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Justice 1 Committee, 22 Nov 2006

22 Nov 2006 · S2 · Justice 1 Committee
Item of business
Criminal Proceedings etc (Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 141 is a minor technical amendment and does not alter the effect of section 42. It makes it clear that the suspension of the time bar for statutory offences while the offer of an alternative to prosecution is pending will apply to all statutory offences, whether the time limit is found in the statute giving rise to the offence or in section 136 of the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995.Amendment 141 adds specific mention of section 136 of the 1995 act, whereas the original form of words referred simply to "any provision in an enactment".As section 136 of the 1995 act provides for the time limit for the prosecution of all statutory offences when the offence does not include a time limit, a specific reference to it in new section 136B of the 1995 act as introduced by section 42 will improve clarity.Amendments 142 and 144 are minor grammatical amendments, although they are nonetheless important. For the sake of clarity, the word "where" is substituted by the word "if" at the beginning of new sections 136B(c)(i) and 136B(c) (ii) of the 1995 act as inserted by section 42. The effect of the provisions is unchanged.Amendment 187, lodged by Pauline McNeill, would remove section 42. Section 42 allows the time taken between the offer of an alternative to prosecution being made by a prosecutor and the offer being rejected by the accused or recalled to be excluded from any time bar attached to the offence by statute. The existence of a statutory time bar will often be a consideration for prosecutors when they issue offers of alternatives to prosecution. In some cases, there may not be time to make an offer and subsequently initiate court proceedings if the offer is rejected.Members will know that the committee considered amendments to the system for recalling fiscal fines last week to make the recall system less restrictive. However, in some cases, the recall system could mean that there is a lengthy time between the date of the alleged offence and the date on which a fine is recalled. Rejection of the offer or a successful application for recall is in effect a request to be tried for the alleged offence, as it leads to the procurator fiscal taking court action against the accused in respect of the alleged offence. It would be unfortunate if the effect of a late but well-founded application for recall was that the prosecutor was unable to prosecute the original offence because the case was then time barred. Amendment 187 could have that effect.As the aim of part 3 of the bill is to encourage the appropriate use of alternatives to prosecution, it seems counterproductive to remove section 42. Doing so might lead to prosecutors choosing not to issue offers of alternatives in otherwise appropriate cases because of the risk that any delay before refusal or recall might leave insufficient time for the prosecutor to take proceedings. In the case of a work order for example, it might take some time for the necessary arrangements to be made. The offender might then decline to co-operate with the order, resulting in the case coming back to the prosecutor after the statutory time bar has passed. As a result, the prosecutor might be forced to prosecute in the first instance as that would be the only certain way of dealing with the offence. That change would deny the prosecutor the flexibility to take the best approach to the case, having regard to all the circumstances. It might also be detrimental to the accused and the system if it leads to court cases that could have been avoided.Therefore, I ask Pauline McNeill to consider not moving amendment 187.I move amendment 141.

In the same item of business

The Convener (Pauline McNeill): Lab
Good morning and welcome to the 44th meeting in 2006 of the Justice 1 Committee. I ask members to do the usual and switch off pagers, mobile phones and anyth...
Brian Adam (Aberdeen North) (SNP): SNP
I am.
Section 40—Work orders
The Convener: Lab
Amendment 134, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 135 to 137 and 143.
The Deputy Minister for Justice (Johann Lamont): Lab
I assure you that it is a joy to be here at this late stage in the committee's consideration of this important bill.Amendments 134 to 137 and 143 make minor ...
Mrs Mary Mulligan (Linlithgow) (Lab): Lab
Amendment 134 is sensible. Have procurators fiscal expressed any concern about the administration that they will take on?
Johann Lamont: Lab
Procurators fiscal will end up with the information anyway. We are just cutting out the bit in the middle that makes the process longer.
Mike Pringle (Edinburgh South) (LD): LD
I entirely agree with Mary Mulligan. Amendment 134 is sensible, and the bill is all about speeding up the processes and getting people into court more quickl...
Amendment 134 agreed to.
Amendments 135 to 137 moved—Johann Lamont—and agreed to.
Section 40, as amended, agreed to.
Section 41—Disclosure of previous offers
Amendments 138 and 139 moved—Johann Lamont—and agreed to.
Amendment 184 not moved.
Amendment 140 moved—Johann Lamont—and agreed to.
Amendments 185 and 186 not moved.
Section 41, as amended, agreed to.
Section 42—Time bar where offer made
The Convener: Lab
Amendment 141, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 142, 144 and 187.
Johann Lamont: Lab
Amendment 141 is a minor technical amendment and does not alter the effect of section 42. It makes it clear that the suspension of the time bar for statutory...
The Convener: Lab
Amendment 187 is in my name. I do not intend to say too much about it because it is consequential to the debate on deemed acceptance. I do not plan to move t...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con): Con
I would be grateful if the minister would clarify the position on recall. As a consequence of last week's amendments, I understood that there would be no tim...
Johann Lamont: Lab
There is no limit of time for recall and it can be applied for in exceptional circumstances.
Amendment 141 agreed to.
Amendments 142 to 144 moved—Johann Lamont—and agreed to.
Amendment 187 not moved.
Section 42, as amended, agreed to.
Section 43—Fines enforcement officers and their functions
The Convener: Lab
Amendment 188, in the name of Kenny MacAskill, is grouped with amendments 189 to 192. I welcome Kenny MacAskill to the Justice 1 Committee. You have arrived ...
Mr Kenny MacAskill (Lothians) (SNP): SNP
Thank you, convener. I apologise for coming to the committee late.We seek to maintain faith in sheriff officers, a profession that has served Scotland well a...