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Michelle Thomson SNP Chamber
26 Feb 2026
Cost-effectiveness of Scottish Public Inquiries
There we go. Let the excitement commence!We also talked a lot about budgets. I consider it to be absolutely fair that budget lines are phased and are signed off throughout a public inquiry. However, during our inquiry, several of us commented on the fact that there is no other...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Committee
20 Sep 2022
Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)
Good afternoon. Thank you for coming along today. I will ask the Auditor General a question first. In your submission, you said that the resource spending review “notes that there are ... 129 public bodies in Scotland”. You quite coyly comment that “structural reform ... c...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
23 May 2023
Public Service Reform Programme
It is alphabetical order, and T comes last. I thank the witnesses for joining us. I have a few questions. I first want to come to Alison Payne. We have had an interesting discussion, but we have not touched on public perceptions all that much. Arguably, the public are behind ...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
06 Dec 2023
Fiscal Framework Review
Starting at the beginning, there was much commentary during the Covid crisis that some of the lending that was being made available was merely propping up zombie businesses. What do we mean by “zombie businesses”? Investopedia says that zombies are countries “that earn just e...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
01 Feb 2024
Budget 2024-25
Only this week, the IMF reset its predictions for the UK economy. It predicts that the UK will be the second-worst performer in the G7 this year and the joint third-worst performer in 2025. We have had, in essence, and as reflected in the Finance and Public Administration Comm...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Committee
26 Mar 2024
Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum
Good morning to the witnesses, and thank you for attending the meeting. I want to pick up on that last point and reiterate what my colleague Liz Smith and the convener have said. It is absolutely necessary that we have an updated financial memorandum before the conclusion of ...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
31 Oct 2024
Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape
Each year, as we approach the budget, the FPAC—that is what I will shorten it to—hears the same refrain, which is broadly summarised as, “We’re great and we deserve more money.” Each successive group of witnesses says the same, and each successive group does not necessarily co...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
17 Jun 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
I have a final question on costs. John Campbell, the convener has already asked you about this. You said in your submission that you do not see that it is necessary to publish individuals’ costs, and I understand the sensitivity around that. However, if you were looking to eff...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Committee
01 Feb 2022
Budget Scrutiny 2022-23
The cabinet secretary will be pleased to know that, coming last, I have only a few questions because it has been such a comprehensive session. We have talked a lot about outcome. Of course, everybody is focused on outcome and efficient and effective spend of public money. To ...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
13 Jun 2023
Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus
You will be aware that the committee is looking at public sector review, spending and so on, in the light of rolling back from the resource spending review. I note your three key missions, part of which will involve looking at public bodies and public sector reform. To what ex...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Committee
04 Jun 2024
Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape
Good morning, Mr McKee. Thank you for attending today. You are the Minister for Public Finance, and I think that everyone can agree that the constraints on public finance are deeply significant. That has been one of the key issues that has driven the committee to look at the c...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
13 Jun 2024
Public Service Investment
I am pleased to support the SNP motion, but I am also pleased to place under scrutiny the wild claims that have been made by the Tories and Labour alike. I have listened to the debate: those parties are singing from the same hymn sheet, but they also appear to be consulting th...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
20 May 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
To go back to the convener’s earlier comment, we have seen examples of lawyers acting on behalf of clients making a call in the media—which can be vigorous—for a public inquiry. One can take the view either that the lawyers are doing the right thing for their clients or, alter...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
27 May 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
I want to go back to where we started. If you do not mind my saying so, Lord Hardie, I had a little titter to myself when you made the quite reasonable point that nobody knows the scope of such a piece of work. You might have a better recollection than I do, but I distinctly r...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
Good morning. Thank you very much for joining us. I will ask you some questions that reflect more on the integrity and reputation of the legal sector around public inquiries. Today, you will stoutly defend things where you deem it appropriate, and I have no issue with that. Ho...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
25 Nov 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
Thank you for that answer—I do not disagree. In the letter that you wrote to us on 30 May, you reiterated the alternatives to public inquiries could take place over “shorter timescales and/or at less overall cost than public inquiries.” You added: “Such considerations woul...
Michelle Thomson SNP Chamber
26 Feb 2026
Cost-effectiveness of Scottish Public Inquiries
Absolutely, and I thank Mr Whitfield for his kind intervention. I am not going to touch my laptop, because it has gone into what I would describe as a technical fankle. I am just going to play it safe.I start by noting how valuable I considered the inquiry to be. Indeed, I con...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
10 Mar 2026
Public Administration in the Scottish Government
But do you not think that you should consider that? This is all costing the public purse. As I think I have suggested before, if this was your money, I bet you would not be doing this, but this is public money. People are looking at this and going, “Well, this is costing the p...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Jun 2021
Justice System
I plan to address two areas in this short speech. First, I commend the Scottish Government’s commitment to creating a register of interests for members of the judiciary, and I congratulate the legal journalist Peter Cherbi for his long-standing commitment to that principle, w...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Committee
31 May 2022
National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action
Good morning, Deputy First Minister. As you will be well aware, the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015 states that public sector bodies, including local authorities, are required to “have regard to” the act in carrying out their functions. We are also aware that that do...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
