Committee
Transport and the Environment Committee, 18 Mar 2003
18 Mar 2003 · S1 · Transport and the Environment Committee
Item of business
Railways and Transport Safety Bill
The bill reminds me of an incident from my past involving the Ballachulish ferry on new year's day, a bottle of Chivas Regal drunk on the north side and a ferry that could not dock on the south side. The ferry went up Loch Leven and anchored and there was a stand-off with the police. Later, the Oban Times reported that someone had been charged with being drunk in charge of a ferry. The experience was frightening for everyone on board. I had assumed that such legislation was in place and I am rather concerned that we now have to amend the law. My question is about pleasure craft. At an event such as the west Highland regatta, a fair bit of alcohol is probably consumed as part of the whole experience of racing from, say, Oban to Tobermory. I am aware the legislation could stop people drinking while they are sailing, but what about when they are aboard their boats in the evening? Under the legislation on road traffic, a person is considered drunk in charge of a motor vehicle even if they are not driving it—if someone is simply sitting in their car drunk they can be charged. I would like to think that people could have parties in Tobermory bay on the evening of the regatta without the police coming along and saying, "Sorry, you're drunk in charge of your yacht," and taking them off to the cells. I wonder what you will do in such cases, where the law obviously cannot be applied in the same way. How will you police the situation? Who will patrol the seas, looking out for drunken yachtsmen?
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Lab
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Lab
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Lewis Macdonald:
Lab
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Maureen Macmillan:
Lab
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Lewis Macdonald:
Lab
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Bruce Crawford:
SNP
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The Convener:
Lab
The Sewel motion will be considered by the full Parliament; our discussion of the motion is merely in order to aid that consideration. The motion has come to...
Bruce Crawford:
SNP
I understand that. However, the issue consists of huge chunks of criminal law. I would have thought it appropriate to give one of the justice committees the ...
Lewis Macdonald:
Lab
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Bruce Crawford:
SNP
Did those who were consulted in Scotland include the organisations that are involved in recreational activities on our inland waterways, such as those who us...
Andrew Maclaren (Scottish Executive Development Department):
My understanding is that the UK consultation encompassed Scottish organisations. For example, the Royal Yachting Association Scotland is an off-shoot of the ...
Lewis Macdonald:
Lab
The Royal Yachting Association is one of our standard consultees. I am sure that the Scottish Fishermen's Federation is another.
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SNP
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Lab
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