Chamber
Plenary, 09 Nov 2006
09 Nov 2006 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Violence Against Women
I welcome the debate and I will support the Executive motion—that is a rare occurrence. I congratulate the Minister for Communities and the Deputy Minister for Communities on the wording of the motion. Too often, we talk about violence against women as if it happens in the absence of anyone else and we do not mention the men. It is hugely important that the motion refers to "male violence against women", because if we are to challenge attitudes we must describe the problem as it is: men are the perpetrators of violence against women. I understand the significance of the Executive's welcome shift in language and I think that women's organisations throughout the country will appreciate that, too. The amendment in my name is intended to complement the motion and I hope that members receive it in that way.
According to the United Nations, women face increasing violence in Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia, especially when they speak out to defend women's rights. In Liberia, 40 per cent of women and girls who were surveyed said that they had been victims of sexual violence. However, we need not travel far from the Parliament to find women who have been subjected to sexual violence and denied justice. Last year there were 900 reports of rape in Scotland but just 39 convictions—a conviction rate of 4.3 per cent. The number of reported attacks has doubled in the past 10 years, but the conviction rate has dropped, as Cathy Jamieson acknowledged on 6 March. In some areas the conviction rate is even lower. For example, none of the 20 reported rapes in Dumfries and Galloway in 2004-05 resulted in a conviction.
The Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995 and the Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Act 2002 were intended to give greater protection to women who reported rape and to improve their chances of bringing a successful prosecution. When the Lord Advocate was Solicitor General for Scotland, she announced the findings of a review of the system, which made 50 recommendations. I hope that during the debate she can give us information about progress in that regard. Research that the Scottish Executive commissioned indicated that in the three years after it was passed, the 1995 act failed to protect women who reported rape.
I welcome Elish Angiolini's commitment to reforming the system, but much more needs to be done. I have tried to flag that up in my amendment. Christine Grahame talked about the need for change. We cannot say often enough that there will have been effective change only when conviction rates start to increase. I cannot claim to be able to be more specific about what is needed, but changes need to be made, so that we can bring to justice the men who perpetrate violence against women.
It is bad enough that women are made to relive their ordeal when they come forward and that their chances of succeeding are around one in 25; what is worse is that the courts are still failing to protect innocent victims of male sexual violence from humiliation and degradation in the witness box. The Executive's own research shows that defence lawyers made verbal applications to introduce evidence of the complainer's sexual history in 23 per cent of rape cases and that 95 per cent of those applications were made spontaneously, which means that they were sprung on the complainer while she was giving evidence.
What is worse is that researchers found that sexual history evidence of the type prohibited by the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995 was introduced without application in half the rape cases heard in the High Court that the research investigated. The researchers said that the nature of the questioning and the inspection of the complainer's private life, including their medical and gynaecological histories, can be potentially humiliating and intimidating. Small wonder that the researchers also found that 62 per cent of complainers in the High Court were audibly distressed and were crying or sobbing while giving evidence. That is torture; it is cruel and inhumane treatment of women that would not be tolerated if the victims were men.
Where are the other crimes the victims of which are treated as criminals? Where are the muggers' victims who are treated as liars? Are they subjected to questioning by defence lawyers about whether they were asking for it by wearing expensive designer clothing?
On the basis of the Executive's research it is fair to conclude that about three out of four women who are brave enough to give evidence against rapists are being subjected to humiliating questions about their sex life with no protection from the courts.
Research from the United States suggests that introducing sexual history evidence lowers the chance of securing a conviction. That means that an awful lot of women's chances of securing a conviction have been compromised by the introduction of such evidence. As a result, thousands of rapists are wandering about free. As well as there being hundreds of rapists who escape justice because no prosecution is ever brought, despite a complaint being made, thousands of women never make a complaint because they know that, at best, all they face is humiliation in court with a tiny chance of conviction. Men know that they can do the crime and need never worry about doing the time.
We need to consider setting up specialist sexual violence courts of a type similar to Glasgow's domestic violence court, which I think has been effective—the signs are that it is certainly helping to address male violence. We need courts that are presided over by judges who will provide protection to women complainers; where prosecutors are determined to secure justice for rape victims; and where defence lawyers are prevented from humiliating victims. Until we have such courts, we will continue to let down women who are subjected to vile crimes against their person while letting rapists continue to believe that they can get off.
I ask members to support my amendment, which recognises that we still need effective change. I hope that there is consensus on that throughout the chamber.
