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Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Nov 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome the opportunity to speak on the bill in my capacity as convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. It is a short bill with two main purposes. On the face of it, it appears to be quite limited in scope and, to some extent, it was presented t...
Karen Adam SNP Chamber
25 Nov 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We did not doubt that withdrawal is happening—there is evidence that it is. I was referring to the specific and particular data that we wanted to see in order to know and understand the issue a bit better. We have asked the Scottish Government to look into providing us with th...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP Chamber
17 Feb 2026
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill
The bill is about children’s rights showing up in the real world—in the school day and in the decisions that adults make that can change how a young person experiences their education.Parents have had a long-standing right to withdraw a child from religious observance. The bil...
The Convener (Karen Adam) SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, and welcome to the 21st meeting in 2025, in session 6, of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. Agenda item 1 is our first evidence session on the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotla...
The Convener (Karen Adam) SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Good morning and welcome to the 30th meeting in 2025 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee in session 6. We have received no apologies this morning. Our first and only agenda item is stage 2 consideration of the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Educa...
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Welcome back. I welcome the second panel of witnesses: Dr Alejandro Sanchez is the human rights lead for the National Secular Society and Fraser Sutherland is the chief executive officer of the Humanist Society Scotland. Thank you for joining us. We will move straight to quest...
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome to the meeting our third panel of witnesses. We are joined in person by Dr Conor Hill and Melissa Murray, both of whom are lecturers in law at Glasgow Caledonian University; Professor Angela O’Hagan, chair, and Caitlin Fitzgerald, legal and policy co-ordinator, UNCRC...
The Convener SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We are going to move on to discuss part 2 of the bill. However, before we do that, what is your opinion on the fact that part of the bill amends the Education Act 1980, which is a UK act, and it will not be possible to challenge a breach of the amendments under the 2024 act, a...
Karen Adam SNP Chamber
25 Nov 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will come to that point in my speech. The difference between religious observance and religious and moral education did come up in committee.
The Convener SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Our next agenda item is taking evidence on the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill. This is our second evidence session on the bill, and this morning we will hear from two panels of witnesses. I welcome our ...
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Under item 2, the committee will hold its final evidence session on the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill. I welcome Jenny Gilruth, the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills. She is accompanied by Lewi...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP Chamber
08 May 2025
Victory in Europe Day (80th Anniversary)
Eighty years ago, the world exhaled when the guns across Europe fell silent, because VE day marked not just victory but our survival—a freedom reclaimed and a future made possible. This day always brings me back to my grandfather—my Pa—who fought in the war. When I was a wee ...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP Chamber
29 May 2025
Bosnian Genocide in Srebrenica (30th Anniversary)
I thank my colleague Michelle Thomson for bringing this vitally important motion before the Parliament. The 30th anniversary of the genocide in Srebrenica is not only a time to mourn the 8,372 lives lost; it is a time to reflect on the responsibilities that we carry as parlia...
The Convener (Karen Adam) SNP Committee
17 Jun 2025
Decisions on Taking Business in Private
Good morning, and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2025, in session 6, of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have received no apologies. Under our first agenda item, we will take a decision on whether to take agenda items 5 to 8 in private. Agenda item...
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you all very much. We will move on to questions from Paul McLennan.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Leah Rivka has indicated that she would like to come in as well.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Before I bring in Maggie Chapman, Rhoda Grant would like to ask a supplementary question.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Before we move on to questions from Rhoda Grant, I just want to say that we had earmarked an hour for this evidence session. We have now hit the hour mark and we still have more questions, so I ask members and witnesses to please be succinct.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you very much. That concludes our questions for the first panel. I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow the witnesses to change over. 10:11 Meeting suspended. 10:13 On resuming—
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We now have questions from Maggie Chapman.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I seek clarification on something that you mentioned, Fraser. You said that you would prefer that RME was not included in the bill, but then you praised RME. The legislation will allow a child to opt in to that.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In the first place.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you for that clarification.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That concludes the evidence session. I thank the witnesses for their participation. We will suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a change of witnesses. 10:48 Meeting suspended. 10:53 On resuming—
