Hansard

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Trish Godman): Lab

The next item of business is a debate on motion S2M-5626, in the name of Donald Gorrie, on behalf of the Procedures Committee and the Scottish Commission for...

Donald Gorrie (Central Scotland) (LD): LD

In case any member is confused, this debate is not on the issue about which the Procedures Committee wrote to the Presiding Officer to say that it was concer...

Alasdair Morgan (South of Scotland) (SNP): SNP

I am glad that the Presiding Officer urged the Deputy Minister for Justice to hurry, because I am sure that some members have much to say on this matter—alth...

Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con): Con

For Procedures Committee members, the subject has been one of the less exciting but more interesting issues that we have had to examine. I knew of the Scotti...

The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab

Margaret Smith is not here, so I call Margaret Jamieson.

Margaret Jamieson (Kilmarnock and Loudoun) (Lab): Lab

I apologise for getting a bit excited about the possibility of being unable to speak in the debate.We are debating an important issue. Many people think that...

The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab

We move to the winding-up speeches. Karen Gillon has seven minutes.

Karen Gillon (Clydesdale) (Lab): Lab

That is not funny.Here we are again in the Scottish Parliament debating significant matters of great interest to the people of Scotland. Anybody who tries to...

Alasdair Morgan: SNP

Will the member give way?

Karen Gillon: Lab

Happily.

Alasdair Morgan: SNP

Will the member comment on what the head commissioner—I assume that that is her title—said about the commission auditing the auditors? Yesterday, I replied t...

Karen Gillon: Lab

That is a very interesting point. There is always a balance to strike when deciding at what point a process should be ended. No matter what the outcome, ther...

Alex Johnstone: Con

Is it not the case that the carefully considered point that we discussed at great length when we considered the report was that while we are extending the Pa...

Karen Gillon: Lab

That is an important point. We did consider it in some detail, so that we reached a balance between the independence of the commission, its public persona an...

Phil Gallie (South of Scotland) (Con): Con

Will the member give way?

Karen Gillon: Lab

Mr Gallie is very welcome.

Phil Gallie: Con

I recognise the importance of the issue and the expertise in our auditing systems that has been referred to. Given the fact that the European Union has faile...

The Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid): NPA

Miss Gillon, you have two minutes.

Karen Gillon: Lab

I apologise to Mr Gallie; I should have borrowed the earphones that he traditionally wears in the chamber—I could not hear the middle part of his interventio...

The Presiding Officer: NPA

He did.

Karen Gillon: Lab

That must be what I missed. It is an aspect of the Parliament that will be sadly lacking after 3 May because Mr Gallie will not be here.Members are obviously...

The Presiding Officer: NPA

You have one minute more. Laughter.

Margaret Jamieson: Lab

Keep going.

Karen Gillon: Lab

Members must understand that to be confronted by a request from Margaret Jamieson—

Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab

Will the member give way?

Karen Gillon: Lab

I am in my final minute. Laughter.If a member is confronted with a request from Margaret Jamieson, they are not likely to say no. The Procedures Committee co...