Committee
Education and Gaelic Committee 23 June 2026 [Draft]
23 Jun 2026 · S7 · Education and Gaelic Committee
Item of business
Priorities
It has been helpful to hear members set out a few of their priorities. I can see that there is an overarching desire to look for the best outcomes that we can achieve for the young people in our education system, and I think that we can start from that point and work from there.I should declare that I have children with additional support needs, and that is one of my areas of interest. That issue is absolutely linked into the issue of behaviour in schools. When you talk to teachers and other people in public service, you can see that something has changed in relation to that issue in the post-Covid period. It would be good to look at behaviour in schools and to have streams within that to focus on the poverty-related attainment gap and additional support for learning.A few members touched on how the curriculum for excellence is working and the positive destinations that we want our children to achieve. On the issues of behaviour in schools and ASN, if we looked at establishing clearer pathways for our children and young people into positive destinations, that could help to loosen up the bottleneck that leads to children being frustrated because they are not able to move on. Getting into the bones of those issues would help us to unpick the reasons for what is happening and allow us to think about what we can do to support our young people and teachers. Foundation apprenticeships are fantastic, but we need to consider widening them and looking at how they are working and whether we need to do more of that sort of thing.I was particularly interested to hear what members said about youth work. Extracurricular activity is exceptionally important, and there is a lot of scope for work in that area that enables children to come together not only to socialise but to engage in subjects that interest them.10:30George Adam mentioned sport, including football. There is also music, art, drama and culture—all things that our young people have quite limited access to. I know what it is like when one of my children tells me that they have an interest in a new sport: I have to go out and buy all the gear that they need, and there will be a deposit and fees to pay. Before you know it, it has cost a couple of hundred pounds, and then they get fed up of it after six weeks. I am in a privileged position because I can help my children to do that but, a good few years ago, I was not in that position. There must be so many families and young people who are unable to access extracurricular activities that they have an interest in.It is all interconnected, and it is quite a wide ecosystem, as we know. The committee is able to look at an overarching theme, which might be behaviour in schools or attainment. We have some incredible schools that are doing fantastic work with project-based learning. The issue is that the rankings under the programme for international student assessment—the PISA rankings—do not necessarily show that good work and the positive destinations that those young people go on to, so it would be helpful to look at that.We spoke about the attainment of our young people, but we need to consider how that is ranked. Mention was made of Scotland’s attainment not being what it used to be, but I would like to understand more about how the ranking is implemented and what it is based on. Perhaps the processes for measuring attainment and how our young people are learning have been a bit disjointed, so I would really like to get into that aspect.Support for teachers is a massive issue. Our teachers need more support in schools to help children with behaviour issues and additional support for learning needs. On flexible childcare, I come from a rural area, and I completely understand what was said about that. In looking at the national picture of childcare and the roll-out of childcare provision, we need to consider what that will look like for us and what part the committee can play to ensure that the provision is rolled out in the best possible way, so that people who are accessing it are happy with what it looks like but also so that the people who will deliver the service are fully equipped to do that. That will be a massive task, as Patricia Gibson said.Those are just a few of my thoughts on the things that I would like the committee to look into. Cross-committee working will be really important in this parliamentary session, and I would like to do more of that. I have an interest in the proposed learning disability, autism and neurodivergence bill, which would absolutely impact on our education system. That relates to how our young people are supported through health challenges, and there will definitely be crossover with the work of other committees, so I would like our committee to work with others on that.Would anyone like to add anything?
In the same item of business
10:03
The Convener
SNP
Our final item is to discuss our priorities for the parliamentary session. I will go around the room and ask everybody to discuss what they would like to be ...
Katherine Sangster
Lab
One of my main priorities is the delivery of the 1,140 hours of early learning and childcare, which leads on from the previous committee’s legacy report and ...
George Adam
SNP
For me, a priority is to look at child poverty and the attainment gap and to take that a step further into further and higher education. Where are we with pl...
Duncan Dunlop
LD
I will raise similar issues to those that have been covered. On additional support needs, why has there been such a big increase and what can we do about tha...
Angela Ross
Reform
We want to focus on the curriculum for excellence, how it is being delivered and where some of the shortfalls are, particularly around the structure of the c...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you—that is helpful.
Patricia Gibson
SNP
I have jotted down a few ideas.I agree that we need to be looking at the childcare offer. The commitment to deliver childcare for children from nine months u...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you for that, Patricia.I welcome Laura Moodie to the committee. Do you have any interests to declare?
Laura Moodie (South Scotland) (Green)
Green
I have no registered interests to declare.
The Convener
SNP
Will you set out what you would like the committee to focus on?
Laura Moodie
Green
Thank you, convener, and apologies to everybody for my tardiness. I was struggling somewhat with the train system in the south of Scotland.I was interested t...
Duncan Dunlop
LD
There is one issue that has not come up. I should have declared that I have a masters in community, youth work and non-formal education.There has been quite ...
George Adam
SNP
Duncan Dunlop brings up a valid point, and our predecessor committee did some work on the issue a few times. We often talk about hard-to-reach children and f...
Laura Moodie
Green
On that point about youth work, a lot of seasonal childcare in rural areas is provided by the youth work sector. Most of the parents I know are currently cob...
Patricia Gibson
SNP
On what George Adam was saying about hard-to-reach children, I should say that schools are getting good at identifying children who do not go to school but w...
The Convener
SNP
It has been helpful to hear members set out a few of their priorities. I can see that there is an overarching desire to look for the best outcomes that we ca...
Angela Ross
Reform
On positive destinations, it is excellent that we have raised a few issues around youth education outside of schools and how we support our youth. I had an e...
Katherine Sangster
Lab
To build on Patricia Gibson’s point about teaching Scottish history in schools and children being able to learn Gaelic, it is also important to embed in the ...
Patricia Gibson
SNP
Absolutely.
Duncan Dunlop
LD
This links to what Angela Ross said, and it might fall under other committees’ mandates. I worked a lot with young people who were considered to be in positi...
Patricia Gibson
SNP
That is sort of the point that I made, but I was not as specific as you, Duncan. I spoke about university, college and apprenticeship funding and ensuring th...
The Convener
SNP
On the point about languages, this is the Education and Gaelic Committee, obviously. Also, on the point about Scottish history and culture, we should definit...
Patricia Gibson
SNP
I talked about life skills, and BSL is very much part of that. In case there is any misunderstanding externally, I should make the point that when we talk ab...
Laura Moodie
Green
It might also be worth looking again at our approach to English as a second language and thinking of that more holistically. Quite often, that is approached ...
The Convener
SNP
Do members have any further points? No.That was a lot—we heard some fantastic ideas. As I said, I can see ways in which we can join up many of these thoughts...
The Convener
SNP
Do we agree to invite the Cabinet Secretary for Education, Culture and Gaelic to give evidence, once the programme for government has been announced?Members ...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you very much for attending your first committee meeting. I hope that you all manage to have a fantastic break over recess and come back fully refreshe...