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Plenary, 27 Sep 2001

27 Sep 2001 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
“Value Nurses” Campaign
I congratulate Margaret Smith on securing today's welcome debate. I also add my support to the RCN's value nurses campaign. The minister and I are joining the RCN for dinner later this evening, so if the minister wants hot soup, he should reflect carefully on his comments.

The motion raises some hard issues that we must address. To put it simply, we are facing a crisis of morale and recruitment in the nursing profession. We have heard many of the statistics already this afternoon: there are 1,000 fewer nurses in our hospitals today than there were four years ago; vacancies are up by 50 per cent in the last year alone; a quarter of our nurses are set to retire in the next 10 years; the same proportion of student nurses drop out before the completion of their courses. Many more students who complete their courses will go abroad or south of the border where they think, quite rightly, that nurses' conditions are better.

To avert the impending crisis, we need action now. I welcome the fact that the date for the nursing summit has at last been set, but at this stage we need not more words but practical policies. We need to bring more young people into the profession. We need more flexible nurse training opportunities and measures to tackle student poverty. The increase in bursaries that the Deputy Minister for Health and Community Care announced earlier this year was welcome but did not go far enough. The average debt of student nurses is nearly £4,000. We also need policies to bring back into the health service some of the 10,000 qualified nurses who are not currently working. We have heard a lot tonight about return-to-practice courses, which are a simple but important measure that the Government could commit itself to.

We need policies to retain nurses within the profession and give them more career development opportunities. There are thousands of nurse consultant posts south of the border, but only 12 in Scotland. We need more opportunities for nurses to progress in their careers while staying within clinical practice. Tommy Sheridan is right that we need action to tackle low pay within the nursing profession. The Government could and should adopt such practical policies to solve the problem before it gets out of hand.

However, politicians can do something more. They can do something that is perhaps less tangible than the practical measures that I have mentioned. Quite simply—if I may use the title of the RCN campaign—we can value nurses. We can make it clear that we value nurses. That would mean valuing in its entirety the contribution that nurses make. As Alex Neil said, the contribution that nurses make goes way beyond clinical practice. It also means never falling into the trap, or rising to the temptation, of berating nurses or other health professionals simply because they point out the problems that they face day in, day out. Politicians can contribute. This is not rocket science; it is just common sense. A crisis faces us; but if we take action now we can avert that crisis and send a loud and clear message to our nurses that we value them.

Without wanting to break the spirit of consensus, I have to say that it would have been the most positive of gestures to our nursing profession had Susan Deacon been present in this debate this evening. However, let us stop talking. Let us take the things that we have talked about tonight and let us put them into practice. The time for talking is over; the time for action is now.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Sir David Steel): NPA
The final item of business is a members' business debate on motion S1M-2054, in the name of Margaret Smith, on the Royal College of Nursing Scotland's value ...
Motion debated,
That the Parliament supports the Royal College of Nursing Scotland's "Value Nurses" campaign, which highlights the crucial role that nurses play in deliverin...
Mrs Margaret Smith (Edinburgh West) (LD): LD
I am delighted and honoured to sponsor a motion to value and recognise the wide range of work done by Scotland's nurses and to support the RCN's value nurses...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid): SNP
I will not be able to call everyone, even with speeches of three minutes, so I am prepared to entertain a motion without notice to extend the debate by 10 mi...
Mrs Margaret Ewing (Moray) (SNP): SNP
May I move a motion to extend the business?
The Deputy Presiding Officer: SNP
Yes.
Motion moved,
That the meeting be extended by 10 minutes.—Mrs Margaret Ewing.
The Deputy Presiding Officer: SNP
The question is, that the motion be agreed to.
Motion agreed to.
Janis Hughes (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab): Lab
I must declare an interest—I am a member of Unison. As the only nurse in the Scottish Parliament, I feel qualified to contribute to the debate. Margaret Smit...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness East, Nairn and Lochaber) (SNP): SNP
I congratulate Margaret Smith on securing the debate and Janis Hughes on her contribution to it. I am sure that there will not be a great deal of controversy...
Mr Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con): Con
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Brian Fitzpatrick (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (Lab): Lab
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Mr McGrigor: Con
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Nora Radcliffe (Gordon) (LD): LD
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Alex Neil (Central Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I too congratulate Margaret Smith on securing this debate, and on making an excellent opening speech. In no way do I want to be partisan, but I think that th...
Tommy Sheridan (Glasgow) (SSP): SSP
I endorse what Alex Neil said and I thank Margaret Smith for securing the debate and for the quality of her speech. Nurses are undoubtedly the Henrik Larsson...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab
I welcome the nurses, who come from a virtually all-female profession, to the Scottish Parliament. It is worth noting that the vast majority of nurses, midwi...
Shona Robison (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I will be brief, to allow other members an opportunity to speak. I thank Margaret Smith for securing this important debate.As part of the RCN's value nurses ...
Lord James Douglas-Hamilton (Lothians) (Con): Con
I congratulate Margaret Smith on raising this extremely important debate. We should all be grateful to Scotland's nurses for what they have done over countle...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: SNP
I call Jamie Stone, to be followed by a 60-second speech from Kenny Gibson.
Mr Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD): LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer: SNP
We only have time for the briefest of contributions from Kenny Gibson.
Mr Kenneth Gibson (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
I thank the Presiding Officer for accepting my plea. I do not consider nursing to be a female profession but a caring profession. Although there are many thi...
Nicola Sturgeon (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
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The Deputy Minister for Health and Community Care (Malcolm Chisholm): Lab
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Mrs Ewing: SNP
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Malcolm Chisholm: Lab
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