I move amendment S2M-5109.1, to insert at end:
"and, in so doing, expresses continuing concern at the despairingly low conviction rates for rape and sexual offences and the continuing humiliation that the majority of women complainants face through the courts allowing examination of victims' sexual history and character, and believes that the efforts of the Executive to address male violence against women must be supported by effective change in the criminal justice system."
According to the United Nations, women face increasing violence in Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia, especially when they speak out to defend women's rights. In Liberia, 40 per cent of women and girls who were surveyed said that they had been victims of sexual violence. However, we need not travel far from the Parliament to find women who have been subjected to sexual violence and denied justice. Last year there were 900 reports of rape in Scotland but just 39 convictions—a conviction rate of 4.3 per cent. The number of reported attacks has doubled in the past 10 years, but the conviction rate has dropped, as Cathy Jamieson acknowledged on 6 March. In some areas the conviction rate is even lower. For example, none of the 20 reported rapes in Dumfries and Galloway in 2004-05 resulted in a conviction.
The Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995 and the Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Act 2002 were intended to give greater protection to women who reported rape and to improve their chances of bringing a successful prosecution. When the Lord Advocate was Solicitor General for Scotland, she announced the findings of a review of the system, which made 50 recommendations. I hope that during the debate she can give us information about progress in that regard. Research that the Scottish Executive commissioned indicated that in the three years after it was passed, the 1995 act failed to protect women who reported rape.
I welcome Elish Angiolini's commitment to reforming the system, but much more needs to be done. I have tried to flag that up in my amendment. Christine Grahame talked about the need for change. We cannot say often enough that there will have been effective change only when conviction rates start to increase. I cannot claim to be able to be more specific about what is needed, but changes need to be made, so that we can bring to justice the men who perpetrate violence against women.
It is bad enough that women are made to relive their ordeal when they come forward and that their chances of succeeding are around one in 25; what is worse is that the courts are still failing to protect innocent victims of male sexual violence from humiliation and degradation in the witness box. The Executive's own research shows that defence lawyers made verbal applications to introduce evidence of the complainer's sexual history in 23 per cent of rape cases and that 95 per cent of those applications were made spontaneously, which means that they were sprung on the complainer while she was giving evidence.
What is worse is that researchers found that sexual history evidence of the type prohibited by the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995 was introduced without application in half the rape cases heard in the High Court that the research investigated. The researchers said that the nature of the questioning and the inspection of the complainer's private life, including their medical and gynaecological histories, can be potentially humiliating and intimidating. Small wonder that the researchers also found that 62 per cent of complainers in the High Court were audibly distressed and were crying or sobbing while giving evidence. That is torture; it is cruel and inhumane treatment of women that would not be tolerated if the victims were men.
Where are the other crimes the victims of which are treated as criminals? Where are the muggers' victims who are treated as liars? Are they subjected to questioning by defence lawyers about whether they were asking for it by wearing expensive designer clothing?
On the basis of the Executive's research it is fair to conclude that about three out of four women who are brave enough to give evidence against rapists are being subjected to humiliating questions about their sex life with no protection from the courts.
Research from the United States suggests that introducing sexual history evidence lowers the chance of securing a conviction. That means that an awful lot of women's chances of securing a conviction have been compromised by the introduction of such evidence. As a result, thousands of rapists are wandering about free. As well as there being hundreds of rapists who escape justice because no prosecution is ever brought, despite a complaint being made, thousands of women never make a complaint because they know that, at best, all they face is humiliation in court with a tiny chance of conviction. Men know that they can do the crime and need never worry about doing the time.
We need to consider setting up specialist sexual violence courts of a type similar to Glasgow's domestic violence court, which I think has been effective—the signs are that it is certainly helping to address male violence. We need courts that are presided over by judges who will provide protection to women complainers; where prosecutors are determined to secure justice for rape victims; and where defence lawyers are prevented from humiliating victims. Until we have such courts, we will continue to let down women who are subjected to vile crimes against their person while letting rapists continue to believe that they can get off.
I ask members to support my amendment, which recognises that we still need effective change. I hope that there is consensus on that throughout the chamber.
I move amendment S2M-5109.1, to insert at end:
"and, in so doing, expresses continuing concern at the despairingly low conviction rates for rape and sexual offences and the continuing humiliation that the majority of women complainants face through the courts allowing examination of victims' sexual history and character, and believes that the efforts of the Executive to address male violence against women must be supported by effective change in the criminal justice system."
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid):
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S2M-5109, in the name of Malcolm Chisholm, on violence against women.
The Minister for Communities (Malcolm Chisholm):
Lab
This is the 16th year of the United Nations campaign of activism to end violence against women, and I am proud that the Parliament is again discussing male v...