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Absolutely. Professor O’Hagan, can you tell us about your experience of how the right to withdraw currently works in schools?
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Absolutely. Thank you. 11:00
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Rachel, would you like to come in?
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That was helpful. Thank you. We move to questions from Paul McLennan.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We move to questions from Pam Gosal.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I think that Rachel Fox would like to say something on that.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Would anyone else like to come in on that point?
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. We will now move to questions from Maggie Chapman.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We will come on to part 2 of the bill and have more time to get into it. Marie McNair has some questions on that. We now have questions from Tess White, still on part 1 of the bill, then we will move to part 2.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We move to questions about part 2 of the bill.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I think that Caitlin Fitzgerald wants to come in.
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Are you aware of any evidence that the additional exemption to the compatibility duty is required?
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That brings our witness session to a close this morning—well, it is afternoon now. Thank you all for attending. We will now move into private to discuss the remaining items on our agenda. 12:17 Meeting continued in private until 12:33.
The Convener SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We will move to questions from Maggie Chapman.
The Convener SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I appreciate the dry and technical nature of the points that the witnesses have made today, but it is important that we get them on the record. I say to Gina Wilson that, if she wants to send us the amendments that she referred to, we would appreciate it, as it would allow us ...
The Convener SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That brings our first session to a close. I thank all our witnesses for attending. I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow a changeover of witnesses. 10:41 Meeting suspended.   10:45 On resuming—
The Convener SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome our second panel of witnesses. Dr Douglas Hutchison is executive director of education at Glasgow City Council and is representing the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland, and Susan Quinn is the convener of the education committee at the Educational Ins...
The Convener SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We have questions from Marie McNair, who is joining us remotely.
The Convener SNP Committee
07 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That concludes our questions. Thank you once again for joining us. We will discuss the remaining items on our agenda in private. 11:32 Meeting continued in private until 12:23.
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As you said in your opening statement, we have heard from a wide range of witnesses in the past few weeks. For various reasons, they have been quite critical of the bill. What is your response to that? Can you give those witnesses any assurances that the bill, in its current f...
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We will now have questions from Pam Gosal.
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We now go back to questions from Paul McLennan.
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Before we move on to part 2 of the bill, I ask whether members are content that they have asked everything that they wish to ask on part 1. Members can always come in at the end, but I want to ensure that we have finished with questions on part 1 and that we make a distinction...
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Cabinet secretary, some witnesses have suggested that part 2 of the bill is so distinct and different from part 1 that it should not be in the bill. What are your views on that?
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Oct 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
If members are content that they have asked everything that they wish to, that concludes our questions. I thank the cabinet secretary for joining us this morning. That brings the public part of our meeting to a conclusion. We will now move into private session to consider the...
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 9, in the name of Maggie Chapman, is grouped with amendments 9A, 10 to 14, 20, 15 to 17, 44 and 19.
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I draw members’ attention to the procedural information in relation to the amendments in this group, as is set out in the groupings. I call Tess White to move amendment 9A and to speak to all amendments in the group.
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I call Maggie Chapman to wind up.
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I call Tess White to wind up and press or withdraw amendment 9A.
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The question is, that amendment 9A be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
There will be a division. For Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Against Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and...
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0. Amendment 9A disagreed to.
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I call Maggie Chapman to press or withdraw amendment 9.
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The question is, that amendment 9 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2025
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
There will be a division. For Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Against Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con) O’Kane, Paul (West Sco...
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Meeting of the Parliament 25 November 2025

