Chamber
Plenary, 03 Dec 2009
03 Dec 2009 · S3 · Plenary
Item of business
Getting it Right for Every Child
The Scottish Conservatives warmly welcome today's debate on getting it right for every child and the continued programme of work to improve services for vulnerable children in Scotland. No one can deny that those issues deserve a united approach from all the political parties.
GIRFEC is crucial because it promotes certain key principles: the development of a much more local approach to policy making that better reflects the needs of the local community; improved communication between the different agencies that are involved in caring for vulnerable children; much greater consistency in the team that looks after each child; a reduction in the bureaucracy—on which the minister has given us good evidence today—that accompanies the process; and an end to the wide regional variations in the quality of care that is offered.
Therefore, I am particularly pleased to welcome the report on the results of the Highland pathfinder GIRFEC project, especially the progress that has been made on measuring outcomes much more effectively, making improvements in professional practice with better multi-agency working, and developing a more holistic approach to the needs of the child—something that we all agree is one of the most important issues.
There are extremely encouraging signs that those better approaches have led to a reduction in the number of children on the child protection register and an improvement in the educational attainment of the weakest-performing children. Better-integrated planning has meant that a wider range of needs can be met, with a greater emphasis on engaging with young people and more help on handling the transition from care into adult life—a process that can often be fraught with many difficulties.
In turn, there are signs that parents and children feel much more integrated in the process, such that there is growing confidence in the system. As a result of the different agencies speaking a common language, people are more aware of when things are happening and what the processes are likely to involve. Perhaps the most encouraging signs are the likely reductions in cost if problems can be detected at the earliest possible point.
As Karen Whitefield said, although much can be learnt from the progress in Highland, more needs to be done elsewhere, especially in areas that are showing an increase in the number of registrations. We need to pay particular attention to the harrowing cases that are referred before the child is born, and we must not lose sight of the fact that the number of looked-after children has increased every year since 2001.
The GIRFEC evaluation report recognises that change will take time, but central to making that happen is ensuring that staff who are involved in the care of children are engaged in the process of change, even if that means a slight shift in the culture of what is best practice in child care. Staff must be properly supported. I note that the workload of and burden of paperwork for health visitors and school nurses would be greatly reduced by the introduction of an electronic version of the paper record that was used in the Highland area. That is good news. Additionally, in a period when local authorities are financially stretched, the Scottish Conservatives maintain that far more must be done to utilise the work of the excellent voluntary sector, which is often staffed by people who are closest to the needs of our communities.
A key part of the process will be the reform of the children's hearings system. The Scottish Conservatives welcome the Government's decision to delay the progress of the children's hearing's bill due to apparent flaws in the initial consultation process. We hope that the information that is provided by the minister in the intervening period will help us to address the issues so that we can consider ways of strengthening the system without, as Karen Whitefield said, losing the central ethos that was set out in the Kilbrandon report.
Children's hearings have traditionally brought many benefits to our Scottish justice system, but it is clear that there are issues that relate to representation at hearings and the fact that panel members do not always feel fully supported by their local authority. Credibility within the system is not as strong as it should be, and much more needs to be done to enhance the public's knowledge and understanding of children's hearings and to ensure a more holistic approach by involving the various professional agencies effectively.
It is vital that we respond to the main messages from the recent HMIE report that looked at inspections across Scotland. It found that around a quarter of inspections revealed serious weaknesses in aspects of child protection that increased the risk of harm to children. It is not satisfactory that serious problems were identified in 10 council areas. That shows that much work remains to be done. Improvements are needed in the quality and rigour of assessments and in planning. As we all know, the consequences of such deficiencies can be life threatening. The Scottish Government has stated that it is working with the local authorities that have been criticised to ensure that urgent action is taken. It was good to hear the minister update us on progress, and I look forward to hearing more on the community planning partners.
Members are well aware that, for the Scottish Conservatives, parenting skills remain at the heart of the continuing problems to do with looking after Scottish children. Family breakdown of one sort or another costs the United Kingdom more than £20 billion a year, and the resulting burden on society, especially on relatives, social work services and our justice system, goes much, much deeper than that. Only this week, key children's charities have produced some disturbing statistics.
