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Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I turn to grazing and mowing leases. I know that a number of respondents to the committee’s call for views suggested that section 1 should be clarified with respect to grazing or mowing leases. The provisions in the bill will reflect the existing law and the fact that there ar...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
On the Faculty of Advocates’ comments, I know that the organisation criticised the general approach to the definition of commercial leases at stage 1, arguing that it does not make sense to have the automatic continuation for commercial leases and the common law of tacit reloc...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
An issue was raised about charity accommodation for veterans and care leavers. Residential leases in general are excluded from the scope of the bill. Sometimes, leases such as holiday lets are covered, and the SLC is clear in its report about the reasons why they are not exclu...
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Good morning. The Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill will implement recommendations that the Scottish Law Commission made in 2022 to reform aspects of the Scots law of commercial leases. This is the fourth SLC bill in the current parliamentary session, and a f...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Yes. You will be aware that the three main types of leases that we have in Scotland are agricultural, residential and commercial. The bill specifically looks at the commercial aspect. To widen it would probably be a huge job and require another bill. When the SLC considered it...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
The new law is intended to replace the pre-commencement law underlying a lease, including any implied terms. It is not intended to validate or invalidate the arrangements that the parties have expressed in their lease, as paragraphs 8 and 10 of schedule 2 make clear. Any expr...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
As I said in my opening speech, the law of termination of leases needs reform because it is inaccessible, uncertain and outdated. The SLC considered the case for reform by consulting advisory groups, issuing a small discussion paper and engaging with the legal profession, land...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
My view is that the law in that area needs reform. Different views have been given about what the Rockford Trilogy case involved. Some legal professionals have welcomed the decision, whereas others have not. For some, the decision brings certainty but, for others, it means th...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Section 30 concerns the irritancy of leases and the landlord’s need to serve an irritancy notice on a tenant’s heritable creditor. Some stakeholders have criticised the provision, but I disagree and think that it is both workable and of wider public importance. The responsibil...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Communication between landlord and tenant is vital, especially when it comes to serving notice and bringing the lease to an end, and sections 27 and 28 will resolve the issues with that. The committee has heard from the Federation of Small Businesses that, in general, it is c...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
That goes back to your point about raising awareness to simplify things for tenants and landlords. I recognise that the provisions of the bill are important for small businesses and landlords across the country. The changes that will be made by the bill will ensure that the le...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
The provisions in the bill on oral notice by tenants reflect the law as it is at the moment. For those who think that a tenant should give notice in writing, there is flexibility in the bill to provide for that. It is open to the parties to agree a provision in the lease that ...
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP Chamber
28 Sep 2023
Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I value greatly the law reform work that the Scottish Law Commission undertakes to simplify and improve our laws, and I remain committed to introducing bills to implement its recommendations. The Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill, which we are discussing today, is the se...
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP Chamber
19 Sep 2024
Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The Scottish Law Commission does the important job of consulting on, and making recommendations to simplify and improve, our law. I am committed to introducing bills to implement its proposals, and the Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill, which we are debating today, is one of th...
Siobhian Brown SNP Chamber
19 Sep 2024
Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank all members for their contributions to this afternoon’s debate. I repeat my thanks to the Scottish Law Commission for the work that has gone into this project and to the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee for its work in gathering and responding to evidence on t...
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP Chamber
10 Dec 2024
Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill
I thank all the members of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee for their attentive and valuable work in scrutinising the Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill. The bill is a Scottish Law Commission bill: I thank the commission for its considerable work—not only on this p...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