04 Oct 2022
Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)
I am on record as talking about corruption and how we should reframe the loss of those moneys in gross domestic product terms. People tend to consider corruption as crime rather than a loss to GDP and, therefore, an inability to fund vital public services. I have said in a spe...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
23 May 2023
Public Service Reform Programme
It is about the framing, if you like. I have a slightly technical question for Antony Clark to help furnish my knowledge. As I understand it, there are rules about what is deemed to be a public body and is therefore pulled into the figures, the increase in which I saw in your...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
23 May 2023
Public Service Reform Programme
Yes. I suppose that my point is whether, given the data that we have on the strict definition of public services, that is actually an underestimate of the implications, and, therefore, when we look at public sector reform, whether the implications are greatly more significant....
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
01 Jun 2023
Artificial Intelligence
The debate is already a fascinating one. In preparing for it, I, too, tried putting a question in ChatGPT—I asked, “Is Stephen Kerr MSP more effective than a potato?” I can confirm that it was not able to answer that question, so it still has some way to go. Arguably, artific...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
26 Sep 2023
National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum
I want to pick up on the point that Liz Smith made. As well as finance, the committee is concerned with public administration, and we all know that the public purse is right under the cosh and every penny is a prisoner, if I may use that terminology. That suggests that the rel...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
03 Oct 2023
Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances
I am conscious that other colleagues will want to come in, but there are a couple more areas that I want to ask questions on. To finish my previous point, I have already picked up that some in the renewables sector are rattled by the Prime Minister’s recent cooling—or apparen...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
26 Oct 2023
Embedding Public Participation in the Work of the Parliament
As members will know, I often refer to academic sources when researching for speeches. Thanks to Carnegie Europe, I now know the following: “the principles of deliberation and sortition are not new. Rooted in ancient Athenian democracy, they were used throughout various point...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
21 May 2024
Public Administration in the Scottish Government
Thank you. I want to touch on where we are on the issue of whole-of-Government accounts. In “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”, the Auditor General said: “The continuing absence of a full public sector account reduces the transparency and acc...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
21 May 2024
Public Administration in the Scottish Government
I have a couple more questions—thank you for bearing with me. I would like to get a sense of things in the light of the new governmental structure and the new ministers—I am thinking, in particular, of Ivan McKee. Have you had any discussions thus far about public sector refor...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
29 Oct 2024
Fiscal Sustainability
I start with a few thoughts on tomorrow’s UK budget. Just as every citizen will be concerned about the sustainability of their own finances, not least pensioners and those in low-income households, the Scottish Government will very quickly have to consider the implications for...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
13 Nov 2024
Petroineos Grangemouth
Yes, I appreciate the commercial sensitivity; I am fully mindful of that. However, I think that having more public information as to the specific implications with regard to the hydrocracker, and why we are in the current position, would be helpful for the public record. In a...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
24 Apr 2025
First Minister’s Question Time · Public Sector Equality Duty
The public administration section of the Finance and Public Administration Committee recently met the outgoing permanent secretary. It was clear from evidence to the committee that Scottish civil servants are being subjected to internal policies that have not adhered to the pu...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
24 Apr 2025
Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers
Participants in the debate now have the chance to get their own back. I welcome the debate, and I congratulate the DPLR Committee on a detailed, well-evidenced report. I elected to speak in the debate as a member of the Finance and Public Administration Committee, which, it i...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
27 May 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
I want to explore the potential for conflict of interest a wee bit. Last week, I brought that up with Professor Cameron, who made it clear that the potential for such conflicts was actively considered. Today, we have had several examples of that: I declared an interest, as did...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
27 May 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
I will interrupt you there. I just wanted to check that point about inquiries being not for profit because, clearly, quite a lot of profit is being made. With the earlier panel—I know that Richard Pugh joined us later during that—we discussed the general theme of inquiries be...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Committee
17 Jun 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
Good morning to both Johns. Thank you for joining us. Continuing on similar themes, I suspect, I want to explore a little more the culture of the legal fraternity in such inquiries. Of course, one makes the assumption that all lawyers operate from complete integrity and ethics...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
24 Jun 2025
Public Administration in the Scottish Government
Despite the risk that that incurs. You will be aware that Sex Matters has already sent a letter before action, dated 18 June, giving 14 days’ notice of legal action. I understand that it is in the public domain today that there is a further email to you from For Women Scotland...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27
I have a question about trading standards and public administration. We have ended up getting quite embroiled in talking about public sector head count and accountability, but one benefit—as I have talked about in earlier commentary—stems from having shared services. We know t...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
There are quite a few points to pick up on, but let me be absolutely clear. You see it as appropriate to do your campaigning—we accept that, when an issue has come to light, campaigning is absolutely legitimate; nobody has any issue with that—through the mechanisms of the Parl...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
