Chamber
Plenary, 14 Sep 2000
14 Sep 2000 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Family Law
I thank Roseanna Cunningham for her general welcome for the proposals and I look forward to working with her and the Justice and Home Affairs Committee in the process of further consultation on the draft bill and the legislation.
I am not persuaded of the case for compulsory mediation. I think that making mediation compulsory might undo some of the good that might come from it. However, I endorse strongly what Roseanna Cunningham said about the importance of mediation, particularly when divorce is inevitable. Many of the issues, at least those concerning the children, can be discussed in a more civilised and constructive way with the help of mediators. I share Roseanna Cunningham's view that mediation should be given a higher profile and think that we should all try to raise its profile. As I said in my statement, we have made more financial resources available.
Roseanna Cunningham is correct to say that my statement contained no specific proposals relating to grandparents. My recollection—I will correct this later if I am wrong—is that, under the Children (Scotland) Act 1995, grandparents can go to court to seek parental rights and responsibilities. I have received the correspondence to which Roseanna Cunningham referred, and I accept fully the important role that grandparents can play. Often, however, that can depend on the relationship between the parents of the child and their parents. The matter is not straightforward, but legal provision to deal with it already exists.
Although the Justice and Home Affairs Committee had proposed to go slightly further on domestic violence than the proposals in the white paper, having met the committee and Maureen Macmillan this week, I do not think that there is too much between our objectives. I told Maureen Macmillan and the Justice and Home Affairs Committee officials that my officials in the justice department would be willing to discuss how some of the proposals can be worked up further.
As far as timing is concerned, Roseanna Cunningham knows as well as I do that there are drafting difficulties and a burden on her committee. Domestic violence is an important issue; we do not want to drag our feet on it, and I have certainly not closed the door. I have an open mind as to whether such measures should be included in our family law legislation, or in a bill that may emerge from Ms Cunningham's committee.
I am not persuaded of the case for compulsory mediation. I think that making mediation compulsory might undo some of the good that might come from it. However, I endorse strongly what Roseanna Cunningham said about the importance of mediation, particularly when divorce is inevitable. Many of the issues, at least those concerning the children, can be discussed in a more civilised and constructive way with the help of mediators. I share Roseanna Cunningham's view that mediation should be given a higher profile and think that we should all try to raise its profile. As I said in my statement, we have made more financial resources available.
Roseanna Cunningham is correct to say that my statement contained no specific proposals relating to grandparents. My recollection—I will correct this later if I am wrong—is that, under the Children (Scotland) Act 1995, grandparents can go to court to seek parental rights and responsibilities. I have received the correspondence to which Roseanna Cunningham referred, and I accept fully the important role that grandparents can play. Often, however, that can depend on the relationship between the parents of the child and their parents. The matter is not straightforward, but legal provision to deal with it already exists.
Although the Justice and Home Affairs Committee had proposed to go slightly further on domestic violence than the proposals in the white paper, having met the committee and Maureen Macmillan this week, I do not think that there is too much between our objectives. I told Maureen Macmillan and the Justice and Home Affairs Committee officials that my officials in the justice department would be willing to discuss how some of the proposals can be worked up further.
As far as timing is concerned, Roseanna Cunningham knows as well as I do that there are drafting difficulties and a burden on her committee. Domestic violence is an important issue; we do not want to drag our feet on it, and I have certainly not closed the door. I have an open mind as to whether such measures should be included in our family law legislation, or in a bill that may emerge from Ms Cunningham's committee.
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The Presiding Officer (Sir David Steel):
NPA
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The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice (Mr Jim Wallace):
LD
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NPA
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SNP
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LD
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Con
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LD
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The Presiding Officer:
NPA
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Lab
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LD
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LD
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LD
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SNP
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The Presiding Officer:
NPA
Short questions.
Christine Grahame:
SNP
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LD
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Lab
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LD
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LD
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LD
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Lab
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LD
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SNP
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LD
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Lab
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LD
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Con
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