My understanding is that codification will simplify things by bringing into legislation all the legal principles of tacit relocation. It is a technical legal question, which I will pass over to Michael Paparakis to expand on, given his expertise.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I have not personally sent any communication. My officials might have had conversations that I am not aware of.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
We touched on that earlier—the codification in the bill brings all the different parts together to make it more accessible to tenants and landlords. It is all in one place. Michael, do you want to add any more?
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I will pass the question to Michael, to talk about the technicalities.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Thank you, Mr Kidd. I do not agree that all sections of the bill that deal with notice are too complex. The current law already lacks clarity and certainty, so the bill will resolve that issue. The bill provides a short list of essential requirements for a notice to quit and a...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
The issue of adding a bit more flexibility between the tenant and the landlord has been raised by a few people. It is an interesting suggestion, which we could explore moving forward. I do not know whether there would be any legal or technical obstacles to that. Michael might ...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Yes, I think that all those issues can be considered. I do not know whether there is anything different in your question compared with the original question on the notice period as between landlord and tenant, but we will be considering those aspects, and we will write to the ...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
To respond to that point, one of the main aims of the bill is to simplify the process and make it easier for tenants and landlords to navigate.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
The bill is still in the very early stages. You have just had your latest evidence session and I welcome the committee’s scrutiny of the bill. I will take on board everything that you have said. I do not know whether, at this stage, I will commit that the bill will be heavily ...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Yes.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
From my understanding, when the Scottish Law Commission drafted the bill, its intention was to make the legislation more accessible, but also to modernise it. I think that someone said that you could google the terminology to find out what it means, but should you need to goog...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
The drafting of section 5 strikes an appropriate balance, and it will ensure that the law can respond flexibly to an array of circumstances that tenants and landlords might find themselves in. The drafting reflects the current common law, and it will allow the courts to contin...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I might ask the legal team about that.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Yes, of course. My understanding is—
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Yes, I know. My advisers have advised that they do not feel that that will be the case, but, if something is flagged up, we will consider it.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
At this stage, yes. Do you want to add anything, Michael?
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
Yes—that has been brought up previously in evidence. It is an interesting proposal, and we are looking at how we can move forward on it.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I understand that there has been a suggestion that tenants should be obliged to provide information about a heritable security to the landlord. There are potential difficulties with that in practice. For example, by the time the irritancy notice is required to be served, the h...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
It is just a suggestion, and I think that any prudent landlord would normally undertake to do that before entering into a lease.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I ask Michael Paparakis to comment on that.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I have not seen any data on those specific figures.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I will pass over to Michael Paparakis or Lori Pidgeon, because that is a technical issue.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I am pleased that the responses to the SLC’s recommendation that a stage 2 amendment be lodged to give effect to its recommendation have been generally positive, and I welcome the scrutiny that the committee has done on the matter. As members will be aware, the SLC’s recommen...
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
We will look into it and I will write to the committee with that information.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I do not have any information on that, because it is technical. I will pass the question to Lori Pidgeon or Michael Paparakis.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
No, I have just considered the bill that we are discussing. I do not know whether the SLC has been looking at that in work of a wider scope.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
We can definitely consider that.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
I know that a few suggestions have been made to the committee. I will have to go away and consider them with my officials before I comment on any of them.
Siobhian Brown SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill
No. Thank you for the opportunity to discuss the bill.
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 20 May 2025