Yes, Michael Clancy said that it was unclear whether a lawyer would be exercising their freedom of speech. Compass Chambers said that it would not represent a conflict of interest if the lawyer was advancing their client’s position. I will link it to the financial element. L...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
25 Nov 2025
Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)
That is correct, but, again, there is the circular aspect, whereby, if we are emphasising the independence of the inquiry, it is incumbent on ministers to be very careful about any perception of bias. That is the point that I am making. On ethics, one of the long-standing Nol...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
14 Sep 2021
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19
Thank you. Mindful of the Finance and Public Administration Committee’s reputation for being the most exciting committee, I am going to take it up a level. This is a question for all three witnesses. One of the questions that everyone has been asked to submit on is how the Sco...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
21 Sep 2021
National Performance Framework
To evaluate where we are, there has been a lot of debate since the starting point, which you recall, on determining the value that is added by public spend and, therefore, arriving at the national performance framework. I appreciate the complexity, but do you see a further dri...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
02 Nov 2021
Sustainable Procurement and Fair Work Practices
Given that the debate is being held during COP26, I will raise a point regarding our net zero and climate change ambitions. The Scottish Government has published some excellent guidance on many aspects of procurement that will effectively influence our future direction and ena...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Committee
30 Nov 2021
Public Service Reform and Christie Commission
There has perhaps been a process of osmosis, because I was going to ask about similar areas to those that have been raised. We have explored how, in the 10 years since the Christie commission, we have tended to see evolution rather than revolution. The comment has been made th...
Michelle Thomson SNP Chamber
08 Dec 2021
Portfolio Question Time · Public Transport and Connectivity (Falkirk East)
Many people in the outlying areas of my constituency of Falkirk East feel that they have been left adrift by private companies that are driven by profit. Although I understand that the number of passengers is still below pre-Covid levels, that does not mean that communities sh...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
08 Mar 2022
Resource Spending Review Framework
Yes—I am trying to make that distinction. It is not like for like in quite the way that was set out. I turn to my other question. I am interested in the point that you make at paragraph 13 of your submission. Can you give us a bit more flavour on disaggregating data in order ...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
08 Mar 2022
Subordinate Legislation
In asking this question, I acknowledge that the year-end processes are complex at this level across this number of budget lines. That is taken as a given. We get a lot of commentary that the way in which the fiscal framework works is inefficient, and that means that there is a...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
10 Feb 2022
Budget (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I think that we can all agree that the backdrop to the budget has been extremely challenging. We have considerable uncertainty. We have talked about rapidly rising inflation, a cost of living crisis, energy price hikes and so on. Against that backdrop, we must acknowledge tha...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP Committee
26 Apr 2022
Scottish Government’s Continuous Improvement Programme
Good morning, Deputy First Minister. It took me quite a long time to get into Edinburgh today, too, so I have every sympathy with you. I want to ask about three broad areas. First, you have indicated that you are developing measures of success for the programme, but I want to...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
03 May 2022
Public Administration in the Scottish Government
I am talking about the general principle. In a report from some years ago, Westminster’s Public Administration Select Committee said that it is “a constitutional fiction” that officials in Edinburgh and London are part of a unified civil service. What general assessment have y...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
03 May 2022
Public Administration in the Scottish Government
My closing remark is that I am a bit surprised that you have not included more around organisational challenges. Someone brought up silo working, culture, risk appetite, innovation, use of technology and so on. I am conscious of time, but will you briefly tell me whether you w...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
07 Jun 2022
Economic and Fiscal Forecasts, Resource Spending Review and Medium-term Financial Strategy
Thank you for giving such a clear illustration. I think that you are making the point that nobody would choose to start from where we are, as it is an inefficient way to manage the finances. That leads me on to another issue that I found interesting when I read the spending r...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
20 Sep 2022
Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)
That would be helpful, and I know that you will carefully qualify any data that you provide. Are you aware of any overlap of outcomes that might lend themselves to consideration for streamlining from an audit perspective? Perhaps I should ask when you last audited the 129 bod...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
20 Sep 2022
Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)
I go back to your point about the immediacy of the crises from which we are lurching. We have had several: we have had Brexit and Covid and we have a cost of living crisis. In addition, there are the up-front costs, which you clearly pointed out, before we get the benefits—if ...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
20 Sep 2022
Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)
I appreciate that it is difficult. Susan Murray, you made a comment, with which I agree strongly, about there being “greater potential for using procurement as a tool to drive change.” You make a broad suggestion in your submission, but will you give us a wee bit more flav...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
20 Sep 2022
Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)
Arguably, then, you are suggesting that there should be more transparency and that there needs to be linkage to various outcomes. I do not know whether the Auditor General wants to come in on that point. It strikes me as an interesting area.
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
20 Sep 2022
Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)
My last question is on net zero targets, which the Auditor General and Susan Murray both mentioned. We know that they are already very difficult to achieve. We anticipate a fiscal event from the UK Government, which, if reports are correct, could roll back some of the commitme...
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
20 Sep 2022
Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)
Does either Charlotte Barbour or the Auditor General have anything to add?
Michelle Thomson SNP Committee
20 Sep 2022
Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)
It will be interesting.
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Meeting of the Parliament 26 February 2026 [Draft]

