Committee
Education and Gaelic Committee 23 June 2026 [Draft]
23 Jun 2026 · S7 · Education and Gaelic Committee
Item of business
Priorities
I have jotted down a few ideas.I agree that we need to be looking at the childcare offer. The commitment to deliver childcare for children from nine months until they reach the end of primary seven by the end of this Parliament is hugely ambitious, and the committee should periodically take stock of progress towards that. The scale of the commitment is so huge that we need to keep an eye on it.We also need to look at college and university funding: what funding is being provided and how that money can be better spent in a time when resources are scarce. I am also thinking about apprenticeships. We need to remember that 98 per cent of our children in Scotland go on to positive destinations, so good work is already going on. However, we need to make sure that we get better value for money where possible.I would like us to look at the poverty-related attainment gap. We could perhaps carry out visits to look at best practice, because some schools are doing excellent work on the poverty-related attainment gap.10:15We need to consider pupil support assistants who help children with special educational needs. We need to professionalise that work, because recruitment and retention is a challenge, and that situation does not serve the children well. There is a bigger space for specialist centres for children with additional needs who cannot be accommodated in mainstream settings. I understand why there is an inclusion agenda: including children with special educational needs in mainstream schools is an admirable aim. Ultimately, however, it fails the children, and it frustrates teachers, because they cannot deliver the kind of support that they need to provide. We need to have a serious think about that. We also need to consider behaviour, and how we can better support looked-after children.I very much support the phone ban in schools, which I think is long overdue. As I said in the chamber, we need to consider how we support schools in enforcing the ban. As the Cabinet Secretary for Education, Culture and Gaelic told us, the ban will work seamlessly in some schools. However, in other schools it will be a real challenge—and some of that challenge will come from parents. Any system will have to have exclusions—and the cabinet secretary talked about that. However, we do not want there to be so many exclusions that it just becomes a tick-box exercise, and things are not getting done at all. That is a real danger. We will need to monitor that when the relevant bill is introduced.I would also like us to talk about the impact that the private finance initiative has been having in our schools every day. In my constituency, PFI is costing around £30 million a year. That is £30 million off the top of two local authorities’ education budgets, before they have bought a jotter or a pencil. That is bordering on the criminal. It has cost our schools £9 billion so far across Scotland, and there is still £6.7 billion left to pay. That is not justifiable in any world. We need to revisit that and see what can be done to free us from the chains of that appalling legacy.We also need to think about Gaelic education and about trying to make it more mainstream. Every child who wants to learn Gaelic should have the opportunity to do so, but that means training and delivering more Gaelic teachers in mainstream schools, which has resource implications.I will end with this: Scotland is the only country in the world, as far as I am aware—somebody from the Scottish Parliament information centre might contradict me—where children do not learn about the history of their nation as a matter of course. I cannot understand why that is. Scotland gave birth to the enlightenment, but nobody in any secondary school anywhere in Scotland will have ever heard of it. I am bewildered by that. Teaching Scots about their history should be a compulsory part of broad general education. No other nation in the world would understand why we do not do that.There has to be a greater emphasis on life skills and financial education. We also need to take a closer look at curriculum for excellence in the round and consider how it is delivering the life skills that our children need.In reference to what other members have said about evaluating what goes on in schools and how education is delivered, that is done as a matter of course in schools under “How good is our school?” which is the benchmark and the working document for every school.I promise that this really is the last thing that I will say. Part of school education is learning about culture and being taught literature. I know that there has been a greater emphasis on teaching Scottish literature in secondary education. However, I do not think that it has worked well. The literature that is taught shows the underbelly of Scottish society, if I can put it that way. This morning I jotted down the names of 12 Scottish writers whose works would enrich any child’s life. If we want to teach Scottish literature, we have to teach inspiring literature, rather than only talking about the underbelly of the nation. We are dealing with children, and we are trying to build positive outlooks.
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The Convener
SNP
Our final item is to discuss our priorities for the parliamentary session. I will go around the room and ask everybody to discuss what they would like to be ...
Katherine Sangster
Lab
One of my main priorities is the delivery of the 1,140 hours of early learning and childcare, which leads on from the previous committee’s legacy report and ...
George Adam
SNP
For me, a priority is to look at child poverty and the attainment gap and to take that a step further into further and higher education. Where are we with pl...
Duncan Dunlop
LD
I will raise similar issues to those that have been covered. On additional support needs, why has there been such a big increase and what can we do about tha...
Angela Ross
Reform
We want to focus on the curriculum for excellence, how it is being delivered and where some of the shortfalls are, particularly around the structure of the c...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you—that is helpful.
Patricia Gibson
SNP
I have jotted down a few ideas.I agree that we need to be looking at the childcare offer. The commitment to deliver childcare for children from nine months u...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you for that, Patricia.I welcome Laura Moodie to the committee. Do you have any interests to declare?
Laura Moodie (South Scotland) (Green)
Green
I have no registered interests to declare.
The Convener
SNP
Will you set out what you would like the committee to focus on?
Laura Moodie
Green
Thank you, convener, and apologies to everybody for my tardiness. I was struggling somewhat with the train system in the south of Scotland.I was interested t...
Duncan Dunlop
LD
There is one issue that has not come up. I should have declared that I have a masters in community, youth work and non-formal education.There has been quite ...
George Adam
SNP
Duncan Dunlop brings up a valid point, and our predecessor committee did some work on the issue a few times. We often talk about hard-to-reach children and f...
Laura Moodie
Green
On that point about youth work, a lot of seasonal childcare in rural areas is provided by the youth work sector. Most of the parents I know are currently cob...
Patricia Gibson
SNP
On what George Adam was saying about hard-to-reach children, I should say that schools are getting good at identifying children who do not go to school but w...
The Convener
SNP
It has been helpful to hear members set out a few of their priorities. I can see that there is an overarching desire to look for the best outcomes that we ca...
Angela Ross
Reform
On positive destinations, it is excellent that we have raised a few issues around youth education outside of schools and how we support our youth. I had an e...
Katherine Sangster
Lab
To build on Patricia Gibson’s point about teaching Scottish history in schools and children being able to learn Gaelic, it is also important to embed in the ...
Patricia Gibson
SNP
Absolutely.
Duncan Dunlop
LD
This links to what Angela Ross said, and it might fall under other committees’ mandates. I worked a lot with young people who were considered to be in positi...
Patricia Gibson
SNP
That is sort of the point that I made, but I was not as specific as you, Duncan. I spoke about university, college and apprenticeship funding and ensuring th...
The Convener
SNP
On the point about languages, this is the Education and Gaelic Committee, obviously. Also, on the point about Scottish history and culture, we should definit...
Patricia Gibson
SNP
I talked about life skills, and BSL is very much part of that. In case there is any misunderstanding externally, I should make the point that when we talk ab...
Laura Moodie
Green
It might also be worth looking again at our approach to English as a second language and thinking of that more holistically. Quite often, that is approached ...
The Convener
SNP
Do members have any further points? No.That was a lot—we heard some fantastic ideas. As I said, I can see ways in which we can join up many of these thoughts...
The Convener
SNP
Do we agree to invite the Cabinet Secretary for Education, Culture and Gaelic to give evidence, once the programme for government has been announced?Members ...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you very much for attending your first committee meeting. I hope that you all manage to have a fantastic break over recess and come back fully refreshe...