25 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Adam, Karen SNP Banffshire and Buchan Coast Watch on SPTV

I welcome the opportunity to speak on the bill in my capacity as convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee.

It is a short bill with two main purposes. On the face of it, it appears to be quite limited in scope and, to some extent, it was presented to the committee as a technical bill. It has, however, been an immensely challenging bill for the committee to consider. There was not one stakeholder whom we heard from who offered unreserved support for it. As I will return to at the end of my speech, ultimately, a majority of members have decided to recommend support for the general principles of the bill, but it has not been an easy decision to reach, and a minority of members have either been unable to make a recommendation on the general principles or do not support them.

Irrespective of the view that we came to on the bill, we all recognise that there are many serious concerns about it. If the bill progresses to stage 2 today, it will have to be amended to respond to those concerns.

Moreover, since we reported, the United Kingdom Supreme Court has issued its judgment in relation to withdrawal from religious education in Northern Ireland. I appreciate that the judgment is specific to the education system in Northern Ireland, but we nonetheless welcome the cabinet secretary’s letter noting that the Scottish Government is confident that the judgment does not impact on the bill.

Significant concerns were expressed to us about parts 1 and 2 of the bill. Currently, parents and carers have the legal right to withdraw children from religious observance and religious and moral education. We heard that there is a general impression that the numbers of withdrawals from religious observance and religious and moral education are low. However, the committee found that there is very little information on the numbers of withdrawals, nor is there any information available to us on what the children who are withdrawn from religious observance and religious and moral education do during the lessons from which they are withdrawn.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-19866, in the name of Jenny Gilruth, on the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment o...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
I am pleased to present the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill. The bill is an importan...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Liberal Democrats will support the bill tonight, but we share the considerable concerns of stakeholders in the chamber and beyond it about part 2 and the Gov...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I will come on to talk about part 2 later, but I recognise that there are a number of different views, particularly about part 2 and on stakeholders’ views. ...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I am happy to give way to Mr Whitfield.
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary, given the plethora of choice that she had. The cabinet secretary has already spoken about the complexity between edu...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
The Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee raised and reported on that point. The 1980 act does not currently separate those two distinct parts...
Stephen Kerr Con
If we could go back to the issue of the rights of the child for a moment, I understand that that is a focus of the cabinet secretary’s speech, but she said t...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I do not necessarily follow Mr Kerr’s line of questioning. The amendment to the 1980 act that is being proposed does not allow children an independent right ...
Martin Whitfield Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I am mindful of the time, Presiding Officer, but I will do so.
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for giving so much time to interventions. Does the Scottish Government recognise that the potential of the exemption t...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I thank Mr Whitfield for his question. In relation to the exemption being replicated in other legislation, it is important to note that a similar safeguard a...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I would like to make some progress, but I am happy to take interventions in closing. Those organisations, as well as children and young people, have been br...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Karen Adam, on behalf of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. 14:37
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak on the bill in my capacity as convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. It is a short bill wi...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) Ind
The member is linking religious observance and religious education, but questions have previously been raised about that. Did the committee look at that poin...
Karen Adam SNP
I will come to that point in my speech. The difference between religious observance and religious and moral education did come up in committee.
Stephen Kerr Con
The convener said that there is little or no data on withdrawals. Did the committee have any concerns about that? Why would we legislate in an area on which ...
Karen Adam SNP
We did not doubt that withdrawal is happening—there is evidence that it is. I was referring to the specific and particular data that we wanted to see in orde...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Does Karen Adam recognise that capacity is defined in several different age brackets by various acts of this Parliament? I have sought to clarify that and br...
Karen Adam SNP
It is not a committee bill—it is a Scottish Government bill. We had a great deal of discussion on the age at which a child could have capacity, but the major...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
The cabinet secretary opened her comments by saying that the issue is finely balanced and sensitive and that the Government has looked for a middle route. Ho...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Miles Briggs Con
I will.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I am interested in Mr Briggs’s point, because our approach maintains that only parents may initiate a withdrawal from RO or RME. Mr Briggs also mentioned con...
Miles Briggs Con
I do not disagree with some of the points that the cabinet secretary has made. The issue is about balance. Earlier, she outlined a system of opt-in and opt-o...