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Education and Gaelic Committee 23 June 2026 [Draft]

23 Jun 2026 · S7 · Education and Gaelic Committee
Item of business
Priorities
Ross, Angela Reform Edinburgh and Lothians East Watch on SPTV
We want to focus on the curriculum for excellence, how it is being delivered and where some of the shortfalls are, particularly around the structure of the curriculum itself. I have a particular interest in that, given some of the previous work that I have done.The national curriculum that is used in England is much more knowledge based, which is similar to the Scottish system that we used to use. We have gone to a more skills-based approach, which needs to be integrated as part of the curriculum. However, we need to assess what is working in schools such as Jordanhill school, which has done a good job of embedding knowledge back into the curriculum. It is about looking at where we can get merit from analysing that success.However, we can assess progress and performance in schools only if we have the appropriate surveys and assessment structure in place. It is about understanding how we measure where our children are and what level they are at. There is possibly a need to look at ages and stages, which, when I have investigated it, is an area that seems to be a little bit loose. It is sort of the case that a child gets to their level when they get to it, which is fair enough. However, we need to be able to assess that as well as our international performance—that goes to Duncan Dunlop’s point—so that we are able to critique where we are and how we are doing, because that will give us the feedback that we need to improve. How we can potentially improve on that is one area.Another area to look at is joining the dots up an awful lot more. Our education system tends to be quite siloed, and people who are going through it need to see clear pathways. Although there needs to be flexibility to switch pathways, I would ask whether we can look at horizon thinking. Can we look at joining up the structure, so that when people progress, there are no cliff edges and there is clear progress? That might be going into further education opportunities, apprenticeships or university, but there should be an end goal, a career and an experience outside in life that people can embrace because they have chosen the correct options as they have gone along. When I went through that experience, I thought, “I have finished school, now what? I have finished university, now what?” It did not seem very joined up, and we could do better in those areas.On apprenticeships, we need to look at how we ring fence the funding for that and ensure that it is spent in the correct way. That might mean looking more at enterprise and commercial opportunities and perhaps ensuring that there is the opportunity to look at professional development in universities. Perhaps there could be a year in a university or college course when people were out working—doing a practical, physical job or a job in a professional sphere—to get experience and explore future work options. It is about joining up those activities.STEM is important, but perhaps we should call it STEAM, because we want to include the arts and we want to encourage critical thinking. This is about how people think, rather than what they think, and how they can use that in life. It is about giving them the skills to be creative and explore innovation. Perhaps that means weaving innovation into our education system more, so that we are really thinking about the opportunities. As Scots, we are great at coming up with creative and innovative ideas; we just need the space to be able to do so.

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10:03
The Convener SNP
Our final item is to discuss our priorities for the parliamentary session. I will go around the room and ask everybody to discuss what they would like to be ...
Katherine Sangster Lab
One of my main priorities is the delivery of the 1,140 hours of early learning and childcare, which leads on from the previous committee’s legacy report and ...
George Adam SNP
For me, a priority is to look at child poverty and the attainment gap and to take that a step further into further and higher education. Where are we with pl...
Duncan Dunlop LD
I will raise similar issues to those that have been covered. On additional support needs, why has there been such a big increase and what can we do about tha...
Angela Ross Reform
We want to focus on the curriculum for excellence, how it is being delivered and where some of the shortfalls are, particularly around the structure of the c...
The Convener SNP
Thank you—that is helpful.
Patricia Gibson SNP
I have jotted down a few ideas.I agree that we need to be looking at the childcare offer. The commitment to deliver childcare for children from nine months u...
The Convener SNP
Thank you for that, Patricia.I welcome Laura Moodie to the committee. Do you have any interests to declare?
Laura Moodie (South Scotland) (Green) Green
I have no registered interests to declare.
The Convener SNP
Will you set out what you would like the committee to focus on?
Laura Moodie Green
Thank you, convener, and apologies to everybody for my tardiness. I was struggling somewhat with the train system in the south of Scotland.I was interested t...
Duncan Dunlop LD
There is one issue that has not come up. I should have declared that I have a masters in community, youth work and non-formal education.There has been quite ...
George Adam SNP
Duncan Dunlop brings up a valid point, and our predecessor committee did some work on the issue a few times. We often talk about hard-to-reach children and f...
Laura Moodie Green
On that point about youth work, a lot of seasonal childcare in rural areas is provided by the youth work sector. Most of the parents I know are currently cob...
Patricia Gibson SNP
On what George Adam was saying about hard-to-reach children, I should say that schools are getting good at identifying children who do not go to school but w...
The Convener SNP
It has been helpful to hear members set out a few of their priorities. I can see that there is an overarching desire to look for the best outcomes that we ca...
Angela Ross Reform
On positive destinations, it is excellent that we have raised a few issues around youth education outside of schools and how we support our youth. I had an e...
Katherine Sangster Lab
To build on Patricia Gibson’s point about teaching Scottish history in schools and children being able to learn Gaelic, it is also important to embed in the ...
Patricia Gibson SNP
Absolutely.
Duncan Dunlop LD
This links to what Angela Ross said, and it might fall under other committees’ mandates. I worked a lot with young people who were considered to be in positi...
Patricia Gibson SNP
That is sort of the point that I made, but I was not as specific as you, Duncan. I spoke about university, college and apprenticeship funding and ensuring th...
The Convener SNP
On the point about languages, this is the Education and Gaelic Committee, obviously. Also, on the point about Scottish history and culture, we should definit...
Patricia Gibson SNP
I talked about life skills, and BSL is very much part of that. In case there is any misunderstanding externally, I should make the point that when we talk ab...
Laura Moodie Green
It might also be worth looking again at our approach to English as a second language and thinking of that more holistically. Quite often, that is approached ...
The Convener SNP
Do members have any further points? No.That was a lot—we heard some fantastic ideas. As I said, I can see ways in which we can join up many of these thoughts...
The Convener SNP
Do we agree to invite the Cabinet Secretary for Education, Culture and Gaelic to give evidence, once the programme for government has been announced?Members ...
The Convener SNP
Thank you very much for attending your first committee meeting. I hope that you all manage to have a fantastic break over recess and come back fully refreshe...