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Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
20 Jan 2026
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
As in the stage 1 debate, I thank the committee clerks, the witnesses, the ministers—former and present—and the officials. I also thank my fellow committee members for their work in scrutinising the bill. As members can imagine, there was more work to be done as we moved from ...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
01 Mar 2022
Eating Disorders Awareness Week 2022
How can I follow the powerful speeches by Oliver Mundell and Emma Harper? I will try. I am pleased to participate in this members’ business debate, brought to the chamber by my colleague Emma Harper, highlighting eating disorder awareness week. I thank her for bringing this i...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 Mar 2024
Addressing Child Poverty Through Parental Employment
At the heart of the committee’s report is a recognition that, if we want to tackle child poverty through parental employment, a wide range of interventions needs to be available, because we cannot focus on just one. As Bob Doris said, Dumfries and Galloway Council covered that...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
22 May 2025
Tall Ships Races 2025 (Aberdeen)
As you can see, Presiding Officer, I am not Kevin Stewart. He has asked me to lead his debate and to pass on his apologies for not being here today, due to his illness. I am sure that the chamber will join me in wishing him a speedy recovery. The following are his words, and ...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Chamber
25 Sep 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am at a bit of a loss about why that intervention was needed. I will always speak up for young folk. As I was saying, let us take the example of the building industry. Just now, the funding to train architects and town planners comes from one organisation, the Scottish Fun...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Chamber
20 Jan 2026
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I welcome the minister’s amendments, which take us as far as we can go on fair work with our devolved powers. I understand the points that Stephen Kerr is making, but his amendment would narrow the functions of the SFC and unhelpfully limit the purpose of post-school training ...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
14 Dec 2021
Community Defibrillators
I thank Jenni Minto for bringing the motion for debate and congratulate her on her personal and powerful speech. I know how close the subject is to her, as I first met her at a British Heart Foundation round-table event during the election campaign. That day, I saw someone who...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
28 Apr 2022
Global Intergenerational Week 2022
I thank colleagues across the chamber for their cross-party support, and I thank in advance the folk who are taking part in the debate. I also thank Kate Samuels from Generations Working Together for the help that she has provided to me. Intergenerational week first took plac...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
04 Jun 2024
Health and Social Care
The NHS in Scotland—our publicly owned, publicly run, free-at-the-point-of-use national health service—is one of our country’s greatest assets. For more than seven decades, it has served Scotland through thick and thin, even in a pandemic, looking after folk from the cradle to...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning. On the national training programmes, the policy intention of the bill seems to be to simplify the skills landscape by consolidating further and higher education and apprenticeship funding. The committee has heard concerns that if it does that, less priority might...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
11 Nov 2025
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
For clarity, you said that the option to opt in would be offered at the beginning of someone’s medical training. Do you foresee having an opt-out option, if someone changed their mind as their training went on and they had experience of dealing with day-to-day situations? Whet...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Committee
03 Dec 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
My understanding is that the term “work-based learning” is intended to cover all types of activities currently undertaken as foundation apprenticeships. However, the definition of work-based learning in the bill would not cover all foundation apprenticeships. Only Scottish cre...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Chamber
18 Nov 2021
Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Question Time
Mobilisation of reservists can sometimes happen at short notice, leaving employers with unplanned training and recruitment costs. The Ministry of Defence acknowledges that and reflects it in the form of compensation provided to non-public sector employers. Would the SPCB consi...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Jan 2022
My Breath is My Life
I am very proud to bring this members’ business debate to the chamber tonight. I thank everyone for the cross-party support that has ensured that the debate can take place. In Scotland, around 368,000 people are being treated for asthma, including more than 72,000 children. T...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
17 Mar 2022
Active Travel
I am pleased to take part in today’s Scottish Government debate on delivering on active travel commitments and recognising the important investment that our Government is making in our communities and the benefit that it will have to our constituents. It is the Scottish Gove...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
22 Mar 2022
Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero
Simon Hewitt said that we need to blur the lines of who is responsible for what in education and training. I could not agree more. I said earlier that education on the subject should be started at primary school level. What are local authorities doing to work with you to make ...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
22 Mar 2022
Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero
Chris Brodie mentioned that we need more folk to move back to work and that we need more routes for training, upskilling and retraining. I have a really simple question. What do you mean by retraining? Is it about folk who are already in an industry or folk who are coming into...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
29 Mar 2022
P&O Ferries
How long do you think the training will take?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Chamber
14 Mar 2023
Net Zero: Local Government and Cross-sectoral Partners
Well, the UK Government has taken £300 billion from the north-east of Scotland through the Treasury since the 1970s, if you are going to start matching funds, Mr Kerr. I call on the UK Government to play its role in ensuring that we achieve a just transition and to match the ...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Chamber
16 Mar 2023
Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I absolutely agree with Emma Harper. Young folk on remand should be allowed access to the activities that the general prison population of young people have access to. I would welcome the cabinet secretary’s comments on whether he agrees with us, which he might provide in his ...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
23 Nov 2023
Portfolio Question Time · Circular Economy (Wind Turbine Decommissioning)
Can the minister give an update on how the Scottish Government is supporting the enhancement skills and training provision to help to deliver on the needs of the wind industry and achieve a circular economy?
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
05 Mar 2024
Eating Disorders Awareness Week 2024