We are pleased that the debate is being held and are pleased to support the Scottish Government's motion and the Labour Party's amendment.
GIRFEC is crucial because it promotes certain key principles: the development of a much more local approach to policy making that better reflects the needs of the local community; improved communication between the different agencies that are involved in caring for vulnerable children; much greater consistency in the team that looks after each child; a reduction in the bureaucracy—on which the minister has given us good evidence today—that accompanies the process; and an end to the wide regional variations in the quality of care that is offered.
Therefore, I am particularly pleased to welcome the report on the results of the Highland pathfinder GIRFEC project, especially the progress that has been made on measuring outcomes much more effectively, making improvements in professional practice with better multi-agency working, and developing a more holistic approach to the needs of the child—something that we all agree is one of the most important issues.
There are extremely encouraging signs that those better approaches have led to a reduction in the number of children on the child protection register and an improvement in the educational attainment of the weakest-performing children. Better-integrated planning has meant that a wider range of needs can be met, with a greater emphasis on engaging with young people and more help on handling the transition from care into adult life—a process that can often be fraught with many difficulties.
In turn, there are signs that parents and children feel much more integrated in the process, such that there is growing confidence in the system. As a result of the different agencies speaking a common language, people are more aware of when things are happening and what the processes are likely to involve. Perhaps the most encouraging signs are the likely reductions in cost if problems can be detected at the earliest possible point.
As Karen Whitefield said, although much can be learnt from the progress in Highland, more needs to be done elsewhere, especially in areas that are showing an increase in the number of registrations. We need to pay particular attention to the harrowing cases that are referred before the child is born, and we must not lose sight of the fact that the number of looked-after children has increased every year since 2001.
The GIRFEC evaluation report recognises that change will take time, but central to making that happen is ensuring that staff who are involved in the care of children are engaged in the process of change, even if that means a slight shift in the culture of what is best practice in child care. Staff must be properly supported. I note that the workload of and burden of paperwork for health visitors and school nurses would be greatly reduced by the introduction of an electronic version of the paper record that was used in the Highland area. That is good news. Additionally, in a period when local authorities are financially stretched, the Scottish Conservatives maintain that far more must be done to utilise the work of the excellent voluntary sector, which is often staffed by people who are closest to the needs of our communities.
A key part of the process will be the reform of the children's hearings system. The Scottish Conservatives welcome the Government's decision to delay the progress of the children's hearing's bill due to apparent flaws in the initial consultation process. We hope that the information that is provided by the minister in the intervening period will help us to address the issues so that we can consider ways of strengthening the system without, as Karen Whitefield said, losing the central ethos that was set out in the Kilbrandon report.
Children's hearings have traditionally brought many benefits to our Scottish justice system, but it is clear that there are issues that relate to representation at hearings and the fact that panel members do not always feel fully supported by their local authority. Credibility within the system is not as strong as it should be, and much more needs to be done to enhance the public's knowledge and understanding of children's hearings and to ensure a more holistic approach by involving the various professional agencies effectively.
It is vital that we respond to the main messages from the recent HMIE report that looked at inspections across Scotland. It found that around a quarter of inspections revealed serious weaknesses in aspects of child protection that increased the risk of harm to children. It is not satisfactory that serious problems were identified in 10 council areas. That shows that much work remains to be done. Improvements are needed in the quality and rigour of assessments and in planning. As we all know, the consequences of such deficiencies can be life threatening. The Scottish Government has stated that it is working with the local authorities that have been criticised to ensure that urgent action is taken. It was good to hear the minister update us on progress, and I look forward to hearing more on the community planning partners.
Members are well aware that, for the Scottish Conservatives, parenting skills remain at the heart of the continuing problems to do with looking after Scottish children. Family breakdown of one sort or another costs the United Kingdom more than £20 billion a year, and the resulting burden on society, especially on relatives, social work services and our justice system, goes much, much deeper than that. Only this week, key children's charities have produced some disturbing statistics.
We are pleased that the debate is being held and are pleased to support the Scottish Government's motion and the Labour Party's amendment.
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Alasdair Morgan):
SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S3M-5335, in the name of Adam Ingram, on getting it right for every child.
