noted

“quicker and better health outcomes”.

However, the evidence suggests that some people were

“reverting back to their GP”,

so we need to take on board that it will take time for behaviours to change.

In my constituency in Lanarkshire, the community link workers programme offers full coverage across all practices. This year, more than half of Lanarkshire’s GP services referred into the GP community link workers programme, with just under 300 referrals. The most common reasons related to mental health issues, but we know that social prescribing can be effective for physical health and fitness, too—it can have a huge impact in that regard. I would welcome an update on any plans that the Scottish Government has to develop social prescribing further in order to build on that success, particularly around a national lead to improve delivery.

On digital opportunities, our report highlights that digital progress will be key to transforming healthcare for patients and health professionals. I read the recent Scottish Government report, “Care in the Digital Age”, which sets out the delivery plan as we move through the rest of this year to 2023.

We want to see easy-to-use patient apps that provide easy access to appointments and test results. That is a huge thing. A single electronic patient record is another huge thing. If health and care professionals across the NHS and social care could access such a record, that would make a huge difference not just to them but to their patients.

The reality on the ground is that a lot of time and money is being invested, but, just now, a lot of that is going into information technology systems on strengthening cybersecurity and training up staff. Although I recognise the complexities and level of background work in that area, I hope that the cabinet secretary will offer a bit of reassurance that developing digital apps and records will be a priority for the future. I know that it is challenging, but it is vitally important.

I will briefly mention recruitment, which is a really challenging area, as other members have said. However, to touch on some positives, I welcome the Scottish Government’s winter plan, which commits to recruiting 1,000 additional staff, including 750 nurses and 250 support staff, over the winter season.

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-06702, in the name of Gillian Martin, on behalf of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, on its in...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
As the convener of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, I am pleased to open the debate on the committee’s inquiry into alternative pathways to prima...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I remind members who wish to speak in the debate to check that they have pressed their request-to-speak button. 15:06
The Minister for Public Health, Women’s Health and Sport (Maree Todd) SNP
As the public health minister, I welcome the opportunity to open this debate on alternative pathways to primary care. I commend the committee for its timely ...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Are we are aware of how many full-time-equivalent GPs currently deliver primary care in the NHS? Are we aware of how many full-time-equivalent community link...
Maree Todd SNP
I can get that data for the member. I am sure that the cabinet secretary will include it in his summing up. I know that we have increased the number of GPs w...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
Primary care is the backbone of the NHS, and it is at breaking point. With increasing demands and limited capacity, it is in a perpetual extreme winter. The ...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Some of what the member is saying is interesting, and some of it is in the report. However, it seems as if what he is proposing is not what the report was ab...
Sandesh Gulhane Con
I am referring to the professionals whom I am in contact with every day. This debate is about alternative pathways; it is not purely about the report that wa...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I take this opportunity to thank all my colleagues on the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee for the work that they put into the report. I am pleased to...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Humza Yousaf) SNP
I thank Carol Mochan for taking an intervention during what I think is a really helpful speech. If we have to mitigate £650 million of inflationary pressure ...
Carol Mochan Lab
The cabinet secretary will know that I absolutely agree that one of the biggest challenges that we face in Scotland is the current climate of austerity from ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I will come to the pretty impressive committee report, but we simply cannot ignore the context. I have never seen primary care in the state that it is in now...
Gillian Martin SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Willie Rennie LD
I will not just now. The reasons include refusing for years to recruit enough GPs, cutting the number of nurse training places, failing to eradicate delayed...
Gillian Martin SNP
Will the member give way?
Willie Rennie LD
The member should listen to this list. It is important. The reasons include undervaluing of social care year after year after year, and delaying the mental ...
Maree Todd SNP
I wonder, as I listen to Willie Rennie’s litany of failures by the SNP Government, whether he has reflected, at all, on his party’s role in bringing in auste...
Willie Rennie LD
We must pray that, at some point, the SNP Government will accept responsibility for its own powers and its decisions over the past 15 years, including what w...
Gillian Martin SNP
Will the member give way?
Willie Rennie LD
I am sorry, I do not have time.
Gillian Martin SNP
As the convener of the committee—
Willie Rennie LD
No. I am sorry: I am not taking an intervention. From my discussions with the police and GPs, I think that there is very little evidence that the action on ...
Gillian Martin SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Speaking as the convener of the committee that produced the report, I say that it is very frustrating when members c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I thank Ms Martin for her point of order. The debate is focused on the “Alternative pathways to primary care” report, but it is quite a wide subject area and...
Willie Rennie LD
I understand why SNP members do not want to talk about this stuff, because their failure over the past 15 years has been lamentable. It has been a disgrace a...
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP) SNP
I thank Gillian Martin and her committee colleagues for producing the report for debate and I thank the clerks for their help. In the time that I have toda...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Paul McLennan SNP
Yes.
Craig Hoy Con
Inaudible.