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Plenary, 24 Jan 2007

24 Jan 2007 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Scottish Parliament (Disqualification) Order 2007 (Draft)
Johnstone, Alex Con North East Scotland Watch on SPTV
When I was nominated to speak in the debate, the first thing I did was look up the debate from four years ago so that I could see what it was all about. Having read the speeches from that debate, I thought at the start of George Lyon's speech that he had done exactly the same thing; I recognised the speech that Euan Robson gave four years ago. I quickly realised that George had chosen to deviate from Euan's tactic of simply explaining what the order is all about, but then I wished that George had just done what Euan did. George Lyon took the opportunity today—an inappropriate opportunity—to introduce a heated subject to a debate that Parliament should have handled relatively briefly.

In the debate four years ago, the criteria for why someone should be prevented from standing for election to the Scottish Parliament were set out clearly. It was explained:

"Those criteria are: offices of profit in the gift of the Crown or ministers; positions of control in companies in receipt of Government grants and funds; offices imposing duties that would prevent their holders from fulfilling parliamentary duties satisfactorily; and offices whose holders are required to be seen to be, and to be, politically impartial."—[Official Report, 9 January 2003; c 16792.]

That is a fair description of what we want to achieve. The fact that the list gets longer and longer—as was mentioned in the previous speech—is simply an indication that the number of people who are dependent on or beholden to the Scottish Executive gets bigger and bigger every year. That is a problem that we need to address over time.

The sad fact is that many of the people who are in the positions that have been specified are exactly the kind of people we need to be seeking entry to the Parliament. Although they are debarred from becoming members of the Scottish Parliament while in their current roles, I like to think that many of them would consider using the expertise that they have acquired in those roles to demit office and seek entry into Parliament at the next election or at a subsequent election. The one thing that I know we need is more talent.

The Conservative party will, therefore, support the order in the hope that it will lead to a stronger Parliament in the long term—one that will not suffer the criticisms that have rightly been levied upon it for the sort of mudslinging that we witnessed in the first two speeches in the debate.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Trish Godman): Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S2M-5442, in the name of George Lyon, on the draft Scottish Parliament (Disqualification) Order 2007.
The Deputy Minister for Finance, Public Service Reform and Parliamentary Business (George Lyon): LD
I begin by highlighting the unusual nature of this item of business, which relates to a wholly reserved matter that must, under the Scotland Act 1998, be con...
Alasdair Morgan (South of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
Will Mr Lyon give way?
George Lyon: LD
I will make a little headway first. I know that the deputy leader of the Scottish National Party agrees with me, as she has repeatedly stated on the record t...
Alasdair Morgan: SNP
As Mr Lyon is speaking in his capacity as a Government minister, I hope that he will confirm that the powers under the Scotland Act 1998 from which the order...
George Lyon: LD
I can confirm that that is correct. I am talking about the general principles behind the order.It is clear that someone who is expected to work in London unt...
Alasdair Morgan (South of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I suppose the best that we could say about that speech is that it was well read. I shall take no lessons on general principles from members of the Liberal De...
Nora Radcliffe (Gordon) (LD) rose— LD
Alasdair Morgan: SNP
I am not giving way.Is this the same Liberal party that thought that Donald Gorrie and Jim Wallace—and Andrew Arbuckle—could do two jobs at the same time? I ...
George Lyon rose— LD
Alasdair Morgan: SNP
No, no. We heard more than enough from Mr Lyon during his allocated time.In his challenge, Mr Bruce says that"the new law would ban MSPs from holding two job...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con): Con
When I was nominated to speak in the debate, the first thing I did was look up the debate from four years ago so that I could see what it was all about. Havi...
George Lyon: LD
This has certainly been an interesting debate. Usually, my good colleague and friend, Mr Morgan, is a calm, collected and level-headed gentleman in debates. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
Order.
George Lyon: LD
Those people should have someone who is willing to offer their full attention, full time for the full term.I ask members to lend their support by approving t...