26 Feb 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Cost-effectiveness of Scottish Public Inquiries

There we go. Let the excitement commence!

We also talked a lot about budgets. I consider it to be absolutely fair that budget lines are phased and are signed off throughout a public inquiry. However, during our inquiry, several of us commented on the fact that there is no other area of public life where there seem to be unlimited budgets and no cost control. That is absolutely outrageous. I am sympathetic to what lawyers say about following the evidence, and it is correct to do that, but it seems to me that we have thrown up our hands and said that it is too difficult and that we do not want to upset some lawyers by introducing controls. There is no other walk of life where we would accept that. Budgets are utterly fundamental and I have been heartened by what the Deputy First Minister said.

We must also be able to publish costs. Let us be clear: some law firms have made millions and millions of pounds from the public purse and we do not know about that. That cannot be acceptable. In recommendation 223,

“we ask that public inquiries record and publish costs in a consistent manner”

and that those costs are itemised.

I am sorry for not having expended your generosity, Presiding Officer, as I now come to my final comment. The point is important because I am aware that the Deputy First Minister will not be in her current role after this session—indeed nor will I, nor Liz Smith, while the future for many other members remains to be seen. Recommendation 278

“asks the Parliament to consider adding oversight of public inquiries to an existing parliamentary committee’s remit”.

I consider that to be important. My personal judgment is that adding the public administration remit to that of the finance committee has been a great success and should continue. The cost-effectiveness of public inquiries, along with their transparency and governance, are vital, so I consider it imperative that that should happen.

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
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Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
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John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) Ind
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Kenneth Gibson SNP
John Mason makes an important point. That is one of the reasons why we are looking to have public inquiries on shorter timescales and with defined budgets. A...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I call Kate Forbes, the Deputy First Minister. You have a generous seven minutes.14:34
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
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Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Kate Forbes SNP
Generally, when a committee writes to a cabinet secretary, the cabinet secretary takes responsibility for the response. It will be carefully considered by of...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I understand what the Deputy First Minister is saying, but Mr Marra has asked an important question. If there is to be radical change, as the committee has s...
Kate Forbes SNP
It is a general, long-standing protocol that ministers should not disclose their conversations at Cabinet, so I am trying to recognise that. I can reassure m...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I cannot wait. Laughter.
Kate Forbes SNP
I was going to say at the outset, before the interventions, that I want to put on record that my written response to the committee and my contribution today ...
John Mason Ind
Will the Deputy First Minister give way?
Kate Forbes SNP
I will, because I love a good debate.
John Mason Ind
The Deputy First Minister says that she does not want to interfere in existing public inquiries—which is fair enough—but we started a new one yesterday, and ...
Kate Forbes SNP
I think that Jenny Gilruth might have alluded to this yesterday—if she did not, I hope that this is not breaking news—but we want to ensure that any new inqu...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Kate Forbes SNP
Why not? I will give way to Michelle Thomson.
Michelle Thomson SNP
I think that I just beat Craig Hoy to it in making an intervention. John Mason has made a valid comment. In addition to having a tightly drawn scope, which I...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Deputy First Minister, I can give you the time back.
Kate Forbes SNP
I have some sympathy with the point about maximum transparency in the publication of costs. There will be some areas that are more sensitive than others in t...
Craig Hoy Con
The minister had moved on from it slightly, but I will go back to the issue of costs, and specifically to the case that we heard about from the Scottish Poli...
Kate Forbes SNP
Those issues certainly need to be taken into account in the annual budget debates, and there should also be a recognition of the costs that the police face. ...
Kenneth Gibson SNP
Will the minister take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
I hate to let the convener down, but I probably need to make some progress. I will do that first, and then if the Presiding Officer is feeling generous—
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I reassure you, Deputy First Minister, that we have adequate time in hand, so you can take another intervention, if you are so minded.
Kate Forbes SNP
In that case, I would love to take another intervention from the convener.
Kenneth Gibson SNP
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Kate Forbes SNP
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Kenneth Gibson SNP
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