I congratulate my friend and colleague Emma Harper on securing a debate on this very important subject, and I commend Elena Whitham for her very moving personal contribution. It is very welcome that, during eating disorders awareness week 2024, we have this dedicated time in ...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Feb 2025
Budget (Scotland) (No 4) Bill
I am very pleased to support this budget. From speaking with my constituents, I think that it is a budget that they support, too, because it invests in the things that they care most about. It maintains the SNP’s most popular policies and demonstrates our clear ambition to mov...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
04 Mar 2025
Scotland’s Renewable Future
I seem to be speaking a lot about energy recently, and that is not just in the scheduled debates. Energy bills are a pressing concern for folk right across Scotland. Thousands upon thousands of folk are struggling to pay them, and many who would have been comfortable just a fe...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Chamber
23 Apr 2025
Global Intergenerational Week 2025
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer—my apologies for confusing you by sitting in a different seat tonight. I thank all my colleagues across the chamber who signed my motion on global intergenerational week 2025, and I thank in advance those members who will take part in the d...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, and thank you for attending. The responses to the call for views were generally supportive of the proposals to move support for further education students to the Student Awards Agency Scotland. What do you see as the main impacts of that change?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes—to SAAS.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I wanted to know whether you feel that there are any positive or negative impacts of streamlining the process so that it is under one body.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Professor Seaton, do you have any views on that?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Okay—thank you.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As I did with the first panel, I will ask a couple of questions about college student support. Some responses to the call for views raised concerns about the ability of the SAAS systems to cope with further student support responsibilities. My question is for Catherine Topley....
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Martin, what is the SFC doing to ensure that there will be no problems with the responsibilities that will be passed to SAAS?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You have touched on the other question that I was going to ask. Concerns were also raised around the model of delivery for further education student support. Some responses said that colleges might have less flexibility in delivery. What are your views on that? How will the de...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So you do not see any changes to the way in which colleges deliver.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
07 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Martin, have you anything to add?
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
Good morning. The policy intention is to consolidate funding of apprenticeships with that of further and higher education in order to simplify the skills landscape, but we have heard concerns that that might mean that apprenticeships will have less priority, given the relative...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
If you had a magic wand, what would be the one thing that you would put in the bill?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
Thank you. Jon Vincent, would you like to respond?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
I was asking about the policy intention to consolidate the funding for apprenticeships with that for further and higher education, because we have heard concerns that it could mean apprenticeships being given less of a priority. What are your views on that?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
Would you like businesses to have a bigger say in the types of apprenticeships that go forward? I know that I am straying slightly from the issue, but that is what I am hearing from you, and I do not want to put words into your mouth.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
Last week, the committee heard concerns about the cost of changing how apprenticeships are delivered, under the new bill. Will that be expensive? What are your views on that?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
Sir Paul, do you want to come in or will I pass back to the convener?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
Good morning. As I said to the first panel of witnesses, the policy intention is to consolidate the funding of apprenticeships with further and higher education to simplify the skills landscape. As you have heard, the committee has heard concerns that that might mean that appr...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
Are you saying that you do not want the system to be consolidated, and that you want it kept as it is? What is your view? You are saying that this is about funding, but if the consolidation goes ahead, would you be for it or against it? Do you feel that the system works the wa...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
That is why I asked the question.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
So more information would be extremely useful.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
I asked earlier about the cost of changes to the apprenticeship delivery aim, as proposed in the bill. We heard some figures last week. Do you think that they will cost a huge amount? If so, why?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
Sort of.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
14 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
It is a difficult question to answer. At the end of the day, for me it is about trying to get the best for students and small businesses. Phiona, do you have anything to add or can I hand back to the convener?
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Mr Davenport, you answered my first question during your opening remarks, so unless you have something to add, I will give you a bye on this one. I will come to Ms Jackson first, and then Mr Lewis. As a result of the changes that are proposed in the bill, it looks as though t...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you mean that the various teams would have to be fitted in like jigsaw pieces?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Can I stop you there? What do you think will be needed to ensure that the transition is successful? I am giving you a chance to say what you think will be needed in order to make the transition successful. 09:30
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. Mr Davenport, is there anything extra that you would like to add?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Okay. In that case, I will go on to my next question.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My next question is for Ms Collins and then Ms Senior; it is about college student support. What do you think of the Scottish Government’s intention of moving further education student support from the SFC to SAAS? Are you assured that the current delivery model will be retain...
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So you are not assured at all.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. What about you, Ms Senior?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have finished, convener.
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Would consolidating the funding make things worse for women?
Jackie Dunbar SNP Committee
21 May 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Will apprenticeships be given less priority?
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 20 January 2026 [Draft]