The Minister for Children and Early Years (Adam Ingram):
SNP
There is no more important task than ensuring that we get it right for Scotland's children. They are part of our society now, and they will mould the way in ...
Karen Whitefield (Airdrie and Shotts) (Lab):
Lab
I welcome this important debate. There is nothing in the Government's motion with which I or my Labour colleagues disagree. However, we feel that a number of...
Elizabeth Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con):
Con
The Scottish Conservatives warmly welcome today's debate on getting it right for every child and the continued programme of work to improve services for vuln...
Margaret Smith (Edinburgh West) (LD):
LD
I welcome the opportunity to speak in a debate that enables Liberal Democrats to restate our support for the GIRFEC agenda. As others have done, I commend th...
Angela Constance (Livingston) (SNP):
SNP
On balance, I agree with the Aberlour Child Care Trust's conclusions on the evaluation of GIRFEC so far. It states in its briefing that much has been achieve...
David Whitton (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (Lab):
Lab
First, I apologise in advance for having to leave the chamber after my speech in order to attend another meeting.My colleague Karen Whitefield outlined Labou...
Ian McKee (Lothians) (SNP):
SNP
No member in the chamber will argue against the principles of getting it right for every child—who can sensibly take an opposing view? However, it is one thi...
Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab):
Lab
I welcome the opportunity to participate in the debate and discuss the motion. Members are right to highlight the progress that has been made, but we must re...
Adam Ingram:
SNP
Will the member give way?
Duncan McNeil:
Lab
Yes, but I ask the minister to be quick. I do not have as much time as he has.
Adam Ingram:
SNP
At the moment, early identification and intervention are not embedded in our systems. That is what we hope GIRFEC will do if it is implemented throughout the...
Duncan McNeil:
Lab
We live in hope but at this point we cannot ignore the SCRA's hard, hard messages.The SCRA report also highlights specific issues about the power of child pr...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con):
Con
I am pleased to speak in this afternoon's debate and welcome the Highland GIRFEC report's measuring of outcomes, putting the child's needs at the heart of de...
Christina McKelvie (Central Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
The amendment states:"almost half of the 30 councils inspected were assessed as weak or unsatisfactory in relation to the assessment of risks and needs".Elev...
The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson):
NPA
I call Hugh Henry. You have quite a long time really, Mr Henry.
Hugh Henry (Paisley South) (Lab):
Lab
That was a dangerous exhortation, Presiding Officer.There is no doubt that, as is wider civic society in Scotland, all members are committed to the principle...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green):
Green
In the light of the reassurances that I have repeatedly received in Parliament in response to questions about home visiting, and given the figures that Mary ...
Hugh Henry:
Lab
We are duty bound to review any area of activity in which there is a sign of weakness. Home visiting is critical, because often it can pick up some of the we...
Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD):
LD
I rise in support of the motion in the name of the minister. I am heartened by the progress that has been shown in the getting it right pathfinder project in...
Mary Scanlon:
Con
Does Jamie Stone share my concern about the demise of health visiting, especially in his home town of Tain? Health visitors have provided an excellent servic...
Jamie Stone:
LD
The issue is perhaps not entirely connected to the subject of the debate, but Mary Scanlon makes a valid point. The issue will have been raised with her as m...
Jamie Hepburn (Central Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
Presiding Officer, is there still some leeway in the time that you are allocating to speeches?
The Presiding Officer:
NPA
There is a certain amount.
Jamie Hepburn:
SNP
Thank you. In that case, I will declare an interest. I recently became a father—Applause. The debate seems to have greater relevance for me than it might hav...
Ross Finnie (West of Scotland) (LD):
LD
Liberal Democrats have always supported the getting it right for every child policy. That is not surprising, because it touches on elements of Liberal philos...
The Presiding Officer:
NPA
I am afraid that I must hurry you.
Ross Finnie:
LD
The issue is highlighted in the Health and Sport Committee's report on that matter, which I hope the minister will respond to constructively. I hope that the...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con):
Con
When I saw that a debate on GIRFEC was scheduled for this afternoon, I wondered why we were having another debate on the subject just short of three months s...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab):
Lab
It has been an interesting debate, in which there have been many significant speeches by members of all parties.It seems to me that the Labour amendment acts...