20 May 2025 · S6 · Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Item of business
Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

I turn to grazing and mowing leases. I know that a number of respondents to the committee’s call for views suggested that section 1 should be clarified with respect to grazing or mowing leases. The provisions in the bill will reflect the existing law and the fact that there are currently grazing leases that fall under common law rather than agricultural legislation. Under section 1, a grazing or mowing lease of less than a year is an agricultural lease and will be excluded from the bill’s provisions. Such leases are included in schedule 1, which deals with leases that do not automatically continue. However, grazing leases exist that are not defined as agricultural under the current legislation. Those can be dealt with. If not, the common law of tacit relocation would continue to apply to them after any provisions of the bill come into force.

I will move on to telecoms infrastructure, such as wind farms and electricity substations. There are already two parallel processes for the termination of telecoms leases under the current legal framework. Currently, parties have to satisfy themselves as to whether the electronic communications code applies. If not, common law will apply. If any provisions of the bill come into force, those will apply rather than common law. Members may recall, from the committee’s work on the recent SLC bills, the idea of specific legislation applying in circumstances where there is more legislation. This is just another extremely technical example of where a specific code applies even when there is more general provision in the bill.

If we are looking at clarifying the application to heritable property, the Law Society of Scotland has suggested that it could be made clearer in the bill that it does not apply to leases of movable property. My officials are looking into this specific issue, and we will speak to the Law Society to get more information on it. I will write to the committee ahead of the stage 1 debate with information on that issue and on anything that we intend to take further.

In the same item of business

The Convener SNP
Under agenda item 5, we are taking evidence from Siobhian Brown, the Minister for Victims and Community Safety, on the Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (S...
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP
Good morning. The Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill will implement recommendations that the Scottish Law Commission made in 2022 to reform ...
The Convener SNP
Thank you, minister. I will open the questioning before handing over to colleagues. Will you explain the general rationale behind the bill and how you think...
Siobhian Brown SNP
As I said in my opening speech, the law of termination of leases needs reform because it is inaccessible, uncertain and outdated. The SLC considered the case...
The Convener SNP
What you have indicated, particularly at the end, ties in with my next question. Is that the reason why the decision was made to attempt to codify the law in...
Siobhian Brown SNP
My understanding is that codification will simplify things by bringing into legislation all the legal principles of tacit relocation. It is a technical legal...
Michael Paparakis (Scottish Government)
One of the options, as you suggested, convener, was to reform part of the law and leave other parts to the common law. Doing that would perhaps make the law ...
Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am interested in your views on the various suggestions that have been made to tighten up the definitions in part 1 and schedule 1 in relation to excluding ...
Siobhian Brown SNP
On the Faculty of Advocates’ comments, I know that the organisation criticised the general approach to the definition of commercial leases at stage 1, arguin...
Roz McCall Con
Yes.
Siobhian Brown SNP
An issue was raised about charity accommodation for veterans and care leavers. Residential leases in general are excluded from the scope of the bill. Sometim...
Roz McCall Con
May I come back in on that point? I am sorry to interrupt, minister—that was rude of me. As we are looking at a bill that is meant to make the law more acces...
Siobhian Brown SNP
Yes. You will be aware that the three main types of leases that we have in Scotland are agricultural, residential and commercial. The bill specifically looks...
Michael Paparakis
As the minister said, agricultural and mixed-use leases can currently happen. In essence, that is due to the fact that the definition of an agricultural leas...
Roz McCall Con
Okay. Thank you. Please continue, minister.
Siobhian Brown SNP
I turn to grazing and mowing leases. I know that a number of respondents to the committee’s call for views suggested that section 1 should be clarified with ...
Roz McCall Con
Thank you, minister. That is all very helpful. I have an additional question regarding the termination of leases with the telecommunications and electricity ...
Siobhian Brown SNP
I have not personally sent any communication. My officials might have had conversations that I am not aware of.
Michael Paparakis
We have had no contact with the UK Government about the telecommunications code. That is essentially because, as the minister pointed out, if a lease falls u...
Roz McCall Con
That is helpful—thank you. 10:15
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
Good morning, minister. We have taken a lot of evidence on this. Some people have given evidence that the law on giving notice in commercial leases may need...
Siobhian Brown SNP
My view is that the law in that area needs reform. Different views have been given about what the Rockford Trilogy case involved. Some legal professionals h...
Jeremy Balfour Con
To develop that, what is your view on the advantages and disadvantages of codifying the law instead of simply updating areas that the Scottish Law Commission...
Siobhian Brown SNP
We touched on that earlier—the codification in the bill brings all the different parts together to make it more accessible to tenants and landlords. It is al...
Michael Paparakis
I reiterate the point that I made earlier to the convener: if you only update aspects of the law and do not look at the wider issue, there is the potential f...
Jeremy Balfour Con
Everybody agrees that this is a technically difficult area of law. The Scottish Law Commission’s goal was to make the law simpler so that landlords and tenan...
Siobhian Brown SNP
I will pass the question to Michael, to talk about the technicalities.
Michael Paparakis
I think that the law is more simple because it has been brought together in one place. Tenants and landlords will be able to look up the act and find out wha...
Jeremy Balfour Con
Thank you. I will leave it there for the moment.
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
Thank you for being here today, minister and colleagues. What is your view of arguments made to the committee that the new rules in the bill on giving notice...