20 Jan 2026 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

As in the stage 1 debate, I thank the committee clerks, the witnesses, the ministers—former and present—and the officials. I also thank my fellow committee members for their work in scrutinising the bill. As members can imagine, there was more work to be done as we moved from the general principles of the bill to the nitty-gritty, so I add a little more thanks to reflect that.

I am disappointed—but not surprised—that some members are not supporting the bill. I am not surprised, because, in the two years that I have been on the committee, I do not think that Labour has yet supported a stage 1 general principles report. It does not matter what the subject of a bill is—Labour will amend it a great deal, but it will not support it.

However, I will repeat what I said at the start of my stage 1 speech on the bill. So often in the chamber, we talk about Scotland’s future and building a better country for the next generation. The bill is not just about building a future for the next generation but about ensuring that they have the skills and knowledge to build their own future.

Of course, the bill is not only about young folk. There are plenty of people who enter or re-enter tertiary education and training later in life for all sorts of reasons. Goodness knows that there are plenty of people in the Aberdeen area who have had to reskill and retrain in recent years, first because of the downturn that was caused by oil prices being too low and then because of the downturn that was caused by the windfall tax because oil prices were briefly too high.

Thankfully, the Scottish Government has stepped up to support training and retraining in our city, not least through its oil and gas transition training fund and by helping to fund North East Scotland College’s energy transition skills hub. That means that, whether the workers in my Aberdeen Donside constituency work in oil and gas or in renewables, they will continue to have the skills that are needed to power our nation and economy.

Let us get back to the bill that is in front of us. The bill will ensure that funding goes where it matters most: to supporting skills, to driving innovation, to ensuring that our economy has the talented workforce that it needs and to giving every learner the opportunity to thrive. Our colleges, universities and other training providers are tasked with equipping people—whether they are young people who are leaving school or those who want to retrain and take a new path—with the skills and qualifications that they can use to find their way in life, whether they use those to find a good-quality, well-paid job, to establish their own business or even to find a voluntary role. Folk want to contribute to our economy and to our society. The bill will help them to get the skills that they need.

Colleges, universities, apprenticeships and other training all help folk to improve their skill set. Therefore, it seems appropriate that I should talk about how the bill has itself been improved since it was first introduced. I will list some of the amendments that have been included in the bill. The bill now allows for a review of the credit-based funding model for colleges. There will now be a requirement for governing body members and senior officers at institutions to declare conflicts of interest.

More will be done to ensure that further and higher education institutions operate with transparency and accountability as a condition of funding. More will be done to protect whistleblowers and to ensure that there is better engagement with trade unions and students. New powers will also be introduced for the SFC to limit fees for apprenticeship managing agents.

Let us get on with it. Let us get the bill passed. Let us modernise how money gets to colleges, universities and training providers. Let us ensure that folk can get the skills and training that they need. Let us support our learners to better themselves so that they can go on to build a better Scotland.

20:34  

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Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
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Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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The Presiding Officer NPA
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Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
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Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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