Christine Grahame (South of Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
The minister mentions 600 updated spaces since 2000. I want to get my figures right. From the website of Scottish Women's Aid, I have a figure of 234 refuge ...
Malcolm Chisholm:
Lab
I am giving the figure of 600 for new, adapted, refurbished or upgraded spaces since 2000. I do not know what the figure of 234 refers to.We are pleased to c...
Christine Grahame (South of Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
I note the terms of the Government's motion and I note the minister's words. We on this side of the chamber will be supporting the motion. The minister did n...
Carolyn Leckie (Central Scotland) (SSP):
SSP
I welcome the debate and I will support the Executive motion—that is a rare occurrence. I congratulate the Minister for Communities and the Deputy Minister f...
Dave Petrie (Highlands and Islands) (Con):
Con
We will be supporting the motion. The fact that many women in Scotland are still facing the horror of domestic abuse is an incredible statistic with Dickensi...
Nora Radcliffe (Gordon) (LD):
LD
In 1999, the United Nations adopted November 25 as the international day for the elimination of violence against women. That violence includes domestic viole...
Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab):
Lab
I welcome the motion, which comes in the run-up to the 16 days of activism against gender violence. The 16 days run from 25 November, which is the internatio...
John Swinburne (Central Scotland) (SSCUP):
SSCUP
Does the member agree that we insult men by accusing them of such abuse? The people who commit such crimes—they are crimes—against women are less than men an...
Cathy Peattie:
Lab
I want John Swinburne and other men in the Parliament to say that to the men concerned. The perpetrators are men—in general, it is men who commit such violen...
Shiona Baird (North East Scotland) (Green):
Green
As the motion highlights, we have a great history of women's rights activism in Scotland. This week, I visited the Eighteen and Under centre in Dundee, which...
Maureen Macmillan (Highlands and Islands) (Lab):
Lab
I refer members to my entry in the register of members' interests. The motion is partly a tribute to the work done by local women's groups over the years to ...
Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP):
SNP
The experience of this man—I am grateful for the opportunity to participate in the debate—as an MSP is probably, alas, not dissimilar to that of others. I th...
Ms Rosemary Byrne (South of Scotland) (Sol):
Sol
I, too, welcome the debate, and congratulate Scottish Women's Aid, and rape crisis centres and other voluntary sector projects on the excellent work that the...
Cathie Craigie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (Lab):
Lab
"She dressed the wrong way." "She walked in the wrong place." "She said the wrong thing." "She was asking for it." Sadly, in certain sections of Scottish soc...
Carolyn Leckie:
SSP
We have had a good discussion this afternoon rather than a debate. One of the best things about it has been that we have not had the ritual of Mike Rumbles t...
Nora Radcliffe:
LD
This has been a passionate, articulate and well-informed debate. I want to continue by quoting from the inaugural professorial lecture that was given in 2001...
Cathy Peattie:
Lab
Does the member think that it is more appropriate to use the phrase "domestic violence" than it is to use the word "abuse"? Although it is abuse, we must rec...
Nora Radcliffe:
LD
I take Cathy Peattie's point, but I refer her to what other members have said about the mental undermining of people. Cathy Peattie's point is well made but ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con):
Con
As Carolyn Leckie said, this has been a good debate and it has been largely consensual. Perhaps uncharacteristically, I will not seek to break that consensus...
Christine Grahame:
SNP
I am hoping that Mr Aitken will get to the point of addressing our amendment, which I surmise from his comments the Conservatives will not support. I ask him...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Trish Godman):
Lab
You should be finishing, Mr Aitken.
Christine Grahame:
SNP
I intervened as he looked as if he was running out of steam.
Bill Aitken:
Con
Clearly, Glasgow has more than its fair share of this type of problem. I fully concede the point. However, from reports that I have received, I understand th...
Ms Sandra White (Glasgow) (SNP):
SNP
I concur with everything the Executive has set out in its motion. I am pleased that the debate is being conducted under the heading "Violence Against Women" ...
The Deputy Minister for Communities (Johann Lamont):
Lab
I welcome the opportunity to sum up this very important debate, which reminds us of one of the critical issues that we discuss and have to address.I will rep...
Christine Grahame:
SNP
I thank the minister for that clarification. I was not sure how secure the figures were; they were the best that I could obtain. I am obliged to her for the ...
Johann Lamont:
Lab
I can get back to Christine Grahame on the detail of how the statistics are managed. I agree that there is a challenge for all those who are working to suppo...
John Swinburne:
SSCUP
Does the minister agree that it is surprising that the issue of alcohol has not been raised during today's debate as, often, the pathetic excuses for men who...