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Chamber

Plenary, 12 Feb 2003

12 Feb 2003 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill
Monteith, Mr Brian Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV
I, too, am pleased to lend my support to the bill. I congratulate the minister and her team on their success in taking the bill through Parliament; I also congratulate the minister on the speed with which she has done that. I am aware that her interest stems from her professional background and I am sure that she is pleased that the bill gathered cross-party support as it underwent the various stages of legislative scrutiny.

The bill had to deal with particular problems and it was important that we were concerned about the movement of employees who work with children, whether between employers or across jurisdictions. The bill goes a long way towards allaying concerns about those matters.

At stage 2, many concerns were tackled about the balance between the rights of children and the rights of the employees who work with them. Thanks to many amendments that Michael Russell lodged, questions about tribunals, provisional listing and hearings were aired. With the support of Ian Jenkins—a Liberal—we changed the bill, which allowed the Executive to think again. That represents a message to the Parliament. Voting need not be whipped on non-partisan bills on which agreement exists, because if a committee agrees to some amendments to a bill, the Executive thinks again and proposes an improved bill. That happened with the Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill.

Many of us are familiar with the costs to voluntary organisations, particularly those in the youth sector, of Scottish Criminal Record Office checks. Voluntary organisations will incur some costs that are not yet apparent, in particular from the administrative work load that some might face. I appeal to the minister to have an open mind—once the bill has bedded down and practices begin to be understood—about whether support for voluntary organisations will be required, if some organisations find that the administrative demands are onerous and make a call on their finances. It would be regrettable if any organisation tried to cut corners because it had to make savings.

I congratulate the minister on succeeding with the bill and I thank her team and the clerks to the Education, Culture and Sport Committee, who helped us to amend the bill.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Mr Murray Tosh): Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S1M-3705, in the name of Cathy Jamieson, that the Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill be passed.I call on ...
The Minister for Education and Young People (Cathy Jamieson): Lab
I am sure that the Presiding Officer does not want me to be so flexible that I take up the next two hours.I begin by thanking everyone who was involved in th...
Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab): Lab
The minister is talking about striking a balance between children's rights and employment rights, but is she aware of the Scottish Trades Union Congress's co...
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
I am happy to give Cathy Peattie that assurance and I will come on to that issue in a moment or two.We have been careful to ensure that there is no scope for...
Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP
No one is in any doubt that we in Parliament need to do all that we can to increase the protection that we afford our children. The bill, as the minister sai...
Mr Brian Monteith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
I, too, am pleased to lend my support to the bill. I congratulate the minister and her team on their success in taking the bill through Parliament; I also co...
Ian Jenkins (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD): LD
I, too, thank everyone who was involved in the bill's production, including the witnesses who spoke to the Education, Culture and Sport Committee, our clerks...
Karen Gillon (Clydesdale) (Lab): Lab
I welcome the bill and look forward to its becoming an act. For many of us, it has been difficult to come to terms with some of the detail of the bill, but t...
Michael Russell (South of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
It shows what a varied life the members of the Education, Culture and Sport Committee have that this morning we were all engaged in a battle of ideas and wil...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab): Lab
The bill is very much about recognising children's vulnerability and the importance of choosing the right people to work with them. We must remember that the...
Donald Gorrie (Central Scotland) (LD): LD
I welcome the minister's assurance about giving support, guidance and training—or words to that effect—to the voluntary sector, which has to deal with its si...
Cathy Jamieson: Lab
I will deal with the points that Donald Gorrie has just raised before commenting on the rest of the debate. I am aware that YouthLink Scotland has circulated...